Kohta vs Pian ● What's The Difference?

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Күн бұрын

I got a request asking me to clarify the difference between the Finnish words: tkohta and pian as they both translate to "soon" in English. So that is what we will go over in this video lesson!
Summary:
- Kohta = soon / in a moment / in a short moment
- Pian = soon (can be used more flexibly, as long as it is soon for YOU)
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0:00-0:34 KIITOS
0:35-1:07 Intro
1:08-1:53 Pian - Pika
1:54-2:16 Pian vs Kohta
2:17-3:16 Example 1
3:17-4:29 Example 2
4:30-5:16 Pian vs Kohta 2
5:17-5:41 Example 3
5:42-6:28 Example 4
6:29-7:10 Thoughts?
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@anniegreen9427 Жыл бұрын

I'm finnish and I feel like "pian" has a somewhat positive tone to it, it sounds almost like a promise where as "kohta" is something you use everyday to thr point where it means nothing. You could tell someone you're gonna do something soon ("kohta") and completely forget aboug it. I feel like "pian" is used to soothe childen when they're impatient. It can be used like "in no time" too.

@vuorimies5791 Ай бұрын

Reading that 'kohta' translates to 'spot' - looked up the definition of 'spot' in Merian-Webster and the 4th meaning is 'a small quantity or amount : BIT' - SO, from that I get that "nähdään kohta" could be the equivalent of 'see you in a bit'! At least that is how I am going to remember it.

@or4n Жыл бұрын

Kohta also has some other meanings. Like spot/place/point/part and so on. ajankohta == point in time Siivoa tuo kohta tuosta == Clean that spot over there Se kohta kirjasta oli tosi hyvä == That part of the book was really good

@KatChatsFinnish Жыл бұрын

Very true!

@hyhhy Жыл бұрын

As a Finnish speaker, I think that "pian" is used much less in spoken Finnish than "kohta". The meaning of "pian" is somewhat vague as Kat said, and that doesn't suit most communication situations in everyday life. However, in an expression such as "nähdään pian" it sounds polite to use "pian", because the vagueness of "pian" lessens the feeling that you're pressuring the other person to do something.

@mayyasycheva9391 Жыл бұрын

kiitos paljon selityksestäsi, Kate!

@totongsergei Жыл бұрын

Been following ur channel for a while. Ur English is so good and easy to understand. R u a Finnish native? Btw learning finnish from ur channel is very helpful. Thx so much and pls keep it up.

@marin_1441 Жыл бұрын

She is native Finn and also Finnish American so her English sounds like American

@samvanasselt3874 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the clear explanation. In Dutch 'nähdään kohta' translates to 'zie je zo'. 'Nähdään pian' can be 'zie je straks' (same day, but not within five or ten minutes) or 'zie je later' (later today, this week, this month, ...)

@KatChatsFinnish Жыл бұрын

Interesting!

@dinugamage1453 9 ай бұрын

Hi I usually watch your videos and can you do a video about explaining using-lla -sta -ssa and also how to write sentences.

@MrBlueFrancois Жыл бұрын

Kiinnostava video 😊 We have the same in French for nähdään pian/kohta We'd say : à tout à l'heure (nähdään kohta, meaning we'll see someone really soon, the same day) - À bientôt (nähdään pian, no idea when just "soon") But I can't find any individual word for kohta, that would be changeable with pian in a sentence

@mekidag4577 Жыл бұрын

Moi I am from Ethiopia I am your student kiitos

@NicolasHusseinMusique Жыл бұрын

In French we can also say "À tout de suite" if it is really soon, like in a few minutes. "Nähdään kohta" can be both "À tout de suite" (right now, in a few minutes) or "À tout à l'heure" (later today), depending on the context.

@henny9214 Жыл бұрын

I only knew pian in "parane pian" thank u for yr new finnish language video !!

@powerpig99 Жыл бұрын

In wiktionary, there are a few other terms as well: heti pitäen, hetkessä, piakkoin, tuota pitkaa...guess they are not as usual as pian and kohta? I also see the other meaning of kohta in the news a lot: location, spot. And it sounds like the meaning of kohta close to "right away", and pian is just soon? I guess all language has something similar, even soon in English can have different meaning depending on the context. In Chinese we have 立刻(right now)，马上(right away)，一会儿(soon, in a moment), etc., but can be exchangeable depend on the situation.

@agnishom Жыл бұрын

When anglophones say "let's catch up soon", they are just politely saying that catching up is the lowest priority thing on their list. It appears that Finns prefer not to have that ambiguity

@watchlearn271 6 ай бұрын

nice dearu

@marin_1441 Жыл бұрын

So in nutshell My mom: When will you clean your room? Me: Pian (which secretly means never) My mom: If you don't clean your room i will throw your stuff? Me: Kohta (within 10 min)

@stinkyboy Жыл бұрын

Pian is pretty stiff and unnatural as a one word response in my opinion. You could use it in a sentence like "Nähdään pian." (=See you soon). The meaning is a little different like she explained in the video. The most natural ways to answer to that question would in my Finnish opinion be "Kohta" or "Ihan just" (=in a minute). You could also say "Ihan kohta"

@elderscrollsswimmer4833 Жыл бұрын

@@stinkyboy Nah. Child: Kohta. Mom: Ei kun nyt. Kohta tends to be something like from this minute to some time next week. Kids may have better luck with more exact terms.

@stinkyboy Жыл бұрын

@@elderscrollsswimmer4833 "Kohta" "Ei kun nyt" "Kohta!" "Nyt!!" "..🙄" Nää on näit lapsiperheiden vakiokeskusteluja lol

@aWildHiker6444 Жыл бұрын

Referring to the first thanks. Sidney is the true star!

@KatChatsFinnish Жыл бұрын

Isn't she :))

@justaname1837 Жыл бұрын

In German there are "gleich" and "bald". Gleich = in a moment, in a minute (something like that) Bald = soon, like in "coming soon..."

@my.lionart Жыл бұрын

That’s what I thought, too! I also thought “kohta” was something like “gleich”

@mekidag4577 Жыл бұрын

Moi I am your student from Ethiopian kiitos

@pscnaxm Жыл бұрын

It's as if you knew what video to put out next haha... Just this week been struggling to use Kohta(recently moved to Finland). Why this word refers to time, and place?! Seen it in context as "Heikko kohta" - weak spot (place). And "siita on kohta vuosi"- it's been almost a year (time). As if finnish wasn't confusing enuff already. How to know, when it translates to what in English? If you could find an answer, that would be awesome :) Tnx

@izzardclips9350 Жыл бұрын

kohta literally means a spot, a place. "Missä kohtaa se on" Where it is (In which spot/place it is) Näytä se kohta kartalta could theoretically mean "show "it" soon on the map", but from the context it would probably usually mans show that spot on the map. There is also a verb kohdata "to meet",, I think it liuterally refers two two parties coming to a same place.

@TotallySlapdash Жыл бұрын

I feel like in english kohta is closer to 'imminently' maybe? Or somewhere inbetween imminently and soon? Kiitos uusista sanoista!

@janus1958 Жыл бұрын

I'd say the equivalent of kohta in English would be "in a moment". As in "see you in a moment" vs "see you soon", or "I'll get to that in moment" vs "I'll get to that soon". "Momentarily" might also work.

@bufordghoons9981 Жыл бұрын

Would one say pikakahvi (instant) or kohtakahvi? In English, the word "jiffy" can be substituted for "pian" as "very soon", which is sooner than "soon".

@stinkyboy Жыл бұрын

Pikakahvi!

@izzardclips9350 Жыл бұрын

@@stinkyboy Pika and related words refer to being fast. There is also a form of pian (not used often in modern language) pikaisesti (in a fast way, very soon), that mean soon. kohta means literally a spot, a place. Missä kohtaa se tapahtui where did it happen, in which spot did it hsppen "tämä kohta kartalla" (this spot on the map" Pika is a commonly used prefix in compound words", kohta can't really be used in them sensibly in them.

@ScarletFoundryTarot Жыл бұрын

It sounds like 'nähdään kohta' would mean " I'll see you in a few!' vs 'See you soon'

@mebrahtusyum1507 Жыл бұрын

Kiitos paljon sina suomi kielin onpin

@stanleybjj Жыл бұрын

❤❤❤❤

@johnfloyd9288 Жыл бұрын

Jee!

@KatChatsFinnish Жыл бұрын

Jippii! :D

@Xydroos Жыл бұрын

I am not sure is it spelling (sound of it), but i think "pian" as stronger than "kohta". or could be simply that i rarely use "kohta"

@Silkroad45 Жыл бұрын

Would kohta kinda translate to "about to" in certain contexts? Like could "Luen tän kirjan loppuun pian" mean "I'm about to finish this book". Or would that be some other Finnish word/words to convey "about to"?

@KatChatsFinnish Жыл бұрын

I think you would use the phrase: aion kohta/pian lukea tän kirjan loppuun. Aikoa means like the intention to do something

@elderscrollsswimmer4833 Жыл бұрын

@@KatChatsFinnish Or,, we have sweet structures: olit lukemaisillasi kirjan loppuun, kun jokin keskeytti lukuhetkesi. Or if you nearly tripped over: olit kompastua. Or, meeting someone after a longish time - et ollut tuntea häntä.

@ashkankirjaa2509 Жыл бұрын

kiitos tästä vidosta . mä pian opin suomen kielin

@andr_sh Жыл бұрын

Could that be that English equivalent for "pian" is "later" whereas "kohta" is just soon?

@NobbyWright Жыл бұрын

See you shortly/see you Anon. 👍

@ibti.k2796 9 ай бұрын

❤️❤️👌👏❤🐕😍

@arusswurm4733 Жыл бұрын

See you soon (Pian) vs see you shortly (Kohta)...?

@SnakkeZz Жыл бұрын

I'd say that's the best way to put it

@Sillilesshells 4 ай бұрын

So maybe kohta is more like “ in a minute”

@luciazoccante9647 Жыл бұрын

Nähdään piian/kohta in Italian is translated "a presto "

@peterbengston7735 Жыл бұрын

Kohta sounds like the equivalent of "shortly".

@stinkyboy Жыл бұрын

Yep, like "In a minute", "In a moment"

@opethrulez25 Жыл бұрын

hyvä selitys👍 mutta, kun soitetaan asiakaspalveluun: "vastaamme puhelusi mahdollisemin *pian*". tässä tapauksessa "pian" tuntuu niinku ei tarvitse oottaa kauan 🤔

@KatChatsFinnish Жыл бұрын

Totta!

@alicjawitek3357 Жыл бұрын

In Polish zaraz = kohta, wkrótce = pian.

@marin_1441 Жыл бұрын

Dude ó get spike on his head lol

@andreballon7362 Жыл бұрын

💙 🤍

@moekaykhine4633 Жыл бұрын

My boyfriend misses My boyfriend misses Katcha.😍❤️💕💋💋

@Lunaholic94 Жыл бұрын

When talking to Finnish youngsters "kohta" means 6 hours...

@marin_1441 Жыл бұрын

Why? Does 6 hrs means something?

@Lunaholic94 Жыл бұрын

@@marin_1441 it was a joke. Because they tend to prolong things. I remember when I was a teen and ie. my mom told me to take the trash out. I usually answered "joo joo kohta" ("yea yea soon...") which usually meant hours. However that usually wasn't a valid answer so she replied "Ei kohta vaan nyt!" ("Not soon but now!")

@rhombicube Жыл бұрын

I'll see you in a mo, vs. see you later ... :)

@ketrovaara 9 ай бұрын

Sinä puhutko venaja

@kasvioppi Жыл бұрын

Ennen videota kielikorvani sanoi että pian on nopeampi mutta video muutti käsitykseni.

@jcpana060959 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. I have two questions. First, in the example sentence vien Sidneyn, what if the n for? and second, I looked up the word kohta in my translators and it has different meaning not none of them show "soon".

@KatChatsFinnish Жыл бұрын

The -n is the minä marker, so you put it at the end of the verb to signify that I'M/MINÄ is doing the action

@KatChatsFinnish Жыл бұрын

And kohta can also mean like "place" - like "tämä kohta kirjassa" - this place/spot in the book, but it also means "soon" so idk why it wouldn't show xD

@jcpana060959 Жыл бұрын

@@KatChatsFinnish thank you for your explanation but i was referring to the n at the end of the name Sidney. I should have been more clear.

@KatChatsFinnish Жыл бұрын

@@jcpana060959 ohh sorry I misunderstood! That is tougher to explain why... but my guess is that because you are doing the action with her? Because to use genetiivi one of the rules was you use it with the word "kanssa" - well here we aren't using the word kanssa, but we are going on the walk with her so maybe that's why? Idk that's the best reason I could think of xD

@jcpana060959 Жыл бұрын

@@KatChatsFinnish thank you. I guess that makes some sense.