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Kokanee, Canoe, and Tyler Too! Paddling for Kokanee
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Paddling kayaks and canoes offers the most cost effective way to get out on the water and target Kokanee. However, paddling presents its own unique set of challenges to overcome especially when targeting Kokanee at depth. In this video I target Kokanee from my @OldTownCanoeKayak Sportsman's Discovery 119 in late summer catch fish at 30-40' deep.
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@dailybaglimit Жыл бұрын
This is a really great video. I enjoy many of your videos, but I especially liked seeing a paddling while trolling video. I also find your Kokanee jigging video especially interesting. Not too many paddle trolling or Koke jigging videos to be found on the internet. Thanks for the cool content. Very informative.
@tylerkellismith 5 ай бұрын
Some please explain to me why Tyler doesn't have more subscribers! One of the very best channels on KZfaq
@michaelchun4285 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't thinking about fishing but this video gave me motivation to go out for a bit before work. Thanks Tyler :)
@s33dub3 4 ай бұрын
My tip on 2 rod fishing in a paddle kayak- when you hook up, flip the rod with the fish the the other side before reeling it in.. That way when the kayak twists you won’t tangle the lines. That being said, you can only do this in deep lakes as your other rig will sink immediately
@waynecollins7929 2 жыл бұрын
Nice fish , no easy task paddling and trolling, thanks for the demonstration
@Jeff84004 2 жыл бұрын
I have a cabelas advanced angler 120 that I put a down rigger on. It is a paddle kayak, but I’ve figured out how to still paddle while I’m taking care of business. It’s totally doable but I’m usually fishing over pretty deep water at flaming gorge and strawberry res so I just make sure I don’t have too much line out so I don’t get snagged on the bottom. Fish with two lines in the water all the time. Totally doable. Great vid! Thanks!!!
@jefflewis6589 2 жыл бұрын
Love this video! I have a sit in kayak that I have been paddling and got really discouraged last time I was out but some of these tips seem like they will help with some of the issues I was having…thanks for the great content!
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
That's great Jeff! Let me know how you do next outing.
@algomaspur 2 жыл бұрын
For a bit I thought you might tip-a-canoe. Sorry, couldn't resist. Love the title of the video!
@TheFlyerBill 2 жыл бұрын
I own a old town solo 119 as well. I got it one year ago after watching your channel. It can be challenging at times but today I landed 8 Kokanee. Sockeye fishing has been productive as well. Much thanks for always inspiring me to get after it!
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@jacobmahoney6764 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting to see if you were making some content from this day, I was the little green boat out there with my son! Nice to see you in action!
@kyleoden3015 2 жыл бұрын
I was really interested in this canoe. I'll bet it paddles way better then a standard kayak.
@TwoStageTrigger 2 жыл бұрын
I just got my old town sportsman 120 pdl. And I love it. Took it up and got some salmon already. It's definitely an upgrade from my Lifetime tamarack angler. Paddling around for 3-7 hours makes your arms pretty sore. The worst part about paddling for kokanee is that you lose all your momentum while reeling in your fish, and then have to set up and get back up to speed. No other pole would also get tangled so I'd often have to reel in bot rods each time I caught a fish to make sure they weren't tangled.
@differentfins 2 жыл бұрын
I've had that exact kayak for 2 summers now and I still love it! The main reason why I got the pedal drive is so I could fish hands free and not lose momentum. We dont have Kokanee salmon where I live but I got a couple chinook salmon trolling with the Old Town in Lake Superior 3 days ago.
@rickysimmonds2681 2 жыл бұрын
Love my velocity those rods make small kokanee a blast
@pasichnyk 2 жыл бұрын
I use Okuma Cold Water low profile reels, and have put the clicker on and then adjust the spool tension (not the normal drag) so that it slowly release line when I'm moving at 1.5mph (on my pedal kayak, but same would work with paddle). Since the clicker is on, I can hear if it starts deploying too fast or stops, and adjust or pull line by hand, where without the clicker you're missing that audible cue. Works well when deploying droppers for me, maybe some of you too. :)
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I’ve done that too but I also think clickers are the voice of Satan. 👹
@pasichnyk 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiltmilt haha yeah, they are annoying, but I still use them a ton for droppers, one handed downrigger dropping, etc. Need a click-less clicker :P
@Carlb328 Жыл бұрын
That boat looks sweet.
@chriszuccato5164 3 ай бұрын
Using Offshore Tackle planer boards can help you fish two rods while paddling also because they hold your lines away from the boat and function like a float when you stop so your gear doesn't go to the bottom.
@spiltmilt 3 ай бұрын
To a point but you still have to let out enough line and lead to hit a target depth so it might work over extremely deep water but then you have to put up with unclipping the planer boards and you can't use as limber a rod.
@chriszuccato5164 3 ай бұрын
That’s true, I don’t do it much because I have a boat and most of the time I have other guys fishing with me, but when I go alone I enjoy the kayak. I’ve also only done it when fish are in the top 30 ft or so, so I do have to use a lot of weight. I’ll run 20ft out to the sides and rarely farther than 60ft behind the board. It works very well under those circumstances, but getting the board off is when most fish are lost.
@ShenpaiWasTaken 2 жыл бұрын
I like turning on my clicker to deploy my gear! With enough weight (around 3 oz) it slowly auto deploys but also allows you to strip line out between paddle strokes as well. Those are some monster kokanee! When do they start spawning / when is the kokanee season over for you? I was talking with someone earlier who said the kokanee may be spawning earlier due to the heat; we were only catching relatively small kokanee.
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
Spawning time varies by lake and genetic strain. These will spawn in late Sept or October other lakes around go as early as August and as late as November.
@reapergrim76 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@hectorhinojosa5168 2 жыл бұрын
I don't kayak in any raft because of the ski boats that give of the huge wave. I bass fish & have a bass boat & them ski boat shoot waves that go over the front end of my bass boat. So I can only imagine what it would feel in a yak! I would for maybe a smaller lake that wouldn't allow them ski boats. But I would for sure add stabilizers to my yak if I do purchase one.
@differentfins 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the speed boats and wave runners can be annoying if not dangerous. Fortunately where I live in Canada we have more lakes than people so I am used to having a lake all to myself. I went out on Lake Superior 3 days ago and I fished 7 hours and didnt see another watercraft on the water the whole day! Cheers
@adamsnyder9347 2 жыл бұрын
I was planning to outfit my Old Town Stillwater 12 for Kokanee trolling when I found a screaming deal on a PDL kayak. I think a downrigger with weighted stacker rigs would be pretty doable while paddling. Downrigger could be deployed while paddling intermittently to stay on course, get some ground speed to establish your setback, then clip into the dropper rig and get back to trolling.
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
I bet you would lose a lot of fish on the downrigger line itself.
@adamsnyder9347 2 жыл бұрын
I thought about how to drop the gear, but not how to bring the fish back lol. Maybe initiate a turn toward the downrigger side so that hopefully you end up bringing the fish back over the other end of the boat.
@differentfins 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried Dipsy Divers? They would work for trolling deep. Not sure how deep you fish for salmon but those divers pull down 30 feet or more and then release after a fish hits so there is no resistance.
@Pianosa77 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is a video about the canoe but, I wonder if you find that Kokanee this time of year are located closer to the mouth of the river they spawn in? I think I'm headed to Anderson ranch at the end of August right as they are starting to run. Crazy? Nice video earlier this year at Anderson by the way that was a treat.
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
They will stage near their spawning areas
@taylorstassens9834 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried snagging kokanee, not sure if it's legal in Washington? A couple more weeks here in northwest Montana and the season opens, 20 limit. They are spawned out so it's just another way to utilize a resource. Great for smoking and canning and great fun, it's harder than it sounds to get them.
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
I've never participated in snagging. It's illegal here. I remember catching and trying to eat a spawner Kokanee in Colorado. I didn't enjoy it.
@taylorstassens9834 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiltmilt yeah, they are more or less not fresh eating fish. More of the processing types, we enjoy smoking and vacuum sealingfreezing them for dips and salads, things like that, also good in tacos
@practicedm 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. You catch a lot of Kokanee. I was curious as to the recommendation for eating those fish? How often? I have seen different tables on what fish to eat how often because mercury or whatever. How often do you eat those fish?
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
The lakes I Kokanee fish don't have mercury warnings but I know several lakes that do. I don't fish those lakes.
@larryhuman5824 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Milt! I learn something from every post. How far into the summer can we go before spawn?
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on the lake and genetics varies from August to November
@norgeteran4803 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Tyler, great vid as always. Here is a question for you. I noticed you like using the clip weights versus instant downrigger. Any particular reason?
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
I find the clips to be easier to use
@danielgc1970 2 күн бұрын
Quick question on your depth. You're back a total of 92' it sounds like and averaging 1.5 mph. That puts you down about 40'? Appreciate the video!
@ronsimpson8271 2 жыл бұрын
I have been told fish can't pass corn so it stays in there belly until the fish eventually dies from infection.???
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
A myth
@kenwanless4533 2 жыл бұрын
Ami correct that you are using a downrigger clip for your weight ? Hadn’t thought of doing that.
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
It's similar but the same. It had a small button on the inside to prevent it from slipping off. Link in the description.
@kenwanless4533 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiltmilt aha. I ordered some . Any leader or just hook to the ring?
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
Unless trolling in a snaggy area I just put the weight directly on the ring
@kenwanless4533 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiltmilt thanks as always for all of your advice.
@Rando-h9d 2 жыл бұрын
Tyler have you ever tried circle hooks for Kokanee ? I use Gamakatsu octopus circle hooks and it has increased my catch rate. I’d like to see you do a comparison.
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
I don't imagine circle hooks being very effective on Kokanee. They are designed for fish that swallow food not swipe at it
@Rando-h9d 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiltmilt Give it a try , it’s only a few hooks .
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve tried them in the past for chinook and steelhead and they sucked. Same application
@IREFUSE9 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to troll with 2 in a tandem paddle kayak like Aquaglide Chelan 15.5?
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Sidra and I have trolled in tandem paddles many times. It's actually much easier because one person can paddle and the other can focus on fishing.
@IREFUSE9 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Is there any tips on rod management for the front paddler? BTW, thanks so much for all the amazing videos posted, you have provided so much valuable information to help be successful. I’m in British Columbia, and am new to Kokanee fishing, hence my interest in your videos.
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
On our old tandem we installed vertical rod tubes just behind the front paddler's seat so they reach them
@ElliottMorris 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, as always. I fish from a boat, but I still enjoy watching this sort of video from you. I was going to fish this lake today, three days after you posted the video, but life got in the way. It sounds like you were off the water before the pleasure boaters descended on the lake - do you find yourself fishing that lake at all when the pleasure boaters are zipping around?
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
No I generally leave because it appears mostly idiots enjoy driving those kinds of boats and I enjoy being alive
@ElliottMorris 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiltmilt 😂
@UcranianoUKR 2 жыл бұрын
How are you able to take off the weight so quickly? What kind of clip are you using?
@stingray4540 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure it’s on a clip, just squeeze and it comes off. Look up snap weights.
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
Yes check the links in the description. You just squeeze and it releases
@UcranianoUKR 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiltmilt thanks! I ordered some to try
@ryanclark1841 2 жыл бұрын
What brand and size net are you using tyler?
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
18"x18" ranger net with rubber coated nylon.
@tb378 2 жыл бұрын
What net do you use?
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
Its a custom from Ranger nets but I recommend this one for Kokanee amzn.to/3PoQ3sv
@tb378 2 жыл бұрын
@@spiltmilt awesome thank you
@mikechiurato8468 2 жыл бұрын
what type of seat do you prefer in the canoe? you look comfortable
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
This one comes with a molded in seat. Its very comfortable on the back but I plan on adding some cushion on the bottom to make it a bit more comfortable. I use these Skwoosh gel pads for both me and my wife amzn.to/3QylfXV
@kyleoden3015 2 жыл бұрын
Is that the original max dlc or a newer model?
@spiltmilt 2 жыл бұрын
Original Max DLC
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