I really did love how Kratos changed from being a vengeful Warrior to a father willing to risk his life for his son. Kratos: We will be the gods WE choose to be. Not those who have been. Who I was is not who you will be. We must be better.

I really felt bad seeing Kratos look out onto all the destruction he had caused. I get the sense that he felt that even with everything he did he did not feel better. A common revelation of revenge.

O GOD! ITS BEEN A WHILE. I appreciate a like on this video! Here's why I believe Kratos was always meant to change in God of War Ragnarok!

Honestly, this side of Kratos was there in the old games too. Buried/sandwiched between brutal battles and blood, sure, but it was there. The only real “change” is that it’s more…visible for lack of a better term.

Even in the old games Kratos showed some form of love and compassion

He always showed emotion, maybe not the emotions some people wanted to see. But anger and sadness were always there. He always showed love for his daughter, but he does know he killed her of his own free will. That is why he hates himself, that hate is a emotion.

Wow man, it feels like u expressed a part of u in this video. Big respect bro. It fascinates me everytime that a video game can have that huge an outcome in real world. Thats just incredible. Sending u much love Jon

He's obviously vengeance driven but the first time I noticed the biggest change in his nature is when he isn't willing to sacrifice pandora for his own benefit/cause. Clearly he sees his daughter in her and wants to "be better" by not making the choice that his old self probably wouldn't think twice about. It obviously took some time but when he originally opened the box in the first GOW thats when he gained hope and slowly changed because of it.

Love this video! The fact that Kratos has been on a decade long plus character arc has always been crazy & cool to me.

I agree that Kratos was always going to change ever since his final battle with Zeus. Kratos just knew that his revenge amounted to nothing. In fact, Kratos learned this lesson of how pointless revenge is when he killed Ares and didn't get what he thought he wanted. Kratos even tried to kill himself, but wasn't allowed to by the Olympians. In a sense, Kratos changed for the worse during the Greek era because he wasn't given the choice to change for the better. However, after the fall of Olympus, he had the choice to change for the better, and although it took a while and he had help from family and allies, Kratos changing for the better made sense for his character and journey.

He changes Fate not by fighting or killing but by Being Better for Atreus sake. The sudden 180° during Ragnarok was great. Kratos went from getting Vengeance on Odin to saving and Protecting the innocent Midgardians that Odin left to die

when I saw the people on the painting praying to the kratos statue and kratos started to cry, I cried so hard because I remember when kratos said in 2018 "men should not pray to monsters."

One thing I always questioned about the Greek era games is if the Kratos we see was the real Kratos. The reason being is because he was on into situations where he couldn't really think things through only react to them the way he was trained to, as a Spartan. This is where as the norms put it Zeus's choice eventually lead him to his demise, he could've allowed Kratos or his many many many other children to have a life that they could put thought into and understand the consequences of their actions but he didnt out of fear of this alleged curse that was only in effect because of his lines negligence. This is the lesson Faye taught kratos to be available to Atreus and not put him through this neglect that could lead to Atreus becoming the Loki we see in the mural siding with Odin after Kratos's death. That's what I think we missed as well as the norns they were under the assumption of this vicious cycle but failed to read the context and see Faye's final action her sacrifice to end the cycle of neglect and fear and bring in a new perspective of learning to understand others, and that choice is stringer than fate, which is the lesson Odin failed to learn.

People need to accept that kratos is now a better person and a better god theres no need for him to destroy things or kill people he needed to change im happy that he's better person now

I really love ragnarok version of kratos , especially when thor hit jormugandr back in time and kratos without hesitation willing to take matters into his own hand like confrontation with thor and try to reason with him

quite good yet well spoken for kratos life also hello editor, be well in every new day.

This is one of your best videos, well done

idk what ppl r talking abt kratos why kind gentle and caring to his calape and pandora, u can see that side more in those games when he was with/talking to them

Love your videos Jon, good to hear from you bro

So kratos just wants to be alone but whatever happends the gods always concerns him😂 Poor guy just wants to live a happy life with his son

Because I like the blood and guts and violence and war just as the older games did. That's why some people want the old kratos back. He's just a straight badass

I've already lost count of how many times I beat all the games in this franchise, even Chains and Ghost. And Ragnarök is my favorite tbh

Anyone else see the GoW universe as kinda like Marvels Battleworld? Where Dr Doom of 616 created and rules an earth that has the remains of every world in the multiverse? Kratos was never meant to be. Think about it, there’s no written ending to the Greek gods in normal myth, and he changed Ragnarok too. So we won’t see “another Kratos” but we see similarities between pantheons, and apparently they all share an earth but different sections of it. Like how old man Logan travels and comes across different characters of the people he already knew who have passed in his timeline

You know you're early when the title makes a spelling error :))

Good video man missed ya Jon

After playing through every god of War game, that I could, i honestly do think that Ragnarök is my favorite. I’ll add to this by saying, I don’t know why we’re choosing this video of all videos to say which our favorite is, but since people are doing it, I thought I might as well do it too. Also, one last thing. I can safely say, that in my personal opinion, there really isn’t a single God of War game that is truly bad. Even Ascension I honestly really like. In a series of great and wonderful games, why are we so obsessed with putting just one up on a pedestal, and basically saying “this one, this is the one that’s truly the best, and no other comes close.” That’s just ridiculous. They’re all great games in their own ways.

As someone who only played the Norse games I don’t try to comment on how things have changed simply because I have not played the old games but I just personally enjoy the growth of Kratos going from a cold, guilt ridden and neglectful dad to a warm father who is now loved by the world he helped save from Odin. From what i’m seeing of the old game God of War 3 it seems that set up for his growth was planned for a new game to tackle.

I follow God of war since the beginning it was nice to see Kratos change to what he's become he was fated to be a monster and fated to take down the corrupt ways of the gods for better or worse. He was raised as a soldier lost his brother tricked to kill his wife and child lied to by those who were supposed to be family learnt that vengeance didn't make everything right got a new family saw his old ways were not the best way. He raised a fine young man. His son also fated to bring change better or for worse he lived to learn that there's more to life but his own he had a closed heart but learnt to open it and learn from his past to help the future. Yeah if this is it for Kratos great he deserved it. Heck I'd be just fine playing as Kratos going around helping people and doing good pick up were Tyr left off.

People chose Ragnarok Kratos because...... He has a beard

I personally think that it's not that Kratos changed too much, as like you said he was always meant to, but simply that he seems to have changed too quickly over the course of just one game (Ragnarok). One could chalk the seemingly sudden change in character up to 2018 originally being intended as the first of a new trilogy although that decision was changed somewhere after the fact. Granted, there was also a few years of off-screen change for Kratos between the two games. Ragnarok itself as a game feels like it was originally meant to be two games with two games worth of story & character development crammed into one game, so the plot suffers in places and certain characters change seemingly out of nowhere because they have to be in certain positions for the latter section of the story to happen.

I feel like Kratos is one of most fleshed out characters in games... especially because we actually see and play how he acted back in greece. Not just read it, or get it explained by someone... as Kratos said it himself in 3 "My vengence ends now."

I always like how in GOW 2018 Kratos always has to say that any favor he does to someone was for a selfish reason and because he could benefit from it. I believe that is just him trying to convince himself he is no longer doing things for others because he doesn't want to feel used again as the pantheon had used him for so long

Perfect.

Me personally, I've always pictured Kratos singlehandedly destroying all pantheons one by one (from weakest to strongest) and putting an end to the concepts of religion and mythology as a whole, but for more heroic reasons and they all get replaced by the power of hope and balance afterwards. I've also envisioned the GOW franchise merging/crossing over with Jeff Smith's Bone franchise, with Kratos and Fone Bone basically becoming amalgamated and he has his scrapped blue tattoo look.

Here’s the thing he can tap in to the killer he once was but for the legit reasons doesn’t make it right but a killer all the same And also I guarantee that a vast majority of that poll is ppl that jus started at either 3 or the 2018 game

people who says he has become too emotional probably havent played the old games. he has always kinda been the defintion of emotion. its what drives him

Kratos breaks the prophecy by truly changing down to his core, he's supposed to die because it's "fate" but the only reason fate exists is because 9 outta ten times people don't change thus tying them to fate being on how kratos truly changes when telling Atreus to open his heart in this action and his fight with Thor where he chooses to stop fighting he breaks his bond to fate being on how people don't change it makes them predictable thus tying them to their fate and with the final piece of the prophecy shows kratos the destroyer dying and Kratos the rebuilder standing tall with love and adoration

I love the new version of kratos have anybody ever heard of character development kratos was epic in Greece yes but the plot have to move forward i love that he becoming a better person if anybody deserves to be in a better head space it's kratos this is the character that's been through so much trauma in his past more so thin any other protagonist in a video game y would you want to see him suffer endlessly

I found something, although I don't know if it has any significance, when Thor dies, he fades away which has been known, however, when Freya breaks the spell odin put on her, she has the same fading affect on her arms, I'm curious to see what your thought behind this is.

Kratos change made me change. Ragnarok changed me.

People might be overlooking the whole plot twist that faye changed his fate. He was supposed to die protecting Atreus from Zeus. Her love led his path towards redemption.

the most frustrating thing is that Kratos was pretty much canceled from the game because of an early story writing that he supposed to die. that is clear to me.

1st I was just thinking about this and your old theory of some other force keeping kratos alive and having certain events take place Also yay more gow vids-

I don’t want Kratos to change, but I did want at least a few minutes of him going hulk mode and showing what he’s actually capable of. I know heimdall was supposed to be that moment, but it still felt like he was holding back

Maybe people want the old combat system back(I'm one of those people) maybe that's why they like the old kratos and they old style finishers

In god of war 3 in the end of the game were kratos was look at the world I think he saw the light coming out of the clouds and possibly change the way he looked at the world

Great video lil homie! But, I'm just stuck in my ways, because I prefer TC Carson's RAGEY Kratos!l But, I do understand why Chris Judge was chosen! Not to say that he didn't do a great job! He's been phenomenal! But, I just prefer the rage sound, to the grumpy old man sound! Lol

Kratos always wanted to change but the greek gods did him dirty, especially his own father zeus

Calm and collected kratos Is the better version but I like the blood lust n ruthless kratos n that what others feel as well. Ofc they want kratos to change into a better version of himself but that ruthlessness is our favorite

Having kids changes people!

"Disney character"? Bruh. He still kills enemies. It's just he chose not to kill gods anymore. Who even wrote that?

Two thousand and 2018..

Agreed

Wait so Kratos can’t evolve and Mature? He’s always lived in guilt. He got a 2nd chance to be a father again . So why can’t he do it right the 2nd time

Before the soft reboot, a big criticism of the gow games was that he was getting stale. Literally fixed this post reboot and now people complain again?

"Nothing is written that cannot be unwritten" Tbh i love old KRATOS and but the new KRATOS i love it but i don't like it in RAGNAROK seriously they actually made him like a anti-hero which tbh in 2018 it was good but i don't like it in RAGNAROK

In plus Disney is for kids you can't lie the new game is definitely for kids. Hopefully if he travels back to Greek we can see all of the old creatures plus new ones. And lots of brutality and blood for the purpose of good instead of revenge.

Hey jon

Accept it he is Better!

As you said tooo much change in kratos caracter which is bad. Kratos is god of distruction and revenge. In Ragnarok we see a normal man who accepte jokes and talke too much for him the way he opened for freya. I thought for a second that he actually like her and she like him, but no.

Dear 21%, If Kratos didn’t change/grow, GoW would be boring after 3. Sincerely, Another GoW fan

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After playing both of them, 2018 is far better

Here me out on this, maybe it's not the old Kratos everyone misses, it's the old game's combat/weapons systems.

God Of War 4 Kratos Will Be Epic In Being Serious And Ragnarok Kratos Acts More Like He Is A Disney Character Hope There Was More Building Of The 2018 Kratos man

He still wears the ashes of his dead family on his skin. He crossed a line. We are who we are. Life has stages quite alright but Kratos crossed a line and can’t be redeemed no matter how the writers wanted us to believe he’s changed. That’s why Ragnarok flopped cos they tried to make him whom he’s not.

No *his fate was to make more money* and abandon the real image of what a "Kratos" should be ,leaving us pissed off off the "Holding back" complex😒.

I disagree. I think this new God of war feel too Disney. Kratos feels too weak and watered down for my liking.

New God of war games are good movies bad games.

Hey Jon I read the title 😭 I think you meant, meant?

"For the sake of our children"🐐⛓⚔🪓