"Kill a thousand men and they will hate you. Kill a million men and they will queue to face you. But kill a single man and they will see monsters and devils in every shadow. Kill a dozen men and they will scream and wail in the night, and they shall feel not hatred, but fear." - Konrad Curze, Primarch of the Night Lords An epic quote by one of my favuorite...secretly, i hope that he will be able to revive....i think is a quite interesting and so tormented to die so easily. I hitted the bell, Remembrancer, i ' ll wait here!

*Megatron:* _"Peace through Tyranny."_ *Konrad Curze:* _"Hold my Amasec..."_

_‘We followed similar paths. We should have had so much in common, and yet Corax always hated me. He thought I was barbaric, cruel. Him! The noble freedom fighter who incinerated untold thousands in atomic fire to secure his great moral victory. He understood the value of atrocity well enough, even if he pretended not to.’_ Curze shook his head and laughed. _‘You see, that’s what I don’t understand. Why did you breed such a clutch of hypocrites?’_ He wrapped long, bony arms around his knees, and pressed his face into them. _‘I’ll tell you something else,’_ said Curze. _‘I hated him, too. You might think I hated all my brothers. I didn’t. They were the ones that hated me. I could not hate them back. Most of them I could tolerate, a few I respected. A couple I loved, though they never returned the affection. But I hated Corax.’_ He looked aside in shame and spoke to the wall. _‘I hated him so much. ‘I didn’t hate him for being like me, nor for being better, though if he and I were two aspects of the same principle, he was the better one. Everything about us was so similar, to your design,’_ Curze said significantly. _‘Was he not born into awful straits? Was he not victimised? Oppressed? But he did not murder like I did. He used passion and argument where I used blood. I hated myself for not being like him, but I couldn’t despise someone for being what I was not. Why would I hate him for any of those things?’_ He looked back at the statue and cleared his throat theatrically. _‘Was it that he failed like I did to fully tame his world, meekly handing it over to the Mechanicum? Did I hate him because he was weak?’_ He pressed his face hard into his updrawn knee. _‘I couldn’t hate him for that, either.’_ He sneered, gnawing at his skin until blood ran. _‘I’ll tell you why. Envy of his mastery lay behind my hatred. I haunted the night, but Corax owned it.’_ Breath hissed through dagger teeth. _‘He owned it. My stupid, short-sighted sons thought the Ravens’ abilities came from technology given only to the Nineteenth. I saw it was innate. Imagine what I could have done had you given the same gifts to me? How much more perfect a monster I would have been had the shadows loved me as much as they loved Corax!’_ - Konrad Curze, the Night Haunter, Primarch of the Night Lords

He MUST have won more fights against other primarchs than any other. He was always rucking with them. He faced The Lion three times I can think of alone. Cheers for the vid.

Konrad Curze was perhaps one of the greatest tragedies that befell the Imperium for their hints of the Primarch that he could have become, a Warrior of Justice and Honor with the gift of foresight, but he landed in such a hostile and horrific planet that will shape him to being one of the worst monsters in the Grim Darkness of the far future.

I don't see Konrad's attempts to kill Vulcan as born out of spite, so much as sheer frustration that he just. Wouldn't. DIE.

The Emperor: Why can't you can't just be normal?! Konrad: *Evil Screeching Laughter*

,,The Primarch knew that law and order, the twin foundations of civilization are only maintained through fear of punishment. Man is not a peaceful animal, it is a creature of war and strife. To force the beasts into civilization one must remind them that excruciation awaits those who harmed the herd." - Talos Valcoran

So many people forget that Konrad's plan of improving his world was only half done. The point was never to stop at the serenity of terror-quieted criminals brought to heel by violence. It was to use the peace thus gained to fuel progress, true progress, and the Night Haunter never got to enact that part of his plan. To judge him for half his work is to miss a key part of his character. It's sad that we never got to see what he might have achieved.

Since I subscribed to this voxcast I have learned more about the Primarchs, both loyalist and traitors, than I would have until this point. Imperatoris Illustrat. The Emperor Enlightens.

The spirit of Batman with the mentality of the Joker in the body of a Demi God.

I'd just like to share a perspective on Curze that I don't see talked about a whole lot, because it is the reason he became my favorite Primarch by a legitimate country mile. His mind, while entirely broken at the best of times, retains a certain degree of childish innocence that I find to be both tragic and gruesomely sympathetic. And I don't mean innocence in the sense that he is blameless or good, but in the sense that he doesn't understand the world around him beyond a childlike level of comprehension. See, I'm studying child psychology as a part of my teacher's college education, and I couldn't help but think of Curze while reading through one of my textbooks. While discussing various theories of childhood development, the book addresses Kholberg's six stages of moral development, which tries to explain how kids develop a sense of what is right and what is wrong. I will quote the book to explain my thoughts. "Level 1: Preconventional Morality. Seen in preschool children [and] most elementary school students. Stage 1: Punishment-Avoidance and Obedience. Individuals will make decisions... without regard for others' needs or feelings. They obey rules... established by more powerful individuals... The only "wrong" behaviors are those that will be punished" I did omit some information from that quote as it doesn't necessarily apply to Curze, but as you can see it seems to describe his thoughts about the world to a tee. And it's how a toddler thinks. Fundamentally, Curze is a little kid in a great big man's body. And is it any wonder that he's like this? He had no mentor, no parent, nobody at all on Nostramo. As a result of that, and according to Maslow's hierarchy of needs, which dictates that people develop psychologically only when certain needs are met (eg. when you have food, water and basic shelter you can afford to spend more time thinking about, understanding, and ultimately pursuing things like wealth and family), he never developed past early childhood in a psychological sense. He was too busy just trying to survive. He is consistently compared to a child in his Primarch book, and in that respect, a lot of his behaviour starts to add up. He's shown to be very emotional and quick to cry, like a little kid. He pitches tantrums all the time (RIP Nostramo) like a little kid. He acts out for attention, believes that everyone is mad at him, and self-isolates whenever faced with any degree of adversity or pushback, like a little kid. He brings out my momma bear instincts, and tbh if he had a mentor of ANY kind he would have been able to fulfill more of his hierarchy of needs and develop past being just a little kid. And damn you Big E if a 19 year old education major can figure this out you should have been able to, too! Anyways, thanks for reading all the way to the bottom if you're still here (seriously, that's legend shit). Much love

I actually think the night haunter is #1 on the list for potential redemption ark. Especially given his legions distaste for demons and the fact his soul likely still resides in the crystal...err soul stone of the crown of nostramo.

Only character more tragic than Kurze is Angron and I love them both

If Batman ever fell into insanity and decides to become as evil as or even worse than the villains he fights, you have Konrad Curze. He had the misfortune of ending up on the most criminal world in the Imperium, witnessed every cruelty humans are capeable of, had absolutely 0 moments of joy and peace in his life and was plaqued by visions. This guy needed a psychologist and MANY¹⁰ therapy sessions to cope with this kind of trauma. Assuming his therapist doesn't went insane after just one session. I wonder how the Heresy played out if Konrad Curze fought at the Loyalist's side.

Konrad is the GOAT! Thanks for bringing him to life. 🙏

Ah, I always love hearing about my favorite evil goth space Batman.

My favorite Legion’s Primarch

Terran night lords were so badass.

Curze needed to give his people something to lose, a good life. No wonder they went back to old habits when his back was turned

My favorite Primarch. The Corona Nox must be reclaimed and taken to Terra to bring back the most terrifying Primarch: Konrad Curze.

Now I see why he's my sons favorite Primarch. This is by far the most interesting, nail biting tail I've heard so far. WOW!

Just wondered about Konrad while looking at 40k memes, and here I am, 2hrs after it's published. COINCIDENCE?! I THINK NOT!

While he does some horrible shit he is not a hypocrite about it. Probably my favorite primarch.

It would've been nice if some primarchs had radically different or even opposing primarch ascension powers from their personality. If Conrad Kurze can turn into a creature of shadow and/or light, what if Robute Guilliman was actually based from a warp entity of pure chaos and his ascension powers are the ability to create an area of absolute chaos and Guilliman's ocd for logistics is him fighting against his own nature.

Some amazing art in this video, thank you! I really enjoyed your well-crafted words. You understand the Night Haunter.

Please add a thank you button. I really enjoy your work.

10:00 yes somebody finally used my Saturnine NIghtlord Termis! Thank you!

He haunts the night but it's Corax whos owns it. The jealousy of konrad to corax

Probably my favorite fictional character. Both Batman and the Joker. But so much more, and completely insane.

Your content is simply superb! I haven't been a subscriber of your channel for long, but whenever I have the time, your amazing content is playing!

"Is that fear your feeling, little mortal? Hmmmmm yes, my soul feeds on terror. Let it grow.... Let it consume you.... Feel it, yesssss... Feel the FEAR!!!"

Awesome video. My favorite one. Thank you for such an awesome work. (And also Mawdrym Llansahain's) AVE DOMINUS NOX

Emperor: Use force necessary to quell the conflict Night Lords: Can’t be a rebellion if there isn’t a population Emperor: Not what I meant

amazing video... cant be the only one who comes back to those more then once :P

I never liked the Night Lords just based on their legionary tactics but watching this video makes me feel legitimate sorrow for Curze.

Another fantastic video, well done!

We have come for you

Lets be all honest here: He is most liked traitor primarch.

The irony that they complain that he rules with terror, when the Imperium does the exact same thing.

Day 1 of Reminding Konrad Kurz that it's also a Hammer

As always imho impressive voice acting by you. And thank you so much for the video and all the effort you invest I wholeheartedly appreciate it : ). Enjoyed it soo much listening to you, read the books, but few things didn't recall to precisely, thank you again!

This absolutely deserves more likes and views! This definitely approved by the Emperor of Mankind!

As a baby he learned his ABC's by eating brains! what a friggin boss

So basically Batman if Batman didn't have a no kill code.

Right off the bat, the words of the ruler of the world of endless night.

Would it be insane for Abbaddon finding a way to bring back Konrad to answer the Revivel of the Lion? So crazy!

11:41 Incredible that the Emperor didn't put a governement and infrastructures to prevent Nostramo descent into crimes again. Like he couldn't do it or couldn't he be bothered to maintain peace and justice upon the worlds he claim to be the master?

As guilaman sees the limping sevatar arrive,he was confused. Jago sevatarion,1st captain of the night lords. How was he alive 10 milenia later? Guilaman gripped the emporors blade. "Sevatar...?" Sevatar had labored breathing. He no longer wore his legion war plate. He was cloaked "Guilaman...i dont have much time left so i need to be quick,curze is in the gem of the crown i hold...the emporors blade...if there is any shred of His sanity left...please...do something..." Sevatar dropped to his knee coughing blood. "I dont see why i should heed what you say sevatarion. ...but answer me one question. Why me of all people?" Sevatar struggled to his feet as he tried to hold on to life. "Your the only primarch... with actual sanity...ive done what i can to reach him...please...free him from his madness..." Sevatar fell,dead. As the ultramarines arived led by sicarius,guilaman was shocked. "My lord what...has happened here?" "...put the fortress of hera on high alert. As for this night lord here...have the apothecary do what he can on him. He will not die yet." As guilaman dissmissed the marines,alone, guilaman looked at the sword,then to the crown. "If you are here my lord...then do what you must." The swords fire engulfed the crown, hissing in black and gold fire. Within the soul gem of the corona nox, curze would scream in pain. "Enough konrad. I am here." "I am not...konrad curze...i am...the night haunter..." "No. You are my son konrad. Let me help you...listen to my voice." As the light subsided...the crown and gem went from a sickly dark black,to a vibrant and holy white. A few hours later, guilaman arives to the hospital wing. Sevatars hands would be bound but healing. "Leave us." The marines left,leaving the 2. "You should have finished me. But i am grateful." "I kept you alive because you still owe me answers. What happened sevatar? How are you even alive?" "I am psychic, albeit hating it. Ive used it to buy me time i have been trying to stop my legions fall to dammnation,and restore the legion to a semblance of redemption,despite our sins." Guilaman nodded "A noble cause despite what happened. ...i do not trust you sevatar,but you have my word you are safe on maccrage. For now." Guilaman left,leaving sevatar to recover. Looking out the rainy dark,sevatar looked to the bandaged arms. The 1st captains arms started decayed. "Ngh...damm it. Im almost out of time..curze...this better work." To be continued...

Im spitballing but imagine a resurrected curze, served his time by accepting the sentence of death, he chooses to be a loyalist due to him being disgusted in what has become of those twisted by chaos over the millenia, but his only place in the imperium would be in the Inquisition in some capacity.

Straight away, dark spires amongst the darkness.

I think he could have been a good primarch had he been risen in a good family and with a good education. A lot of the Primarchs grew up on hell holes and having a good family is often what separated them from those that turned traitor.

Rewatching for the algorithm

Amazing content mate.

Great video. After seeing this video, he has to be my new favourite Traitor Primarch. Especially with all the stuff before meeting the Emperor. It's a shame, as I don't actually like the colour scheme of the Night Lords, and I feel like if I tried to paint them, I would make some alterations.

Seriously....Konrads Nightlords Armor Feel Like A Deadly Evil Like Batmen

Im gonna have to be that edgy, mouth breather, soyboy, "you'll grow out of it one day" individual"..... But Curz is my favorite Primarch and i unapologetically think he and his Legion was unfairly treated and on some inhumane level think the Soul Hunter THE badass Talos had a point. And despite me not agree with skinning the flesh from my bones to prove said point he at the very least NEVER let go of his grudge of betrayal after being hated by both his gene seed daddy and the Imperium he mutilated for. The Night Lords trilogy might have turned me into a Night Lords apologist and that justifies pretty much everything they did but i can live with that......until the Night Lords finds out I don't agree with kidnapping people to press gang onto their cursed as hell ships. Edit: Sev is still alive and is either a Grey Night or on some planet being the Batman we deserve

Erebus and Konrad would be BFFs for sure ! 🤦🏽🤪

Hey Dad 🦇

Essentially he is an evil Batman that earned his money.

Oh, I would love to narrate each of the Primarchs. My favourite would be Roboute Guilliman, but I think I would enjoy narrating Konrad Curze and Angron.

The edgelord Primarch in his own video. :)

You are by far my favorite 40k youtube loremaster

Remember in Megamind when Metroman lands in a mansion as a baby but Megamind landed in a literal prison

great video !!!!!!

Kurze is what you get when you combine Batman with the nameless killer from the film Seven.

I'm making the comment 6½ in and do far curze sounds like a alright guy, all other videos throw hella shade on him tho

Ave Dominus Nox!

So it's not a joke, Curze really was like batman.

Ave Dominus Nox!!!!

💜🟣 Glory to the Dark Prince! What sweet slaaneshi irony. All Dante's Circles of Hell start from the Second: the Sins of Lust and Pride! Fulgrim and Emperor's Children become Serpents, Konrad Curze and Night Lords become Dragons, Alpharius/Omegon and Alpha Legion become Crocodiles. What is the excessive power of the Emperor's Children, the Night Lords and the Alpha Legion under Slaanesh to have bodies of pure dark stone (the Ice Moon of Slaanesh)? Genestealers (Tyranids) and Beastmen can find excess only with Slaanesh! I think I've solved Slaanesh's Necromancy! Ghosts and Skeletons of Slaanesh are of Ice, moved by Lust and Pride. A pearl of Slaanesh please: Ice Magic of Slaanesh. Does it have a classic look or does it have a more snowy look? The (humanoid) Dark Kroxigor for Slaanesh? How can they be? Circle of Avidity is a hell of gold, Circle of Gluttony is a hell of blood, Circle of Carnality is a hell of sand, Circle of Supremacy (Paramountcy) is a hell of ash, Circle of Vanity (Vainglory) is a hell of water, Circle of Indolency is a hell of snow. But why is it called that and not simply Supremacy? Furthermore, the gold pearls of the Circle of Avidity must be Gold Serpents or Gold Elementals, i personally say gold pearls (the magic water that can turn everything into perfect gold). And shouldn't the Circle of Vainglory simply be called the Circle of Vanity (example the Princes of Vanity)? "Vanity, definitely my favorite sin." (The coral/seaweed Forest of Vanity) I have an interesting theory about the V Circle of Seduction, Vanity (Vainglory). As Nurgle is nature on Earth, Slaanesh is nature in Water (example the sea gardens of the Laer). And by logic the fragrant and flowery Forest of Vanity is of perfect coral with spikes and seaweed with spines, dominated by serpentine Demons with spines. You like it? Sun Dragons in the Circle of Carnality, Moon Dragons in the Circle of Indolency, Fire Dragons in the Circle of Supremacy, Ice Dragons in the Circle of Indolency, Metal Dragons in the Circle of Supremacy, Ash Dragons in the Circle of Indolency, Earth Dragons in the Circle of Supremacy, Sea Dragons in the Circle of Vanity, Lightning Dragons in the Circle of Supremacy, Blood Dragons in the Circle of Gluttony.

Good or bad konrad accepted what he was and just ran with it took pessimism to a new level!!! Am mean misery would be miserable hanging round with him

Konrad curze is loyal

Kurze is Conrad if he had not experienced love at all early age

If Batman and the Punisher had a baby.

With who konrad talks in the last segment?

So, if Warhammer had the punisher, batman and carnage as a space marines. That makes this and the salamanders my fav now.

Would make a killer movie! Pun intended

Can't be a traitor if you never were loyal...

1 second into video and auto like, all because the greatest Primarch's name. I wish i could make more likes

Curze is amazing

2nd coolest traitor legion just after Death Guard

Imagine your so depressed your about to kill yourself and right before you do a 12 foot monster with greasy hair shark teeth and wearing decorations of human skin and bone strolls in.The fear of death he brought would scare you enough to want to live.

Ride the Lightning by Metalica is really a good Night Lords song...

That is some good sh**!

You left out the part where Konrad Curze killed everyone on the ship that saved him. All but one guy that tortured for years.

This is a Batman on steroids story. 🤣

Ave Dominus Nox

Lol this guy's treatment of Vulkan was straight up heinous.. And what did vulkan ever do to him?

Joker and Batman had a child?

Two things: (1) "elucidate" cannot be used with people as the objects of the verb; for instance, you cannot elucidate a person. You can elucidate the nature of a person, or the history of a person, but not the person himself. You use this in every video so I felt the need to correct it. (2) "fiefdom" is pronounced "feef-dumb", not "fife-dumb". I'm not sure if you have used it before, but other WH40K KZfaqrs have and many say "fife-dumb" for some reason.

sooo Konrad Curze grew up in NY??

Psychic Batman

*I AM COMING FOR YOU*

He did not have that dawg in him.

He's so me 😭😭😭

Batman in power armor. 👍

Easily the best primarch.

AVE DOMINOUS KNOX

Av Domus Nox.