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In Konami's defense, you can't program a pachinko machine to use mouse & keyboard and that's the only engineers and software designers they have left.

The Twin Snakes thing is actually a licensing issue. Nintendo helped fund development of the game and Miyamoto's name is even in the intro credits.

When the emulation community does a better job than the videogame company you used to look up to. Seriously, how embarrassing for Konami to do a shoddy, minimal job and expect their fans to shell full price for not even a barebones port. I totally agree that this kind of behavior must not be rewarded.

The only reason why I want to see the MGS collection V1 succeed is because I want to see V2 release, and hopefully bring MGS4 to PC, along with PSP titles, and maybe even Ghost Babel without having to worry about slipshod emulation issues or other such.

Correction, they made Snakes Revenge COMPLETELY without telling Kojima and one day while in the train home a dev working on a completely different project asked him why he wasn't working on the Metal Gear sequel. He said, "Dafuq (roughly)", went home and write the story for Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake the same night, presented it the next morning and was greenlit by end of day.

Watching this Video kinda gives me Nostalgia! Muta talking about classic games and their flaws with them stripper lights on again feels so familiar

“If you don’t have a gaming PC and only play consoles, this may be worth it for you.” That’s like, 95% of their market. 99.999% if you also include people who don’t want to deal with janky emulation.

I appreciate the heads up but this collection includes -Several different versions of MGS1 like the base game AND Integral -Comprehensive brand new Guidebooks for every game full of lore, easter eggs, and gameplay tips -A digital soundtrack -The literal word for word Screenplay Script for every game -Motion Comic Movies -And finally bug/gameplay/graphical fixes compared to the HD Collection on PS3 I’m not Konami’s guardian or anything but at least lay out why this collection is $59.99 USD

as a yugioh player, ive been getting scammed by Konami half my life

As a yugioh player for 20+ years I can confirm. KONAMI be scamming left and right.

I can’t WAIT to see your MGS2 video. MGS2 is the ONE game in the ENTIRE series I have a pretty divisive relationship with. I remember being SOMEWHAT DISAPPOINTED with it when I first played it because the story went completely over my 13-year-old head but NOW, it’s INCREDIBLE TO ME how on-point it was about the digital proliferation of information. Despite that initial disappointment, it was still one of the most incredible games I ever played and it’s still the sole MGS entry I’ve REPLAYED MORE than any other one.

I'm about a year into learning game dev, and realizing just how many workarounds there are to frame limiting functionality in games now, it just begs the question, why are companies re-releasing old games like this? It's simple, because they can't be bothered to remake it themselves, and won't release the license to studios that will.

No one is getting more scammed by Konami than Yugioh players. Gamers would be horrified if they were monetized the way yugioh players are monetized

I would have never expected this from Konami! They have such a flawless record!

This makes me so sad cause I met David Hayter (the voice for Solid Snake and he autographed my PS2 copy of MGS2) and talking to him made me love the franchise even more but now Konami is pulling this crap.

Honestly as long as they fucking work I’ll give them a standing ovation. what used to be the bare minimum is now a herculean feat. Battlebit launching and just working blew my mind being a long time battlefield fan.

Let's be real, every company is scamming you.

1. The collection is only $60, not $80 like he kept saying. 2. He assumes you have a gaming PC, that your PC is strong enough to flawlessly handle PS3 emulation, that you can source/rip all the games, and that you WANT to fumble around with menus in 3 or 4 separate emulators to get the games to run properly. 3. 4K wasn't mainstream until after the final game of the series dropped in 2015, so why does it matter that the games' resolutions are at 1080p? The newest game featured here was originally released in 2004, THREE console generations ago. 4. These games are ancient and the point of the collection is to preserve the games and have them available on (more) modern hardware. If you want 4K, 120fps Metal Gear, get the remake when it drops.

People were perplexed that The Twin Snakes wasn't included in the PS3 collection over a decade ago. The Twin Snakes has never been remastered or re-released anywhere beyond the GameCube. There has to be some legal issue preventing it, maybe tied to the issues Silicone Nights had over the years.

A warning about playing MGS3 on RPCS3 emulator. While for the most part it did run fine for me, Ponizovje South and the final boss tanked my frame rate. I was playing on i9-9900k and it slowed to a crawl when it got to those parts. I believe turning on the Asynchronous texture streaming under additional settings on the GPU tab made things a bit better for finishing final boss.There were also some small graphical issues but it didn't bother me that much.

At this point, Konami has lowered expectations so much that if they release anything that isn’t a pachinko machine, it’s bound to be met with applause

It's honestly sad how well respected gaming companies like Blizzard fell off within the last few years but Konami is something else bro.

I would just say, "Duh and/or hello!" to Konami scamming you but it does feel like we need to keep drilling to that into people's heads, especially the younger generation.

Having Twin Snakes in the new master collection would make it worthwhile.

Of course, as a Yu-Gi-Oh player , being scammed by Konami is a regular happening, can’t wait to get nothing out of AGOV.

The reason why they haven't bundle twin Snakes into the collection is because the two human Developers known as Silicone Knights Studios. They got sued Into the ground by Epic Games a couple of years back.

The PS2 controller had pressure sensitive buttons, which where incorporated into the gameplay in MGS2/3 (ie you could point your gun at someone and then lower it again by applying the right amount of pressure to ◾), none of the HD releases since have had this and it drives me crazy!

Man, MGS 3 Snake eater was my favorite. Not only of the franchise, but one of my favorite games of all time, period. It’s just a timeless masterpiece. Back when I was first playing it, I was so immersed, involved and invested in it that it was unreal. The gameplay, the looks, and man the STORY hit me in the *feels* so hard. Funny that you mentioned the monkey minigame, as I remember playing it and being like wtf is Ape Escape doing here? I still have my PS2 with Snake Eater and my old memory card. I mostly use it to play that, or Disgaea Hour of Darkness, farming n’ maxing the perfect super robo suits in item world, collecting that delicious hyperdrive at the end and transmigrating my already insane characters that can take a dump on maxed Uber Prinny Baal _with_ his gear on. Sadly my Ape Escape disk doesn’t work, which is sad because I absolutely LOVED that game and I’m pretty sure I still have the save file.

the issue is corporate logic also playing into this. if the collection fails, Konami may decide "people don't like the franchise anymore".

Some people just don't like emulating Mutahar. Sure the collection isn't exactly definitive or premium but the truth is they're being officially preserved and that's better than having the games rot away on old consoles not accessible to modern audiences. Most people don't want to jump through 1000 hoops to emulate games from 20 years ago, which stops games as incredible as the Metal Gear Solid series from being passed on to new audiences for them to enjoy. The collection isn't the best way to play these games, but it's a method nonetheless, and I'm glad it exists.

I think the reason why Twin Snakes wasn't included is because Konami likely didn't think purchasing the rights from Nintendo would be worth it considering how it's generally considered to be an overall worse version of the original by the fanbase. That said, good video. I was thinking of passing on this one and this only reaffirms my decision. Probably only gonna get Volume 2 if it actually has MGS4, because that's the only game in the MGS series I haven't managed to play. Addendum: A point in MGS2 Substance PC's favor: there's currently a mod called "The Substance of Subsistence" that adds in the free camera from MGS3 Subsistence to it, built completely from scratch, to give you yet another way to play MGS2.

It's very sad to see Kojima's own games getting sold without him being in the company

the issue with emulating MGS2 and 3 is that the playstation versions of those games rely on the pressure sensitive playstation face buttons. It's why when you hold square with a rifle equipped it auto sprays bullets. You're supposed to just rest your thumb on the square button, and that lets you aim without firing, which isn't possible on xbox controllers or playstation controllers after the PS3.

You know its serious when Muta is covered in blood

Also taught us about the rise of AI, the rise of PMC’s and a war based economy.. and even how to manage a PMC company

Emulation is always going to be a viable, and usually better, way to play older games but I'm not going to knock having more ports of older games either. Both options can and should co-exist. If one way isn't for you, then you have another way to play.

correction. The thing that disgusted Kojima was the NES port of metal gear 1. Kojima approved of Snake's Revenge and it led him to make MG2 and beyond

One time I was at a hard rock casino in Florida, and many of the machines there had “Konami” brand labels on them. When I saw this, I recalled the story of how Konami fired Hideo Kojima because they favored releasing gambling cash grab games on mobile devices over expensive playable narratives like the metal gear solid series, or what silent hill was supposed to be until it was inevitably cancelled. I can’t help but wonder if Konami is owned by yakuza at this point, since the yakuza was founded on running gambling rackets hundreds of years ago and still do it to this day.

Also, the ps2 controller had pressure sensative face buttons which were actually implemented in a quite an important way in mgs 2 and 3, which essentially makes it impossible to play unless you've got a controller that can do that. Otherwise have fun not being able to aim your gun without HAVING to shoot

I think the collection is a pretty nice package even on Switch, because the ports don't have stretched HUDS in widescreen (which irk me) They even rectified a couple GFX errors from bluepoint's original remasters. The extras are extensive, and well in the case of MGS1; The Twin Snakes has a divisive reaction from the community anyway and is not an outright replacement for the MGS1 experience, just because you can't see Snake's crusty 240p face texture in HD doesn't really mean it's a scam. Konami has been upfront with all the details across platforms and I like that they're doing this and bringing it to platforms we can't play it on.

Its easy to remember when MGS2 was released. They deleted scenes leading up to the last boss because 9/11 happened, and the scenes showed part of new york getting destroyed by arsenal, which they deemed disrespectful. The release date was already close by so they didn't have time to replace the scenes, so that part of the game seems out of place, like "how did we end up here?"

Video Game Companies seem more intent on selling scams than actual games these days.

Dude consistently has the worst imaginable takes but everyone treats him like a god because haha funni commentary channel

One thing you forgot to mention is that for these older MGS games, you need a dualshock 3 with pressure sensitive buttons to be able to use some of the mechanics such as aiming without firing, CQC/grappling, grenade throws just to name a few. Especially MGS2 and MGS3 as they rely heavily on the ps2/ps3 pressure sensitive buttons. AFAIK peace walker and MGS4, you can play with a dualsense and still have a great time because they didn't rely on them as much or at all. Would love to see your solution to this as I noticed you generally use a dualsense when emulating

Konami and scamming. I hear the two things go together rather well

Great video, but when emulating MGS 2 and 3, one of the ways that wasn’t mentioned was through M1 Macs on AetherSX2. This emulator runs both games natively extremely well on base model M1 MacBook Air (1440p 60 FPS), and as someone who’s looking for stuff to do in-between college lectures, it’s awesome to pull out at any time. Mac isn’t really used for gaming all that much, but it’s worth noting as an extremely viable option for playing the series.

Honestly, I'm mostly curious how are they gonna handle the pressure sensitive buttons like for lowering the weapons withouth firing and CQC stuff. I know that PCSX2 has a modifyer to hallf press buttons, but im curious to see how they do it here.

At this point, Muta is the only news source I really trust

Sidenote: it's so weird that footage from the most important wars in modern history that happened so long ago still have licensing issues

I love Muta's gameplay, he had to include falling while trying to dodge roll down stairs, we've all done it😂😂😂

how do you deal with the pressure sensitive controls? or do you do strictly keys?

I remember playing the NES game as a kid. Best game about punching dogs 10/10.

As a rhythm game fan, I'd be getting scammed by Dance Dance Revolution GRAND PRIX's and Beatmania IIDX Infinitas's monthly subscription and seperate DLC costs if they weren't online-only games that are region-locked outside Japan and require Konami's proprietary arcade currency to pay for. Instead, I'm just getting scammed by Round 1 arcade costs.

I don't really see how this is a scam. I mean, yeah, no keyboard/mouse support sucks. The price is pretty steep. I don't care about 4k but i guess the option for it would be nice. But other than that this seems like a bare minimum collection. Nothing offensive. Also as someone who emulates frequently, I can say that emulation can be a pain in the ass, so it isn't a catch all solution for everyone.

Hey Muta, just wondering any chance of sharing suggested configurations for the various emulators?

While Muta brings up great points here the tragic thing is that unfortunately not everyone has a good enough or even a PC at all and will have to settle for Konami's collection or waste a lot of money buying multiple old consoles and games

The main reason I wanted this collection was for all the bonus artwork and guides that come with it... But I'll prob just wait for a steep discount.

How’d you get the pc version of mgs running? I’ve been trying for a year with no success on Linux

"Before you start reaching for scissors, 61" ahhh when I first played mgs2 the colonel glitching out freaked me out so much. It didn't help that I was running through that part of the game in the middle of the night Dx

I’m pretty sure Twin Snakes is being saved for another volume of the collection. I saw a video preview that showed off the master book for MGS1 in the collection and it had a section talking about Twin Snakes with a screenshot of the game shown that was in widescreen. Twin Snakes was never in widescreen on GameCube so this would have to be a screenshot for an upcoming port that has widescreen implemented like with the HD versions of MGS2 and MGS3.

It blows my mind that anyone would willingly pay $60 for these. Original versions are so abundant that you can get all of them for about half the price of this collection.

i gotta ps2 emulator on my computer, i know i can get 2 & 3 but could i hypothetically get the original mgs or am i gonna hafta find twin snakes? (i don’t know computer stuff i get my bf to do it)

the actual advantage of playing the PS3 HD collection are the upscaled textures and redrawn HUD elements make it look crisp and clean, and i'm hoping this is a change they're willing to port over..

Twin snakes is definitely a licensing issue

I thought this was going to be about Silent Hill, then I thought it was going to be about Yu-Gi-Oh’s recent product flops. Konami really does have a track record on shooting themselves in the foot

My only issue with not buying the collection would be that Konami may go "oh, the collection isn't selling, guess we shouldn't release Volume 2 with Metal Gear Solid 4 then" as while you do make a good point that, yeah emulating can be the way to go, it's not like everyone has a 4000 or even 3000 series graphics card that can run the PS3 emulator easily (the emulator says it recommends a 660 at the very least, but obviously the bare minimum will return with the bare minimum playability, while Steam put out a 980 is the "recommended" hardware, so it *should* play well on even low end GPUs... if Konami isn't lying) But besides that, most casual people wanting to try/play the games won't go through the hoops of setting up an emulator, let alone have the copies to backup and play (as can't say to pirate the game, especially when a new version is "coming soon" and it feels like people say "just pirate it, the games aren't available anymore anyways" and then when a developer does come out with it, people advocate to pirate anyways) Could the games be at a cheaper price due to being 20'ish year old games now? Sure. But we are also coming from a time where games are being remade/ported and still being charged $60 at the end of the day. Not to mention, I don't see much modding occurring on games that are emulated unless they are Nintendo games. It'd be a bit neat if the collection got people to mod the games now since it will be more readily available. (more people know about Steam than GOG... sadly...) This is coming from someone that even owns Twin Snakes so it doesn't bother me as much personally, but I see why people would still get it. (... and while I like TS's control and camera scheme more, I hate that they literally took out the main alert theme from the game, replacing it with less exciting themes... there are more songs, but they just don't have the same feeling to them)

Muta cutting it close with that “Metur Gear Solid” at 1:22

I know it sucks but I’m going to get it. I want all the games on one system since I don’t have a huge option.

Honestly it comes down to it being easily accessible on steam. You’re 100% getting scammed on console because they’ve had better re-releases. But on pc unless I run some emulator or something it’s just too much setup when I can just hit play on steam. Mods will fix everything else later on

4:32 oddly enough same goes for dialogue audio in Silent Hill apparently

Man, the soundtrack to this game alone is astounding. Fantastic game series.

Expecting the Twin Snakes version of MGS1? Dog, not only it's a terrible remake, but also Nintendo would never allow Konami to happen, because we all know how Nintendo handles their property

The remastered PS3 collection is still easy to find in America and I believe I got it for $20 online around 4-5 years ago, It includes almost every game short of Portable Ops (including the original 2 Metal Gears I believe) up to Guns of the Patriots. It's Konami though so not surprising at all they would do this.

I could watch Muta talking about emulation all day, every day

The problem with emulating is if I run into a single issue or glitch, I stop playing. If it doesn’t match exactly or is improved, I don’t want to touch it.

Kojima was on a train ride and a coworker from Konami told him about it. He was surprised that Konami (not just the American branch) greenlit a MGS2 without his knowledgement. When he played it he was disappointed (like any father would be) and went to make a apporitat sequel to MGS. This is when the cone view was added, new ways to sneak, a new inventory system, and the codex.

Currently emulating Persona 3 FES before the Remake comes out and there's a fan patch practically almost done with rendering the pre-render portraits and the such with smoother looks. Making the closest 4k experience you could get for Persona 3.

Why does muta look like he got done killing his mother base staff to prevent a virus from spreading😰😰😰

Meanwhile, Sonic Adventure 2 which came out around the same time has been on PC for like 10 years, only costs $10, plays at 4K/60, and even has keyboard controls for some reason

I'm ready for the 6 hour unhinged MGS2 video.

I dont mind the lack of keyboard and mouse support. I was about to drop some money on a controller with pressure sensitive buttons anyway because I wanted to emulate mgs2 and 3 and setting up kbm for that is a pain. I do wish Twin Snakes was included especially for the price tag :(

I wonder how they solved the pressure sensitive buttons of the PS2/PS3 for MGS 2 and 3. I have a feeling they haven't thought about this at all, making it very difficult to properly shoot or pull off an of the cqc stuff

The one thing this collection offers over emulation for me is the potential of modding the games. Imma hold of for a while before I buy anything though.

Muta failed to point out that the PS2 and 3 versions of MGS3 have basically unplayable controls regarding CQC because of the pressure sensitive function with older controllers. If you want to emulate MGS3, the best way to do it is with Xenia Canary.

ladies and gentlemen, give this guy anything and he'll find a way to complain about it. ladies and gentlemen, it is a dark day in gaming history. thats it thanks ladies and gentlemen.

Does it fix the analog button issues?

One thing to note about emulation of MGS 2 and 3. Both rely on pressure sensitive face buttons on both PS2 and 3. The 360 had a separate button mapping. This essentially means that you can no longer pre aim automatic weapons and in mgs3 you can no longer hostage grab enemies and interrorage them before knocking them out. You just slit their throat. That being said there are workarounds such as remapping a pressure toggle button. But its not convenient regardless.

I have an effective technique called: "Pirate everything you can and don't actually buy anything" that prevents me from being scammed by these game developers, it have been working kinda well for the last 20 years.

I guess you could use the new FSR3 To generate some frames, for it to look like its running more than 30fps, without you running the game at twice the speed.

11:38 are they still making copies? They still in stock? And where do you find these things?

I gotta ask, given I've been looking to double check the price of the Legacy Collection... I'm seeing Amazon listings for $120-$140 new, and eBay listings for about $80 new... I just have to ask, where is the $40 listing price being mentioned in the video?

Sad seeing konami go the route they did, i loved mgs as a kid

Minor correction worth adding about the MGS1 remake from gamecube: there are publishing issues with Nintendo, similar in vein to how some Soulsborne titles are controlled by Sony rather than Bandaiscamco. Basically in order to get the Twin Snakes remake ported or re-released, Nintendo would be involved and iirc they would also get lots of money out of that. I'm sure someone else is more aware of what the actual deal is

It says only vol 1 needs a controller?

I'm still thinking of getting this collection... I only have a PS1, PS2, I used to have a Xbox 360, my brother has a GameCube and we both have PCs.... So, the only way I can play this, is on PC because we don't have any of the old TVs anymore or have any converters and most of the disks are scratched or broken (thanks bro) . I have an old PC though... AMD Radeon RX 480,16GB RAM, Intel Core i7 6700K.

I wish Muta acted this way towards CDproject instead of riding them day and night.

I don’t care if this collection does poorly. I just want Konami to someday make MGS4 playable. Though I doubt they will take the time to remaster it digitally

You also forgot to mention the Metal Gear Portable Ops. While it may not be on par with other MGS games, it was a good time and it took part after the events of MGS3 and I honestly liked the story better than Peace Walker.

I can't believe Konami is the company that once released Metal Gear Solid 2 and Silent Hill 2 within months of each other. This is how they are now. Wow.