Salomon S/Lab Phantasm 2
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Күн бұрын2023 seems to be the year where a lot of brands are finally getting their racing shoes right. Can Salomon also add their name to this list? This is the Salomon S Lab Phantasm 2, and it’s time to take it for a run.
Salomon S/Lab Phantasm 2 goes on sale Oct 1, 2023.
0:00 intro
1:04 disclosures
1:25 specs
3:35 what it's like
7:21 pairs with
8:35 competes against
disclosures: Salomon sent me these shoes to review, so I did not have to pay for them (this should go without saying for any shoe review that is being published before the product is available for purchase by the public). However, no one is paying me to make this video or to use this shoe. No one will get a chance to preview any of my footage or my thoughts before this video goes up on KZfaq.
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@sooyaaa7760 9 ай бұрын
The minimal use of color and the way that Salamon branding looks, this shoe is just so good-looking.
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
I agree
@BroPhotography 9 ай бұрын
god i love the look of this shoe so much
@jp05598 9 ай бұрын
Same, super sharp. The translucent part gives me nostalgic Nike VF1 vibes (vapor weave)
@greenhat7618 9 ай бұрын
S Lab shoes always look pretty good, just that they all have a very ugly price tag
@tangc 9 ай бұрын
And your logo matches the color way of this shoe😊😊
@mustafaozkan37 4 ай бұрын
So expensive in turkey. I guess i will never have this shoes. :(
@andrew-ng 9 ай бұрын
The aesthetics is off the charts. Love a shoe that doesn't scream RUNNING SHOE in your face.
@Matt_Kraczon 9 ай бұрын
Nice flashback to the zoom fly SP! That shoe was how I found you and your videos, I had just got a pair at the local Nike outlet and was wondering what they were best for, google search pulled up your video and I’ve been watching since .
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
ah, memories
@watsanlik 9 ай бұрын
One of the better looking shoe / colorway lately, similar to the Deviate Nitro Elite 1 (Speed City).
@ADyess086 9 ай бұрын
Oh can’t wait!!!!!
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
Coming soon. Oct 1
@pbnotj1 9 ай бұрын
Looks amazing, so pricey still I usually only try a super shoe if I can find on great sale later ! Thanks for great review as usual !
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@DCYTB 9 ай бұрын
Just as I was looking for a review of this shoe 😂 Kofuzi to the rescue
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
hope the review is helpful
@brewlovinrunner 9 ай бұрын
I’ve never tried Solomon or even seen any of their shoes in person but I like how these look. I’d love to see you try the Altra Escalante racers. People steer away cause they look minimalistic but there’s something I really like about them on fast days. Like running barefoot full speed without the pain of running barefoot full speed.
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
I tried the Escalate 2.5 a few years ago. It was pretty nice
@goutfromfriedokra3936 8 ай бұрын
@@kofuzi What shoe would you pick for indoor gym classes-part treadmill, part dumbbell weight classes? I liked TOPO but I can't tolerate the design.
@griffitts7 9 ай бұрын
I'm digging that new gray colorway in that magic Speed 3.
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
Those are white. Or they were white
@LarsIvarHenriksen 9 ай бұрын
Hey Kofuzi. After a visit to a running brand last year (one of the brands that haven't made a Pebax shoe yet), where I was lucky enough to talk to the head designer of running shoes, I got a bit more inside on the reason why some brands have held back. It has mostly to do with two aspects of production. One is cost. It is more expensive and to make the foam. Whether this is because they needed new molds specially made, or if the entire process is more expensive, I don't know. The second reason is the impact Pebax foam production has on the environment. There is supposed to be a clear difference in making a EVA shoe and a Pebax shoe. And to some companies, that have pushed towards being better for the environment, it was going the opposite way if they manufactured Pebax. This is not mentioned at all in the running communitiy, so it seems to be some kind of a secret. So, if this is true, it seems to be very different story behind all the focus on environment, that we have right now. Maybe something worth asking about when talking to brands? Anyways. Enjoy your content as always. I tried last years Phantasm and felt it had some promise, and some faults as well. So I can't wait to try the second version if I get the opportunity. Lars
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
Something that may factor into both cost and environmental impact is that the rate of defect is much higher than with EVA. So to make a hundred shippable shoes, for example, they need to produce way more than 100 units.
@jmbaug1229 9 ай бұрын
Beautiful !!! J.
@Drew.Whitcomb 9 ай бұрын
Pretty much right on target with my thoughts on this one. Btw, this was the main shoe inside the Salomon secret room at TRE.
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
ah, that makes sense
@yohankusuma5510 9 ай бұрын
Let's gooo!
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
Yo!
@franklehouillier8865 9 ай бұрын
This Kofuzi review gets an A-. I liked most of the running shots and the deer but there was one shot where the laces of one shoe were loose and it gave me the heebie jeebies. The shoe looks great on the closeups.
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
these shoes had major issues with laces becoming untied. had to triple knot them
@franklehouillier8865 9 ай бұрын
@@kofuzi It's Salomon. Their usual idea of laces is their quicklaces. Maybe they don't know regular laces that well.
@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 9 ай бұрын
@@franklehouillier8865saw that too just now before reading your comment!
@Crossendurancerunning 9 ай бұрын
What is the sizing like? How is the fit?
@adevilcamehere8692 9 ай бұрын
@ 4:57 the laces come off, is that a problem w the lacing or just a random event
@runnerup9786 9 ай бұрын
I love my Sense Ride 3, so comfortable for a fairly aggressive grip..so I can imagine this is great. Might be a daft question but what is P-Backs/PBax?
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
pebax is a material that is used in shoes
@tabe5686 9 ай бұрын
Incredible design! But I’m bummed you don’t think it’s a full marathon shoe. Do you have a list of top full marathon shoes as we approach marathon season??
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
it's not a marathon specific list, but everything on this channels skews towards marathoners, as that is what I do most often kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLdggtykl9GUeqM.htmlsi=NrD55tz0GVkDa15P
@edlorenz1552 9 ай бұрын
I just did my longest run today in the Magic Speed 3. It is on the firmer side and I think I could take it to half marathon, but just barely. Interesting paring with Salomon. Do you think the Salomon could take you farther if you had to pick between the two?
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
yes
@lencazero4712 7 ай бұрын
@kofuzi, could you please summarize your tests of low and high threshold and VO2 Max you performed on these shoes? Thank you
@kofuzi 7 ай бұрын
you can look at my strava if you like, but this feels like a rather large ask. I'm not an exercise physiologist, nor do I want to write a term paper.
@EvilTeacher34 9 ай бұрын
I'm running Chicago for the first time! Tusks for the video... now to look for the best places to get some pizza!!!
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
🍕
@mooncat0025 9 ай бұрын
Kofuzi, please review Craft nordlite speed.
@DillonJan 9 ай бұрын
How does it compare to the asics metaspeed edge+?
@garethevans2499 9 ай бұрын
It's so pretty. Re: Pebax - didn't Atreyu use it for the Artist? If that's the case I don't think it's to do with exclusive deals but design choice
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
I'm not sure that was pebax. Even if it were, perhaps their orders would have been small enough to slide through
@demzre 9 ай бұрын
How are the laces? Salomon had a Phastasm 1 try-on run in my City a year ago and a bunch of us had to re-lace multiple times during a 3-mile run.
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
I had to triple knot
@MrRoyalrobbins Ай бұрын
got my pair today. Lets see
@kofuzi Ай бұрын
have a great run!
@JuneScapula 9 ай бұрын
Already released in the EU and it is 250€ maybe they changed the price? Usually the dollar conversion is 1:1 nowadays and after a quick check seems true for some salomon models. Fingers crossed fo you guys!
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
I have early media info. Who knows what the actual price will be in the US
@rozaal8996 9 ай бұрын
Hi Ko! How was sizing in this one? Did you go with your regular size?
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
yes
@rozaal8996 9 ай бұрын
@@kofuzithank you for the answer 🙌🏽
@samruiw 9 ай бұрын
this will be the rare one I buy at launch, for the differentiating factor that there's that extra width/stability where I land in the forefoot. Also love the magic speed so I'm glad to see the comparison. ASICS has been killing it lately, surprised I haven't seen the gel kensei MAX get more hype -- amazing shoe as well
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
I'm not familiar with the kinsei max. never heard of it.
@FenboyTim 9 ай бұрын
The gel Kinsei max is £185 rrp in the UK, recent release. I’ve not seen any reviews or much mention of it. 🤷♂️
@samruiw 9 ай бұрын
@@FenboyTimworth it imo. Feels like a nimbus 25 got a tpu plate
@stevemckellar4978 9 ай бұрын
They look like the old Marlboro McLaren F1 cars🏎!
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
nice connection there. I hadn't thought of that
@Cjs498 3 ай бұрын
I knew l couldn’t be the only f1 nerd watching this
@A_SEGA_Dremcast 9 ай бұрын
You've clearly been running the hell out of those Magic Speed 3s lol
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
It’s been my default ASICS trip shoe
@1792dt 9 ай бұрын
Kofuzi do you have any Asics recommendations for forefoot strikers? thanks.
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
Metaspeed Sky Plus (assuming you want a race day recommendation since this comment was dropped on a race day shoe review)
@1792dt 9 ай бұрын
@@kofuzi sorry to not specify i mean daily trainer. Just got into your videos. Needed to ask you
@CannabisTechLife 9 ай бұрын
Agreed. $250 seems like the sweet spot for super shoes. Anything over that seems excessive.
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
I don’t mind it for Prime X or Endorphin Elite. But for most shoes, $225-$250 is great
@casual.runner 9 ай бұрын
yeah $225 -$250 is the sweet sp....
@joedeering9525 9 ай бұрын
How did the s/lab version compare to the regular Phantasm 2?
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
I wish they had completely different names. They are completely different shoes
@joedeering9525 9 ай бұрын
@@kofuzi did I miss a video on the regular? I thought I saw it on your Strava. Not a lot of videos on YT 🥴😭
@macau.friend 9 ай бұрын
The only reason I find this shoe appealing is because it reminds me of the Vaporfly 😂
@LFKY13 9 ай бұрын
too cool to tie your shoes 😎
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
If only that were the reason
@casual.runner 9 ай бұрын
love the launch colorway and upper design 🔥 Odd space to fill though, the shoe as a half marathon racer. feels like the shorter distance trainers these days can usually double up as a half marathon option whereas for marathon racing, the field is more distinct. imho, at this price point too, hard to justify unless you have 4-5 shoe rotation
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
Maybe from a conceptual framework I’d agree with you, but that assumes you like the non S/Lab Phantasm 2 (I don’t). Also, even from one of my favorite speed trainers, the Deviate Nitro 2, is still want something more aggressive for a race
@casual.runner 9 ай бұрын
@@kofuzi - yes they are all different, that's how i try to justify my shoe buying addiction😁 also ur shoe wall is the envy of us all 😅 i wonder if it will be an interesting video to feature a $200 shoe rotation vs $500 vs $1000, and where some shoes like the s/lab phantasm 2 will feature
@jaymesmaldonado8134 9 ай бұрын
It’s literally a Hoka Rocket X2 with red
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
Kinda but not
@RunnerWil 9 ай бұрын
it looked like a bowling shoe at first to me on top.
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
Bowling shoe design has come a long way
@bbidlebugs 9 ай бұрын
Have you worn the Phantasm 2, and is it a good companion to the S Lab version?
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
I do not enjoy the non S Lab variant. it is far too firm for my preferences
@bbidlebugs 9 ай бұрын
Thanks. A real shame. Could have been a nice one-two combo.
@frederickianbuslon9220 9 ай бұрын
Need more colorway
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
You don’t like the launch color?
@frederickianbuslon9220 9 ай бұрын
@@kofuzi I like though but at least there is color option to choose
@RowOfMushyTiT 9 ай бұрын
S/LAB only ever comes in one colourway
@thecaptainchas2820 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like an A tier shoe for an S tier price.
@mohammadtaufek5529 9 ай бұрын
P bags ??
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
Pebax is a trade name for PEBA (polyether block amide)
@Mojavehixon 9 ай бұрын
its factory capabilities
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
thanks for the confirmation
@Feanaro5503 9 ай бұрын
A real slab of a shoe 😁
@TheBowerbird 9 ай бұрын
Pretty, but the price is a joke @ $275, and it's not even really designed properly for a marathon. No thanks.
@andrew7223 9 ай бұрын
Way too expensive, unless you're good enough to have a sponsor.
@balraksangma6212 8 ай бұрын
Give me one running shoe size7🤩😴 Nike Hoka Adidas Asics I'm poor man😢 please
@chaz4510 7 ай бұрын
Don't get them of you overpronate. Some of the footage of people collaping in on it are painful to watch.
@kofuzi 7 ай бұрын
This shoe has been out for a while now. I’m guessing we should therefore be seeing a lot of people reporting distress from all that overpronation.
@30m3 9 ай бұрын
Wtf is p backs?
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
pebax
@uhuhuhuhuhuh91 9 ай бұрын
Thats one expensive shoe tho...
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
no one tell @uhuhuhuhuhuh91 about the Adios Pro Evo 1, Prime X, Prime X2, Speedland, or Endorphin Elite 🤫
@uhuhuhuhuhuh91 9 ай бұрын
@@kofuzi bro, thats Salomon. When you pay for Pro Evo 1 you understand that you pay for a brand and thats part of the reason its so expensive. In Salomon they neither spend much on marketing nor on deals with athletes (in comparison to Adidas, Nike, etc.). So thats why I pointed out the price.
@ayowser01 9 ай бұрын
I don't see it. This shoe doesn't look particularly good to me; very mid.
@kofuzi 9 ай бұрын
it's a great time to be a runner. something for everyone.
@shushuyu 5 ай бұрын
Omg tie your shoe!! 🤮
@kofuzi 5 ай бұрын
Practice. We talking about practice?
@donsaquing 9 ай бұрын
Sicckkkkk design
@matthiascoulier 6 ай бұрын
Best marathon carbon shoe in your opinion?
@kofuzi 6 ай бұрын
Top 5 Carbon Plated Racing Shoes of 2023 video coming soon. In the meantime, here is 2022’s video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLdggtykl9GUeqM.htmlsi=ep5WPYMdK2xMuyla
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