Absolutely buying the Wavestate VST. I’m getting the skinny from you on whether I need this one too 🤣

KOrg also made this 330$ for a limited time which is a S T E A L... still a few left on reverb as of this post.

@@powermix24 Yep just picked one up. Looks like they discontinued it too so I wonder what used prices will look like in the coming months.

@@powermix24 I was thinking to get the Sonicware XFM, knowing that the OPSIX was over my budget ($750), then I got email today from REVERB that this synth is $330! Jumped on it right away and I got it! It's all gone when I saw your comment, for those who are reading this :( I was watching this video again today to get familiar with it, because LOOPOP is the best!

@@dvuemedia Yes for 330 it is a steal deal!

It's basically sytrus in hardware form.

check out MegaFM this synth has a knob per function layout!

here, even if you understand nothing or quite, it is easy to modulate & explore

I see a 1983 synth with knobs extra waves and more adsr's and lfo's

@@uvoikimovundutrauerblume3302 that's what people have been clamouring for.

@@Heathcliff_hensel exactly!

They are refining each synthesis type and putting it into sexy package. Very focused. I like that.

Really? I had a triton and thought it sucked

I so loved my TX81Z. I never used it as my main synth, but as an addition to my D50 etc it was superb

It was a giant paper weight 😂

Thanks very much and that's great to hear!

I agree. Its gonna look great next to my gold monologue

In person it's even better. I don't like LEDs in general, but Korg did a great job there. All colours match everything -- including the chameleon green. It's a mix of retro-modern that went really well. Kudos Korg!

The lights of the sequencer/favorites are way too bright. Distracting. The operator lights should be brighter, comparatively.

@@hermask815 maybe I'm remembering wrong but I thought there was a firmware update for that

@@hermask815 actually maybe I'm thinking of the behringer 2600. They both have bright LEDs...

Not unique if you've spent any time with Yamaha's FM synth range but I agree that it still generates awesome tones.

@@John_Stone_ What Yamaha would compare to this?

@@MD_is_me Many of the patches remind me of presets or sounds I've made on the TX7 (dx7 module) and FM7/8. The former obviously didn't have the effects or filter the OPSix has though. It's a shame Korg didn't make the filter analogue. Nevertheless it sounds great and I'm very tempted to buy.

dx7 famous for the six op bass sounds for the best of reasons. 6 op synth? sign me up KORG

For desktop, multitimbral (and 300 voices), we have the Kodamo Essence.

​@@JoeBWall The Kodamo Essence is by far the coolest and most powerful FM synth, especially when coupled with a few extra knobs or sliders over MIDI for more tactile hands-on control. I'm not the biggest fan of touch screen interfaces, even though it seems really easy to use.

Wish they’d take the sequencer too because their synth sequencers are generally garbage.

@@Kdkjdjewerdnxa they did kind of. But it's very stripped back compared to elektron. It's definitely an elektron style seq though

It is almost nothing like the elektron sequencer. Have you actually used the sequencer on the opsix and an elektron sequencer?

Just ask, you never know :)

Do you need us to @Korg about it?

This man must get more love from the manufacturers. And especially Korg, who got an S tier from him (decision I fully agree with)

You don’t do that, remember?😉

@sbmphr Very interesting that Wavestate = Raspberry Pi. That means RPi has more software than is opened to public.

What a cheap hunk of plastic? No way!! The digitone keys look is so funky and cool I'm so glad they took that gamble. It will definitely become a cult classic.. It's not for the mass market like this!

youtube is basically forcing people to buy premium or go mad - eg that paypal advert is deeply offensive aurally

@@spridgejuice if I didn’t have Premium, I would NEVER use KZfaq again!! I’ve seen the results on friends KZfaq accounts that don’t have Premium, and I would go mad or find the CEO of Google and beat him senseless for the amount of ads! If they ever raise the price, I’d stop using KZfaq altogether!

IMO it was never any harder to learn than digital additive, or analogue modular subtractive. The limited programming interface offered by the likes of the DX7 and CZ-101 seems to have turned off some of the older generation of synth geeks to the possibilities, and gave rise to the "third party programmer" with their thousands of (sometimes bland) presets at your fingertips. This certainly has a friendlier physical interface if the sound is what you're looking for.

Agreed! Interface is the key. No membrane switches

Great news!!

There's Yammie's FM-X engine in their MODX keyboards and Montage flagship.

FM is capable of so much more than tinkly stuff or 80s pop. I've got some really phat patches on my TX7.

I still feel that FM either sounds all the same or it takes way too much effort to achieve something different but still usable. I have watched reviews of ModX and the opsix but I still didn't hear anything interesting apart from the usual bells and EPs. I'm pretty happy with my Nord wave2 that has some tiny fm section that covers those basic fm sounds. A whole synth just for that still doesn't really seem worth it. Wavetable and subtractive synth seem much more flexible and practical.

My pleasure - thanks for taking the time to write!

Same here! I love the EssenceFM. I don't think that either one can really be called "better" than the other, but they're both very interesting synths.

@@aceofdub I didn't catch that. I was really hoping to maybe recreate some DX sounds and the absence of after touch is a tad of a dealbreaker to be honest

@@the-synth-artistit’s late for me to say now but the update that added aftertouch MIDI support is great 👍 this thing really shines with a nice controller

@@kaitlyn__L that's really cool I didn't know that! I've never bought one after all, just got used to my Reface DX's limitations. Thank YT for notifying me about this reply lol

or rack version

Because of the Wavestate form factor, I have a feeling they most likely won't do a desktop version. Digitone might be the best desktop FM machine option we'll have for a bit.

@@lordundhimself1310 don’t forget the DX200!

@@emrah1986 nah I had a dx200 this thing is much nicer.

@@Heathcliff_hensel I was referring to the Digitone, not the Opsix.

"more sound combining than sound design" No, sir, those romplers, when editable, have EGs, filters, LFOs, and more just like analogue and analogue modeling synths. Their digital oscillators took samples instead of voltages (VCOs) or algorithims (VA), but among their arsenals of samples were also basic, single-cycle sawtooths, squares, etc., as basic sawtooth basses and square leads and what not are best done with good ol' simple sawtooths, squares, etc. This continues into the modern day with the common performance romplers like the ever popular Juno-DS and MODX. Most people cared much more for presets than sound design back then, so presets were the synth sellers, not user-friendliness in sound design, thus skimpy front panel controls and excessive menu-diving.

@@Jason75913 I was referring to the way most uses of the D70 simply combined up to 4 tones to make a multi-layered or split patch. The commercially available sound cards for the D70 consisted mainly of that. I personally took a deep dive into the tone editing parameters to create entirely new tones--many using the analog and digital waveform samples. Being romplers rather than oscillators they could not be synced and there was no pulse width modulation, but there was a sampled Jupiter 8 PWM string waveform that was very convincing. There were also some sounds that passed for oscillator sync electric guitar fairly well. Of course, after that, analog modeled digital oscillators were a great leap forward (as in the Roland JP8000 and beyond).

If this came out in a 61-key variant with a Fatar keybed or similar, I'd buy this in an instant. Either that or a desktop version.

"KORG Opsix SE and SE Platinum - With a premium all-metal design, 61-keys, and aftertouch, it unlocks a new world of sonic capabilities" :D kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hqeadMmBm8yoink.html

This aged nicely..😅

lol yeah both came out ! @@granderlavail6836

I'm going to hold out a little longer to see if a rack/desktop version is released.

why are their so many italics in this post? like i dont disagree, the italics just seem random XD

@@Nalinalinali He's an emphatic guy. Let him be.

Does the Korg has Pitch-Envelopes? Like the later DX had?

Totally agree. The Aphex/Novation us just a gimmick. An Eno-collaborated synth would be something to get properly excited about.

Randomness? I've never heard of such a DX7 feature. Do you have a link to any of what you're suggesting?

haha i was thinking the same thing!

Them paired would be so dooope!

@@ruffiankick IKR!!!

2 months later, and almost 3 weeks of programming in (over 70 patches, with 50 I consider good quality), this has become my favorite synth to program. Korg truly did make FM understandable and accessible, and this synth continues to inspire my latest visions of sound design. And this all started with your great review. Truly look forward to your future review of the upcoming Korg Modwave, if that's in the works :)

I think I missed your point - what flaw?

Yes, or ZERO from Blamsoft for Reason.

Modify? More like destruction lol. The best thing about my FS1R was you could randomize patches with Sounddiver.

Thanks! it's ok to skip them if they're not interesting - I do!

Reminded me of topgun.

Loopop will not be making any more gear videos due to injuries sustained from being thrown off the top of Hell In A Cell through the announcers table

@@t00lshack Aaah right. Right before the theme kicks in.

Digital and analog are both awesome. I like wavetable and FM, among other kinds synthesis digital kicks ass at. I'm personally just uninterested in "digital analog".

I like the idea and those extensions to pure FM sound interesting. Unfortunately it seems that most today's companies can't get past ADSR envelopes. That was limitation of analog, never necessary nor optimal for digital. Even old DX and CZ synths had much more expressive envelopes, thus giving a lot more possibillities to sound sculpting. Or perhaps have both? Not much coding needed, and ADSR is useful for making simple sounds.

@@lordundhimself1310 I find great value also in Virtual Analog. It brings affordable poliphony to the subtractive approach 😊

@@DIYTAO Having an ADSR is always a good thing ! 😄 Expecially if you can route it towards any destination ! So I would say that your ''having both'' option is the one 👍

@@DIYTAO I can never stop shaking my head at the industry's return to _just_ ADSR envelopes when even something cheap like a Casio CZ-101 could have variable length 8-stage time-level envelopes and instead we're stuck with Ussachevsky's little ADSR suggestion to Bob Moog (basically an envelope designed to model the way acoustic instruments worked) in 2020.

That would be awesome...

It'd be a shame to get one and not program your own sounds anyway.

@@Goettelyeah, with that layout it’s all about programming your own sounds. If you just want presets, get dexed and look up other people’s patches or generate new random ones.

This synth is totally unusable for live playing. 37 keys and no aftertouch. Yamaha built a better synth in 1983

@@konradhausmann6359 Maybe they will add desktop version so you can hook every keyboard you like but yeah for it's price it should have been with better keybed.