The Story We Tell Ourselves | Pilgrims and Thanksgiving

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America was founded when a group of Protestant Christians, fleeing religious persecution in Europe, made the harrowing journey across the Atlantic. Except, no it wasn't and no they weren't. This story is a lie.
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This Land is Their Land: The Wampanoag Indians, Plymouth Colony, and the Troubled History of Thanksgiving (2019)
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The Wordy Shipmates (2008)
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We Shall Remain (2009)
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American Experience: The Pilgrims (2015)
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Children's Books
…If You Sailed on the Mayflower in 1620 (1991) - amzn.to/3YdA2v7
The Story of the Pilgrims (1995) - amzn.to/3FHSZ1W
If You Were At The First Thanksgiving (2001) - amzn.to/3UL5caw
The Very First Thanksgiving Day (2006) - amzn.to/3UL5fmI
Pete the Cat: The First Thanksgiving (2013) - amzn.to/3HqmXZp
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The Simpsons S17 E18 “The Wettest Stories Ever Told”
South Park S4 E13 “Helen Keller! The Musical”
South Park S15 E13 “A History Channel Thanksgiving”
The Brady Bunch S2 E4 “The Un-underground Movie”
Happy Days S6 E12 “The First Thanksgiving”
This is America, Charlie Brown Ep 1 “The Mayflower Voyagers”
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@KnowingBetter Жыл бұрын

Check out Atun-Shei's playlist on King Philip's War - kzfaq.info/sun/PLwCiRao53J1zC_zUgjuB7hIVreGthh9nF And my Jamestown Saga - kzfaq.info/sun/PLw4gGsuBRykWMCwMl6gMzcAXEg4DHG45W Corrections: Nobody was burned at the Salem Witch Trials, but medieval execution methods were still used. Likewise, Martin Luther nailing his 95 Theses to the church is disputed. But he definitely published and distributed it.

@donnytonny730 Жыл бұрын

got nebula just for you, can’t wait for the weekend to get high and watch this with my mom

@literalantifaterrorist4673 Жыл бұрын

been watching you since middle school and now i’m about to graduate, thanks for teaching me real history my teachers didn’t.

@grimtea1715 Жыл бұрын

Your the best bro

@johngerity Жыл бұрын

What? only ONE hour??? Is this a short follow up?

@gaslitworldf.melissab2897 Жыл бұрын

So glad this is not a short video. You're a rare enough feature on YT. Since I'm not a gamer, this is the only time I see your content, but RARE is GOOD when the content is such HIGH quality.

@AlexWaardenburg Жыл бұрын

How much time it must spend to scour every media interpretation of those events just to discover the Simpson's portrayal is the most accurate. This guy's dedicated!

@UserName_no1 Жыл бұрын

I can only imagine what he found in South Park material.🙄🤔😏

@letmedie4524 Жыл бұрын

@@UserName_no1 it would be some weird libertarian interpretation about how both parties suck.

@G_FRE Жыл бұрын

@@letmedie4524 What else would you expect? 😹

@Praisethesunson Жыл бұрын

@@G_FRE A fart joke or two I guess

@jakobebryant8189 Жыл бұрын

@@letmedie4524 it would be unreasonable to assume the idians as a whole were completely perfect and not hostile to anyone whatsoever.

@Pokemaster-wg9gx Жыл бұрын

I fucking love how this guy really released a Thanksgiving video in January

@jake967 Жыл бұрын

Gotta wait for quality, baybee!

@crakkbone8473 Жыл бұрын

He’s basically a genius

@sp0ck1p Жыл бұрын

@@jake967 Strange thing is, I was just thinking about the very questions this video answers on the day before its release. Maybe this timing somehow makes sense. Or maybe it's mere coincidence :)

@warlordofbritannia Жыл бұрын

All true Christians ought to spend each day as giving thanks to the Lord for his blessings, heathen!

@douglasboyle6544 Жыл бұрын

As we learned, Thanksgiving Day is never really set in stone.

@MAR1N4M1 Жыл бұрын

It's wild that my mother taught me all of this growing up. It used to get me into arguments with my teachers. I literally was the Waterboy with the whole "well, my momma said..." in school. 🤣

@tomsdottir Жыл бұрын

You were fortunate, having the mother you had.

@jujutrini8412 Жыл бұрын

I was taught this too when I was a kid. I went to America when I was in university in the nineties and was shocked when I told them what I knew about the settlement of America and how I was somewhat puzzled by their Thanksgiving celebrations. Some of my fellow students were shocked by what I told them and upon doing their research were happy to agree with me, some just decided I was an eccentric British person who knew nothing! I was so surprised so few knew about it. 😂😂😂

@BIGBOPPER41 Жыл бұрын

Mo-mo-momma said the mi-military industrial complex was c-called out b-by dis nice army man n-named Mista Butler, love that movie. But this video was definitely helpful with setting things straight in my mind about what went down.

@moxiebombshell 11 ай бұрын

@@jujutrini8412as a teenager in the US, back in the days of AOL I made a friend online who lived in Liverpool. we talked online and even wrote each other paper letters and sent mixtapes and books to each other. The biggest thing was we would always keep each other abreast of whatever we learned each other's country was up to, because we realized pretty quickly that our education about our own country was much more sanitized and propaganda heavy than on other countries - ditto for news coverage. (side note: if anyone knows someone who's online handle in the late 90s was "RLocke8813," please let me know? I'd love to catch up with the guy 😅)

@jacksonbenecke834 9 ай бұрын

L ... m., 48:29 48:35

@dannydumlet Жыл бұрын

You know even as a kid I was confused by the pilgrims thanksgiving myth back as a kid cause I wondered "when did we start fighting them." Even then it felt like there was a lot of pieces missing.

@raydgreenwald7788 Жыл бұрын

I think I was like 7 when I started wonderibg where all the native americans had gone

@Crowald Жыл бұрын

Yeah this is what bothered me into figuring out the truth too. I was like eight or nine and I just kept seeing giant swathes of history seemingly missing in a time where everything that happened seemed to be at least somewhat well-documented. That's part of the joy of modern technology. History is far better recorded than ever before, and the things that happen today and in the modern era will be available from all sides, disallowing someone from telling their own version of a story without recourse or contention. For all of the sins the internet commits, it is the best wealth of information humanity has access to. It's powerful and hopefully, in the future, we learn to misuse it less often than we do currently. I really despise the mythologizing of non-religious events. Telling fables is for fantasy, telling the truth is for history, and... a lot of conservatives seem to take offense to that conceptualization of the past. Anyway. Don't trust American education, always do your own research. Especially when it's about us; I was lucky to learn young from my father that "The most often that people lie is not about others, but about themselves, their accomplishments, and those they've wronged. It's especially true if the "person" in question is in fact, an entire country."

@jeffreygao3956 8 ай бұрын

Uncivil History says hi!

@benjaminjenkins2384 5 ай бұрын

@@Crowaldthe internet won't stop people from telling myths. So far it's only been made easier.

@jeffreygao3956 5 ай бұрын

@@benjaminjenkins2384 And also easier for debunking!

@fritzophrenia3146 Жыл бұрын

I like that he makes pains to point out that the Native Americans were just... people. They were independent moral agents, capable of just as much duplicity, backstabbing and cruelty as any European. They had goals and schemes and personal ambitions just like any other human. I mean hell, Tisquantum's plan wouldn't be out of place in Game of Thrones or something They're not savages that have no concept of morals or gods, but nor are they perfect "state of nature" type humans that were living in perfect harmony with themselves and nature. I do find that even though the intention is good, white people talking about Indian history tend to infantilize them a little bit, taking away a lot of their agency, which KB does not do

@fritzophrenia3146 Жыл бұрын

@@fnhatic6694 mald

@fnhatic6694 Жыл бұрын

@@wack8697 Yeah you're right, I'm sure there's some other magical reason or some shit why Africans didn't evolve beyond the stone age in 50,000 years of isolation from Europe. I'm sure the fact that everything from skull shape to blood to digestive processes are genetically different somehow means it's impossible for things like intelligence to be greater or lower in different phenotypical expressions of the human genome. Totally impossible. Even though we recognize that trait in literally every single animal on the planet. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. Even dog breeds we recognize some are smarter than others. But humans? Nah, obviously the postmodern take on hibbity-jibbity nonsense is correct, all humans are totally the same. They just never invented trivial concepts like literacy and wheels for some other reason. Probably because of racist cops, right?

@kthemaster1999 Жыл бұрын

@@fnhatic6694 no

@DevinMacGregor Жыл бұрын

That is the thing, they get portrayed as all hippy tree hungers or brutal savages that ate each other when they simply were still living in the stone age humans who had both good and bad qualities. Natives were dicks to each other like Europeans were dicks to one another.

@pressftopayrespects6325 Жыл бұрын

@@fnhatic6694 “undisputedly,” Europeans literally mentioned that Native American technology and science then was on par with theirs and they even had certain habits Europe lacked, wtf are you talking about? No investigation, no right to speak.

@AncientAmericas Жыл бұрын

"World History vs. Prehistory." Nailed it.

@Waldzkrieger Жыл бұрын

In my college history courses, it's always been referred to as "Precolumbian" history which also seems pretty... broad lol

@Numba003 Жыл бұрын

Hey! I enjoy your channel too! God bless! ✝️ :)

@kokorochacarero8003 Жыл бұрын

It's so weird. In my particular corner of the world it's known as precolumbian or precolonization Prehistory reffers to the period before the invention of the first writing systems. The US reserving that term for the time period preceding specificaly its own inception is so stereotypically in-character it's just perfect

@IkeOkerekeNews Жыл бұрын

@@kokorochacarero8003 Nobody has ever referred to events before the inception of the United States as "prehistory" in the US.

@kokorochacarero8003 Жыл бұрын

@@IkeOkerekeNewsthanks for letting me know I must've misheard something during that part of the video

@GaryRPeters Жыл бұрын

This is such a great presentation! As a Massachusetts native, as well as member of the Wampanoag tribe, this lines up with much of what my grandfather and uncles always taught me, in addition to the more-in-depth reading I've done on my own. Had I not grown up in the family I did, I certainly wouldn't have stumbled upon King Philip's War until well into adulthood, as no history teacher of mine ever mentioned it. This is great info, and I will definitely share it with people. ...one side note, and I reluctantly mention it only in the spirit of "knowing better," but you brought up the Salem Witch Trials as a cause for the fall of the Puritan movement in New England. In that brief reference, you mentioned that innocent women were burned at the stake. However, nobody in Salem, or any anywhere in North America, was ever burned at the stake for being found guilty of witchcraft, though it had been common practice in Europe. Here, the standard execution was hanging, with the exception of one Giles Corey, who was pressed to death in an attempt to force him to enter a plea. So still barbaric, but no burnings.

@metroplexprime9901 Жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, Giles Corey didn't die of being crushed, he died of dehydration.

@DahVoozel Жыл бұрын

Hung and then thrown in the Witch Pit to rot. There's a Walgreens in the approximate area now.

@GaryRPeters Жыл бұрын

@@metroplexprime9901 I'd never heard that, but it's plausible and probably true. Despite what pressing a person entails, surprisingly, as I understand, it wasn't a quick death.

@GaryRPeters Жыл бұрын

@@DahVoozel The staff at that Walgreens must have at least one good ghost story!

@jalight27 Жыл бұрын

Quality reply. Love when someone takes the time. You're a hero in my book 👍

@Flumpadorus Жыл бұрын

As a social studies teacher, I thank you for these videos. They are a treasure trove of material that allows me to better educate my students, while at the same time, raising the bar of how history is taught to young people.

@jpotter2086 Жыл бұрын

... and in many states, will get you unemployed, and in this one, arrested!

@SpeakerWiggin49 Жыл бұрын

It's certainly best to teach them that people 400 years ago - including American Indians - were striving for power just as much as people in modern society.

@carlatate7678 Жыл бұрын

What would happen to your job if you showed this to a high school history class?

@miyagifatghost2684 Жыл бұрын

Stop lying to your students Quit your job! Imagine growing up to be forced to tell kids lies as an occupation

@willkettle3959 Жыл бұрын

@@miyagifatghost2684 are you upset that kids are learning uncomfortable truths rather than comforting lies?

@wanderinghistorian Жыл бұрын

Shout out to the Witchfinder General for being so gracious as to voice the Pilgrims for us!

@robertnett9793 Жыл бұрын

Thou shouldn't 'shout out' but pray that GOD may have mercy on your wretched soul!

@brazzb761 Жыл бұрын

Excuse me what

@warlordofbritannia Жыл бұрын

@@brazzb761 By God’s blood, know ye not the True Gospel as spake by the VVitchfinder General of Massachusetts Baye Colonye?

@biglootums5243 Жыл бұрын

I'd call him a king if I didn't think he'd take offense

@FPSIreland2 Жыл бұрын

@@warlordofbritannia He shall be delivered forthwith to the magistrates of the shire in which he dwells, and if found guilty of this witcherie and heathenrie, he shall be put to instant death!

@BlastedRodent Жыл бұрын

As a European, it’s fascinating on multiple levels to learn not just what American history education omits, but what it teaches in the first place. Definitely makes me question the narrative I was taught in school, which, while different, was certainly just as faulty. (For the record, I was taught a history of Denmark as a small and innocent country that kept to itself since the viking age, not the regional great power and colonial oppressor it actually was for much of its history.)

@timothymclean Жыл бұрын

Vague as the concept of "Denmark" as a political entity was during the days when kings were more influential than countries.

@timothymclean Жыл бұрын

@@SirBlackReeds It's pretty true, though. I mean, you can quibble over which parts of Scandinavian history should be allocated to what modern institutions, but the Norse absolutely colonized and oppressed a lot of North Sea islands over their history, from Great Britain to Iceland. Arguably to Greenland and Newfoundland, though those efforts weren't as successful at dominating the locals.

@Yuhyuhmuhmuh Жыл бұрын

@@SirBlackReeds Denmark own ports in west Africa and India but also participated in the slave trade. It also had islands in the Caribbean that were used for plantations. The reason you haven't heard of this is because it's empire was tiny and the modern Dane gov would prefer people to forget it

@kenhart8771 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, don’t know how old you’re and where you when to school. Sure you didn’t learn in Denmark that the Berbers from North Africa enslaved Danish citizens on Iceland did you?

@Jiji-the-cat5425 Жыл бұрын

The way we think of colonialism too differs from the reality of it. _Most_ people associate colonialism with the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries. Many people often forget colonialism was in full swing even during the Cold War. Some colonies lasted up until the 1970's and early 80's as well.

@allieren Жыл бұрын

I am a Mayflower descendant (John and Priscilla Alden), and it was only in recent years where I became interested in family history that I began to learn the real history of the colonists. I didn’t realize that the majority of Mayflower passengers weren’t Pilgrims until I learned that John Alden was part of the crew as a cooper, and had originally intended on sailing back to England with the Mayflower, and did further reading from there. The real story is so much more interesting than what I learned in school. Thanks for another great video! Incidentally, I am currently on a work assignment in Salem, MA for several months and hope to take this opportunity to see significant locations and learn more.

@Gerishnakov Жыл бұрын

You know there are about 35 million Mayflower descendents right?

@BlueTyphoon2017 Жыл бұрын

@@Gerishnakov wait, seriously? Or is this a joke because everyone claims that?

@Gerishnakov Жыл бұрын

@@BlueTyphoon2017 Yep, that's just how genes work. Give them 400 years and they spread pretty fast.

@hunterh4064 Жыл бұрын

@@BlueTyphoon2017it's was hundreds of years ago, with every generation the number of descendants increases by a factor, and there was over a hundred people on the boat

@kennyl4699 Жыл бұрын

@@Gerishnakov Still cool to know that about yourself though.

@johnathonmerrow3803 Жыл бұрын

KB, I know you've stated you used to be a teacher... but to be honest, you still are. Keep your passion alive friend. Great work.

@PGGraham Жыл бұрын

I just saw the part about the errors and omissions in history education, and I just had to comment. I only had one teacher teach me, and he was constantly in trouble with the school system. He didn't care, he just wanted to teach us the truth. Every other history teacher just taught us the sanitized lie. Thank you for teaching the truth.

@kennethkho7165 Жыл бұрын

What state and year did your teacher teach that?

@simplethings3730 Жыл бұрын

@kennethkho7165 In my case, Texas and around the 1970's. Edit for clarification: I never received the actual history of the Mayflower while I was in school. I read the book Mayflower by Nathaniel Philbrick about 5 years ago, which got me interested in the subject.

@kennethkho7165 Жыл бұрын

@@simplethings3730 your teacher taught the actual history in 1970 TEXAS? you're really lucky indeed

@gelinrefira Жыл бұрын

What you don't teach is sometimes as important as what you teach in school. I just find it amusing that America which pride itself as some bastion of free speech is as insidious as any entity that craft a convenient narrative to legitimatize its authority. If this series of video by KB shows, it is that double standards and hypocrisy are the real defining characteristic of the American civilization.

@namenloss730 Жыл бұрын

the thing is, "teachers teaching actual history instead of the sanitized lie" is a pretty slippery slope. in this case he may have taught more accurate version of events, but what if your teacher is a believer in graham cock's theories of ancient civilizations, or in some of the crazy nazi conspiracy theories, is it okay for them to go off the official program and teach "the truth" as they see it? i had a teacher teach us that dresden bombing was a revenge by the allies on a purely civilian target that killed hundreds of thousands of people. She was teaching the truth! Too bad that truth was soviet recycled nazi propaganda and had nothing to do with reality.

@bryanvasquez5236 Жыл бұрын

Every time Knowing Better makes a new video I have to drop everything I’m doing and watch it

@STAROMEGA54 Жыл бұрын

same

@charliebrenton4421 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. We have the priorities! This man is a national treasure!

@CortexNewsService Жыл бұрын

Yep

@retrokilroy2506 Жыл бұрын

correct, lol

@naomi0connor Жыл бұрын

same!! Seriously my favorite channel

@Yesnomu Жыл бұрын

All these videos are so brutal at deconstructing the myths I was taught in school, and I really appreciate it. Thanks for being one of the most educational channels on youtube!

@connor3284 Жыл бұрын

Perhaps you should ask yourself why such people have such an interest in deconstructing your cultural myths and conception of itself.

@charlesroberts6462 Жыл бұрын

@@connor3284 Yeah, his motivation to help his audience with knowing better is really hard to pin down.

@mathetesolei7961 Жыл бұрын

@@charlesroberts6462 If the original one can be deconstructed, can't KB's be deconstructed as well?

@jeffreygao3956 9 ай бұрын

@@connor3284 Tradition is a meaningless word! They're nothing more than an attempt to just stick with a regressive past and refuse to move on.

@connor3284 9 ай бұрын

@@jeffreygao3956 Your ideology of "progress" against a "regressive" past, like Maoism and Stalinism, will kill millions once more if given the chance.

@fe3bal Жыл бұрын

As a Brit, I only learned Thanksgiving holiday through TV and film. Your series on the founding of US is not only engrossing but also incredibly insightful. History is written by the winners. And 'stories' are always a more interesting reason for traditions being created.

@MrHat. Жыл бұрын

History isnt written by the winners

@lhistorienchipoteur9968 Жыл бұрын

History isn’t *always written by the winners.

@jujutrini8412 Жыл бұрын

I was taught the same version as this video in my British Catholic Convent high school!

@jeffreygao3956 11 ай бұрын

But...William Wallace's side of the story is better known and he didn't win the war.

@indiana47 10 ай бұрын

@@MrHat. Case and point the lost cause myth.

@TheBrickMasterB Жыл бұрын

Seeing KB have an existential crisis because The Simpsons and PragerU were more accurate than official curriculums is just.... perfection.

@middleagebrotips3454 Жыл бұрын

A broken clock is accurate twice a day. 1:05:40 you probably didn't finish the video.

@TheBrickMasterB Жыл бұрын

@@middleagebrotips3454 yeah, I commented that early in the video, I was mainly pointing at the comedic value of it.

@therealwattambor8347 Жыл бұрын

Many of the original (and some of the newer ones) producers and showrunners of The Simpsons were incredibly gifted and intelligent. The reason why the show has so many "predictions" is because their comedy is so intelligent that it predicts the American culture and media market on accident.

@stevedgrossman Жыл бұрын

Prager "U" is pure right wing BS.

@TheBrickMasterB Жыл бұрын

@@stevedgrossman It is, thanks for reminding us!

@caseyleenb Жыл бұрын

i'm from cape cod, and the joke about cape cod being used as a vacation home even before europeans is the funniest thing i've ever heard

@tadesubaru1383 Жыл бұрын

As a non USian who's obviously never learnt any of this in School or any other educational context, it's always so fascinating to me

@kamilareeder1493 6 ай бұрын

Yes thanks for learning about native American people ^^ I'm a different group of people than discussed in the video, but the rest of the world often forgets us. During the Irish potato famine, the American Indian council sent financial aid 😮 During the Ebola crisis, many tribes came together and sent a team of doctors and staff to Africa to help. We are basically like a bunch of small kingdoms, im glad people in other countries know some of our history and plight

@Sidecutter Жыл бұрын

You do something very few of my teachers ever managed, 20+ years ago. There were a few who were truly passionate, but not many. But you do what the best of them did, especially for someone like me with ADHD. You take the facts, you tell us what actually happened versus what we learned, but most importantly, you tell it as a story, and you make it interesting, and easy to watch and learn. Also delighted to see you working with Atun-Shei! He's also terrific, as is the newcomer Milo/Miniminuteman

@angrybirdsandwich2334 Жыл бұрын

KB is definitely one of the best social studies and political teacher on KZfaq

@log2406 Жыл бұрын

I cannot believe there's another KB video within two months of the last one. AND it's over an hour long. Amazing

@quetzalthegamer Жыл бұрын

Not surprising when there's so much overlap in terms of topics.

@Carlosgzz93 Жыл бұрын

As a non USaian im surprised to learn all of this stuff cause in Mexico we do learn about american history you know being neighbors an all, and never knew the country was not funded by pilgrims. We pretty much learn the same stories with all their biases and couldnt know better without you dude, great job on this documentary.

@jujutrini8412 Жыл бұрын

Mexican history is fascinating.

@ThatBum42 Жыл бұрын

Per that one scene from King of the Hill: "Hey, do your people [Indians] even celebrate Thanksgiving? "We did. Once."

@literalantifaterrorist4673 Жыл бұрын

been watching you since middle school and now i’m about to graduate, thanks for teaching me real history my teachers didn’t.

@LucasS6 Жыл бұрын

He used to make a lot of sense, now he's just Breitbart from the left

@jeanvaljean341 Жыл бұрын

Judging by your name, KB taught you to be a Marxist?

@timh5413 Жыл бұрын

@@jeanvaljean341 not all antifascists are marxists lad

@Azafell Жыл бұрын

@@jeanvaljean341 black and red are the colors of anarchism,not marxism.

@Azafell Жыл бұрын

@@LucasS6 nah, he's just more well-read now : )

@sethrojango5672 Жыл бұрын

Sir, you have been one of my favorite KZfaqrs for years now. When I discovered your content I think I was squarely in the alt-right pipeline. Your voice was one of the strongest that combated that hateful rhetoric and helped me think more critically and deal with my own personal insecurities. I am currently in University and I have discussed both ideas and books you have mentioned with professors; it has opened doors to new learning opportunities for me that I never could have imagined. Thank you for expanding my knowledge and helping me become a better person as a whole.

@sethrojango5672 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for opening my eyes to the lies. Before I trusted every "fact" that was given to me. Now I know that before I can talk intelligently on any subject, hours and hours and hours of research, reading, and refinement are needed.

@K3end0 7 ай бұрын

I might me late, but Knowing Better was also one of my "get out" KZfaqrs. It feels like years ago, but his centrist perspective really helped me learn...well...how to take a perspective on things.

@EddieKyteABCDEFG12345678910 7 ай бұрын

In the year 1620, Thomas Jefferson saw a turkey about to be stuffed and eaten, so he made up a law that said: “Turkeys are not to be eaten, they’re our friends”. So the people set the turkeys free into the wild. Later, people created the first Thanksgiving with pizza, sandwiches and every kind of dessert you could imagine.

@jeffreygao3956 2 ай бұрын

…what?

@EddieKyteABCDEFG12345678910 2 ай бұрын

@@jeffreygao3956 You're right, the pilgrims didn't eat pizza during Thanksgiving.

@S1apShoes Жыл бұрын

The fact that I didn't know about King Philip's War and the eradication of the native tribes in that area until 2020 when I was 30, is a damn travesty. Hell I never learned anything about early American history until 2020 when lockdowns happened and Atun-Shei's channel blew up. It was always the same standard myth: Jamestown, Pilgrims at Plymouth, and then 1776. Never mind the 150 year gap there; nothing to see here, folks!

@marry46066 Жыл бұрын

The man himself

@douglasdea637 Жыл бұрын

Depends on where you live. I was born and raised in Massachusetts. So this is all local history. I learned early about Plymouth and Boston and King Phillip's War. I also happen to be an amateur genealogist and my tree includes Mayflower passengers and people from those other early ships. You can learn a lot by studying that stuff.

@kered13 Жыл бұрын

I was taught about King Phillip's War in two different years of grade school.

@tophatgaming1873 Жыл бұрын

didn't think s1apshoes of all people would be here but okay

@AztlanViva Жыл бұрын

I'm a retired middle school/high school teacher. I'll bet my eyeteeth it was probably taught in your history class, but you were the kid that slept in class everyday.

@williamhamilton1154 Жыл бұрын

This man says things that make me deeply uncomfortable about my world view. And yet I feel like he’s doing me huge favour every time he does.

@gorillaguerillaDK Жыл бұрын

Cognitive dissonance - but luckily you’re the kind of person who decides to correct your misconceptions instead of doubling down, please do what you can to keep hat ability, and if it’s possible, teach others to do it as well - it’s so important and makes you an awesome individual!

@haidengeary8277 Жыл бұрын

Yes, enjoy feeling guilty for shit you had nothing to do with.

@gorillaguerillaDK Жыл бұрын

@@haidengeary8277 Why feel guilty?

@jacksonfitzsimmons4253 Жыл бұрын

You’re here for your pat on the back? Don’t worry, you’re one of the good white people

@rustomkanishka Жыл бұрын

A part of growing up means you have to decide for yourself to keep or discard things that were taught to you as a kid. Reevaluate the stories based on evidence. This is good.

@chuichinagumo7145 Жыл бұрын

As a resident of plymouth MA, I was silently praying you’d do this video for a while. It’s quite interesting to learn the history behind the names of many of the streets, natural landmarks (ie rivers, lakes, beaches), and local businesses of the town.

@itsyaboi1245 7 ай бұрын

I moved to the US and grew up in massachusetts since 2007 and thanksgiving and american pilgrim history was taught EXACTLY like this video even down to the kings philip war. Im wondering if it was the same for you?

@kjw6383 6 ай бұрын

The first thing at Plymouth before the rest of the travelers got off the ship, the landing party dug up and robbed a GRAVE to get the things and corn buried with the deceased. No joke. First indigenous grave robbed 1620

@jeffreygao3956 4 ай бұрын

To be fair, a better idea would be waiting until winter of the next year.

@leer6871 Жыл бұрын

It’s good being in the comment section early because you get to see everyone who has positive things to say about this dude’s commitment to his job. Seriously, he’s probably one of favorite KZfaqrs period and one of the few I can say I watched as they got better and better at what they do

@Giantkiller130-t Жыл бұрын

You’re so right. I normally try not to read the comments because by the time I get there, people are acting a fool lol

@anidnmeno Жыл бұрын

Knowing Better is the GOAT

@woaddragon Жыл бұрын

I slowly waiting for.thing to become super dark in the commentS, if Indian removal and Neoslavery are anything to go by.

@TheYambo121 Жыл бұрын

I didn't really get any schooling-based education on the story of the pilgrims, being Australian. But pop culture certainly shoved the false narrative at me. I thoroughly enjoyed this video and learning the correct history even if I didn't really learn it much as a kid. Side note, I freaking loved the pronounciation accuracy for the diary entries. I'm a linguist and I loved hearing the strange vowels and consonant clusters that would have been accurate to the English of the time!!

@kateapple1 Жыл бұрын

Isn’t the Internet great sometimes? We can be so specific about our likes and dislikes 😂 it can go terribly wrong too.. but sometimes it’s fun lol

@pablocasas5906 Жыл бұрын

Same here, I do not live in the U.S. but as a child I watched tons of cartoons made in the U.S and many of them had Thanksgiving specials. Sometimes it felt I learned more about U.S. history (or just a romanticized version of it) than my own country's history

@aaronmarks9366 Жыл бұрын

Also a linguist here, and was looking for this comment. Phenomenal to hear those entries in accurate Early Modern English!

@timothymclean Жыл бұрын

It's a neat detail that reinforces the distance between the Pilgrims and modern America (a notable theme of the video).

@lilith1544 Жыл бұрын

Atun-Shei's OP voiceovers are always a delight

@redumptious2544 Жыл бұрын

I find it so important that you highlight the connectedness of Shakespeare and the Pilgrims. Not because of those specifically but because I find it very odd and sad to be honest that school is structured in such a seperated way. It not only seems like a less interesting way to me but I also think we are missing out on something much better from a learning perspective. Because if you would learn about stuff from multiple angles (discussed in their respective "themed" classes) you also remember those things in a connected manner. And I might be wrong but I think it has actually been shown, that interconnected information is saved much, much better in the brain than seperate pieces of it.

@Ellimist000 6 ай бұрын

And several things about the myth are downright strange. Why say they named Plymouth if John Smith did, for example? Why call the "Merchant Adventures" " the Strangers"?

@jeffreygao3956 4 ай бұрын

I would have also been fine with pointing out Tokugawa Ieyasu died in 1616.

@Gerishnakov Жыл бұрын

John Smith: "What a fine village you have here, natives. What do you call it?" Native Americans: "Patuxet" Smith: "Grand. I shall call it Plymouth!" #englishlogic

@GumSkyloard 19 күн бұрын

To be fair, it's just human nature, not strictly "english logic". We don't call China "Zhongguo", for example.

@1Kaisermerlin 3 күн бұрын

@@GumSkyloardPlymouth is a city in england. So they named it after that.

@DiannaCarney Жыл бұрын

I live in Plymouth County and was taught all the wrong things growing up. Recently, I’ve become obsessed with learning about Native American culture, back when America was called Turtle Island! From beautifully carved stone faces throughout the New England woodlands to stone chambers and cairns long forgotten, once you know what to look for, a simple walk in the woods becomes an exploration through pre-history!

@gorillaguerillaDK Жыл бұрын

Sounds absolutely awesome - "mind-time-travel" while getting fresh air!

@Hooibeest2D Жыл бұрын

Look into the Dutch past of the United States and the influence the Dutch culture had on American culture and the forming of the country. The Dutch ment wat more for the USA than some pelgrims!

@hydrogen3266 Жыл бұрын

I’m from Bristol county! I remember going to the “Plimouth Plantation” (it’s not called that anymore) on field trips, and for thanksgiving we dressed up like native Americans a few times. I’m now being exposed to the true history that isn’t fully propaganda, and I find Native American culture and history very fascinating, but honestly tragic because of the way they were so terribly treated by the colonists

@winterinbloom Жыл бұрын

We're Turtle Island?! I like it.

@stacks8242 Жыл бұрын

“all wrong things” no you just were taught our side instead of the side of the losers.

@mikearndt8210 Жыл бұрын

little correction i have for you (because it was my area of study in college). at 10:00 in the video, martin luther almost certainly did not nail the 95 theses to a church door. the first story of that that we have is from around 1600. most historians agree he simply published his theses and distributed them

@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023 Жыл бұрын

As a European lapsed Lutheran, who used to have a thing for ecclesiastical history, I can confirm that the nailing of the theses is a myth.

@gorillaguerillaDK Жыл бұрын

Absolutely true, but the other version is just more "dramatic"

@ribbitfrog Жыл бұрын

Where do you think you are, at a channel that busts history myths?

@sdanks8497 Жыл бұрын

@@ribbitfrog lol almost precisely

@SonofSethoitae Жыл бұрын

I thought the nailing of points of debate to church doors was somewhat common at the time? Is that not so?

@AndreDutraTV Жыл бұрын

I spend hours and hours on my own videos and they’re only usually 10-15 minutes. The amount of effort and attention to detail on every video you do is crazy! Would love to see you tackle the Vietnam War something, especially since you’re a veteran.

@carlsoll Жыл бұрын

This is incredible! Thanks Knowing Better! 😄 That’s insane how many people died that 1st Winter. Loved every minute of this!

@artydomi2466 Жыл бұрын

KB you inspired me to switch up my teaching style with my 7th graders. Focused so much on Jamestown and even had my students do a project examining the legacies of Jamestown. (Importance of Business in America, Beginning of Representation Government, Origins and Effects of Slavery, and the Spirit of Opportunity and Sacrifice) They had to draw real world connections between the past and the present in a poster presentation.

@shotelco Жыл бұрын

You're going to be fired for teaching facts 🔇

@gorillaguerillaDK Жыл бұрын

Awesome, hope you don’t get fired!

@anonsenforducks Жыл бұрын

Man, I wish I had history teachers like you. That sounds awesome!

@UserName_no1 Жыл бұрын

It all starts with where your school district chooses to purchase it's text books.

@jordanscott8854 Жыл бұрын

I thought your aside on Shakespeare was really interesting! Why don’t we teach more historical subjects in parallel? Like why isn’t music history or literature taught in tandem with your broader history class? It would give students better context for what’s going on in all of those classes

@kered13 Жыл бұрын

Because it would severely restrict the material that could be covered in literature or music classes. And usually those classes are organized along completely different lines, so they just wouldn't fit together well. For all the criticism that "memorizing dates" gets, much of it rightfully so, the merit is that knowing when important events happened allows you to easily compare them to other events that you will inevitably learn about in a different context some other day. So if you know that Jamestown was founded in 1607, and you know that Shakespeare was active in the late 16th and early 17th centuries, then you just naturally understand that Shakespeare was alive when Jamestown was founded.

@Gerishnakov Жыл бұрын

@@kered13 There is also the fact there is still a bias in school taught history in favour of "great people", "great events", and "great nations". In truth, why shouldn't we also get taught the history of literature or music, as well as the history of kings and revolutions?

@Redtear Жыл бұрын

@@kered13 No. It makes a difference in classes to spend a few minutes here and there to reference context. The bigger picture. In fifth grade it would make a huge difference to just say, "Later we will learn about one of the most debated 'best writers of all time' He was alive writing plays in England." Kids who care then can come up to the teacher and ask them to clarify. Then the teacher can lead smart students down research rabbit holes. Just as any good teacher has ever done. (I personally think Bertold Brecht is a far superior writer and actual hero.) Not only that, spend an entire day in fifth grade just makes notes of what was happening around the world in this moment. This would be massively helpful. On the flip side while in college learning about William. To spend time talking about what is happening around the world matters. Not only because he was devoted to sucking up to Elizabeth and this directly affected what he wrote and how he wrote. It matters while studying in-depth translations of the Bards writings. Spending months in advanced college courses on him while not spending time putting in relation what was happening globally (irony with the name of his theatre) is negligent teaching. kered13, not to come off as combative. KB does have a great point.

@jeffreygao3956 7 ай бұрын

Tokugawa Ieyasu died in 1616 too.

@lars573 Жыл бұрын

Thanksgiving isn't even exclusively a US holiday. Canada celebrates Thanksgiving as well. And has annually since 1879. The date also wasn't fixed, but was usually in October. And was often specifically a harvest feast. Until 1957 when it was fixed as the second Monday in October.

@1Kaisermerlin 3 күн бұрын

Europe has alot of variances on this as well. Some germans celebrate "Erntedankfest" harvest thanks festival. But as the video explains it is just a general celebration that solidified into a more specific national holiday.

@therealwattambor8347 Жыл бұрын

You say this KZfaq Channel is your "atonement" in your spread of false curriculum, but this was something you almost HAD to teach. My father was a history/social studies teacher before he became a principal. He knew a lot of the curriculum was not accurate, but per Virginia SOL standards, he had to teach him. A great example of an inaccurate SOL lesson was that the south succeeded happened due to, get this, "states rights," which has been highly inaccurate for years. If my father did not teach things like this, he was at a risk of losing his job. In other words, Virginia DoE failed years and years of students and their own mission by teaching children an American fairytale. This is, of course, why things like CRT are met with such adamant disdain: They genuinely believe these misconstrued recounts of history while wanting to remain naïve about the US being an almost perfect country. These videos are incredible. Keep doing such an awesome job!

@jeffreygao3956 3 ай бұрын

So how do we solve that problem without a military coup?

@TheOneWh0Knocks Жыл бұрын

It feels almost criminal to be this early in the comments section. Your video contents are probably some of the most thoroughly researched ones throughout the entire platform. Thank you, and up the good work.

@SheilaTheGrate Жыл бұрын

It dropped at 10pm ET. Give us a great on the east coast, I was about to go to bed. lol

@commandervex1626 Жыл бұрын

You know that Anakin Skywalker quote from the Clone Wars is becoming more relevant with each upload: "How many other lies have I been told by the Council?"

@Albtraum_TDDC Жыл бұрын

LOL Revolution is coming

@Hyndergogen9 Жыл бұрын

Fun fact I heard from Historian William Dalrymple: The Mayflower had been rejected by the founders of the East India Company when they were looking for a ship to sail to Indonesia, because they figured it wasn't sea-worthy

@TheJulior1983 Жыл бұрын

Makes me so happy when some of my favorite channels collaborate.

@caitlinquinn79 Жыл бұрын

Would you and Max of Tasting History collab? I love how you often educate on similar things, particularly enjoyed watching his Thanksgiving videos alongside yours, but with different approaches. Like a devil and angel on the shoulder vibe ;) There are so many interesting topics around American history and misconceptions you could both bring your own strengths to. I watch you both and keep thinking it, no pressure! Hope you're having a good day :)

@Pollicina_db 10 ай бұрын

Oh god that would be a dream collab to me

@Slavicsparrow1775 Жыл бұрын

The quality of this channel has grown exponentially over such a small period of time to the point it's an indispensable part of history KZfaq

@toddu2342 Жыл бұрын

I have watched this 6 times in the 5 minutes that it has been posted, and it is the most enlightening, entertaining, and enthusiastic content I have ever seen. 10/10 instant classic

@miniiore Жыл бұрын

I love time freeze

@topphatt1312 Жыл бұрын

@@miniiore Ikr very helpful.

@Pokemaster-wg9gx Жыл бұрын

Suspicious how this was literally posted the exact same fucking minute as the video was lel

@soccerandtrack10 Жыл бұрын

🥺🥺🥺🥺like orchata?...

@soccerandtrack10 Жыл бұрын

@@miniiore advanced warfare doesn't.

@matheusGMN Жыл бұрын

I love that PragerU finally hit the "even a broken clock is right twice a day" and managed to do a video which was largely right lol

@jeffreygao3956 3 ай бұрын

Now if only they would quit making such BS and make sure EVERYTHING they make is right.

@billy101cat Жыл бұрын

I really like the context of what was happening on both sides of the atlantic, helps put the 2 stories together

@alexandercolefield9523 Жыл бұрын

The connection to the pilgrims voyage and the 30 years war was a galaxy brain moment

@FloridatedH2O Жыл бұрын

It's humbling and embarrassing to remember that back in grade school I thought I was "enlightened" on American History because I was taught by a closet hippy social studies teacher in a liberal seattle suburb and because I had read "A People's History of American Empire". There was so much I still didn't know, and even 15 years later, I'm still learning so much. Never stop being curious

@sageschroeder Жыл бұрын

Good old Howard Zinn. Definitely a cut above a large portion of (American) historical nonfiction, and not a bad place to start. His books don’t have every detail possible, but anyone reading his stuff will be far better off then most American schools will teach about our history. It’s scary how much we can simplify our history and have it still be generally accepted when it’s so obviously lacking.

@profoundpronoun4712 Жыл бұрын

Dude, seriously, best video yet. Keep up the great work and thank you for it! I’m thankful for creators like you KB. And I wish you a very happy and successful new year! 🎉

@mr.mrs.d.7015 Жыл бұрын

I am so thrilled that you had the passages read in the accurate OP (original pronunciacion) of English. Thank you!

@jollyjohnthepirate3168 Жыл бұрын

I love how Atun-Shei voices the puritans.

@MikkoKalavainen Жыл бұрын

As a Finnish dude, I have pretty much zero interest in these Thanksgiving and Indian-themes. And yet I’ve just watched another hour of you teaching about them. Ain’t no way I’d miss one of these videos. That means you’ve done a seriously good job! Thanks again for that, and thanks for inspiring me to subscribe to another year of Nebula and Curiosity! (Not enough references to Starship Troopers in this one though)

@allancarey2604 Жыл бұрын

It’s interesting to notice the parallels between your pilgrim myth & Australias 1st fleet myths…while ours (being an Australian) don’t have the same religious or manifest destiny overlays, it does/has evolved to a similar rhythm…makes me want to compare it to others.

@TheAgore47 Жыл бұрын

I'd like to see that as a subject in a video like these.

@eliyahubenysrael6272 Жыл бұрын

This channel is a goldmine of historical information!

@subtlegong2817 Жыл бұрын

I didn’t have any teachers directly teach me any of this, but I had a few direct me to the books in the library that would help me learn myself. They didn’t want to make waves helping a curious teenager learn more than the curriculum, but they still encouraged it as much as they could

@-epistemus Жыл бұрын

10 minutes of your videos teach me more than over 16 years of school and college classes. Thank you for what you do.

@namenloss730 Жыл бұрын

this is so incredibly sad because his videos are very in depth and well researched, but they concern blips in history.

@DarthVader1977 Жыл бұрын

@@namenloss730 It's liberal propaganda.

@namenloss730 Жыл бұрын

@@DarthVader1977 yes of course, you are obviously right, you big brain you!

@Albtraum_TDDC Жыл бұрын

@@namenloss730 whose videos?

@namenloss730 Жыл бұрын

@@Albtraum_TDDC do you understand the notion of "context"? maybe pay attention to the channel this comment is on, or something subtle like that

@Ugly_German_Truths Жыл бұрын

I didn't even realize that all those videos had a connecting thread. Good job! And it was an impressive story you laid out before us. I hope you can keep up this level of dedication and detail for another year and look forward to what you will pick next.

@thomasvandevelde8157 Жыл бұрын

It's kind of strange to see you going on this trip. I mean in my West-European history book in school, the Reformation Period begins with, indeed, Guthenberg's discovery of moveable type! This is seen as the kickstarter of the Renaissance, the Scientific Revolution and last but not least: the Reformation and all the consequences that came with it. I mean, we're still digging up mass-graves from the Thirty Years War here! In scale and scope of casualties (above all civilizations) it was quite literally a world war. I mean, we literally have the first accounts of suicide-bombers during this period in the Low Countries! But I still remember in school, the question was asked about why the Americans have the image they have of themselves, since to us it seemed sheer lunacy at times. This was the period of Iraq I and II, Afghanistan and 9/11. And than it came forward, in a debate, that there's such a thing as "American History". First time I ever heard of that. Something that no longer exists here, because all these exceptionalist ideas are what brought us the Thirty Years War, the 1st and 2nd World Wars, and every bloodbath in between. Ironically, these ideas of Western "Civilization Projects" started at about the same time the Reformation began. You can almost see the splitting line between how Americans view themselves, and how Europeans viewed themselves. But anyways, I never tought it was this determining in how a nation's policy was decided, but guess I was wrong there! It all starts making a lot more sense! Anyways, keep up the good work I'd say. Gonna continue watching, enjoying this series! Regards, Thomas

@taddytass4318 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Thomas. I TOTALLY agree with your take. It's to bad that more Americans don't understand. That when their ancestors left the places where they were from, that they brought their History with them and with all that it initials.

@thomasvandevelde8157 Жыл бұрын

@@taddytass4318 Thank you! The United States was founded a bit in protest of what Europe had become, that much is clear. I grew up on what literally was the backyard of the Protestant-Catholic battlefield during the Reformation. And it's ironic how many American quarters and towns carry names of villages, cities and quarters here. In fact, in my old hometown, the last warriors to leave to fight in the New World, left in the mid 19th century as volunteers to fight for the Catholic Monarchy of Mexico. We had a marketplace named after the Battle of Tacambaro, where these volunteers died fighting Mexican republicans. So this proces took a very long time, and wasn't complete overnight. In fact, it would take until the Civil War for the USA to become the USA I'd say. Before that the US had more in common with the old Feudal order, with it's city levies and armies raised by an upper nobility and the endless fights between nobility and central state, than it had in common with the modern nation-state called "America". Ofcourse Europe's monarchs didn't learn their lessons, and it would take 80 years of totalitarian violence before the leadership here accepted the concepts of Liberty and Democracy. This is just my opinion, not saying this is the perfect analysis. History's study essence lies in the debate around it. And I'm not the only one who noticed this back-forth influencing that Europe and America had on eachother over the centuries, so it's not a novel idea either! This is the main reason I view channels like this one, precisely because I want to see how Americans view themselves, and how they tackle the debate of their own history. And I learned one thing that I am sure about by now: people evolve very slowly, we like to claim we're completely different from those Medieval brutes for example, but at the same time we're happy to say modern democracy was born in the Medieval Era. So just like always, it's a very gray story :-) And we've got a lot in common with eachother! Regardless of location and age we're in.

@Leo99929 Жыл бұрын

"Free-est country in the world" where it has one of the highest incarceration rates on the planet 😂

@jeffreygao3956 3 ай бұрын

I find the Kingdom of the North more free.

@nararabbit1 Жыл бұрын

it’s been really fun watching this video come together on the discord. Great job KB, it’s obvious that you are always working to improve and develop your style with each new video.

@Elainaj1201 Жыл бұрын

There’s a KB discord? Sounds awesome!? Is it patron only? That would make sense, but I’m too poor to participate 😅 It’s probably worth it, but my rent doesn’t agree with that sentiment 😅😂😭

@nararabbit1 Жыл бұрын

@@Elainaj1201Yes, it’s a patreon benefit but it’s inexpensive for discord access, like $2 or $21 ish for a year.

@Elainaj1201 Жыл бұрын

Ah, nvm just got to 20:30 😅 I sometimes read the comments before I finish videos, and it’s showing here. Your comment definitely made me want to know more about the Discord. And I got overly excited 😅 Anyways Happy New Years 🎉

@nararabbit1 Жыл бұрын

@@Elainaj1201You too!! Come join us if you can :-)

@Elainaj1201 Жыл бұрын

@@nararabbit1 Thanks for the response, I’ll definitely check the patron prices out, but when I say poor, I really mean poor and $3 a month would personally be too much for me at this juncture coming out of the Holidays.😅 I digress, but all that to say inflation is crazy, and hopefully I’ll join the Discord soon! 😊

@Helsingvania Жыл бұрын

Hey man, I wanna thank you for your video upload schedule as I have something to listen to every time I have competition

@mmmtastehify Жыл бұрын

30 seconds in and good for you my guy for producing such quality content in such an aggressively short period of time! The internet is a better place because of it

@zachmiller9175 Жыл бұрын

Within a few minutes of starting this video I was thinking "how cool would this be with the witchmaster general?" Then there he was, ready to deliver me to the magistrate of the shire in which I dwell for the sin of giving gifts on heathens "christmas"

@jeffreygao3956 2 ай бұрын

Now Billy Yank needs his help-again!

@MatheusCarvalho-tz6yz Жыл бұрын

The strange part of this is that here on Brazil, we actually learn about the history of the jamestown colony and the start of colonization in North América, and the pilgrims are a separate thing that ARE only explained in college, great video.

@gormanls Жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to make this. Blowing my mind.

@teejay3250 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for giving a damn enough to research, script and properly present this information. Your dedication to teaching history isn't lost on us.

@cinnanyan Жыл бұрын

An interesting missing piece to this story is that Canadian Thanksgiving has an origin myth that goes back even earlier, but of course it places in the first one in what is now Canada.

@hurricaneofcats Жыл бұрын

Damn now I need someone to make a video on THIS!

@wanderinghistorian Жыл бұрын

I had traced the real story of the Separatists up until the Mayflower but I always wondered how the heck a bunch of refugees managed to pay for trans-atlantic passage when that feat was like going to the Moon. Well now I know, they sold themselves. Thanks KB!

@grungeisdead8998 Жыл бұрын

I always assumed they stole a ship and dipped out the country

@warlordofbritannia Жыл бұрын

Indentured servitude is something I remember learning about in high school, I’m not sure why we don’t bring it up earlier as it’s not that difficult concept

@jasonbelstone3427 Жыл бұрын

Pilgrims waving a sign that says, "Will do *anything* for free passage cash".

@wazzupp1029 Жыл бұрын

Correction: on the first thanksgiving, turkeys went back in time to the first thanksgiving, to take turkey OFF the menu. THATS RIGHT, THEY WENT BACK IN TIME TO THE FIRST THANKSGIVING, TO TAKE TURKEY *OFF*.*THE*.*MENU.*

@jeffreygao3956 3 ай бұрын

What?

@mister_i9245 Жыл бұрын

In Virginia when I was in elementary school we were taught about both Jamestown and Plymouth, but more focus was given to Jamestown. We were also taught about Roanoke Colony, but that was probably a local thing since I'm from Roanoke, Virginia.

@Waldzkrieger Жыл бұрын

I grew up in North Carolina and we spent a lot of time on Jamestown too, but I'd bet we spent WAY more time on Roanoke than any other states' school systems did lol

@user1138 Жыл бұрын

Did you ever see the "In Search of..." Episode about Roanoke? That's how I learned about it as a kid.

@TheSunGamer101 Жыл бұрын

Wasn’t sure I fully believed this would be coming out so quickly when it was teased in the last video

@stevedgrossman Жыл бұрын

This was probably up there as one of the best videos you have done.

@leosorghum6867 Жыл бұрын

It's always funny to me that growing up in Virginia we were taught a lot more about Jamestown, with the Pilgrims being only briefly mentioned, which is apparently the opposite from the rest of the country.

@stephenwright8824 Жыл бұрын

Massachusetts native here. I don't know about the rest of the country but we didn't get as much on the Pilgrims as we probably should have. Neither Roger Williams' breaking away from the main body of Puritans in Boston. I only found out as an adult about a law on the books in Massachusetts that gave anyone who shot a Rhode Islander complete exempttion from prosecution (it was repealed around 1983).

@Pteromandias 6 ай бұрын

You have to understand that school is 78% crowd management and 22% education. In the little bit of time in each class there is to teach something, you have a choice: spend all year teaching the most minute details of a single decade of events, or spend a week teaching a massively compressed and simplified version of it. It also applies to the reach. Where I went to school, we learned very little about Pilgrims but the simplest story, we learned somewhat more about the closer Jamestown, and spent the most time learning about settlements in North Carolina.

@2ndGenBen Жыл бұрын

Standard American History Myth debunked

@FelisImpurrator 11 ай бұрын

Sadly, it's a little less grammatically correct to shuffle into Standard Historical American Myth, i.e., SHAM.

@firstletterofthealphabet7308 Жыл бұрын

It's a good day when an hour plus KB documentary comes out.

@ryanhooper4660 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for putting the effort and making this video!

@happy.lil.hooman Жыл бұрын

As an Indian ( actual the India) ..it heavily encourages me to see my own country's history in a more thorough way ... Thanks KB 🙂.. and as for Thanksgiving I am lucky to not know about the traditional story in the first place.. happy to learn it from you this way.

@jujutrini8412 Жыл бұрын

The history of the Indus Valley civilisation is amazing.

@gendbh5652 11 ай бұрын

Hey I’m Indian too! 👋🏾

@disappointedmess209 Жыл бұрын

A new video already? Its like Christmas all over again

@r.w.bottorff7735 Жыл бұрын

Your PragerU impression was spot on! Thank you for sharing a more accurate portrayal of our history, because you are absolutely right, what we're taught in school basically omits anything unfavorable. I'm trying to make sure I don't miss a thing by educating myself in adulthood and you've definitely been helpful👍

@devoncharleston Жыл бұрын

If I ain’t ever told you, I appreciate every video you post . They are greatly appreciated!

@TheDarthbinky Жыл бұрын

The bit about the Pilgrims fleeing the Thirty Years War... I dunno about that. The writings from Pilgrim leaders at the time show that they were indeed fleeing because they were paranoid about their children adopting Dutch culture, and they were annoyed that the Dutch weren't converting to their religion. And it should be noted that that truce mentioned in the video was part of the 80 Years War, a partly religious-based war where the mostly Protestant Netherlands were trying to gain independence from Catholic Spain. If we include early conflicts like the Hussite Wars, wars between Protestants and Catholics had already been happening for well over a century when the Pilgrims decided to flee to Massachusetts. The video even mentions the war between Spain and England, the one with the Armada. Off the top of my head, there was also the Schmalkadic Wars (the second one ended with the treaty that foreshadowed the Peace of Westphalia), the French wars against the Huguenots, the English Civil War and its aftermath, and the German Peasants Revolt. Like... these wars were pretty common. It wasn't a foregone conclusion that the catastrophic Thirty Years War was about to happen. On a semi-related note, I actually live within spitting distance of where the Cocheco Massacre happened in New Hampshire. Native refugees fleeing the loss in King Philip's War wound up in what's now Dover, NH. Angry Massachusetts settlers came and demanded that the Dover settlers hand over the refugees, and the Dover settlers violated the traditional rules of hospitality, betrayed the natives (basically ran a mock battle and once the natives had fired their guns, arrested them) and turned them over- the refugees were killed or enslaved. Years later, at the start of King William's War (aka the Nine Years War in Europe), the surviving natives came back to Dover with an army and destroyed the town in revenge for the betrayal.

@Jason-hg1pc Жыл бұрын

It's a small world after all it's a small world after all it's a small world after all it's a small small world

@davidmoutard2276 Жыл бұрын

I gotta say I really love the commitment to original pronunciation in reading the passages. Keep up the good work!

@lhistorienchipoteur9968 Жыл бұрын

It was done thanks to Atun shei films, who use it in every of his videos with 17th century document reading.

@goeatsanta5600 7 ай бұрын

ive come to realize that i was really lucky that i went to school in new england. allthough we got some of the standard american myth, it was sprinkled in with a lot more of the truth and stuff that most dont talk about (we talked about people coming to the americans way before even roanoke). but i find it facinating that the standard american myth still managed to creep into the ciriculum despite being our local history and having the most access to the right information. i guess they wanted us to know our history, but not too much

@vxicepickxv Жыл бұрын

I feel like Saint Augustine gets forgotten a lot in American history despite being older than Jamestown.

@jeffreygao3956 6 ай бұрын

New France: First time?

@stonebeard2194 Жыл бұрын

Sadly the best way to fix a twenty year old CRT is to go to the local dump and get one for free. I wish it wasn’t the case but I’ve lived through being electrocuted from a tube amp so take my word for it! Much love!

@julesmasseffectmusic Жыл бұрын

I REMEMBER tv repairmen, he visited us like 4 times for our old tv in the 70s.

@Gerishnakov Жыл бұрын

For a sec there I thought you were making some lame comment about critical race theory 😂

@caseysilkwood47 Жыл бұрын

Love the video, as well as the subject matter. One tiny issue I found: To my knowledge, nobody was burned at the stake during the Salem Witch Trials.

@jacquesmerde4484 Жыл бұрын

All were hanged with the exception of one man Charles I believe it was. He was crushed after he refused to enter a plea. Salem also stood out against other famous witch trials because contrary to others, admitting to the charge and repenting would most likely save your life.

@ThrashmIO Жыл бұрын

Once I heard "History channel" at 37:14 I immediately thought "oh, that makes sense why it's whack".

@samibaby8913 Жыл бұрын

Dedicated...that's why I keep waiting for more...too bad its not more often...miss regular uploads

@artyfarty87 Жыл бұрын

Didn't know KBmorgan was on his children's school board. 😉👍 Well done KB on such an insightful video series. Great start to the year for all of us. ❤❤❤

@jaymc4779 Жыл бұрын

My relation with the Standard American History Myth is a bit unusual I think. I hated history as a kid, so I didn’t really absorb the history myth’s teachings. I thank my lucky stars that I struggled in history class and didn’t buy too heavily into the inaccuracies of the myth because I can learn a more accurate history with a fresh perspective. Wow. Never thought I’d say that doing poorly in a class was GOOD for me! 😮😂 As always, wonderful video and a happy 2023!

@jeffreygao3956 3 ай бұрын

I could never imagine hating history.

@tangentfox4677 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for not adding chapters to this video. I have to often rewind while watching because I'm doing other things, and since KZfaq broke how rewinding works with chapters a couple months ago, it's been unbearable to watch long form content with chapters.

@entropyachieved750 Жыл бұрын

Such an underrated channel. Its a great insight for a non American. Hello from Australia

@mrewan6221 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. It also makes me wonder what mistruths we have in our foundation myths. What was the Rum Rebellion really about, and who were the good guys and who were bad? Same for the Eureka Stockade. Even Ned Kelly; how would we consider him today? Was he the freedom-fighter many calim him to be, or just a petty criminal who had a breif flash of notoriety? Maybe we should look at Frontier Wars more closely. I have ancestors who were in Van Diemen's Land during the Black Line. I hope they weren't involved, but it's easy to see that popular horror propaganda can be accepted by otherwise rational people, causing actions that future generations must resolve.

@garlicfries85 Жыл бұрын

Still early in the video but your opening reminded me the book "lies my history teacher told me" by James loewen . Really good book that talks about actual american history, the mythology that is taught to kids in its place and why we teach certain events a certain way. Oldie but goodie. Btw your channel is awesome and I'm a big fan of your work ❤️

@fnhatic6694 Жыл бұрын

Why do you people assume that one narrative you were told is false and the other is true, when it's literally just as likely that the other is false, too?