knife edge retention tips 4 the burr

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Joe Calton

Joe Calton

Ай бұрын

if you have a knife that you just sharpened, and it will shave hair and cut paper without a sound and you think you have finally reached the pinnacle of sharpness. then you go into your first real cut and the edge starts to cut and then just fails, you might have a problem with removing the burr. caltoncutlery.com

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@tayloralexander291
@tayloralexander291 Ай бұрын
Best explanation I've heard on burrs/sharpening. Thanks Joe ☮️✌️
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@muhammedk470
@muhammedk470 Ай бұрын
So much knowledge condensed into an 8 minute video
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
thank you for the kind words!
@atquevale6059
@atquevale6059 Ай бұрын
Your words come from first hand experience; you are very good at communicating; and it's transparent you love sharing your knowledge. It's a real pleasure listening to you talk about rubbing steel on a rock. Thank you, Joe
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
thank you for the kind words! yes, i do like helping folks get more out of their knives and sharpening :}
@thiago.assumpcao
@thiago.assumpcao Ай бұрын
Edge leading really helps. You can also do it on soft aluminum oxide stones but they need to be well flattened and clean of slurry. I cut paper towel out of them on most knives.
@radoslawjocz2976
@radoslawjocz2976 28 күн бұрын
For bread I use Victorinox serrated knife which is possible to sharpen on one side because serrations are cut on other side so entire edge can be sharpen relatively easily, it works very well. For everything else I use Japanese knives but all of this knives are stainless and full tang. For sharpening I use mainly King 800 and King 1200 and natural hard jade stone from China. For jade stone I use fine nagura as additional abrasive, so jade stone works mainly as flat surface. King stones are used for general sharpening and jade stone is used for finishing or for micro bevel depending what is needed. I have got also Norton India Fine and Japanese 8000 stone and couple of rough silicon carbide stones which I use mainly for tools sharpening. I use one cheap silicon carbide stone only for Japanese stone flattening.
@mannynieves493
@mannynieves493 Ай бұрын
That happens to me to many times, good video and good info 👍 thanks.
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@vinceLi3096
@vinceLi3096 Ай бұрын
I find my palm is more sensitive to feel a burr than my fingertip. Not entirely sure why. Very informative video! Thank you for making that.
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
i have seen that also, not always, but often enough that it is worth mentioning.
@filipefaria898
@filipefaria898 Ай бұрын
Great content my friend! Greetings from Brazil!
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the visit!
@ericasedc
@ericasedc Ай бұрын
Great video Joe!!! Been loving this series. Very helpful and informative! 🎉❤😊
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
thank you for the kind words and i am glad to hear that you are enjoying them!
@DuxLindy
@DuxLindy Ай бұрын
this was my biggest problem when i started sharpening. I could get what I thought was an insanely sharp edge and felt no burr with my fingernail, but that initial sharpness would be gone very quickly and I could only shave hairs in one direction. my solution at the time was just a slightly higher angle and more time on the strop.
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
thats pretty common, yet great at the same time, because if you can get there, then you are only one step and one more small skill away from getting some great edges!
@JohnDoe-zb7dz
@JohnDoe-zb7dz Ай бұрын
Once light stop reflecting off the apex I quit. My edges are better and last longer than when I use to chase a burr. Your milage may vary. Thanks for sharing Joe.
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
that is a great way to sharpen if you have good eyes or are using optics and have good light!
@JohnDoe-zb7dz
@JohnDoe-zb7dz Ай бұрын
@@joecalton1449 Yes, very important. I always like to quote Todd from The Science of Sharp. "It's easier to prevent the burr than to remove it."
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-zb7dz it could be slightly easier. but its best to learn to control the burr and make it do what you want it to do and then remove it cleanly. once you have control of the burr then you can decide to make one or not, and make it do what you want.
@JohnDoe-zb7dz
@JohnDoe-zb7dz Ай бұрын
@@joecalton1449 that's a very good applicable explanation. 👍
@waynebean1521
@waynebean1521 Ай бұрын
Super series! Thank you!
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@saldomino1639
@saldomino1639 Ай бұрын
Great Video Joe thanks !
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@herbertgearing1702
@herbertgearing1702 Ай бұрын
I used to be really good at judging my burr situation by feel. Sadly after many years of having fun with sharp and dangerous things and learning the hard way to polish my axes before I put the final edge on I have lost a bit of sensitivity in my very scarred fingertips. I will occasionally miss a very small burr so I use a little jewelry loupe to visually inspect the apex if I am not sure.
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
those loupes are really handy, I have them in the shop, and a couple in the house for splinters and such :}
@S.Vallieres
@S.Vallieres Ай бұрын
Hi Joe, nice video again with your usual practical approach to sharpening. I like that a lot. I'm not sure however if I understood why removing the burr on the Atomas by grinding a micro-bevel doesn't work like with other diamond plates... Well I"m pretty sure I didn't understand actually... 😊 😂 I've never tried them (Atomas), maybe if I did I would figure it out.. Anyways, I'm looking fowards to watching the next video of the edge retention series.
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
the atomas that I have worked with and looked at under my scope show that the pattern of diamonds are much different than my favorite dmts and smiths. with the dmts and smiths, if you shrunk yourself down to the size of an ant, and looked across the surface of the stone, you would see a relatively flat plain with what looks like glass shards sticking out of the ground and mostly sticking up with the points exposed. the atomas look much different, in that they look more like rounded heaps of diamonds with flat ground around them. the diamonds are also much more rounded, looking more like rough boulders than glass shards. in my mind the dmts and smiths do a great job of shearing the burr off, whereas the atomas dont cut as cleanly or as agressively so dont work as well with that burr shearing tecnique.
@S.Vallieres
@S.Vallieres Ай бұрын
@@joecalton1449 Thank you very much for the precisions/added info. Thumbs up!
@twatmunro
@twatmunro Ай бұрын
I don't have a problem creating the burr when I'm using my Kuromaku 320 or my 400 grit diamond stone, but I really struggle if I start on a 1000 grit stone -- even though that'll get my knife sharp. I might be creating a burr, but I can't feel one or see one with the naked eye. And it's even harder if I go to finer grits, like a 3000 or a 6000. I suppose I should spring for one of those cheap microscopes but it seems like overkill?
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
i can reliably feel a burr up to about 6000 grit waterstones with just my fingertips. i have also tried stropping on the palm of my hand as well as my forearm and sometimes can feel the burr better with one or the other. the cheap usb microscopes that I have used dont help much as the pixelthingys are larger than what it is that we are trying to look at is what i have been told. but you can get a pretty good jewlers loupe for not much money that will show you a lot, and no pixels to worry about so you get all the detail that there is.
@danielbottner7700
@danielbottner7700 Ай бұрын
Question if you sharpen at a 15º angel then strop the Apex will be rounded to some extent. Has anyone actually measured the converging angles that make up the apex after stopping ?
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
i have not tried to measure them, and am not sure how you would go about that.
@danielbottner7700
@danielbottner7700 Ай бұрын
@@joecalton1449 If in fact we still have to distinct converging angles a laser light bounced off the surface would likely be one of the simpler ways to measure it. - More likely than not the edge will be rounded, then we would be measuring the width of the radius where it converges to the secondary bevel.
@rickwhitson2804
@rickwhitson2804 Ай бұрын
Good info Joe!!
@joecalton1449
@joecalton1449 Ай бұрын
Thanks! 👍
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