Creating BIG GUITAR TONES with MONUMENTS!
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11 ай бұрынCheck out the full MONUMENTS course with Adam Steel:
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Today our buddy @adamsteelproducer takes over the channel to tell us about how he tracked guitars with the amazing prog-djent metal band Monuments and how he combined two amps, two cabs and a bunch of microphones for a larger than life tone!
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@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
Who's not afraid of blending amps, cabs and mics? 😇
@miserychannel666 11 ай бұрын
ME. I've been doing this forever.. ;) Last rig was 2 RK's ;) Currently running: SWITCHBONE V2 A - Lehle P-Split CLEAN - is always my trusty JC ROLAND 120 H + JC 160 B - Tube Screamer Ibanez - Lehle P-split GAIN - Mesa QUADpre with a decimator into Mesa Coliseum 300 amp + RK with a Mesa 5 band EQ and a decimator Dial in the tone on each amp individually, then run them simultaneously with independent volume pedals to blend. 2 Mesa half back 4x12's 1 Mesa armor plated OS 4x12 1 Diezel 2x12 FL 1 Mesa 2 x 12 recto 1 Mesa 1x12 Theile 200 w EVM Add in a 2notes .. CAB M for a direct signal with some Killer IR blends Pure Tonal Bliss Cheers, Amigo.
@thatguyinaband6341 11 ай бұрын
Gran Hechicero I think does this he is the bomb! you ever heard him!
@SQstudios_ 11 ай бұрын
Ive always blended Marshalls and Mesa.. & by any means u use a TC mimic and reverb, it produces the sound of God
@kimseniorb 11 ай бұрын
amps yes - cabs no
@thatguyinaband6341 11 ай бұрын
@@SQstudios_ What I wanna hear!
@MrNightmarium 11 ай бұрын
Having John browne as a guitar player helps a fuck ton too lol...
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
That might be true! 😜 He’s great!
@adamsteelproducer 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for making the video! Putting the course together was a labor of love and I appreciate you 😊
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
🤘🖤🍺
@cameronjohnsonaudio 11 ай бұрын
This was thoroughly enjoyable. Thank you. Purchased the course to get more insight. Lots of cool stuff in there. Took it upon myself to simulate the whole signal path “in the box”, using Reaper. Was certainly a brain exercise. 😂😂
@r3ngokuking 11 ай бұрын
Kinda wild that I've been doing something similar with JCM 800 and a 5150 (plug-ins anyway) and I accidentally got something pretty close to Bolt Thrower's Those Once Loyal tone. Really cool to see the pros doing something that I thought was just me goofing around with weird ideas.
@CellarLakeStudios 11 ай бұрын
Just getting that phase aligned is the biggest takeaway. I like that he uses Reaper. Pretty cool. I'm going to try and see how it visually holds up Logic. To anyone trying to get that 'sound' though..good luck, John Browne is a fucking beast of a player. This is a really cool approach, but It's his playing style and the riffs he writes that shines. Thanks for sharing this guys, especially with those of us who haven't yet drank the Kult Kool-aid. ;) 🤘
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
You’re welcome! And of course it’s always helpful to have a great sounding player!
@miserychannel666 11 ай бұрын
RE: phase alignment .. this works for me. Radial Switchbone V2 + Lehle P split ..
@LorneVignettes 11 ай бұрын
I read somewhere that Adam Jones from Tool would send his guitar signal out through 3 different amps & cabs simultaneously to get such huge guitar tones on his last couple records.
@pipespeeps5349 11 ай бұрын
He does that live mainly, in the studio he mixes all types of amps, sunn beta lead, diezel, marshalls, riviera
@bimmerman5978 11 ай бұрын
Everyone knows in their hearts that this is the way.
@peevee605 11 ай бұрын
The blend sounds killer and the immediate response from the tube amps is something we need in the plugins too. 🙏
@KimboH55 11 ай бұрын
Status Quo always had their guitars going into a Vox and a Marshall together in boxes off stage and used a third line an amp modeller.
@nickm.9474 11 ай бұрын
The band I work for always run two amps live. They both use duel recs and the second amp is a Marshall 1987x and a REVV 120. What a sound!
@jumpbackgeno 6 ай бұрын
This was fun to watch, thanks. Them guys are Innovative masters
@pauljohn5584 11 ай бұрын
Heck yeah this is how I record guitars! I use a POWERED aby going into 2 amps, 2 cabs and usually ribbon and dynamic on each cab. (Different speakers of course) Love this approach do much.
@dropentier377 11 ай бұрын
Amazing video ! Thanks you so much.
@marcpeiron_studio 11 ай бұрын
One of the sickest guitars tones I've recently heard. I will purchase the course :)
@louisburley1597 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been using several amps for the past year in plug-in format. It’s really great when done with several IRs too
@TheTurtleneck64 11 ай бұрын
Biamped bass is fantastic, parallel guitar sounds are yummy. More is usually better when it comes to amps
@Jimijam22 11 ай бұрын
This was really cool! Keep sharing awesome information like this, please!
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
We do this all the time! Best way to get more in depth content is to join Kohle Audio Kult! 😜
@edwardforgione7660 11 ай бұрын
I love videos about Tone and especially when it involves john browne, Great Video well done!!!
@jasonhoudyschell666 11 ай бұрын
You guys are the best!
@LaitoDan 11 ай бұрын
Tue Madsen also used this kind of setup in mixing Meshuggah "The Violent Sleep Of Reason". Sounds great!
@redearthpaul178 11 ай бұрын
Mike hedges did this when recording the manic at preachers. He used 3 - clean, break up and dirty and combined them during mixing in various proportions
@Pedro_MVS_Lima 8 ай бұрын
Great shirt!
@RomanRotten 11 ай бұрын
Combination of the Vintage 30s and the G12H Anniversary delivers a KILLER result! Which I do with my Marshall g12 vintages in 4:12 cab- 2x2 X pattern
@nickolasgough8529 11 ай бұрын
Ingenious! 😆🤘 Very refreshing to see real amps, cabs and mics being used in the traditional fashion. I think amp emulation plugins are excellent tools for writing and tracking demos, but when it comes down to the Final Take, plug in to the Real Deal! 🔥🔥 (That's how I do it anyway!) 🤪
@serginhosena 11 ай бұрын
Super Bock shirt! Nice! 🤘🏻
@kennywood_ 11 ай бұрын
Deadweald Audio! It’s great seeing the Golem. Great Gate!!! DAE also has 1 of the best ODs out there-the Duality DX
@PraiseTheSaw 11 ай бұрын
Super Bock auf deine Videos. As much as I love a gnarly chainsaw, the dirty tree is hands down the best boost out there. Love to see it.
@Shred_Rocket 11 ай бұрын
An observation for a while now is that John found a gold mine in Adam and utilizes every pan and stream and gets the best out of Adam! Respect to Adam!
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
They’re a good team for sure!
@trulyintense6613 10 ай бұрын
Nice!!!!!!
@DJ33 11 ай бұрын
Very cool video. Golem #deadwealdaudio and Dirty Tree #peperspedals so cool to see them used with a great band.
@aheadofmetal 11 ай бұрын
I watched the documentary of Behemoth recording 'The Satanist' and they made a comment that you get some comb filtering recording two amps beside each other... but at that point it really doesn't matter because it just makes things sound more like you were actually standing in the room. Ever since that I just record multiple amps and cabs in my little room and I am pleased with the results.
@atticshadows383 10 ай бұрын
That t-shirt is awesome. 🍺
@carlosalmeida7174 11 ай бұрын
Oh man, beautiful shirt you have there!!🤘💀🤘 Prost🍻
@Mikey__R 11 ай бұрын
You could skip the phase alignment issues in a couple of ways. You could take a line out from the effects send of each amp, mix them, then return to one of the amps. Both preamps playing through one power amp into one speaker. The other option is to record both amps into a pair of Torpedos, blend, then send to a third amp driving a speaker. (Or maybe just use a speaker IR.)
@TonyPepers 11 ай бұрын
Dirty Tree FTW 😺
@the_awful_guitar_player6666 11 ай бұрын
Make me feel like when meshuggah recorded the violent sleep of reason ahahah good stuff !
@guvenckaplan 11 ай бұрын
Btw, love your T-Shirt, Adam!
@rumy6871 11 ай бұрын
Whoa, check that great distance micing.
@drmoshie 11 ай бұрын
Browne you beast!
@IndyRockStar 11 ай бұрын
I use Reaper for quick scratch tracks and working out ideas, but I use Pro tools for all the heavy lifting on the final recordings. Also, Pro tools makes it's lightyears easier to send the mixing/mastering engineer if need be.
@adamsteelproducer 11 ай бұрын
No engineer I’ve worked with actually wants PT sessions, chances are their routing system or plugins don’t match yours so they usually want wave files. So why work harder when you can use the daw that gets you results fastest?
@ayeapprove 11 ай бұрын
Jon Browne doesn't even need real amps, he made Pod XT sound extremely good.
@jab8888 11 ай бұрын
Very good theme.This combination used LINKIN PARK in METEORA FROM 2003 !🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🇪🇦
@CarlosKTCosta 11 ай бұрын
DUUUUUDE!!! Portuguese Beer shirt! Awesome
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
Just spent a week filming a mixing course in a studio in Porto!
@CarlosKTCosta 11 ай бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult makes sense, Super Bock is the Porto beer, if you were in Lisbon it would be Sagres 😂 Can’t wait to see what came out of that week.
@PooNinja 11 ай бұрын
10:20 time alignment awesomeness
@CrushingAxes 11 ай бұрын
Super Bock is very nice! Sabor autêntico! Man Marshall + Boogie is my favourite combination! Sometimes L + R mesa and just a track in the center with less disto using a Marshall!
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
I just spent a super(bock) week in Porto! 🤪
@ProjectVastness 11 ай бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult and you spent it very well. Super Bock + Metal. Best combo 😁
@nicholastotoro7721 11 ай бұрын
A band that recorded using real amps... it feels weird to call that the outlier... 🤣😊
@louderthangod 11 ай бұрын
It’s so crazy that people have stopped doing this. When you’re playing the electric guitar you’re playing the amp just as much. Besides the tone of an amp, they’re also respond differently to your picking dynamics, how heavily you mute a string with your palm, how the strings sustain and ring out together. You lose all of that when re-amping.
@dirtyandnasty9011 11 ай бұрын
@@louderthangod And playing with feedback, which also makes the performance so much more "alive" and "rock n roll". I can't remember so many examples in post 2000 era except Tom Warrior Gabriel Fisher.
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
I also still believe that playing the actual, final tone helps! But that might be just me.
@zeenuf00 11 ай бұрын
Right? Considering most 'metal' these days sounds like EDM.
@Mikey__R 11 ай бұрын
You can record your DI at different points in the signal chain. Most people put the DI first, before even the boost pedal, but you could even put it in the amps effects loop. You'll capture a lot of the interaction between the guitar and the amp, whilst giving yourself a bit of an insurance policy against a bad cab tone or dodgy mic placement. If you've got a Torpedo, you can also record the output of the power amp as well.
@billyhughes9776 11 ай бұрын
"Tight enough for a submitting a demo,....if not for a record." -- lol,...I mean,...how much tighter can you get? Love this method - some work to set up but the results. The cheapo Behringer mixer in the signal path -- very interesting.
@AndriiHryhoriev 11 ай бұрын
It a great idea to have a good beer and listen to metal
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
I fully agree!
@ssmetalrulz 11 ай бұрын
Curious about Kohle Audio Kvlt.. do you have a course on the very basics of mixing and mastering on there that can help a bedroom musician like myself who mostly uses plugins and guitar pedals etc. without getting overwhelmed lol?
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
We have a mastering course with plugins only and we have quite a few “Mixing Rituals” where you can download multitracks, mix the song and watch the mixing tutorial of the original mixer. And there’s basic courses like “drum bus compression” or “EQing snares”. We’re constantly adding more content.
@rnhtube 11 ай бұрын
I didn't know Matt Hardy was so good at guitar
@BrentFarvaFortin 11 ай бұрын
DELETE!
@dirtyandnasty9011 11 ай бұрын
😂
@shapeshvtr 11 ай бұрын
i used this method for a long time, but with vst 😂
@7riXter 11 ай бұрын
0:35 I’ve heard of a band that already did that… was called the Beedles or so
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
Many people have done that. It’s just pretty difficult in a modern high gain context without running into severe phase problems.
@7riXter 11 ай бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult 😅 would be interested in how to run different ampsims on the same di track at the same time… is it comparable to a real dual amp setup?
@dubiousdaydream1695 11 ай бұрын
As I understood from Kohle, 2 distorted guitar amps from the same di usually make a phasy mess. Anyone knows if there was anything else needed to prevent this, besides making sure the mics are the same distance?
@robloyst4514 10 ай бұрын
I’d like to see you do a video on recording real amps at low volumes. Or ISO cabs! (Which I’m sure is gonna sound like crap too lol)
@moustachio334 6 ай бұрын
Alice in Chains blended guitar amps on Dirt. Really cool idea
@andresilvasophisma 11 ай бұрын
Super Bock? I see you've been to Portugal.
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
Just filmed a nice mixing course for Kohle Audio Kult in Porto.
@andresilvasophisma 11 ай бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult Nice!
@nunogui 11 ай бұрын
Super Bock rules..
@philtaylor7040 11 ай бұрын
I have a mesa oversized cab from 2003. I have 2 of the v30s from that cab I kept. I have 2 dv77s 2 k100s. What should I load this cab with and what position top and bottom of cab should I put them in. I play mainly metal music. 7 string and 6 string drop tuned. Thanks. Your channel is awesome
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
I’d go for the DV77s.
@philtaylor7040 11 ай бұрын
So v30 and dv77 mixed together in a x pattern?
@chrishall5176 11 ай бұрын
When mixing speakers I prefer x pattern
@FelipeGruberTV 11 ай бұрын
"The most sexy and evil recording, mixing and mastering academy" Specially sexy... hahaha you're totally right, brotha! Cheers!
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
🤘🖤
@horstplautzbirne3300 11 ай бұрын
why does it make sense getting phase right at the beginning? isnt it the same result to do it later in your daw?
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
Not if you sum in analog like Adam!
@voiceovervandeen 11 ай бұрын
Apart from the principle of "get things right on the way in, rather than fixing it in post" - What differences are there (if any) between moving the mic position to achieve phase alignment V's slipping the track by a few milliseconds?
@adamsteelproducer 11 ай бұрын
You can’t slip the track when blending in analog.
@voiceovervandeen 11 ай бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer Gotcha, thanks 👍
@theomatthaios 11 ай бұрын
I see Monuments I click "like" in trust 😂
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
Haha! Good choice
@progrocker84 11 ай бұрын
Was there any double tracking done here? If no, was the Mimiq pedal used?
@adamsteelproducer 11 ай бұрын
Double tracking yes. But all the mics were folded down into a single “take”
@progrocker84 11 ай бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer thanks for your response. Any reason why you didn't use the Mimiq pedal before or after the split to save time with double tracking? Kohler had a great video which suggests Mimiq may be the way to go from now on.
@MeyerzumMischen 11 ай бұрын
Can't I just put a delay on one track to get proper phase allignement? That's what I did in the past when working with multiple mics. That way I can concentrate on getting the sound I want from a microphone first without thinking about phase and without having to go back and forth between control room and recording room. Or is there a drawback of that compared to adjusting the distance of the mic to the speaker like he did?
@adamsteelproducer 11 ай бұрын
You can’t do that in analog. There’s more to it that you don’t see in this video but getting it right at the source is always the best way
@MeyerzumMischen 11 ай бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer Okay, I didn't think about the summing you're doing with the Behringer mixer before the compression. In that case, it makes complete sense to me because you can't change the microphones' relation to one another anymore after that. Do you do the summing because of the compressor or is there another reason? If there wasn't an analogue compressor in the signal chain and you do the summing in the DAW, one could probably delay it there, right? I'm not advocating against setting up your microphones properly and then "fixing it in post". I'm just wondering about the tradeoff between adjusting the distance of the mic for the correlation's sake and getting the sound out of a microphone that you have in mind (which might need a different distance to the speaker than you'd need for a better phase correlation). I don't want to question your method but rather question the way I've been doing it. 🙃
@nuestudi524 11 ай бұрын
I've got lost when he goes out from the beringer mixer to the compressors and into reaper because later on, we can see that he is recording 5 tracks (DI+4mics). Anyone can clarify?
@adamsteelproducer 11 ай бұрын
There’s a lot of the course not in this video. The last part uses mic splitters so you can compare with files that are included in the course.
@adamsteelproducer 11 ай бұрын
And it’s 6 channels at the end. 4 mics, DI, blended tone
@parmeshgurung 11 ай бұрын
This guy taught me reaper 😅😅
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
Yes, that’s him!
@miked5487 11 ай бұрын
Adam needed a dyna mount for this job
@adamsteelproducer 11 ай бұрын
I’ve got one! Not got three though…
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
I got two! I win! 😂
@DavidMadeira29 11 ай бұрын
Especially for today...
@user-ug3ev7qo4s 11 ай бұрын
he described 4 mics, on 2 amps, i assume for each take, but his overdub was recording onto 6 tracks. so what was getting recorded?
@adamsteelproducer 11 ай бұрын
The overdubs were using a mic splitter so we could get each channel separately for educational purposes, so we could show the sound of each separate mic. When we were recording the single, we didn’t do that and had nothing except a “mixed” track and a DI per side
@RenanBEreanSound 11 ай бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer Hi Adam. After you correct the phases and everything is ready, do you set all 4 mics to center to make all mono in the behringer? thank you so much
@adamsteelproducer 11 ай бұрын
@@RenanBEreanSoundyes they’re all mono on the mixer, although if I wanted to I could pan them left and right to separate the two amps out- depends what you want your final result to be
@RenanBEreanSound 11 ай бұрын
@@adamsteelproducerThanks Adam! Amazing work you guys do
@w1zard0f0h 11 ай бұрын
I think when guitarists say they don't use compressors they mean on the pedal boeard. Amost all guitars are compressed when mixing. At least they should.
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
I’m actually one of the guys that never compress guitars in post! 🤩
@HenritheHorse 11 ай бұрын
Enough volume and fuzz is my compression!
@w1zard0f0h 11 ай бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult You don't compress the final mix? If i'm doing a less distorted guitar I'll add a bus compressor to the guitars. I will use less if it's a distorted guitar. But I always add a compressor to the entire song onced mixed. I guess whatever works and your music sounds great as is so I guess that works for you.
@KohleAudioKult 11 ай бұрын
I was talking about compressing guitars!
@w1zard0f0h 11 ай бұрын
@@HenritheHorse Hey if it works do it I always say. haaa
@LouisLinggandtheBombs 11 ай бұрын
I have DI boxes (of course!) but in 20 years of recording bands in my parisian studio I think that I've almost never used them! My god! If a band is paying to come to a studio, just make it sound fantastic! Why mess around? Just record the best amp in the best way possible. Honestly, it takes a long time to dial in a great sound using VSTs and it never excites the musicians and drives them wild so why bother?
@KohleAudioKult 10 ай бұрын
DI boxes can be useful even when you track with real amps. Either as a backup or as a blend. Either way, it’s smart to record a DI track!
@LouisLinggandtheBombs 10 ай бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult Good advice! Although it's absolutely incredible how damn rarely the DI tracks ever get used for anything. The DI tracks can help with guitar editing just as a visual aid because the transients stick out clearer. Apart from that, they just collect dust in the sessions!
@jloiben12 11 ай бұрын
Since when did “producers and guitar players not being good enough to get the sound right” become a thing that we just accepted? I 100% get beginners not being able to get it right so they send a di to the mix engineer to unfuck their tone. That’s fair. But this video speaks to a much larger group of people than that. Where they want the mix engineer to make production decisions. It is beyond frustrating to deal with as a mix engineer.
@tobins6800 11 ай бұрын
As part of the process. If all 3 are separate, player, producer, engineer, making sure the recorded tone is what the producer will accept, and what the player has in their head. As a player, it is really difficult coming to terms with the difference between in the room tone, recording tone, and live tone. As an engineer, capturing that special sound is difficult enough, but, making the correct adjustments for frequency responses. Having the mixer as part of the recording process makes things easier as far as getting it right at the source.
@vanman118 11 ай бұрын
Instructions unclear lost my tone in the dryer.
@captainconvulsion 2 ай бұрын
Im ao tired of amp plugins 😔
@RyRyTheBassGuy 11 ай бұрын
It's too bad the guitars ended up being pretty muddy in the mix.
@vincent_vega4046 Ай бұрын
It's all nice and dandy, but the engineer has listed a gear worth of close to like half a million dollars. Nobody has that kind of stuff and money laying around at home. Plus most of these are quite niche things, which are hard to come by. Even, if you were a millionaire, obtaining stuff like this would be a challenge. So it is more for educational and trivia purposes. You are not going to recreate something like this at home for sure. The reason why I love plugins is that they are very cheap compared to conventional gear. I love amps, cabinets and all the actual hardware and owned many of those. But even just a decent, mid level amp is around a thousand EUR/USD and that is not hi-end category at all. While a good plugin is 10 times less and it still sounds good enough.
@mattz1686 6 ай бұрын
lol the behringer mixer. $12000 of equipment to get the best possible tone…..into an $80 mixer.
@zizizmer 11 ай бұрын
3:42 Then amp 1 has the dagadaga daga da dagadada thing. And amp 2 has the ROH RWOH RWOH RWOH - Couldn't have said it better myself 🤌
@zerstaerker 11 ай бұрын
Dammit! Is it really that hard to reproduce it in the digital domain? It sounds kinda superior to actual double tracking to my ears, at least for the role of a main rhythm guitar track. Actual double tracking still can play a role for accents and stuff. Hell, I want to do this.
@zeenuf00 11 ай бұрын
Oh my God, they ACTUALLY got their sounds going in? No freakin' way. 😅😅😅😅😅