Parallel Inverters - Double the Power Hack! Part2

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knurlgnar24

knurlgnar24

Күн бұрын

I make a crude attempt to hook these two inexpensive inverters together to power things neither one can on its own.
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@AndyShell
@AndyShell 6 жыл бұрын
3 years latter and your videos are still great to watch over again. Thanks for all your hard work man. :)
@sorenkaden8615
@sorenkaden8615 3 жыл бұрын
pro trick: watch series on Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching a lot of movies these days.
@jayceonjulien3764
@jayceonjulien3764 3 жыл бұрын
@Soren Kaden definitely, I've been watching on flixzone} for months myself =)
@coronavirus3595
@coronavirus3595 2 жыл бұрын
are you gay? you have crush on him
@JuliansRandomProject
@JuliansRandomProject 9 жыл бұрын
"Let our powers combine!" Nice hack! Could be a first. Since I have a small pile of the 410W inverters kicking around in the garage this is for sure on my to-do list of projects now. Keep up the great work.
@cyverx9999
@cyverx9999 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your very patient and well produced experiment! You're awesome!
@mikep95133
@mikep95133 9 жыл бұрын
Great notion for an inverter video K !!! Enjoyed it thoroughly !!
@dieselbossbrandon
@dieselbossbrandon 9 жыл бұрын
Your a very smart man. I learned a lot from two of your videos so far keep up the awesome work :)
@murraychadwick9362
@murraychadwick9362 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demo! You answered all the questions I had in mind. I have the two same inverters you have.
@derryman9006
@derryman9006 5 жыл бұрын
some fantastic demonstrations, im new to all this and getting some great knowledge on this subject,and with a bit of humor in there im looking forward to more. new subscriber
@outlawrebel4209
@outlawrebel4209 Жыл бұрын
13:25 so I came across your video by asking Google "can I take two 400 watt power inverters and join them together in parallel to make one 800 watt inverter?" Boy am I glad I did that. Not only was your video very informative, but entertaining as well. You have gained a new subscriber. Although I will not be joining mine together I think I'll just keep them separate. Thank you for the video, now I must find some flammable liquid to place on top my mini fridge.😅
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the short answer is that it's simply not practical to join two inverters together to double the output power but I wanted a project so I did this. Also, the inverters were sent by a viewer so I wanted to use them for something on video. I have another very old video where I did a similar thing with two UPS units by putting them in series instead of parallel. I don't post much anymore but that may change at some point. Thanks for the comment!
@GoingOffGrid101
@GoingOffGrid101 9 жыл бұрын
thanks for this video, love them and you knowledge on inverters!
@davidchiumya
@davidchiumya 2 жыл бұрын
A million thanks for sharing this. I love your sense of humour 😀
@Coolkeys2009
@Coolkeys2009 9 жыл бұрын
Great job that worked really well. I noticed some copper links in tape on the PCBs near the power inputs I wonder if they are used as current shunts. I'm also curious how long it would take to overheat at over 800w output.
@operator8014
@operator8014 8 жыл бұрын
I used to be skeptical about the importance of keeping my flammable liquids in close proximity to my mini-fridge, you've really helped push me off the fence on the issue. Liked and subbed!
@Gopaw
@Gopaw 3 жыл бұрын
You are an excellent teacher. Thank you.
@carl2591
@carl2591 7 жыл бұрын
I see this video has been around for a while.. Very funny and love the mini reefer with flammable liquid in front of propane cylinder. You for sure know now to Partieee... thumbs UPPPPPP....
@littlegoobie
@littlegoobie 8 жыл бұрын
would changing the caps for larger ones let handle a higher peak draw startup surges better?
@milvolts1
@milvolts1 5 жыл бұрын
Really impressed of your video it was awesome I learned some new stuff. Like buying a better amp meter amongst other things . I have a question and crossing my fingers you're still answering them. I have a 12v lit ion battery and would like to know what size inverter I can use? Thanks
@omoleogedengbe3007
@omoleogedengbe3007 5 жыл бұрын
I so much love your videos, thanks I just learned a lot from this video.
@garyjones7044
@garyjones7044 6 жыл бұрын
how long is your cord ok got that, 50 feet of 12 gauge is a pretty long run for any high current
@paulpvhl1930
@paulpvhl1930 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting - and this time remembering to subscribe!. This triggered a number of thoughts for me, so I thought I'd share a couple of them even though it's an older video. Why not add some more capacitance to the two linked ones (or to each individually) so they can handle more surge current, to the limit you looked up for the MOSFETs? As to construction: 1) When you had it all apart one could see that the boards could be easily stacked, put into a new case with a shared heatsink, also allowing some reconfiguration within the case and/or fascia layout, if desired, including more capacitance; 2) why not add a current sensor and relay within that new case, and switch on the backup circuit when a threshold is reached -- automatic more efficient convertor that can have one side disabled if it breaks down. The above could be done while preserving their cases, as you've done here. In which case, why not discover the location of the connection spots on one, locate where a hole needs to be drilled in the cases to reach and solder those locations (covered over with tape after), define a connection method (like snaking a plug to the back or underside of the case), and you can easily swap multiple units as desired. Can't wait to check this out with a couple of 1500 watt units. I'm considering starting an open design for an efficient multi-input and output power system for use on boats, RVs, and off-grid that can convert, store, and condition any available power source, automatically choosing between that best available sources, etc. This video triggered many ideas to improve my system. Keep up the good work!
@tommyb.6064
@tommyb.6064 7 жыл бұрын
Well, i had run a mini fridge on a single 400w motomaster inverter, a fridge really similar as yours on a decent steady power source and it would just start right away, there was still some space on the inverter for cell phone chargers.
@ivic1112
@ivic1112 8 жыл бұрын
Can i just use 3 inverters.One off grid to provide voltage reference and then connect 2 grid tie ones that can normaly sync in my small grid?
@garbleduser
@garbleduser 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to have a discussion with you about the dark art of mosfet substitution.
@charlesrichards5389
@charlesrichards5389 3 жыл бұрын
Substitute mosfets, get two 800 watt inverters. **Surprised Pikachu**
@leviahamefula3994
@leviahamefula3994 6 жыл бұрын
You are brilliant, my friend
@billporter6592
@billporter6592 7 жыл бұрын
Wow! I love this info. I may not use it but thank you.😊
@drmed92
@drmed92 9 жыл бұрын
Can you review an sma off grid inverter ?
@matthewszostek1819
@matthewszostek1819 7 жыл бұрын
do you think you could do this with house generators. I would like to build something comparable to a house with the main breaker open and multiple generators plugged into various wall outlets. its for a campground.
@ajayeveron4435
@ajayeveron4435 2 жыл бұрын
Superb piece of knowledge. Awakening and educative.
@fernandorivera2022
@fernandorivera2022 7 жыл бұрын
I am doing a stand alone system with solar panel using this brand name inverter. Do it is possible to use the alarm of the inverter to add a relay hook to a charger with the on grid that allow to charge the batteries during cloudy days?
@harryonnekink3686
@harryonnekink3686 6 жыл бұрын
Hi! Why are you running a white and a black cable between the 2 poles of the batteries in parallel? Thanks for replying.
@chrisw8415
@chrisw8415 6 жыл бұрын
I have two inverters a 5000 watt and a 3500 watt if I increase the 3500 watt output voltage capacitor to match the 5000w I can effectively run both inverters tied together with no issues?
@Syncere20
@Syncere20 7 жыл бұрын
I really like your videos, The 5500 btu window a/c , About how big of a inverter is needed to run only on battery power ? also do you think 24 volt inverter is any better than 12 volt or it doesn't matter. Thank you for your very helpful videos.
@Brokendiode
@Brokendiode 4 жыл бұрын
That seems to work fairly well, considering that the DC-DC converter in those units are accomplished using an SG3525 switching regulator controller, yes you're right that the bridge rectifier stop's current from flowing back into the other inverters DC-DC converter stage However I can tell you that if you turn on both of those units, without having the high voltage DC in parallel and take a reading you will find that they are deferent by as much as several volts, but because of the fact that the SG3525's are very precision regulators, so which ever one is set the highest in voltage will try to take the full load until the current is maxed out, that is why you saw no change in efficiency when turning the second inverter on and off with a little bit more than half load on them, and it is also why you blew the fuses in the one and not the other. On some of these inverters they have a trimmer pots to adjust the high voltage DC, if those units have them you just need to adjust the high voltage to within a few 10's of MV of each other if there done with fixed resistors it's likely that they are off by quite a bit, and you should at least replace one of the fixed resistors with a trimmer pot so you can at least adjust that one too the other, you will get a lot better results.😉
@josepeixoto3384
@josepeixoto3384 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks,very good to know.
@versatec1
@versatec1 3 жыл бұрын
Will the invetters still work in parallel without connecting the capacitors together? Thanks👍
@TheBowersj
@TheBowersj 7 жыл бұрын
is there a limit to how many you can daisychain together?
@xboomer3004
@xboomer3004 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome concept of paralleling two inverters... did not know the larger inverters are generally 2 half wattage inverters...interesting.
@faffaflunkie
@faffaflunkie 9 жыл бұрын
So can you get _800 Watts_ out of _each_ inverter? How about at the _same time_ to power different items?
@gridarmorfix
@gridarmorfix 9 жыл бұрын
14:31 that is a pretty neat looking fridge.
@charleshoward9983
@charleshoward9983 7 жыл бұрын
Great job. keep up the killer videos Thanks.
@ebbcorepairs3253
@ebbcorepairs3253 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, but who do you keep looking at above camera? ;)
@slabrec11
@slabrec11 9 жыл бұрын
I have a 3000 watt inverter. Could you look at it I would pay for you time and shipping
@Hrod750
@Hrod750 9 жыл бұрын
If you boost the input and output stages with more caps you can probably get the power saw started and the vacuum.
@muhannanasser4566
@muhannanasser4566 9 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video .. i wounder if you tried connecting more than TWO inverters . like 1000+ 1000 + 1000 = 3000 can you do that ???
@BCElginTex
@BCElginTex 9 жыл бұрын
So could I wire up 10 inverters to power my 30 amp RV or 30 inverters to power a 50 amp RV, similar to this way? Maybe jumping all of the input capacitors together then having short 15 amp AC power cables come out of each inverter jumped to 6 gauge cables connected to the RV circuit breaker panel box? Not sure how to get the two 50 amp 120 volt legs 180 degrees out of phase with each other.
@DMAN22yeah
@DMAN22yeah 8 жыл бұрын
there are many things that wont work with that setup
@bayerbear6770
@bayerbear6770 6 жыл бұрын
Watch part 1 first
@garyjones7044
@garyjones7044 5 жыл бұрын
Ive had that inverter for a couple years its had some major abuse and just keeps ticking
@tutu27han
@tutu27han 7 жыл бұрын
a modified sine inverter(bestek 1000w) can power a fridge? or it is needed a pure sine?thx for sharing,
@jeffreytownsend7814
@jeffreytownsend7814 5 жыл бұрын
A pure sine wave inverter will work best for refrigerators/ freezers. Modified sine wave will not run the compressor optimally and will overheat causing the compressor to cycle on and off more frequently via the thermostat. Effectively, your freezer will not be as cold as it could be.
@AftermarketCRX
@AftermarketCRX 9 жыл бұрын
Love the video, not sure if I'd try it myself. But nice to know it can be done. What I am curious to know. Since you're getting 60v on the hot and 60v on the neutral, is there a way to ramp them up to 120 each, yielding a 240v inverter.
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 9 жыл бұрын
If you synched the output stages and drove them from a single source it could be possible to put the two in series to double the voltage. I didn't try that in this video as it would be more complicated and I have no use personally for 240V at 800W.
@herbertcharles8606
@herbertcharles8606 Жыл бұрын
How do you balance the frequency of the 2 inverter at the same time.
@deanlaclair265
@deanlaclair265 6 жыл бұрын
are the out puts tied still tied together with the orange wires? how are the phase of the inverters synched? have you ;looked at the output with a scope? might want to
@fxm5715
@fxm5715 6 жыл бұрын
If I understand what he's doing, the whole point is that he's not messing with sync at all, and that's what makes it so simple. The two outputs will still be out of phase, but both are capable of double the output (not simultaneously, of course), thanks to sharing their inputs before the conversion to AC.
@umbrefawx
@umbrefawx 9 жыл бұрын
I bet them fuses belw with the circular saw, seeing how it performed the second and third time you pulled the trigger
@jmrichsonsr
@jmrichsonsr 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting but not practical. But it is the unpractical things that satisfies the ultra curious mind. I like all your videos.
@RiaRadioFMHD773
@RiaRadioFMHD773 8 жыл бұрын
"DO NOT REMOVE THIS TAG" *rips it off* LOL (XD)
@goranfreight4308
@goranfreight4308 4 жыл бұрын
What if they have same voltage but one is pure sine and one is modified. Can you run. Them like that?
@Totogita
@Totogita 4 жыл бұрын
The current clamp on meter , what model is that? If you please can you go over current meters dc a ac types Thank you
@tonysmith7283
@tonysmith7283 7 жыл бұрын
The junction temperature of the output transformers when doubling the output power, would necessitate consideration of the heat sink design, otherwise, some form of thermal overload protection.
@martinocko9
@martinocko9 9 жыл бұрын
do you can do a triple Inverters
@MrDolfo1
@MrDolfo1 3 жыл бұрын
Used pure sine wave inverter with a surge current three times as RMS (continues current) to run a motorized appliances. Motorized appliances has a surge current to start.
@bayerbear6770
@bayerbear6770 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a 1500w mod sinewave inverter could be boosted by extracting the dc intermediary from an inverter-type gasoline generator..? This way one could use battery for most items, but start up a generator outdoors for when you do power appliances.. Perhaps with a rectifier for safety... Hm..
@claverrobb791
@claverrobb791 9 жыл бұрын
Great videos and lots of information man,i would like to know if this could be done with two 1000 watt wagan slimline inverters?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 9 жыл бұрын
For higher output inverters like those slimlines you would need to sync the output stages and run them in parallel which is unfortunately more complicated than just a couple of wires. I imagine the output stages would overheat if the load wasn't shared. That said you could still try this method at your own risk!
@graemestephensen1778
@graemestephensen1778 3 жыл бұрын
I was interested by your experiment, but I am confused. How did you handle the phase difference?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 3 жыл бұрын
I cheated. I decided that the output h-bridge on a single unit was strong enough to handle the boost stage of both inverters.
@AlexandreJasmin
@AlexandreJasmin 9 жыл бұрын
Did you try measuring the current at the input of both inverters to see if they share the load equally?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 9 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that I did and that they did, but this was recorded so long ago that I no longer remember such details in, well, detail.
@rjifreeman360com
@rjifreeman360com 9 жыл бұрын
Knurlgnar24, question? Given the particular setup of the batteries and inverters as per this video would it be possible to attach a battery charger on one inverter connected to the battery bank thus charging the batteries while using the other to power a typical lower wattage item? Ie: effectively negating a significant drain on the batteries by the system self charging during use? Hope this makes sense! Cheers, rich.
@DMAN22yeah
@DMAN22yeah 8 жыл бұрын
no
@ctscantechnologist
@ctscantechnologist 3 жыл бұрын
You're really sharp...
@jamesmorrell969
@jamesmorrell969 5 жыл бұрын
How does the AC current get from the second inverter to the power bar ?
@user-pz6cx8zf2y
@user-pz6cx8zf2y 4 жыл бұрын
The total A.C current (twice the normal one) is drawn only from the output of one inverter. The output of the unused inverter was free (i.e. unloaded. No current through it). He only paralleled the outputs of the D.C to D.C conversion stages of both inverters.
@herculestubalado906
@herculestubalado906 6 жыл бұрын
I have tried this but I toast the two inverters and my friend told me my inverter is not design for parallel set up so if I be doing it again I will the one that says can be connected in paralled.
@user-pz6cx8zf2y
@user-pz6cx8zf2y 4 жыл бұрын
You cannot parallel the A.C outputs of two inverters. Naturally they will explode. This is due to the fact that each ordinary inverter has its own oscillator for its output. Therefore two in depended inverters will have frequency and phase differences in their outputs. Even if their frequency is identical, it is the phase difference that causes the explosion (especially if it is reversed at the moment of the paralleling). For paralleling A.C outputs therefore, both their frequency and phase should have zero differences to each other. They should be locked to each other. But with ordinary inverters this is a very difficult modification to implement. Only those grid tie inverters can be directly paralleled to the utility or be stacked to each other, because they automatically detect that critical "zero frequency - zero phase" condition and then perform the paralleling automatically again.
@myCloudWatcher
@myCloudWatcher 3 жыл бұрын
Question: Is the Phase of the two in sync? How would you fix this issue? Does it matter?
@vinylapplying
@vinylapplying Жыл бұрын
Hi connected it after rectifier before high voltage transistors, there is DC
@evone56
@evone56 4 жыл бұрын
Your a genius, Omg awesome and something I can afford. Thank you so much for sharing:)
@javaman2883
@javaman2883 5 жыл бұрын
It's an economic measure. The company probably makes multiple models, and the output stage probably does not have much cost savings going with components matched to the power output, so they just use the same output stage on say the 100 to 1000 watt models. Which makes sense because the output is lower current. The input stage has beefier components due to handling the higher current. So there is savings by matching the input stage to the desired output of that model. Thanks for a well thought experiment.
@billa9954
@billa9954 6 жыл бұрын
Because the leads to the batteries both go to the same battery, the other battery has an additional length of wire giving it more resistance. Thus it won't discharge as much and won't charge as much. Move one of the leads to the inverter to the other battery. The the voltage across both batteries will be the same and both will charge and discharge equally.
@markalcomdmarcos7132
@markalcomdmarcos7132 5 жыл бұрын
You look like Stu (hang over movie) Stuart Price 🤣🤣🤣🤣 nice video !
@slicknickrules
@slicknickrules 4 жыл бұрын
What size ring on wire
@SeanPaul-ee5ye
@SeanPaul-ee5ye 3 ай бұрын
Sooo... I know You mentioned the construction Could be an issue. I was not fortunate enough to purchase identical Inverters. So I recently purchased a Shumacher 750w, I now want to add it to My current slightly older Green Fuel 1000w. What do You think would be the outcome??? Is it plausible??? Watt variance an issue???
@firesblade1888
@firesblade1888 4 жыл бұрын
so what did you try to proof
@crispicrit
@crispicrit 9 жыл бұрын
on your air conditioner i start it without the compressor running with just the fans after the fans are turning activate the cooling part.
@WorkingDogsChannel
@WorkingDogsChannel 9 жыл бұрын
I am enjoying watching your videos. After seeing your review on the Cobra 2500 watt inverter which I have I decided to go in a differfent direction. You really gave the the Tiger Claw 1500W pure sine wave inverter a good review. in terms of output would you say that the tiger claw would be anout the same as with the 2500 watt Cobra? Could 2 tiger claws 1500 inverters be wired in parallel to double the output?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 9 жыл бұрын
The Tiger Claw inverters cannot be paralleled, and a single Tiger Claw cannot power as much as the Cobra 2500. That said the Tiger Claw is a much better product. It depends on what you need/want to power: Your best option may be a different 3kw type MSW inverter if you need to power heavy loads on a tight budget.
@xboomer3004
@xboomer3004 9 жыл бұрын
WorkingDogsChannel Tiger Claw makes a 3000 watt MODIFIED sine wave inverter... but the 1500 is Pure...
@repcomk
@repcomk 9 жыл бұрын
great!! i had seen parallel connections dor duplicate the output power in inverter generators (like yamaha). There, the bridge its a simple two wire cable, same like you do in your video. I really believe that its possible, obviously the output semiconductors that were after the transformer (whatever that been.. triacs or SCRs or Transistors) will drive more power and should be recalculated and changed by bigger ones. Additionally your injverters are power rated 410W but uses 20A fuses, I think that the real max power should be around 200W and the peak power is 410W (depends the inverter but peak power commonlly its for just less that a minute) But its an interesting project... i will try with my inverters... thanks
@josepeixoto3384
@josepeixoto3384 2 жыл бұрын
i no think that, the 2 inverters have all their outputs working: double power,but double IGBTs 2014 »»»» 2022 wow...
@repcomk
@repcomk 2 жыл бұрын
@@josepeixoto3384 😂 I have forgotten this comment. I finally looked for a bigger inverter 😁. Thanks for reply
@ISCFworld
@ISCFworld 5 жыл бұрын
was ur bar fridge 12v or 24v? ive just brought a 1600w Pure sine wave invereter an it wont run the little barfridge
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 5 жыл бұрын
What brand/model inverter? I am not surprised. Most 1500W inverters are marketing 'scams' and don't really provide what you expect. The other variable is battery and cabling. You will need one very good battery or two in parallel along with some nice thick, short cabling to connect it all together. Fridges take a nasty surge to get started - probably close to that 1600W level. Once running they will only take a couple hundred watts at most.
@user-ix3xr2od9m
@user-ix3xr2od9m 9 жыл бұрын
I know you like to experiment with things and ideas... so here's a BIG one for you and anyone that cares to comment on it. what would happen if you hook a grid tie inverter to a non grid tie inverter? will the grid tie feed back AC into the non grid tie? will that make grid tie a charger to the batteries since it's been fed AC?
@edcglassworks5771
@edcglassworks5771 9 ай бұрын
Great content. Great video.
@jimmyvega7938
@jimmyvega7938 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I have "2" Xantrex Pro 1000w (2007 model) I would like to build a "mobile hand cart Generator," also I would like to hardwire both inverter to a small 2-pole (30 amp breaker box) to hook up an 240v outlet to run my lincoln welder ? to your suggestions will be really appreciated
@AndyShell
@AndyShell 9 жыл бұрын
Some parts should have been omitted as they were long and negated latter. It would be awesome if you did a quick heat measure, sustainability test at ~800 watts. Great videos and keep it up!
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 9 жыл бұрын
I understand your suggestion and I have been trying to keep things moving in my videos as of late for this reason. That said, my style of videos is more 'explain why' with some cursory detail and show the experimentation process whether it fails or succeeds. I realize it may be slower than many people prefer but it's they style I enjoy doing and while there are plenty of television style video out there that just show the setup and result, there aren't many videos out there that try to describe the process in full. And as an engineer I feel obligated to, unfortunately or not. Thanks for your comment!
@AndyShell
@AndyShell 9 жыл бұрын
I get ya man. It's your show and I know how much work it is to film and edit. I take the lazy route just to get my result data out there for the group. Love your videos and how well you present them with all variables looked at and explained.
@ananominity
@ananominity Жыл бұрын
How are you combining the load capacity of these in parallel with only one inverter feeding the power strip? Are they tied together internally? Couldn't you come out of each one with a 120v cord then splice them together in a j-box with a plug to feed the load? I'm wanting to do the same by adding additional inverters to my system to increase the wattage capacity to feed my house panel. I agree with how you have the battery +/- split to balance the DC voltage. If I use identical inverters from the same manufacturer they should all have pretty much identical output sine waves & voltage readings so there shouldn't be any reason for them to interfere with each other negatively. It will only be one phase 120v but I can work with that. Your thoughts?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 Жыл бұрын
The inverters must be perfectly in phase or they will interfere and destroy eachother. I paralleled the boost stage of the inverter and used only one for the output stage as the limitation in these particular inverters was the boost stage.
@jockosboy17
@jockosboy17 8 жыл бұрын
Can sine wave inverters be connected this way?
@user-pz6cx8zf2y
@user-pz6cx8zf2y 4 жыл бұрын
Only those grid tie ones. Not the ordinary types.
@fassphoto
@fassphoto 9 жыл бұрын
i guess you did not understanding what i sad, but its ok, i like you videos any thanks for your time and keep on with the good work, i been learn a lot with your videos. best regards, fassphoto.
@keithcamilleri8216
@keithcamilleri8216 9 жыл бұрын
Hi there. I had a 600w (12v) inverter that jystvwasnt good enough . so I bought a 1000w one . on the box its says that Max peak I'd 2400w . however when I use it it feels slightly stronger than the 600 w . anything above 800w is tripping it and restarting . I haven't checked fuses yet as its brand new unboxed. I have a 2000w heater that has 2 buttons .. First button says 750w. Switches on . that's good. But if I try just the second button of 1250w . doesn't work . if it'd 2400w peak , why not?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 9 жыл бұрын
Ignore the 'peak' rating on inverters because it is a meaningless marketing spec. (usually it means it can supply that amount of power for 0.1 seconds or less which isn't helpful for most applications) Your heater will likely require around 1500W for 10 seconds or so until it heats up on the 1250W setting, so you should have a 1500W inverter minimum for that purpose.
@niceblokeray4455
@niceblokeray4455 Жыл бұрын
How are you linking both outputs on each inverter to produce 600w?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 Жыл бұрын
I'm using the output stage on just one of the two since it was overbuilt vs the boost stage.
@carltonpiercey9220
@carltonpiercey9220 8 ай бұрын
Thanks. I have a 3kw 240v continuous and the infernal thing done plummeted. I tried to make a portable ev charger for my Chevy Volt w/ bad ICE. I wanted a bigger inverter because the ev charging cord shows 3100w during charging. But my lithium batteries may be insufficient. I'm going to open up my inverter and add solder along the primary tracks like you did. The setup did power a 240v cooktop burner. I am a traveller so I used a travel voltage adapter to attempt to run a space heater which the motor was erratic. And my guess is I may want to request refund on the inverter since it was supposed to be pure sine wave, so the question is why the fan was choppy. Oh yeah and I took the 3 50v battery packs and hooked them in series without inverter and they ran a 150w and 3 25w incandescents for a reasonable amount of time. So I'm spearmint-ing still. I'm about to fix my ICE if I can but tell you the truth I'd rather expand my HV battery pack for more range. But this and part 1 were very informative and hopefully will help me a great deal
@velucluj
@velucluj 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why is the output only on one inverter? Why not put in parallel the output also?
@rolanddvcourt
@rolanddvcourt 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched the 1st Video. Thanks!
@abdulmajithg
@abdulmajithg 5 жыл бұрын
is it possible to amplify the power than the battery has already ..? any one, please help me to understand.. inverter maximizes the voltage.. so what about electricity..? p = vi ....
@1234mattyman
@1234mattyman 5 жыл бұрын
You should connect 3 or more inverters together to get more watts
@gumnahs
@gumnahs Жыл бұрын
Awesome effort ! great video. I have been watching more and more solar, inverter videos. I circled back again to this video. I have a few queries : 1) Will the load be shared if the inverted are dissimilar( like one is a 1000W ) inverter. 2) What will be the case if one inverter is grid tie (ex: 300w) and I want to increase the output power to 500w by coupling a normal 300w inverter connected to a matching solar panel or a battery input. Please let me know your thoughts.
@vinylapplying
@vinylapplying Жыл бұрын
In theory when 1 of them max out other will kick in . I will do exactly what you ask.
@sodiumtechnologiesug366
@sodiumtechnologiesug366 Жыл бұрын
This was great,I liked it
@808pathfinder
@808pathfinder Жыл бұрын
Extension cords can change what your inverter can handle ,the shorter the cord the better ,keep n eye on the gauge wire in the cord when you buy them ,look for 12 gauge wire in the cord
@xanataph
@xanataph 9 жыл бұрын
Ok...well it works...excellent...! :) Could you do this with bigger inverters? The only problem that I foresee is that the H-Bridge devices could be potentially be operating far closer to their maximum ratings than in a smaller model. Do you agree with that?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 9 жыл бұрын
For larger inverters you would need to make use of both the input and output stages of both. This would involve paralleling the output drive FETs and their respective drive circuitry which is more complicated than what I was able to do here.
@erictheawesomest
@erictheawesomest 9 жыл бұрын
***** but would it be the same as you have done on the capacitor, just a simple bridge? i want to parallel 2 x 1500w inverters, so i would make a bridge to all three of the legs of the transistors plus the capacitor, and ill get something close to 3000w?
@xanataph
@xanataph 9 жыл бұрын
***** On the face ov it you could perhaps add additional mosfets in parallel with the existing ones in the H-Bridge to beef up a single output stage in what you deem the "master" inverter. However, I see a couple ov potential issues in that approach. a) If there were filter components following the bridge then they would have to be uprated too. b) There may possibly be some kind ov power monitoring arrangement that closes things down when the expected power lever is reached, even though now you have made it capable ov more.
@erictheawesomest
@erictheawesomest 9 жыл бұрын
xanataph yea that is also an idea, just I'm not very electronically educated so (though it may be more expensive) if I could do the simple bridge between the fets it would save me going to school again lol, I guess I should try fiddle with a very cheap inverter before throwing money away.. Thanks for your input, you have given me a potentially better option if I can figure out how to bypass the filters
@xanataph
@xanataph 9 жыл бұрын
***** Strapping all the pins ov each mosfet between the inverters in the H-Bridge section would *definitely* be a bad idea. Because the clock signals in each unit will not be synchronised, and this would most likely result in a massive short circuit between both inverter's output stages, destroying them both. If you were going to do something like this what you would need to do is use one inverter as the master clock & send this signal into the gates ov the mosfets (or the driver chips) ov the slave unit. If you did this, you would not need to parallel any ov the high voltage connections around the mosfets at all, just the AC outputs as both inverter output stages would be in sync. However this really becomes a fairly advanced operation with electronics as it would involve tracing and re-routing these signals.
@aterack833
@aterack833 9 жыл бұрын
frist of all im gonna try this fridge, because we wernt able to try it last time, this time i have this electric heater blowing on it, now it thinks it hot in here, and it will be more than happy enough to run, so, this is a 55kw? lol
@LanceLaCroix
@LanceLaCroix 6 жыл бұрын
great videos, thank you. BTW: 1 horsepower is a little over 700 watts... so 3 hp = 2100+ watts
@renatoreyes2619
@renatoreyes2619 3 жыл бұрын
Can I put three 12vdc to 60vdc 1500 watts inverter in parallel to run a 4000 watts motors
@Diy-For-Life
@Diy-For-Life 23 күн бұрын
Could potentially this concept work on other various size inverters? In theory obviously. Im sure there are other variables you cant account for in this question lol
@plasmar1
@plasmar1 4 жыл бұрын
I like this as it gives me a easy hack to potentially make a dirt cheap 24v inverter:P
@fassphoto
@fassphoto 9 жыл бұрын
The same way we ( Convert 3 phase AC to Single phase AC Circuit ) , we complete isolate one from other, than we mix again and adjust the outside volts and amps, using oscillators circuits and big MOSFETs, what do you think, if we do the same with 2 or more (absolute-same) inverters. connect they individual input to the same OR different battery bank, get they individual output and treat as individual AC phases, and than ( Convert 3 phase AC to Single phase AC Circuit ). Please let me know your thoughts, Please let me know if I am not clear on my comment. best regards and please keep rolling.
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 9 жыл бұрын
If the inverters are prefectly synchronized and connected in series it could conceivably work to double the power and double the voltage, but fault conditions such as overload will cause one to shut down potentially before the other damaging the units.
@allenwrench990
@allenwrench990 9 жыл бұрын
***** Okay, glad you cleared that up. I was thinking that the synchronization would still oscillate even slightly. Wish I could see this on like an oscilloscope. I'm so behind. :(
@nasanction
@nasanction 7 жыл бұрын
Could you keep stacking the inverters? say make a 20 converter stack and have about 7,000 watts? Just asking...
@FullSendPrecision
@FullSendPrecision 7 жыл бұрын
7k watts is far beyond what a single household outlet can handle. So.... Yeah it would "work" but you'd release blue smoke from somewhere.
@robertsnead6844
@robertsnead6844 5 жыл бұрын
Now split your 120 vac into the bottom of your power box in your home using 2 120 vac 50 amp circuit breakers 1 on each side and the fridge will run just can't run the Heat Pump
@robertsnead6844
@robertsnead6844 5 жыл бұрын
Forgot to tell you to turn off the 100 amp breaker at the top as long as all the inverters are true sine wave you can go as high as 20000 or 20 kw kva for the tech types
@robertsnead6844
@robertsnead6844 5 жыл бұрын
At 20 kw as long as the heat tapes in your heat pump don't come on this this would work just make sure you have a large battery bank, most 12 vdc car Batteries have about 8 amp hours so a few solar panels to run a charger will keep you going however, due to the law of decreasing returns eventually all power will die unless charged, most new vehicles have an inverter just crank your car and plug in the charger never draw power from a battery while charging this will damage the battery, charger, and your vehicles inverter
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