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Knowing this distinction will help protect you from lovebombing (being desired vs. being cherished)

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@tiptapkey
@tiptapkey 2 жыл бұрын
Love bombing is such a manipulative performance. It's like "Look how good I'm making you feel. There's no way you couldn't want this, and you'd be a fool to reject it, so now we MUST be together."
@carmnose
@carmnose 2 жыл бұрын
And “you’ll never find anyone else like me who loves you so much”
@msharic85
@msharic85 2 жыл бұрын
😷
@asociacionmexicanacontrade3209
@asociacionmexicanacontrade3209 2 жыл бұрын
Yup... Forceful, pathetic, inhuman
@sll110
@sll110 2 жыл бұрын
EXTREMELY true
@pannellclara
@pannellclara 2 жыл бұрын
makes sense
@ame-chan579
@ame-chan579 2 жыл бұрын
Desire is caring for the body Cherish is caring for the soul.
@tamelashafer8852
@tamelashafer8852 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Yes 👏🏼
@srubabotimukherjeemusic
@srubabotimukherjeemusic 2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@turquoisoul
@turquoisoul Жыл бұрын
Lust vs (agape) love. Lust loves the body vs. Jesus Christ who loves our soul (He is the lover of our soul) 🙏
@n0426
@n0426 Жыл бұрын
Sadly. They deserve none from you. You should keep both for someone who deserves them.
@norastorm99
@norastorm99 2 ай бұрын
​@@turquoisoul Naah real human connection is what we all need❤
@kristins4494
@kristins4494 2 жыл бұрын
This is so spot-on! As a "cherisher" who was formally enmeshed with a narcissist, I remember when it dawned on me that they're wired differently. All of my loving and tender gestures were wasted on someone who is incapable of feeling the same way. That's when you cut your losses and leave. There has to be better humans out there. 🌼
@Fistmybeer
@Fistmybeer 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed!!! ^^
@allycole4145
@allycole4145 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed❤️
@kimberlykatiti6969
@kimberlykatiti6969 Жыл бұрын
Yeeessss
@HeeersEllery
@HeeersEllery 2 жыл бұрын
Desire is being that shiny bauble in a store window. Something, that after walking away from it, is easily forgotten until the next “desire” appears. It’s a superficial attachment. Cherish is that worn out stuffed animal from childhood that you take through life with you, never to be discarded.
@valeriehoule5300
@valeriehoule5300 2 жыл бұрын
That's an excellent way of putting it!
@redredkroovy
@redredkroovy 2 жыл бұрын
What a WONDERFUL WAY to explain it! Aww .thank you.
@MeloBurgers
@MeloBurgers 2 жыл бұрын
🐄🤍
@n0426
@n0426 Жыл бұрын
It is a beautiful feeling.
@n0426
@n0426 Жыл бұрын
It is a beautiful feeling. To know if someone is a narcissist. Just clean that stuffed animal and put some good clothes on it. If they still love it. They are not. If they start spitting on it. They are. Run and never look back.
@marotiem
@marotiem 2 жыл бұрын
Two of my narcissistic boyfriends used cherishing in place of lovebombing. They sensed that that's what I needed, so they delivered it. One of them pursued me for 9 months before I gave in. He was the most caring and selfless person I knew. The other one did not even touch me or kissed me for a month, because he knew I wanted to build it up slowly. Ha was selfless and attentive and nurturing. But both of them switched and turned into a monster as soon as I admitted how much they meant to me. They did not tolerate my boundaries anymore and they said the opposite things they said before. The moral of the story: Narcissists can treat you any way you want in order to get you in the beginning. If you want big gestures, they lovebomb you, if you want nurturing they will cherish you and make you feel secure. It's just an act for them and only last for so long.
@pumpkins0
@pumpkins0 2 жыл бұрын
This was pretty much my experience too. I didn't realize I was in trouble because the lovebombing didn't really resemble love-bombing. There was some intense desire but no dramatic proclamations, no rushing into things, nothing that felt forced or too "big." There was attentiveness and nurturing, encouragement, gentleness, and what overall felt like a slow burn, reliable type of love. All of which completely vanished, replaced by contempt and disdain after a few months.
@jozzz222
@jozzz222 2 жыл бұрын
@@pumpkins0 same experience too. Why does this happen?
@ununhexium
@ununhexium 2 жыл бұрын
@@jozzz222 They figure out what you want and give it to you to win you over, then they feel free to become their true selves.
@1986nitya
@1986nitya 2 жыл бұрын
Damn....that's scary. Thank you for your comment. I was of the opinion that narcs rush too soon into things(this is what happened with me), but now I know that there are more hideous versions of narcs out there who can fake shit for longer durations.
@isabelcardona6847
@isabelcardona6847 2 жыл бұрын
That confusing pattern kept me in for almost 7 years, living with him in another country. I was on my 15’s when I met him and now I’m 22 and I feel like I’ve live a whole live. I’m done with others drama. Saludos desde Colombia
@dosintha1
@dosintha1 2 жыл бұрын
To me, the word "Cherish" sounds so soothing. I'd go for cherish any day
@deadislander
@deadislander 2 жыл бұрын
🤝 ditto
@gigibtsurvivor3348
@gigibtsurvivor3348 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite songs, too. 🥰
@CandaceLeAnne
@CandaceLeAnne 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto … the one who cherishes you sees the long road ahead of you that you MUST walk and they buy two pair of the best supportive walking shoes for your journey. One pair for you to aid, strengthen, and support your feet, and one pair for themselves so they can keep you encouraged and comforted as they walk beside you.
@dosintha1
@dosintha1 2 жыл бұрын
@@CandaceLeAnne that's beautifully put!
@barbibutton9619
@barbibutton9619 2 жыл бұрын
But how do u know? I'm so afraid of wasting more years...lost 17 to the last narc..what if all I attract are narcs? Geez. I feel like I can't trust myself anymore
@survivorship4290
@survivorship4290 2 жыл бұрын
Spot, on!! 💯 "To be Cherished is quite different than desire. To be cherished is to be valued, to be safe and protected, to be cared about. To cherish someone is to be aware of their needs in a way such that you sort of meet people where they are at. You don't push them to do things that are uncomfortable or rush them. You just take good care of them." ~Dr Ramani
@Rogel957
@Rogel957 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, so spot on!! Thank you 💚
@anorma9
@anorma9 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Ramani, I hope you are taking care of yourself (not just everyone else.) You mentioned in a previous video that you are going through some trauma. You are so valuable to so many people, we need you to not burn out and not get dragged down by the subject of your important work. I hope you have joy in your life. Thank you
@Sandra-mq1nb
@Sandra-mq1nb 2 жыл бұрын
I was shocked, when I watched this video! Does anyone know about it? Dr. Ramani doesn't look healty 😮 Be blessed & much love to Dr. Ramani AND all of YOU♥️
@kelligray1848
@kelligray1848 2 жыл бұрын
I was remembering that too and often pray for you Dr. Ramani. I hope you are taking care of you too. You are sooooo spot on.
@youprobablyalreadyknow8947
@youprobablyalreadyknow8947 2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna comment similarly!
@Thankful305
@Thankful305 2 жыл бұрын
Pouring yourself out for others everyday is exhausting. She is a messenger with an important message! The need is huge and we can tell she wants to help all of us trapped in these entangled relationships. I hope she has others pouring into her life and healthy outlet’s 🙏
@latyraRudolph50
@latyraRudolph50 2 жыл бұрын
Praying for you Dr.
@kathleenlourde1475
@kathleenlourde1475 2 жыл бұрын
This cleared up so much for me that I literally cried. I'm sorry it wakes you in the middle of the night, Dr. Ramani, but I'm grateful you made the video.
@thesingerintheshower
@thesingerintheshower 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, too, Dr. Ramani. I empathize with you. You are a fierce warrior on the front lines of narcissism. Through your sacrifice you protect us and you bring us knowledge. Thank you for being our rock.
@marcialao7589
@marcialao7589 2 жыл бұрын
As a MHC who also took the deep dive into learning any and everything Narcissist related can relate. You are so fabulously presenting information that needs to be taught. I am sorry that you also have experienced too many narcs and hope your beautiful self feels cherished.❤️
@barbibutton9619
@barbibutton9619 2 жыл бұрын
I know...ditto...what you said...🌺🌸🌷
@shaqmar
@shaqmar 2 жыл бұрын
I cried too😢
@jmabel86
@jmabel86 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I had this video 10 years ago 😭 I felt the same way, very emotional after hearing it.
@davidpaulzimmer
@davidpaulzimmer 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Ramani, we are lucky to have someone with so much practical and academic expertise making this content. Thank you for everything you do.
@samanthawinchester2994
@samanthawinchester2994 2 жыл бұрын
This is a must watch for anyone even considering getting back into the dating pool after narcissistic abuse! Thank you!! 🤗
@petekdemircioglu
@petekdemircioglu 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly 💚💜
@sll110
@sll110 2 жыл бұрын
yed
@monicarosa1301
@monicarosa1301 2 жыл бұрын
Yes we are lucky to have her ❤️
@redredkroovy
@redredkroovy 2 жыл бұрын
I SWEAR DR.RAMANI IS AN INSTRUMENT OF MY HIGHER POWER.She truly KNOWS what WE'RE going through.
@kdmylove
@kdmylove 2 жыл бұрын
Desire vs Cherish People are vulnerable to being desired. It is something that so many people want because to be wanted is such a universal thing. To be cherished is to feel safe, to be valued and cared about. To cherish someone is to be aware of their needs in a way such that you meet people where they are at. You don’t push people to do things that are uncomfortable or rush them. You just take good care of them. To cherish someone means to balance your needs with someone elses. That idea of mutuality. . Desiring is taking over someone and to be desired is so primal and so over whelming and in some ways people want the bigness and brightness of it. Ordinary life does not really always co exist with desire. It is hard to keep up with anything intense. In healthy relationships, cherish is what slowly follows from the sizzle. In a narcissistic relationship what follows is devaluing and discarding. Not cherishing. The fine art of cherishing and being cherished is something we should learn. It may look dull and unexciting but a relationship that starts off with cherishing, those are often relationships that stand the test of time. Cherishing isn’t glamorous like cinema portrays it. Big proposals, big declarations of love, flying across the world so on and so forth. Cherishing requires, empathy, self awareness, valuation of the other person and the willingness to make adjustments for another person So what does cherishing look like? It is listening. Really listening and shaping awareness around that. An example. You may share a vulnerability with me. I will attempt to ensure that that you’re kept safe in that vulnerability. Let us say you’re terrified to swim in the ocean, I don’t push you into it. I hear you. Cherishing is making compromises without throwing a tantrum. It is about not pushing you in a way that feels uncomfortable whether, sexually or physically. Cherishing is about never *weaponising* your vulnerabilities. Cherishing is about not competing with you in a way because they feel threatened by you. Even if your success is eclipsing their, they still enjoy that your succeeding. Now cherishing has to be a two way street because in healthy relationships, cherishing is mirrored. When one is a narcissist and one is a cherisher, the cherisher ends up as the care giver, and the compromise maker and the flexible one and the other party just keeps overwhelming you with big proclamations of love and may be some acrobatic sex. In childhood not a lot of people are cherished and this carries into adulthood. It sets the tone to over value the intense dynamics of desire. Short lived moments that you have to always keep chasing. It starts to feel exciting when it comes along rather than the daily knowing that you’re important and special and cherished. The dynamics of desire serves as a curtain that blocks us from seeing red flags that keep us stuck in an undesired space that is really hard to get out of. We all deserve to be cherished and we should all hold out for that. *On a day to day basis, cherishing is soft and quiet and looks like sweatpants and chicken soup and that my friend is the stuff of life and churns out relationships that are supportive and growth oriented for a life time*
@lauvelita3369
@lauvelita3369 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment
@anointedone1995
@anointedone1995 6 ай бұрын
So insightful! Thank you for this
@VirginiaSunrise11
@VirginiaSunrise11 2 жыл бұрын
As someone that has been in a narcissistic relationship and is now in a cherishing relationship (12 year, married 10 now). The difference is so vast it is awe inspiring.
@Livingingratitudeforever
@Livingingratitudeforever Жыл бұрын
I’m freshly out of a ten year marriage to a narcissist and feel like I’m too damaged/awkward/traumatized to love again. What are some tips for healing so I can believe in love again? 🥺 Thank you and congratulations! You deserve healthy ❤
@lt827
@lt827 11 ай бұрын
Good for you!
@Mithreniel
@Mithreniel 10 ай бұрын
​@@Livingingratitudeforever Listening to affirmations help a lot
@KurosakiLuvar01
@KurosakiLuvar01 2 ай бұрын
@@LivingingratitudeforeverI don’t get how tf people jump right back into a relationship after that crap too. Makes no sense to me.
@dosintha1
@dosintha1 2 жыл бұрын
I told my now ex husband that I detest balloons because they terrify me. From that day onwards, every celebration at our place, whether birthday or anniversary or welcome party, a bouquet of balloons was waiting for me! 😳 Your sleepless moments are working wonders ma'am. Thank you so much
@edlamircoelho5402
@edlamircoelho5402 2 жыл бұрын
I am sorry for that. I hope you are safe now. When I was a child I told my narcissistic parent that I was afraid of movies about Extraterrestrials. But then that parent insisted on watching only movies about Extraterrestrials with us for a long time.
@robincrowflies
@robincrowflies 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh. Terrible! I hate balloons, too, not because they terrify me, but because they cause so much damage to the environment.
@dosintha1
@dosintha1 2 жыл бұрын
@@edlamircoelho5402 wow that's horrible! I am safe now - after going no contact. Although he still figures out ways to reach my voice-mail box.
@BobTheSchipperke
@BobTheSchipperke 2 жыл бұрын
But of course he did. 😵 I'm sorry you had to deal with that.
@dosintha1
@dosintha1 2 жыл бұрын
@@BobTheSchipperke thanks...
@fairygurl9269
@fairygurl9269 2 жыл бұрын
"I would Rather be Respected, than Loved. As Respect can Grow into Love. AND I would Much Rather be Loved than Needed. " 💞✌ Much Respect to you Ma'am
@janetwestwood9194
@janetwestwood9194 2 жыл бұрын
🤔👍🇬🇧
@sma5559
@sma5559 2 жыл бұрын
This is so true. Glad you reminded me about that.
@mikeb5925
@mikeb5925 2 жыл бұрын
When someone says they love u too soon i take it as them expressing they love the way u make them feel. Theres a big difference between this and real love in a healthy relationship.
@aniefro2403
@aniefro2403 2 жыл бұрын
As a female . I’ve experienced this with males and females. With females : you’ve only just met and they declare you their BFF. With men the focus in “I love you” is “I” and not love like you said. It’s about how you make them feel. So many times I’ve been called an Ice Queen for not responding with equal warmth. Being a person who values being compassionate this is a trap I’ve fallen into - trying to be warmer out of guilt and manipulation. It’s so good to be able to discern the game they are playing and walk away.
@jdelacruz1058
@jdelacruz1058 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's perfectly acceptable to take a break from focusing on narcissists. You've helped us all a lot and you have plenty of content here. Please take care.
@peterknyk1942
@peterknyk1942 2 жыл бұрын
I was desired when I was needed and otherwise I didn't matter! The narcissist was very lovey-dovey when she wanted something from me but at other times it seemed like I didn't even exist! Of course, that was confusing and in retrospect, as I now look at it, humiliating and cruel....
@Afarmer690
@Afarmer690 2 жыл бұрын
This resonated so hard with me. His love bombing always always always includes a sexual aspect. In the beginning, I felt desired in a way I had never been before. The sex was intense and so emotionally overwhelming. Looking back I can see now that he wasn't being intimate, he was performing. Making me feel desired was the bait and I swallowed it all down, hook line and sinker. He uses that same tactic when he feels like I've wiggled a little too far from his control. If that doesn't work, he will do the cold and removed act, trying to push my fear of abandonment button and if THAT doesn't work he will get angry over some small thing and try to bully me into a corner until I break. Once that happens he becomes gentle and soothing until he is secure that I won't stray too far again anytime soon.
@lisadeangelo244
@lisadeangelo244 2 жыл бұрын
My story is quite similar to your. Mine, however, after a rage usually goes quiet. He doesn't ice me out but he definitely gives me space. But I the rage, he won't stop until I break down, or at least appear to.
@Afarmer690
@Afarmer690 2 жыл бұрын
@@lisadeangelo244 it seems like a common scenario for so many people involved in these types of relationships.
@MsRedbelly
@MsRedbelly 2 жыл бұрын
This exactly describes my covert narc ex. I recently cracked at his hoovering, he’s living with his new supply, but every few weeks tries lovebombing /hoovering which involves all his regret for discarding/cheating on me, his apologies, how much he misses & loves me, that he’s only housemates now with this woman & has told her he still loves me. If I succumbed to the lovebombing it would end with sex/intimacy. He’d then go back ‘home’, no contact, ghosting, stonewalling, or being rageful if challenged on anything, hanging up on me, yelling or being disdainful. All the opposite energy of the seduction/lovebombing. He was using this technique when I went ‘grey rock’ working up to ‘no contact’. I now realise it’s a technique to push my abandonment wound that he’s very aware of.
@CandaceLeAnne
@CandaceLeAnne 2 жыл бұрын
Wow … your story put me right in the middle of the pain and anxiety this male caused you. It really hurts to hear. And then seeing so many others respond with like stories of this rough and abusive treatment just made my heart ache. I hate that you went through this and/or maybe you are still experiencing the remnants of it. It has become so clear to me that so many men never learn to love anyone, not even themselves. These reports all sound like toxic temper tantrums that these large children, posing as adults, learned to throw to get their way and to get their many desires met without ever having to give the one thing they were designed to give, love. I have my own terrible stories too but I don’t want to share them at this time. I’m just exhausted emotionally, socially, and culturally with terroristic, toxic male behavior in the world.
@annthomas7869
@annthomas7869 2 жыл бұрын
Gosh… sounds like you wrote my marriage! I thought this man took me to a new level sexually because he just ‘got me’. I don’t know how he did it but now that love bombing is over, I have no attraction because their is no intimacy. The truth is - there really never was. I was being love-bombed.
@abdulc5726
@abdulc5726 2 жыл бұрын
We need to cherish ourselves more and then maybe we won't let people that want to be desired in / stay.
@barbaravaupel3950
@barbaravaupel3950 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Ramani, you are so wise. I was involved with two narcissists before I was fortunate enough to find a man who would cherish me. We had forty-seven years together ! Cherishing is far superior to love-bombing !
@cherylwestbrook5526
@cherylwestbrook5526 2 жыл бұрын
You nailed it! The difference between cherish and desire is that cherish is that small tiny voice in your head and in your heart that you know that that person has "your back". As mentioned in the video, it's the desire to help you or to make adjustments in life that shows that they care and not be "used against you".
@aliceroberts1980
@aliceroberts1980 2 жыл бұрын
Yes has your back my narcissistic husband very gave me that they don’t k ow anything about that it’s like an empty shell of a relationship !
@edelweissdebergbaldrian7696
@edelweissdebergbaldrian7696 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely tough when everything you say and do gets used against you; and you get no help or compassion.
@Linda2
@Linda2 2 жыл бұрын
Love your description of cherished. You are so correct
@leahc8347
@leahc8347 2 жыл бұрын
Is it weird never to have had that? Even your own parent want to ruin your reputation or siblings just to eagre to help your abusers. Then find it happening again and again and then think its normal. Until one last person/partner tipped your sanity to no more being able to internalise and take on the the abuse pain. Your body hijacks you no mercy for ignoring it and enduring injustices so long in silance and bowing in humbleness to the abusers. And at this point, when you almost lost all your sanity, when you feel like you are physically and emotionally going to die, you find out, and made aware of what narcissist abuse is. You soak up all this information but it doesn't fully sink in. But its too little too late. Yet has been a milston and anchor to know where to go and what to do from here. But to change the identity of not being the "crazy" person, and the daily and nightly cptsd etc that you gotta hide to look normal... its almost like damn, you are stuck in deep sh*t. If all my life I tried to ' self improve' and be 'good enough' after being so 'broken', and thinking it was my fault, not theirs, is not swallowable, now even the hidden truth you know now, leaves you exausted and bedbound, massicared by your memories and nero-pain driving you crazy, and worrying what everyone thinks of you or if the next person you talk to might be manipulator or emotional abusive person or even Narcissistic or Psycopathic... its like these behaviours are everywhere, and you start to think are my standards too high ? But no you are right, you perceived right, just you dont want to except it. I was ment to be stupid ugly uneducated misfit. What I didn't know (alittle to late) that not even I wasn't stupid, facts prove I was really smart! And not ugly, but to a degree even attractive. But I still cant shake that feeling of my place of being "sub-human" for all I went through which I won't disclose here. Take care of yourself, because sometimes that is exactly what abusers want you not to do. (Even dressed up as altruism or religion which appeals to a goodhearted persons nature. We forget we are also the gift to the world too and it is not selfish to do so, but self care).
@edelweissdebergbaldrian7696
@edelweissdebergbaldrian7696 2 жыл бұрын
@@leahc8347 I know, it's all very hard to deal with. 😣
@Molly-eq1ix
@Molly-eq1ix 2 жыл бұрын
WOW! I'm just leaving a relationship where I was desired but not cherished. Oddly enough I complained about the lack of being cherished to this individual. The safety part of it was so lacking. I felt he was constantly competing with me. Thanks for the support.
@unconversantcallowincandes1540
@unconversantcallowincandes1540 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you are getting out
@Molly-eq1ix
@Molly-eq1ix 2 жыл бұрын
@@unconversantcallowincandes1540 Thanks for the support!
@unconversantcallowincandes1540
@unconversantcallowincandes1540 2 жыл бұрын
@@Molly-eq1ix absolutely Molly, I am so proud of You for standing up for yourself!! Well Done 💯👏
@michignamymichigan
@michignamymichigan 2 жыл бұрын
Love controls All, not their competitiveness. I hope you are healing from the situationship you've survived.
@annag467
@annag467 2 жыл бұрын
You go, Miss Molly! I've stepped in and out again of these bizarre silent competitions that i called a relationship in the past also. It's just not right 💖 go cherish and be cherished
@SAIVSS
@SAIVSS 2 жыл бұрын
This video is an eye-opener for me. I did "desire" the "desire" part of a relationship and when I finally met my husband who wanted to cherish me (and still does), I responded with disappointment and sadness over the lack of the "desire". I mean, it was there time to time, but I saw "cherishing" as not loving me enough to desire me, but just doing his duties as my partner. Of course, 4 years later, I realize he is the ultimate best husband and I appreciate him and love him sooooo much. I am truly lucky to have my husband by me... this video really highlights that and gave me a reason to reflect and learn. I will put aside my need for the "desire" part of things and I, too, will focus on cherishing my husband as much as he cherishes me. Thank you!
@stellandawiro1145
@stellandawiro1145 2 жыл бұрын
This is so informative..i did the same.I have been chasing for desire. Now i know that cherishing is what matters
@MeloBurgers
@MeloBurgers 2 жыл бұрын
beautifully said. glad u woke up before you pushed him away.. 💘💘💘
@sandrazawada5316
@sandrazawada5316 2 жыл бұрын
WOW! I understand totally! I never was cherished and I only focused on cherishing after 3 narc husbands. I never had a cherished relationship so for you to have it and appreciate it is HUGE! Congrats!
@blueskies773
@blueskies773 Жыл бұрын
Oh, I love this.
@salam12290
@salam12290 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that desire meant being loved, but after 6 years of toxic marriage, I realized that narcissists don’t respect boundaries, and that’s why I was “chased” despite my efforts to end the relationship in its early stages. Thanks for this guidance on healthy cherishing relationships 🙏
@sarahkay8784
@sarahkay8784 2 жыл бұрын
Being my narcissistic relationship became a literal second job. I was only able to leave because I was beyond exhausted from it. I was emotionally, spiritually and physically drained. I think I slept and ate for 3 days after I went no contact. I have recently met someone and his compliments are low key, appropriate. We have long talks and we laugh. It feels different and it’s been a challenge but I can feel the difference.
@edelweissdebergbaldrian7696
@edelweissdebergbaldrian7696 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very happy for you, best wishes!
@estyrer
@estyrer 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. You are describing what I’m going through right now. I have been so physically drained from having to not only minimize my needs and who I am, but also try to educate them about my needs, at no avail. For one week I’ve been enjoying spending time on my own like never before. Just being there for myself. They’ve realized im gone and have amped up their “big words” game (shocking), and im giving in a little, but keep reminding myself of the facts. Your message just brought me renewed strength.
@estyrer
@estyrer 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope your new guy is different! At least we learn…
@sarahkay8784
@sarahkay8784 2 жыл бұрын
@@estyrer 2 months and steady as a rock. Very consistent in his communications and what he says matches his words. At first it felt weird. Being used to a super fast pace but I've adjusted. It's a comfortable feeling but I also get butterflies when he smiles at me or I can make him laugh. Leaving the narc was the best thing ever, whether I met someone else or not.
@claratreeborn8647
@claratreeborn8647 2 жыл бұрын
@@estyrer Same here! 💪🏼 I'm at the end of the line. Planning on leaving in January or February.... but eeeek trying to figure out how to 'pull the trigger' so to say... I'm currently working on figuring out the best way and situation to bring up divorce.
@missaxl2003
@missaxl2003 2 жыл бұрын
Ive definitely been through that love-bombing stage. It was mesmerizing. Then, after 2 years and in just two days, he went from "Ill never leave you", "you're the woman of my life", "we'll grow old together" to "I hate you, get your shit out of here and get the fuck out of my life" (said with dead eyes) because I had met up with a buddy I do music with without telling him (as I feared his rage). He kicked me out in the middle of the night with my stuff in trash bags. Several days later,he tried to hoover me back with declarations of love and flattering while denying any responsibility but I blocked him. We had been together for two years. I'm shattered. I know I need to look for being cherished rather than being wanted. Thanks a lot!
@BetaBuxDelux
@BetaBuxDelux 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry you are going through this.
@orianam9835
@orianam9835 2 жыл бұрын
Just because you were scared of his ' rage ' menas you did 100%good. I also went through being kicked out in the middle of the night as i played tenis and friend he was jealous about joined the game. He also alologised and Even came to visit me in another country to only ty to kick me out again in my own country ! This time I said by by for good and kicked him out of my life!!!
@danielavallejo7306
@danielavallejo7306 2 жыл бұрын
I´m so sorry to hear this, I can relate to you. I was with a narc for 2 years as well. Time will help you to heal, and you are better without him. You can do this
@missaxl2003
@missaxl2003 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielavallejo7306 Thank you so much
@missaxl2003
@missaxl2003 2 жыл бұрын
@@orianam9835 You're right, fear has no place in a relationship!
@sandywichmann9292
@sandywichmann9292 2 жыл бұрын
„Making love on the kitchen table- sounds really uncomfortable“ oh, I can relate to that. It was never about what feels good, but always about what’s spectacular. What plays in the movie inside his head, not what the partner is into. Unfortunately I have never met someone who cherishes me, only guys who desired my body.
@aoifeaylyamayze6109
@aoifeaylyamayze6109 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds exactly like the difference I have always tried to make between "lust" and "love." One doesn't need to be narcissistic or involved with a narcissist to fall into this trap. Lust is exciting, chemical and therefore without great effort to create. It takes more effort to resist. Love is more effort to grow and maintain. It can be quick but it is rarely instantly intense. It requires getting to know another person more deeply. Lust is, at its core, selfish. It is a desire to satisfy your own cravings. The other is an object one uses to do this. Love, by contrast, is caring for someone as much as you do for yourself - focusing on them instead of yourself and seeking to help them, support their dreams and meet their needs as well as you can. It is "other-oriented." Lust is a passing phase - too intense to constantly endure. Love grows steadily and can last a lifetime. Lust can be very pleasurable, but love is the path to lasting joy.
@evawamor1
@evawamor1 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up from from neglectful parents, and traumatizing childhood, i often wonder if “being cherised” actually exists in this world? I have never met anybody who wants to cherish me.
@nataliaalfonso2662
@nataliaalfonso2662 2 жыл бұрын
It might, but not for everyone from others. Cherish yourself.
@nataliaalfonso2662
@nataliaalfonso2662 2 жыл бұрын
@Nina you don’t know them. This is an empty comment.
@tiffb1300
@tiffb1300 2 жыл бұрын
Me neither.
@joannafowler5340
@joannafowler5340 2 жыл бұрын
It does, after multiple narc relationships, I finally found my forever man who cherishes me.
@Jakilyn
@Jakilyn 6 ай бұрын
I'm in the same situation...I don't want to suspect everyone as being a narcissist but it's hard to believe genuine, empathetic men actually exist
@kryssysmith1486
@kryssysmith1486 2 жыл бұрын
After decades of being narcissistic relationships (and not knowing any better). I finally found somebody that (literally) cherishes and worships the ground I walk on. I've never felt so happy. I never thought I'd ever end up being cherished as a person I always thought I'd go through narcissistic abuse. It really is a foreign concept for us as survivors so when we meet the person who will cherish us (it throws us for a loop because we're always waiting for the other shoe to drop).
@claratreeborn8647
@claratreeborn8647 2 жыл бұрын
Yay!! I'm so happy for you!
@claratreeborn8647
@claratreeborn8647 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. It gives me hope that I will find the same when I finally leave.
@kryssysmith1486
@kryssysmith1486 2 жыл бұрын
@@claratreeborn8647 You're so welcome! It will take time but you'll get there.
@claratreeborn8647
@claratreeborn8647 2 жыл бұрын
@@kryssysmith1486 ❤️❤️❤️
@whiteoaksroad
@whiteoaksroad 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your channel every day for a month now. It has been critical in my healing process. This is the first time I've commented. So many videos about narcissism talk about the negative aspects of abuse, which are really important to identify and have allowed me to see things clearly when I was lost in the narcissi tic fog. But this video perfectly described what I have been feeling but couldn't articulate in a way that shifted my perspective profoundly. It gave me a very clear definition of what I want in a relationship, and I don't ever want to settle for less. I don't ever want my daughter to settle for less. I don't every want my friends to settle for less. The addictive experience of being desired is hard to turn away when you are desperate to be loved, but the love you crave is not in being desired - it is being cherished. Thank you for all your work. Your videos are invaluable.
@jonnaschomburg5931
@jonnaschomburg5931 2 жыл бұрын
Remember to rest and take time for yourself too. ❤
@lori-annefay4138
@lori-annefay4138 2 жыл бұрын
I think eventually we become immune as we're older, because we become jaded, skeptical. One thing that will help younger women is this: does he or she have a wholeness to their life? A stable place to live, a vehicle, career, family and friends? If they can care for themselves, they can care for you. Don't rescue, don't seek to fix. And don't fall for the love bombing of a married man. Single, meaning fully available, is a base foundation. Starting in friendship always helps. And I believe you nailed it Dr. Ramani! Being cherished will be the warm sweater around you when you're cold. Being desired means the heat will be gone when you need it most.
@colywogable
@colywogable 2 жыл бұрын
There are plenty of narcissistic abusers who make good money and have nice things.
@ellachallas
@ellachallas 2 жыл бұрын
@@colywogable That’s just one part of a ‘whole’ life. They may have money, but they may not have family, friends and a home (not a house, not a place, but a home). The idea here is that narcissistic people often need something that they can’t or have not been able to give themselves.
@sweet2sourr
@sweet2sourr 2 жыл бұрын
@@ellachallas my narc ex had close relationships with family, friends, had a home and was financially stable. He appeared well rounded accept he put me on a high pedestal and had only one other relationship before me.
@colywogable
@colywogable 2 жыл бұрын
@@ellachallas I completely understand. I just meant to point out that a narcissist can be wealthy, accomplished in their careers, and socially popular etc... So, it's hardly a foolproof checklist.
@helenhopper8646
@helenhopper8646 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully put.
@elaynepallist572
@elaynepallist572 2 жыл бұрын
This "desiring" defined my entire dating experience during early adulthood up into my 30's. It never felt good, but I was entirely enmeshed and invested in that trite Hollywood trope of the beautiful girl being pursued and desired by the handsome male lead in the movie. It's a rush, as you pointed out: it's spectacle on the highest level. I couldn't understand why these relationships always ended badly and on such a sour note. Only emotional maturity brought out the truth of real love.
@thornless9073
@thornless9073 2 жыл бұрын
How do you deal with that? The macho male beating his chest because he got The Girl - I don't want that for myself and I'm sick of it.
@ragacats
@ragacats 2 жыл бұрын
My partner keeps telling me how lucky I am to be desired. I find it stifling. I would much rather have cooperation and receptivity. I am ending 10 years together. Your videos helped me find the strength and clarity to leave this empty / seductive marriage.
@makaylahollywood3677
@makaylahollywood3677 2 жыл бұрын
I had to reteach myself what love looks like and feels like. I would get a buzz from the addictive sky-high behavior from the wrong people. It's like anything overindulged; but, you end up low, hung-over. Being cherished takes a bit of "trying it on for size". When you bring yourself down to earth from the clouds..you learn to be in the moment, experience all richness of life. You no longer look down from a cloud waiting for a fairytale. Imagine a baboon love-bombing another baboon. We are much more sophisticated, yet we miss out on the magic of basic healthy intimate connections.
@maxsupernova
@maxsupernova 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, your cat needs to be a co-host.
@liudmilaaleagaaguilera8876
@liudmilaaleagaaguilera8876 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are right, not the same, a big difference. Narcissists want you, it gives them validation, but won't cherish you, won't truly love you, won't see you, won't respect you, they won't care💔 Thank you Dr. Ramani 💖💖💖
@tootienottoofruitie1726
@tootienottoofruitie1726 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that they do not have the capability to cherish you
@liudmilaaleagaaguilera8876
@liudmilaaleagaaguilera8876 2 жыл бұрын
@@tootienottoofruitie1726 True, they can't. How sad is that for them, not being able to experience cherishing another human being💔
@tootienottoofruitie1726
@tootienottoofruitie1726 2 жыл бұрын
@@liudmilaaleagaaguilera8876 please be careful of caring for the narc.. good way to get into trouble and you will suffer🌹🕊️
@liudmilaaleagaaguilera8876
@liudmilaaleagaaguilera8876 2 жыл бұрын
@@tootienottoofruitie1726 Thank you for caring, I do appreciate it and you are right💖. I keep them at great distance😊
@tootienottoofruitie1726
@tootienottoofruitie1726 2 жыл бұрын
@@liudmilaaleagaaguilera8876 my best to you 🌹🕊️
@parajacks4
@parajacks4 2 жыл бұрын
Look after yourself and stay healthy doc. You’re important to us, we wouldn’t want to lose you.
@jamaicanjoyh6883
@jamaicanjoyh6883 2 жыл бұрын
to be PROTECTED!!
@dpkhygiene8880
@dpkhygiene8880 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! This was so spot on my relationship that ended a year ago. He would stand at the front window in the morning and wave goodbye to me as I left for work. But, if I didn’t wave back because I was focused on what I had to do for the day or focus on driving, he would text me and ask me why I didn’t wave. He made me feel like I was ignoring him. What looked like a sweet gesture was a selfish way of getting his supply for the day. What an a-hole. Your videos are so spot-on. Have a good day, Dr Ramani. You are a blessing to all of us suffering from narcisistic abuse.
@Sarablueunicorn
@Sarablueunicorn 2 жыл бұрын
So, you noticed him waving but wouldn't wave back because you were focused on what you had to do or driving? Seems like you had other priorities than retribute his small little gesture. 🤔 Narcissist or not wish people would look more into their own narcissistic ways.
@dpkhygiene8880
@dpkhygiene8880 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sarablueunicorn Thank you for that gaslighting remark. It was so kind of you.
@marcodarko6941
@marcodarko6941 2 жыл бұрын
It does not feel good to be strongly desired. It borders on downright predatory, grooming behavior. A total turn off that makes you feel sick inside each time you see it coming on. I see the vast difference between the two, desire and cherish. Thank you for explaining it so well.
@edelweissdebergbaldrian7696
@edelweissdebergbaldrian7696 2 жыл бұрын
@Marco: It makes me sick each time I see it too now because I know what it is, took long enough. Half wasted life.
@arkrainflood
@arkrainflood 2 жыл бұрын
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@edelweissdebergbaldrian7696
@edelweissdebergbaldrian7696 2 жыл бұрын
@@arkrainflood That was terrifying!🤮
@asociacionmexicanacontrade3209
@asociacionmexicanacontrade3209 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, its gross, unnatural
@marcodarko6941
@marcodarko6941 2 жыл бұрын
I'll go a bit further and say obsession. I've dealt with a few of those and they can be a bit gnarly, a tense, scary situation to deal with. It got so bad over the years and I don't mean to sound full of myself but I started to let myself go, try to blend in a bit in order to curb some of that intensity. It gets really old. I used to be hung up on my appearance so it kind of freed me in a way. @@asociacionmexicanacontrade3209
@fashionforwarddd
@fashionforwarddd 2 жыл бұрын
You perfectly described cherishing and what a truly healthy loving relationship should look like
@DuzaLee
@DuzaLee 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think you understand how valuable you are to this world! Considering how draining going through narc abuse is, I cannot imagine how exhausting it must be to always push this content. I am wishing you many peaceful nights 💕✨🧚🏾‍♀️🌙 thank you 🤗 for the amount of healing you’ve provided me.
@YukonFox1972
@YukonFox1972 2 жыл бұрын
This a million times! This explains why so many people suffer from loneliness-we’re starving for connection and the need to feel cherished. ❤️ That said, mutual, reciprocated desire is great for maintaining sexual chemistry in a romantic partnership, and those of us with higher libidos crave having an active sex life.
@morlaisward8685
@morlaisward8685 2 жыл бұрын
Desire is all about the narc, and represents conquest. They don't actually 'desire' YOU, so much as desire the acquisition of you. Winning you (over), having control over you, and the endless supply you will provide for them. Ah, but to be cherished, that just feels so different! I wish it for us all. Thank you Dr Ramani, a voice of reason, and beacon for all who have to navigate the treacherous waters of narcissism xx
@timothygenaw2199
@timothygenaw2199 2 жыл бұрын
If it feels good to be true, it is. Simple as that.
@dollya9929
@dollya9929 2 жыл бұрын
My father died tragically when I was young. I asked him what song should I request on the radio one day before he died and he said Cherish-Kool and the Gang. Now that I am older, I finally understand the difference of desired v. cherished. Thank you for this video.
@sandrazawada5316
@sandrazawada5316 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I had learned about narcissism many years ago. I know you know how much pain we go through as an empath. I was always trying to fix myself and be better. I cannot tell you how many tears I cried. Thank you for what you do. Please take care of yourself Dr. Ramani. I know it is taxing to do what you do. Your following really appreciates you for sure! Thank you again! I hope you are getting your just deserve!
@tawanawilliams6296
@tawanawilliams6296 2 жыл бұрын
Sister you need to woosa….you deserve the same peace you are tryna give us. Take a break. We will understand.
@menotyou6254
@menotyou6254 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I wish I could make her home made chicken soup. I want her to sleep through the night yet aren’t we all so incredibly grateful for this channel. Sending messages of appreciation and celebrating the divinity within each and everyone of you thank you 😊 homemade chicken soup to us all
@herrroy4963
@herrroy4963 2 жыл бұрын
The female narc said to me : "I have had so many troublesome relationships so I had REALLY decided to live alone. I was convinced that relationships is not for me..And then you walk in (to the store were she was working) and my WHOLE WORLD turns upside down. I had NEVER felt anything like it before, so I just had to figure out a way to get in touch with you again." I feel so stupid that I let myself be fooled. It was of course a lot more than the above, but I also learned a lot. They are so convincing when they love-bomb you and that rush you get in the beginning with a narc, that is something extraordinary. Unfortunately it has a big backside. I'm at least very glad I have not been in a long relation with a narc.
@WellnessAllAround
@WellnessAllAround Жыл бұрын
This one is so Helpful with one of my confusions. Even during the love bombing stage, he gave the type of love he wanted to gave me, he didn’t care what I wanted or liked to be treated. When I mentioned that, he would say ‘just take it’ almost annoyingly. I had the feeling that I was not cherished, but also thought he just didn’t know, he tended to pretend he didn’t understand situations. Now it’s SO clear that even the Love To You is all about themselves. It their own desire you get you hooked, they don’t genuinely love you!
@SiaLaterZ
@SiaLaterZ 2 жыл бұрын
You’re really having nightmares about information that could help us. You truly are an angel, out here saving lives. A million times, thank you.
@KalleenHa
@KalleenHa 2 жыл бұрын
I’m always amazed at the variety of content you put on your channel regarding narcissism. It always seems so relevant and timely. So thank you for being in tune with that inner voice that inspires you to say what you do. I can’t even imagine how encompassing this must be to come up with content that will be helpful to those of us seeking to understand this disorder better. So thank you again. And please take some time for yourself to relax and disengage. We would all totally understand if you needed to do that. 😊
@andrealeader4194
@andrealeader4194 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t have said it better… ditto 💕 You’ve been such a blessing in my life!
@tracydanneo
@tracydanneo 2 жыл бұрын
Agree.
@leegorringe5580
@leegorringe5580 2 жыл бұрын
Once again I get that spooky feeling that Dr Ramani is talking about the narcissistic husband of mine many many years ago!!! Of course that's not so though. The above video brought the following flashback so here goes. Mr G always wanted sex. In the beginning of our relationship I didn't mind. However in time there were three close pregnancies
@leegorringe5580
@leegorringe5580 2 жыл бұрын
and three babies which was quite exhausting and hardly made me feel like having sex incessantly. One evening I asked him if we could just sit around holding hands. Mr Gs answer was 'since I don't get it as often as I want it's too overwhelming to be near you without getting it. Try that for narcissistic logic! Mr G always had his answers. Such weird and illogical. However that's narcissism. Pls try and get through your nights without thinking about narcissism. I have seen that you have a 🙀 Put him/her next to you and listen to the purring.
@See_Life
@See_Life 2 жыл бұрын
KTH, yes well said! DrRamani is amazing at talking in details on all kinds of aspects of narcissistic abuse, it all ads up to help people build healthy immune system to deal with alien virus!
@KK-fg9py
@KK-fg9py 2 жыл бұрын
Wow - just hearing you say that you get woken up by bad dreams (just like we do!) - that your focusing on narcissistic relationships / abuse consumes your mind - I already knew you were dedicated, insightful, empathetic, & full of wisdom. But that's another level. I'm both sorry there's such a need for your work, & grateful that you do it. I've found it nearly impossible for others in my life - even professionals - to understand what happened / is still happening with my narc. ex & all the profound destruction. Often they think it's just a silly conspiracy theory, & I go back to staying silent about it. But sharing my youtube playlist of your videos does help :)
@KK-fg9py
@KK-fg9py 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe sometime you could revisit the malignant narcissist's tendency for vengeance / smear campaigns & weaponizing courts, please - mine has limitless resources (to my & my child's very little), & they've fully committed to aggressively playing the victim after finding documents we'd prepared to file (once we left & felt safe enough to report the abuse). We were almost there... now, three years later, it's so much worse. My daughter asks sometimes if I ever miss the direct abuse, because at least then it wasn't public; we were less isolated; still had work & family & friends & some peace. At least back then, it was only from my ex. Dealing with the fall-out is all-consuming. Threeyears since we've seen my ex in person, yet they still control nearly every aspect of our lives.
@karmacounselor
@karmacounselor 2 жыл бұрын
Kate is RIGHT! There IS a need for your work as we realize the world we are in iis run by narcissistic cold hearted controllers. I am stronger because of your information, told in such a helpful way! I can see the warning signs sooner to leave situations where I would have stayed longer before hearing you.
@LiveHappy76
@LiveHappy76 2 жыл бұрын
@@KK-fg9py I'm so sorry to hear about your hell-mare. :( I hear a lot in common with my narcissist...it's all about control for her, no such thing as a level playing field. She has her attorney paid for by a sympathizer, perjures as helps, and visited all other good local attorneys, which bars them from representing me (in NM). It is all-consuming. Sent a prayer your way. Hang in there!
@KK-fg9py
@KK-fg9py 2 жыл бұрын
​@@LiveHappy76 oh tysm for saying & sharing. Even the slightest support & understanding brings me to happy, grateful tears. It's unreal how much precious time, money, & other resources some people gleefully waste to harm others. Threats I never thought could possibly happen, have (& worse). When you don't think like that, it's such a gut-punch/surprise. Sending a prayer right back to u -The whole meeting-with-loads-of-local-attorneys so that you can't hire them is so gross, & so ... fitting ;/ You hang in there, too!❤️
@LiveHappy76
@LiveHappy76 2 жыл бұрын
@@KK-fg9py Likewise, thank you. Are you and your daughter safe from physical harm? Have you sought any protective orders? Most localities have violence shelters that help people file for protective orders, as may even law enforcement officers. I know how hard it can be to document certain abuses, especially done when no other legal witnesses are around. I use audio recorders, which may or may not be legal where you live. And it hurts when people take sides with the manipulative, lying narc who smears and knows no shame!
@margaretyoung4262
@margaretyoung4262 2 жыл бұрын
I googled “ The Association.” Listening to their oldie but goodie tune, “Cherish, “ brought tears. You are so wise! Cherish, not the narcissist’s desire,is the way to go🙏
@stefaniweiss2077
@stefaniweiss2077 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked this one. Thank you. You described exactly what I had and have always wanted. I suffered my whole life from never having been cherished from my narcissistic mother and depressed father. They did not love me and that makes me think why not and why was it so hard for them to love me. Man it’s sad, but it is reality.
@wannabefarmgirl9595
@wannabefarmgirl9595 2 жыл бұрын
I had this same experience growing up with my parents. I hope it will encourage you that we can learn to love ourselves, deeply and genuinely, and then it won’t have to be something we are seeking anymore from anybody…..it will always be there inside of us.
@unconversantcallowincandes1540
@unconversantcallowincandes1540 2 жыл бұрын
For what it's worth, you can love a person without being in love ( being in their company vs wanting to build a romantic relationship). To be cherished takes on the totality and entirety of a person. Dear Dr Ramani, For the days when it is hard I cherish you. For the days when it is good I love you. For everything in between, you are my aid and relief. Do take care of YOU, find time to put YOU first, we can wait. We're not going anywhere. Thank you for your generosity of time and effort and care for us! Sincerely, Rusty S Spike
@orielwiggins2225
@orielwiggins2225 2 жыл бұрын
This!!!
@theempoweredwomen8167
@theempoweredwomen8167 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to say all of this to dr ramani but wasn’t brave enough x Thankyou rusty x
@ThimbleFox350
@ThimbleFox350 2 жыл бұрын
Your job is so difficult to have to focus on such a negative aspect of life as your career but you help so many people Doctor Ramani. I'm so lucky and blessed to have found your videos that have helped me so much..and now I only come back to them when I'm having flashbacks and remembering with my past trauma. Thank you for what you do.
@heazzer012
@heazzer012 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. She is truly a gift.
@sll110
@sll110 2 жыл бұрын
@@heazzer012 yes!
@sagedakotalmft7763
@sagedakotalmft7763 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing dull about cherishing and being cherished!!
@melianelson9036
@melianelson9036 2 жыл бұрын
Even when circumstances prove time and time again that you cherish your Narc, it proves never enough!
@eaf888
@eaf888 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work, but sorry it affects you like it affects us all. Thanks for sharing!
@Caligirl.8630
@Caligirl.8630 2 жыл бұрын
To be cherished is to have a safe space with a safe person. Thank you for this insight.
@barbarawarren9443
@barbarawarren9443 2 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely one of your best videos ever, Dr. Ramani. ❤
@ominomi5130
@ominomi5130 2 жыл бұрын
I love that she continues to iterate how media has warped relationships for us. For most of human history, we never had a movie to look to that so artistically and passionately portrays what the producer deems to be love. And, some of us, have been indoctrinated with these ideas, by the media, since childhood. Narcissists are over-represented in Hollywood, relationships are short-lived and the divorce rates are high- something to remember. Real love is something that we often take for granted, it is "quiet" and long-lasting. The excessive in-your-face narcissistic courting strategies are pure theatrical manipulation tactics. I wish more people my age (I am in college) knew about this. As it stands now, if you tell your friends about everything that a narcissistic man is doing to win you over, in their naivety, friends will probably encourage it. Real love and loyalty is not something that you necessarily brag about to others but it is something that you know deep down, and that other people can see when you two are together for a long span of time, and in their jealousy, they might not even comment on it.
@chestnutrose187
@chestnutrose187 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you doctor. Your sacrifice when creating this content has helped me so much!
@Username74-b8h
@Username74-b8h 2 жыл бұрын
When I first watched your videos, I thought if narcissism day and night! So I can imagine how it is for you... I can't explain how thankful I am for you as you really saved my life.
@KidOmega-iv4tp
@KidOmega-iv4tp 2 жыл бұрын
I heard, "I'm addicted to you." That was so huge for me. I think my ensnarement really began then
@koolbeans8292
@koolbeans8292 4 ай бұрын
He didn't lie. Most addicts hate what they are addicted to.
@pannellclara
@pannellclara 2 жыл бұрын
so beautifully said, to be cherished is to be cared for & respected
@ggccministry8494
@ggccministry8494 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard it explained so gently in all my life. Wow, just wow!❤
@dianetgomez7410
@dianetgomez7410 2 жыл бұрын
Narcissist live in a never ending telenovela 🙄 they don’t seem fulfilled if there isn’t drama. The desire that you describe Dr. Ramani makes me feel completely grossed out by those types of people. Thank you, again, for your knowledge, kindness, and compassion 💕
@pegprather
@pegprather 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you again! Spent the last few months leaving my narcissistic husband of 26 years. Thought that perhaps I didn’t need to check in with you, now that the worst is over. But I’m so glad I found this one. I knew that something important was missing in my marriage, and you just summed it up. I don’t know if I’ll ever be in a relationship again, but being cherished will be at the top of the list if it does happen.
@rubycubez1103
@rubycubez1103 2 жыл бұрын
After a lot of self exploration, I realize Ive been codependent in all of my relationships. I do have narcissistic tendencies but I think these are defense mechanisms. I look back and realize all of my exes were narcs and made me out to be crazy. I haven't dated in a while but the next time I meet a potential romantic interest I'm going to make sure not to lead with that insecure girl inside. I need to be more rational. I just get so caught up in being desired, I don't realize I'm being used.
@lucycrown212
@lucycrown212 2 жыл бұрын
Ricky Gervais does cherishing so well in The After Life, and the romance between Jim and Pam in the Office is based on greatly understated cherishing
@annag467
@annag467 2 жыл бұрын
I've also cherished ricky gervais's content a lot recently 🥰
@pediatriasempressa4710
@pediatriasempressa4710 2 жыл бұрын
He really does! I didn’t notice it before reading your comment, but I guess that’s why the show warms my heart… because of how much I need that… ❤️
@Gshkent
@Gshkent 2 жыл бұрын
Another quote for my wall “Aim to be cherished not desired” 😊
@InfluencerAzia
@InfluencerAzia 2 жыл бұрын
Love bombing is AWFUL! It's happened to me before but now that I'm AWARE of this term, along with desire vs cherish, I won't EVER allow it to happen again. Grazie mille! Thank you! Muchisimas gracias Dr Ramani! You have saved my heart ❤
@ladysigma9654
@ladysigma9654 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly why I never liked being desired and it turns me off. Instead I've always wanted to be cherished 😒
@blue-mo1ge
@blue-mo1ge 2 жыл бұрын
We cherish YOU, Doc. ❤️
@Lizzard2060
@Lizzard2060 2 жыл бұрын
YES!!! I feel like to cherish them means you hear and listen to what they like and enjoy and respect it but you can surprise them with their favorite food because you paid attention or a gift that has meaning. That you value this person's ideas and input and there is no judgement. I remember in my healthy relationship when there was a band I had not heard of I would be introduced without judgement to it and told about it instead of "OMG, You don't know who this is!?!". There was mutual respect and they wanted me to learn about the world and their world and passions instead of expecting me to know and figure everything out by put downs.
@warriors300
@warriors300 2 жыл бұрын
You give and pour out soooo much! May the God of grace continue to enrich and cherish you in return!
@lboogs2158
@lboogs2158 2 жыл бұрын
This was so good. For me just leaving a toxic 18 year marriage 20 years in all, I find it very hard to put into words what I experienced. I question myself. But I’m very grateful for people who understand and teach the public about narcissism. It’s the first step to deprogramming your brain and reinforcing what you knew deep down, YOU ARE NOT CRAZY…. I never told anyone what I was going through because I didn’t understand it myself. Thank you for helping a lot us walk through this fog, eventually it will lift and we will be stronger and healthier ❤️❤️❤️
@zakirahg
@zakirahg 2 жыл бұрын
Very grateful for your work, I'm sorry to hear that you're waking up from your sleep. I hope that you're getting enough rest. Thank you for everything always.
@JR-dg5th
@JR-dg5th 2 жыл бұрын
WOW this is so true. In the beginning with my narc, he would buy me expensive gifts and I would feel pressured to give him equally expensive gifts even if I couldn't really afford it. He would be upset if my gifts were lackluster in comparison to his. Over time, he did not cherish me. You would think over time we'd grow closer together but we grew apart over the years due to the devaluing process and just me maturing, growing, and setting boundaries against him. He would not compromise and he would get angry at me if I didn't go along with whatever he wanted.
@lucyroth2671
@lucyroth2671 2 жыл бұрын
Nearly 8 years FREEEEE! And I was born into it. I am nearly 56 years old, but I will NOT DIE in this toxic pattern! I survived a religious Doomsday cult, abusive foster homes, and various forms of dysfunctional relationships into my adult years. It's a miracle I'm alive. It's even more of a miracle that I'm healthy and happy and NARC free! I've also been single and celibate for nearly 8 years, and I've been working on myself. You are such a huge part of this healing journey Dr. Armani. I really can't thank you enough. After years of therapy that didn't work, because they didn't understand, because I didn't understand. There's so much freedom now, and there's so much hope! Muchas gracias Hermosa!
@rik4673
@rik4673 3 ай бұрын
@ lucyroth2671 I am 55 years old and celibate for 10 years ! 😅 It would have ended earlier had I given in to the love bomber . Somehow, it just didn't feel right and I didn't cave in . For that, I was time and again called a prude !
@corinnem.239
@corinnem.239 2 жыл бұрын
My grandparents cherished each other by your description Thank you for making this video. It has reminded me what they were like and what I want.
@heyyoudegu1790
@heyyoudegu1790 2 жыл бұрын
Ready! Your videos have helped me tremendously thank you so much. Living happier !
@msg3tr1ght
@msg3tr1ght 2 жыл бұрын
I often say I cherish you instead of I love you, it feels more authentic to me. It best describes what I feel towards my loved ones
@lukaszbinkowski432
@lukaszbinkowski432 2 жыл бұрын
I’m just shaking my head in disbelief at how accurately you presented these nuances… it’s as if I’ve been watching my relationship backwards and then fast forward to painful end. Currently healing and trying to come back to the alive… thank you for your films and support.
@b.l.a.c.k-shiva
@b.l.a.c.k-shiva 2 жыл бұрын
Aw ✨ This is your purpose! You're beautiful ✨ Great video. Something to chew on and keep in mind as I raise my children and maybe even eek back out into the world. Peace and Health
@E.K.2003
@E.K.2003 2 жыл бұрын
Desire is synonymous with lust concerning the narcissist.
@anxiousvagabond2962
@anxiousvagabond2962 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many good points in this video! This explains why some relationships felt boring to me and why some felt exciting in the beginning, but became very toxic. Because of having ADHD I have had a pattern of looking for spontaneity and novelty in relationships and having hard time committing to stable and safe relationships.
@SharonFCorey
@SharonFCorey 2 жыл бұрын
This! Tears Dr. Ramani. Thank you for this. I am so grateful for you and your well delivered insight. To cherish and to be cherished.
@mahieb1622
@mahieb1622 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Ramani we need more people like you. Thank you
@shanzimmerman
@shanzimmerman 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful distinction. I’m letting this sink in real deep. This is really really really helpful. What a beautiful word, cherish. 💗
@cleonagretelgodinho2881
@cleonagretelgodinho2881 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for everything you do.
@rhondaj3154
@rhondaj3154 2 жыл бұрын
This gives me a real picture of what a healthy successful relationship looks like. That helps very much. I am lucky enough to have been cherished by my Father. I see that now. I mistook the love bomb as this. But I won’t ever again.
@moved5272
@moved5272 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. Ramani your work must be exhausting. But we do need you over here. Let's send her some love. 💜💚💙💛❤️💜🧡💙💛❤️
@mos8896
@mos8896 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t speak for anyone else, but I think the reason I ended up with a narcissistic husband is because he told me HIS need to feel wanted. I never really liked or loved him…I more pitied him. I guess I pitied him that he was always coming around me!
@rosettesionne9139
@rosettesionne9139 2 жыл бұрын
I need now to be in a relationship which makes me feel secure and stable. No more the emotional roller-coaster where I am adored one day when I do something good, and destroyed the next when I do something "bad" (made a mistake) the constant and intense push and pull almost made me suicidal it is tiring to live like that, I admit it is exciting (in the beginning) but not to be sustained in the long-term. Intensity is good when it is for a short time but at the end you will feel suffocated if you stay too long.
@KK-fg9py
@KK-fg9py 2 жыл бұрын
amen!
@shonda3641
@shonda3641 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I agree with you completely
@katieg.4593
@katieg.4593 2 жыл бұрын
GOD BLESS U RAMANI!!! U have ABSOLUTELY helped me so much!!! In so many ways. I admire you and appreciate you for all you do, for what you are which is completely decent, honest, caring and funny. (I also am glad to see someone else who can have grey streaks like me! UR very real)
@GoogleIsAPieceOfShit2023
@GoogleIsAPieceOfShit2023 2 жыл бұрын
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