Disappointing to think that the night lords could have just been a chapter of lawyers instead of psychos. Imagine for a moment a space marine in a suit and tie with a briefcase just staring down a heretic, before listing off his crimes and then smashing his head in screaming guilty.

Vulcan sees Konrad. Vulcan: I wish to pet this creature.

I think my favorite bit that about Konrad is the scene where he's talking with Sanguinius and Sanguinius shows him that the future can be changed and he shits his pants in horror as he realizes that the only reason things we're going the way they were was because he didn't really try.

Maybe if psycho space Batman chose to save Robin instead of ripping out his spine, maybe his fate would've been different...

I love how the Primarchs are the individual embodiments of both mankind's greatest traits and greatest flaws.

"Explain to me why it is more noble to kill 10,000 men in battle than a dozen at dinner." - The Man, the Legend: Tywin Lannister

*Gestation pod crashes* Inhabitants: "Wow, that was bad, but at least we've had the worst of it." *Chaos Gods audibly giggling in the background*

_"Who's planet was quite literally dominated by giant man eating zombie monsters..."_ Arch can you pretty please make a comprehensive breakdown for the lore of Mortarion.

"Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Konrad the sad? It is an old legend"

Old quote: "Think of Konrad Curze as the kind of guy Judge Dredd would say is going too far to enforce the law."

I can imagine that the emperor designed him with a split personality for his role as the perfect judge One for the defender and one for the accuser, which would argue both positions so he would decide the case most fairly

So long as the original video remains up, I have no problems with this. *_BRING ON THE LORE BABY!_*

He is actually more like The Punisher than Batman...... Corax is The Batman of 40K........

The best part is that his original video on Konrad is the second most viewed video on his channel, slightly behind his Necron video.

His story genuinely saddens me. The way he had lived, and how he slowly destroyed himself, whether intentional or not. But I feel like this is a story of what can happen to someone if there was never any love in their lives. He had no friends to share experiences and understand with, no family to show care or support. Let alone help him understand the complexities of man. even when he was losing his mind, he still tried to redeem himself with his death. His life was a tragedy, but one worth remembering.

I wonder how new born primarch looks like. Imagine giant toddler running around slaughtering criminals.

"You could have made me ruthless but instead you made me evil" Konrad saying this is heartbreaking, it paints a picture that what he wanted to be fell away to the night haunter.

People of Nostramo: *exist* Konrad Curze: "This is not a negotiation. The sentence is (a fate worse than) death."

That last picture of Konrad as a righteous judge brought a tear to my eye, what a great man he could have been...

Totally agree with guys who liked the old Konrad more, because his actions were calculated, his mind was cold as he followed the ideas of "the end justifies the means" and "sacrifice few to save many" and only after faced his own judgement without cheap "split personality" excuse. Old Konrad was a man, new is really more like an emotional child with tragic fate, some kind of Raskolnikov of 40k. Still good, but it was better.

Konrad Curze, who's tragedy is that he could only see a giant looming butthole in the future. And by the way, another case of Emperor not bothering to fix his son, even though in this case it'd be enough to give him a clue about how prophecies work. Probably a good education in the history and practices of jurisprudence too, if he's not too busy to arrange for tutors?

To summarize: The original Konrad served as an example of what happens when law becomes divorce from morality. His mind breaking from the stress of his unethical actions and his attempts to justify himself using the logic of "the ends justify the means," but ultimately his salvation came from assisted sucide in a vain attempt at repentance for his crimes against humanity. The new Konrad exists as an example of what happens when a child gains too much too quickly. All his knowledge lacked wisdom or experience to temper it, thus he became increasingly irrational. The splitting of his mind represents his attempts to preserve his innocence, but by imprisoning his humanity, he allows a callous lawful evil monster to walk the universe; searching for a hunter to put himself down. Eventually, the monster gives up and the child awakens to the horrors of his actions and escapes any consequences through death. In my opinion, I prefer the old one to the new, as the old one serves as a cautionary tale about the law. While the new one, simply exists to be a tragic monster; Alucard from Hellsing, for example, demonstrated this concept and was executed to a better degree than the new Konrad. This lack of a moral lesson, along with the change in when he dies, just doesn't satisfy me.

"Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask their ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer." -Javik, Mass Effect 3

Lord Konrad Curze/Night Haunter, after listening to this video and the book review, he was a tortured soul, the manner of his arrival to Nostramo, some may say "So what, didn't the Lion come to Caliban a Death World and run around killing and eating chaos monsters the second he came out of the pod!" Yes but the memories the Lion gained from the chaos creators was that the preyed on humanity. Curze when he consumed the people of Nostramo, he gained their memories that anybody can be victim of somebody else it was just a matter of time. Secondly, every other Primarchs as far as we know came to have some human contact, even Angron had the High-Riders. Taught to fight to survive not knowing his own inner power and strength and than altered by the Butcher's Nails. Curze had nobody to teach him anything, he had no reference point to base what was good, what was bad what was right what was wrong, he only had the emotions of the people of Nostramo which were in a very abysmal state to say the least. The pain of his arrival and being alone did damage him but not to the point of not being able to be repaired, enough of his "Good Side" was there to safe and rebuild on. When the Emperor came for him, Rogal Dorn and others were also there, Curze only reacted when he came face to face with the Emperor, and at that point the Emperor should have known the severity of Curze's mental damage and started the process to heal him, but the Emperor saw the efficiency of Curze methods and planned to use him to the utmost of Curze's own abilities and limits. To than end, Curze was the Emperor's best general, no hesitation to do what needed to be done no matter how deep and or wide the lake of blood that needed to be crossed was. To the point the the other Primarchs had deep reservations about Curze. If the Emperor had taken some time to help Curze and placed him under Sanguinius' care and tutelage who knows how he would have turned out, he may have been the leading Primarch against Horus! What I am trying to say is, let's not judge him to harshly, let's listen before passing a sentence, for out in dark edges many sons of Konrad still prowl waiting to show us first hand the lessons they learned from the Night Haunter himself

I think that the price the Emperor payed to create the Primarchs was that half of them would serve Chaos, with four of them serving a specific god.

Konrads story is worthy of its own Netflix series.

Hey arch you should do Guilliman next i really want to hear all of the creative insults toward the ultra-smurfs

Question for all the fans. If a clone of Konrad was created do you think the Majority of Night Lords warbands would join him or try to kill him?

It would be interesting to see a book series made in a hypothetical universe where Horus turns chaos away on Davin and the emperors plan comes to fruition. We could see what it would be like if these characters didn’t turn to chaos and how they would deal with the crusade being over. How they would do in their appointed roles after the galaxy is conquered.

Haven’t you done a perfect video of him already?

Arch: uploads video about Konrad Kurze Us: Hey, I’ve seen this one before!

Are we all gonna ignore the swoll Emperor in the top left?! He looks like he just went to the gym and bench pressed the whole building!

You forgot the best line from Vulcan's battle with Curze when he goes to teleport away. "You forget something, Brother. It is ALSO a hammer." And then beats him with it. ^^'

I know you've said before you didn't like the original video you did on konrad, but honestly it one of my favourites. Okay the sound quality isn't as good back then as what you do now, but the narration is still class

I like how you said 40K is a universe that shows the things the way they are. That is exactly what Konrad Curze is. The Night Haunter is Batman as he would actually be. Someone who genuinely believes in Justice and Order and uses fear as a weapon and who has seen so much shit, who has put his hand so deep into the filth and muck it is hard to tell him apart from the criminals and monsters he fight.

one day you'll do a Mortarion video. One day.

40k: It's not the batman we need but the batman we deserve.

me: lets go to bed early today Arch: let me ruin this mans whole sleeping schedule

I find the stories of Kurze and Angron the most fascinating. The whole broken or stolen destiny and broken demigods.

As much as I know this will be excellent, part of me is wondering how many more years will go by before Arch covers a Primarch I like.

This left me thinking of the common fallacy of judging oneself differently than way we judge others. The perspective of another could have helped Konrad with this, but he was always alone.

Me: Having just got home from work and looked at a few starship trooper memes his friends posted. And then sees the new Konrad Kurze revisit. Also me: 'Would you like to flay more?'

You cant just hand in the same assignment twice arch

I really feel that this video is more of a second part than a remake. The first one talked mainly about his rise to power in nostramo and not that much about his life during the crusade. This video does the opposite narrating mainly his life after he was found by Big E.

Ave Dominus Nox!

I'd like Arch to do video on Papa Angron, but I feel he'd just slag him off as a disappointment to Big E... 😭

I wonder if the Dark Elves see Curze as some kind of a 'Art of Pain' Teacher ........

God I want a vid on Angron already

I love Sangunius , but Konrad is so deep a character and interesting . Btw those that read the book did anybody notice when he says to Sevetar that Sevetar will die in the " Outer dark " those that sound familiar to anyone

Konrad Curze: I am Judge, Jury, and most importantly, Executioner. The verdict? Guilty. The sentence? *_Death._*

Konrad and Sanguinius: best vampire bros

Konrad Curze: The KZfaq TOS, made flesh

Whut?! _Arch is thinking about covering what the (traitor) Primarchs could be in the side of good?_ Is Arch going to cover *_Zahariel's Roboutian Heresy?_* If so, even for a short segment, this is a good one. I mean, by the Emperor, Zahariel's AU stories of: -. *_Konrad Curze, the King of the Night, Lord of Justice, the most humane of all primarchs;_* -. *_Perturabo, the humble genius and the praetorian of Terra;_* -. Most importantly, *_Angron, Lord of the Red Sands, the Breaker of Chains, the bro-est of all the primarchs;_* are nothing short of inspiring. If you are thinking about covering them, Arch, I am very much appreciated it!

This will be a great series, although some of them are still really lacking a decent background. I'm kind of shocked they haven't fleshed out some in the Heresy series yet, like Dorn or the Khan.

I was watching the original video this morning, my girlfriend of one year broke up with me acouple hours ago. Thank you, Arch, I really needed this.

DONT LISTEN TO OTHERS DO VIDEO JUST ON KONRAD AND THEN AGAIN AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!!

wtf looking at picture of konrad with the electric claws, I could swear he didn't have blood on them or his face until one moment he did

Ooooo. This should be the best. Again!

I always wondered why you never added the konrad curze video to a primarch playlist... I understand now, and I have seen the light of Konrad's gestation capsule burning in the atmosphere. I have high hopes for the many videos to come :D

This reminds me of a guy I went to college with. Thanks for the trip down memory lane!

Arch: complains about lack of originality and berates remaster/remakes constantly. Also Arch: Konrad Curze 2 Electric Boogaloo

Hear me, whoever Dark Gods who dares harken to my prayers! Let Arch be given the wisdom and fortitude to do all the other Primarch vids with such passion, and I shall be your servant for eternity.

"playing with his food" Damn, that phrase still gives me Shudder's in this video

After reading the Night Lords omnibus I have new appreciation and even a little love for Curze and his kids.

I HAVE BROUGHT ORDER, PEACE AND JUSTICE TO MY NEW IMPERIUM!

Konrad Curze Saved Billions of lives before the heresy: and not one of them would ever thank him for that due to how he did it.

I've just watched the whole video from beginning to end and I've got go say this was by far the BEST video on warhammer 40k lore that I've seen. You've demonstrated a very strong understanding of Konrad, his legion and how it all could have been different. Bravo.

"Everyone within my tummy, nobody outside my tummy, nobody against my tummy!" -Konrad Curze, vore enthusiast

I've lived around people with various mental illnesses throughout my life and really I think the book is genuinely great at portraying mental illness and the descent of it as it continues.

If the Pirmarchs landing in their home world could be described as rolling a d20 and the higher the roll the more well suited a world is to that Primarch Gulliman rolled a 20 Konrad's die rolled in to a garbage disposal, and was a 1

The Night Lords were the first Legion that I delved into and still love them the most!:)

Inspired by Mr. Kurtz from the book 'Heart of Darkness' by Joseph Conrad, no doubt.

He said it was going to be a remake, but I didn't expect this....this gonna be good.

Vulkan: *breaks through maze* Kurze: No! This isn’t how you’re supposed to play the game!

We need a buddy cop movie of Konrad and Vulkan boating across the galaxy laying down the law

"I have come for you...." -The Primarch Konrad Kurze

I would have wanted Perturabo video but oh well

"Tell Sevatar to bring them in line, heads will roll!"

Masterclass stuff! Thank you Arch for the content. Never stop never stopping.

Arch, your enthusiasm is neverending. Thanks for your content over the years. Many cathartic moments.

Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Primarch Konrad the sad? Legend has it Konrad was a dark primarch of the emperor, so powerful and scary he could even influence Nostramo to stop crime. He could actually save the population from crime? The dark side of ethics is a pathway to many acts some consider to be unnatural. What happened to him? He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his righteousness, which eventually he did. Unfortunately, he taught his legion everything he knew, but they were corrupted, and he was assassinated in his sleep. Ironic. He could stop crime, but became a criminal himself. is it possible to learn this thesis? Not from a loyalist.

he wanted to do it again because he didn't like the end results

Dang Arch, I gotta say this is probably one of the best lore videos you've done. this one was amazing.

One of my three favorite Primarchs, the tragedy of Konrad I believe was one of pure bad luck, any other world but Nostramo and his fate would've been different. There was no light on Nostramo, literally and metaphorically, it conditioned him, he could never see the light in humanity, only the dark. His visions showed him the darkest path fate could take and he believed that was absolute, for on Nostramo there was no virtue, thus how could the common man be virtuous? The only virtue he found was in his fellow Primarchs and the Emperor, this stood at odds with who he was and this created in him a sense of self loathing so strong he couldn't countenance it. Any world but Nostramo.

I would so be down for an arch what if video for everyone. Imagine a what if for lorgar

"Some houses just used the gangs as law enforcement, no uniforms just thugs" Gee, are we sure Curze didn't just drop into Beijing? Because hearing you describe Nostramo is making me think of China.

Thank you so much Arch for these lore videos!

Angaron: I fear no man... but that... thing... it scares me.

That's twenty one sons.

Oh shit, here we go again...

Truly a beautiful remake, Arch, thank you! I still find elements of the original amusing in how they are worded (i.e. the Superman dynamic, ha), and it would be a tragedy to take it down, I hope you keep both incarnations up. I have read a few fanfictions, that have the fallen Primarchs as the protagonists and the loyal Primarchs as antagonists, swapping their allegiance. Including a point where insane Vampire-Sanguinius kills Horus, after having visions of Horus killing him, and replaces Fulgrim in the cloning idea wanting his brother (Horus) to love and join him rather than reject him. Some of the plot points include; With Angron, it was an interesting AU, where he was instead adopted by the Nobility then led a revolt against the leaders and freed the slaves. Konrad was sane, had been adopted by a woman who tragically died and freed of terrible visions by the Emperor's arrival. Sometimes he played "pica-boo" pranks on his Legion and serfs, when they went looking for his random sleeping places, and hadn't had serious visions until the approaching of the Heresy which he told Fulgrim who also remained loyal. Fulgrim and Konrad were close, Fulgrim believed in Konrad, and Fulgrim mourned Konrad's death at the hands of Vulcan at the Drop Site Massacre. On a side note: Apparently, according to new sources, it is hinted that the Lost Primarchs were actually divided, one apparently fell and the other was loyal, but as we've seen with the intentions of Konrad and Alpharius Omegon... loyalty is a questionable point. What is good and just, what is an act of loyalty, changes by person. Although, in the new Cawl book they did reveal one of the Lost Legions through a reflection seen on Pharos by Primaris, wearing original Gray Armour and 2/5 of them being Psykers. I live with the theory that the Second Legion were built to combat the warp and other such entities, so I am leaning that this was a cameo of the Second Legion.

Everybody gnagsta on Nostramo until the Nighthaunter pops up.

I'm confused. you already have a video of him, do you not?

*the most unlucky ship in the galaxy* ... So the Occurrence Border?

Been going through the Heresy following along with your videos as I complete them. I just so happened to get the new Konrad book and finish it in time to see this video. And your original video on him was the first of yours I saw and got me into 40k

Love the new take on batman, can't wait to see it on the big screen.

HYYYYYPE! FAVE PRIMARCH, FAVE LEGION! Preparing a feast for lords for this content

My personal belief is Kurze, if he had spared the boy, his legion more noble and loyal to the Emperor. That he could have formed a bond with the Angel, maybe both could learn of each other's perceived fates. And maybe the angelic Primarch would have made such an impression that Kurze would seek to avert the oncoming fate of his brother. I think that Kurze would have been on Terra and boarded with the Emperor. That he would be the first to confront Horus. That Sanguinius would have arrived to see his closest brother murder another whom he pitied and perhaps wished to protect, and this could have filled the Angel with such wrath that he may well have struck Horus down in his fury, but been unwilling to kill him, so he would die just the same. But it would be a broken, wounded Horus the Emperor faced, not the mighty champion of the Powers Undivided. The 41st millennium could have been very different indeed, if only Kurze had made one decision differently.

Konrad to Sanguinius: "Crush me step-bro"

>Live on Nostramo >Fear the Night Haunter >Don't do crime >Live an honest life without causing crime >Lover gets killed "that killer is fucked" >goes back to life