Kratos Secret DEATH Theory EXPLAINED! | NEW God of War Ragnarök Theory

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Jon Ford

Jon Ford

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Kratos may have been planned to die all along in God of War Ragnarok! This theory was made by piecing together all of the moments that was NEVER explained!
Chapters-
0:00 Intro
1:24 Mural was always Kratos
3:00 Setups Never Explained
5:52 The Higher Plane of Existence
6:37 Kratos death story
11:40 Explained and Outro
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@JonFord
@JonFord 9 ай бұрын
YOOOO! We back baby!!! I have a TON of God of War videos is already made! See ya tomorrow!
@Kardignr
@Kardignr 9 ай бұрын
Hey Jon. What song is playing at 1:02 in the video?
@reno6614
@reno6614 9 ай бұрын
W
@kratos_theking
@kratos_theking 9 ай бұрын
@@Kardignr Anthem of the dead god of war
@Kardignr
@Kardignr 9 ай бұрын
​@@kratos_thekingthanks so much❤
@kratos_theking
@kratos_theking 9 ай бұрын
@@Kardignr you welcome ❤️
@shoresean1237
@shoresean1237 9 ай бұрын
I have a theory: To enhance his disguise, Odin used some kind of soul-blinding magic he had learned or gleaned or even plain invented based on other giant teachings. It fooled everyone - except the person who had an incomplete soul. Of course, the deception was aided by people making assumptions about how broken Tyr was, but the spell was a useful secondary cover - but not for Brok.
@erico2079
@erico2079 9 ай бұрын
brok was fooled as well...he figured it out when Odin/Tyr called atreus by loki...so yah it only failed because odin slipped up
@gingersperg
@gingersperg 9 ай бұрын
If the spell required people to have all parts of their soul, why do you think didn't brok notice immediately? It's a good theory and a good idea to bring brok's back story into it, but I don't think he would have allowed odin to stay in his house that long. I think the reality is he just figured him out. It plays into this idea that brok, whilst being the 'family dog' as Eric put it, is also the pragmatic one.
@shoresean1237
@shoresean1237 9 ай бұрын
@@gingersperg I am not saying he saw through it; the disguise was still excellent, and relied chiefly on the allowances made for a broken Tyr. That said, the spell began to smooth any suspicions past that. Brok's contrarian nature started this questioning, which normally the spell would have shut down somewhat. All probably questioned this find, but only the person with an incomplete soul kept on doing so - till it was too late.
@gingersperg
@gingersperg 9 ай бұрын
@@shoresean1237 You seem to be implying noone else in that room, helldisvini, kratos, atreus, sindri, Freya, freyr, could possibly have come to that conclusion or are perhaps blinded to it, specifically because they had all 4 parts of their soul. I don't see where you've explained how brok missing part of his soul is the reason that he put the parts together. It was just his nature.
@Kero-zc5tc
@Kero-zc5tc 9 ай бұрын
The best I could come up with is that brok didn’t have his direction so he didn’t overlook the sus parts like others as they needed tyr. Another interesting thought is tyrs name being spelt different in the subtitles which could suggest that kratos’ soul was different cos different mythologies and as such odins spell wasn’t tuned for Greek souls
@aozf05
@aozf05 9 ай бұрын
This is less of a theory and more of a fanfic. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I think the game is already plenty clear about the ending. Kratos was "fated" to die because the Norns and giants believed people don't change. They believed one's past actions always dictate what they will do in the future so they never could have predicted that Kratos would undergo a fundamental change in who he was. By realizing his way was wrong and embracing Atreus's ways, it changed everything. He reached out to Thor as a father instead of trying to fight him to the death, which Kratos would have lost as he did in the beginning. It was one detail that was changed in a larger event that ultimately went as predicted. Angrboda's description of predictions was spot on.
@xXLilSmurthXx
@xXLilSmurthXx 4 ай бұрын
Kratos was not going to lose to Thor in the second fight. Kratos only lost the first fight because he did not have the Blades of Choas with him. The blades empower Kratos, further increasing his strength and durability.
@aozf05
@aozf05 4 ай бұрын
@@xXLilSmurthXx He was going to lose according to the prediction because the Norns and giants assumed he would revert to his god-killing ways and try to fight Thor to the death. And they predict in such a fight, Kratos would lose. This ends up not happening because Kratos undergoes a change of heart that the Norns never could have predicted would happen because they believe nobody's nature can change. Kratos doesn't try to kill Thor and instead tries to connect with him. The reason he doesn't die in the second fight has nothing to do with power or equipment. It's all about Kratos finding his humanity. This is the crux of Kratos's entire journey in the Norse saga.
@OffTheBlaze.
@OffTheBlaze. 3 ай бұрын
Nah Thor was getting raw dogged by kratos. If Thor wouldn’t have surrendered he would’ve died right there. Although if that happened i think it would’ve lead to Atreus choosing to see inside the rift and help Odin which would’ve given him the power to kill kratos
@aozf05
@aozf05 3 ай бұрын
@@OffTheBlaze. The prophecy shows Thor standing over Kratos, not Odin.
@ABG_SPARTAN
@ABG_SPARTAN 9 ай бұрын
This was really nice Jon 💯 excited to see you back bro
@SmurfsUp93
@SmurfsUp93 9 ай бұрын
My theory is that when Kratos went into the light of Alfheim in 2018 with Fayes ashes Faye imbedded one of the four parts of her soul into him and that's how she is able to contact him through his dreams. It would also make sense as to why he's able to hear her when he is at the light of Alfheim again in Ragnarok because that part of her soul is ringing inside of him. Such as why Atreus could hear her in 2018 but couldn't in Ragnarok.
@youngguapo4006
@youngguapo4006 9 ай бұрын
Great to see you back Jon 🫡
@jpt00711
@jpt00711 9 ай бұрын
I have never seen anyone talk about GOW with such passion. Your theories (and by extention videos) are moving. Nice one 👍🏻
@pac-vy1nj
@pac-vy1nj 9 ай бұрын
Look up God of war youtuber @Cookingwithkratos
@JonFord
@JonFord 7 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@dmac93065
@dmac93065 9 ай бұрын
Nice to see you back, and with some fresh God of War content no less! I like your theory and would have preferred a second entry that went as described in this video. The temptation for Kratos to return to the path of vengeance would have been strong. I would love to have seen that internal struggle fleshed out more in Ragnarök. As released, we really only saw this dynamic come to the forefront with Heimdall and Thor. I would have preferred to see more encounters where Kratos had to wrestle with that.
@Legrandmachincalme
@Legrandmachincalme 9 ай бұрын
Awesome video, can’t wait to see the rest 😊 ✌🏽
@SHADOW_XYZ.
@SHADOW_XYZ. 9 ай бұрын
It's nice to see you back John
@SheikhShaikh1
@SheikhShaikh1 9 ай бұрын
Ayyyy the return of the Lore GOAT 🐐, can’t wait to see what theories u been cooking Jon!
@defaltbot5792
@defaltbot5792 9 ай бұрын
Kratos is destroyer of worlds. He is not just a god of war but he is death itself .. thanatos did not come back to life . The reason the Gods did not come back in greece and in midgard was due to Kratos’s personification of being the bringer of death. Kratos was supposed to die in battle with thor. There was supposed to be a time skip in which he gets rescued by artreus when he becomes older . He would then bring death to Asgard .
@Goldening
@Goldening 9 ай бұрын
What a banging theory, keep it up im glad youre still going
@One-kf9er
@One-kf9er 8 ай бұрын
Bro this is some awesome shit wish you got more recognition.
@gingersperg
@gingersperg 9 ай бұрын
So Faye gave kratos control of his fate by destroying the mural. Crazy theory/prediction incoming: Perhaps she will have been so blinded by her hatred with thor, she didn't think he'd be noble enough to betray odin. So when she sees him in the higher plane of existence, they fight. This is assuming Faye is in the higher plane, which I believe she must be in order to reach out with kratos, and considering how consequential her actions were. This would be a great plot point, for the world to be so impacted by their fight that atreus manages to find his way there and witness the aftermath.
@pac-vy1nj
@pac-vy1nj 9 ай бұрын
Nice theory bro ❤❤❤ but, That is not kratos on the jothien mural in the 2018 game. Its odin, and here i can prove it. Wanna kno how i know it was odin *Bc its what happens in the ragnarok game!* kratos said in lore n legends and in the novel that the man atreas was holding "looked unfamiler to him. He didnt reconize the man" not to mention faye ALWAYS KNEW IT WOULD BE ODIN. Which again IS WHAT HAPPENS IN THE GAME! 1)The norms said "u will die kratos of sparta" and kratos of sparta did die. He changed, he opended his heart. The old kratos is dead and gone. 2nd the writer matt said that kratos would have died if he kept fighting thor HOWEVER he didnt keep fighting tho did he? And 3rd (and most of all) FAYE DREW HIM BEING WORSHIPED which is what she knew would happen all along. Rember the mural in jothim from the 2018 game was drawn by FAYE (Cory barlog) and the mural in ironwood was drawn by angerboda(eric williams) Jon my friend please do not let them fool you. Its 100% CONFIRMED that the giants knew odin would ""die"" in the arms of loki. (Not to mention u can see odins eye patch on the 2018 game mural) and the giants always knew loki would leave... Which..... *IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS IN THE GAME!* THE PROOF IS IN THE VERY GAME WE PLAY! Oh and btw, We kno these directors will tell a lie to preserve their story. Example: (Eric williams said they were not doing DLC during multiple spoiler cast) YET The Snitch on twitter confirms they are tho. Oh and that guy Cooking With Kratos Said 7 months ago that DLC was coming. 😮[His video is still up btw]😮 "They called him a mad man"
@gingersperg
@gingersperg 9 ай бұрын
​@@pac-vy1nj Just because it's what happened, it doesn't mean they didn't prophecies otherwise. Remember, Faye destroyed the entire rest of the mural after falling out with her people. She taught kratos to open his heart and forge his own path. She clearly knew this would work and wanted noone else to know, as she hid the updated mural so angrboda would find it after ragnarok. It's confirmed that this is kratos by the people who made the damn game. Eitherway, this has nothing to do with my theory. 😂
@mrgm5652
@mrgm5652 9 ай бұрын
Great to see you making gow videos
@AbhishekKr.Singh1609
@AbhishekKr.Singh1609 9 ай бұрын
Return of the king You were missed brother
@gingersperg
@gingersperg 9 ай бұрын
In your theory, the handprint could be the reason faye grew weak in the first place: some sort of jotnar magic in which she put her soul into kratos.
@gameover2k640
@gameover2k640 9 ай бұрын
My thing is how long does it take to reach that higher realm after death because technically thor killed kratos in that first fight but kratos didn't materialize into that green dust or go to any place maybe because he revived him too quick but when Thor got killed he materialized immediately
@JonFord
@JonFord 9 ай бұрын
Thor brought Kratos back to life immediately. So we never saw what would happen to kratos's soul
@gingersperg
@gingersperg 9 ай бұрын
@@gameover2k640 Edit: see my comment below.
@gameover2k640
@gameover2k640 9 ай бұрын
@@JonFord I kind of figured that but still bears the question of how long do you have to be dead for your soul to transition to another realm and is it based on what realm or Pantheon you die in, if he dies in Greece he goes to Hades but if he dies in Norse does he go to Valhalla or perhaps this higher plane of existence but yeah definitely would like to know how long do you have to stay dead before you transition because Thor brought him back so quickly he might have not had time to but again when Odin killed Thor it seemed almost instant he wouldn't have even had time to bring him back and kratos was dead for a good eight seconds longer than Thor was
@pac-vy1nj
@pac-vy1nj 9 ай бұрын
​​@@gameover2k640the only reason why thor turned blue and athena turned green like that is because, they both died selflessly. They both went to a higher place. Idk why its so confusing. Lol. Even the writers said that "kratos was gonna die in his first fight with thor and end up in HELLHIEM" So no his soul wouldn't go anywhere. Dont over think it my friends. ❤
@Epictook
@Epictook 9 ай бұрын
It most definitely is kratos on the mural because it has his tattoos and the chain marks on his arms
@pac-vy1nj
@pac-vy1nj 9 ай бұрын
Thats him on the mural ANGERBODA SHOWS but thats not him on the 2018 mural. That my friend is odin. U can even see his eye patch.
@altair227
@altair227 9 ай бұрын
​@@pac-vy1njno eye patch on the 2018 that was Kratos dying in the arms of Atreus. Even Kratos confirmed this to Atreus when both were in helheim.
@sheldonmustdie2
@sheldonmustdie2 9 ай бұрын
its the curse on him that keeps bring him but kratos has to live in endless torment thats why he keeps coming back
@originalSiiiN
@originalSiiiN 8 ай бұрын
when i was playing Ragnarok for the first time, when the forces gathered to storm Asgard, right as Kratos gave his war speech and blew the horn, THAT'S when i thought the game would end!! just like GOW2!! for some reason that felt better to me, a nice dramatic cliffhanger entering us into the third installment of this trilogy... oh well 😢
@DJAlexander-cj3mp
@DJAlexander-cj3mp 9 ай бұрын
Also most people did know this but wonder woman and kratos are siblings bc there father is Zeus
@omaralsharabati5873
@omaralsharabati5873 9 ай бұрын
Pretty good video! Although I don’t think this was the case, considering they already put that idea in the game sort of(faye talking with krate and such). But this could happen.
@YannMetalhead
@YannMetalhead 8 ай бұрын
Good video.
@JonFord
@JonFord 7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@xBOBOxFebreez
@xBOBOxFebreez 9 ай бұрын
One thing I'm absolutely adamant on is that the only mural, vision, fate that didn't come true is kratos dying. This combined with stuff like who blew the horn, the giants being dead, the gods not coming back, atreus clearly saying that odin said he found a way to avoid dying, and also how odin put nidhogg in kratos path makes me believe theres more to this story. The last part of ragnarok feels quick and odins defeat is almost anticlimactic. I remember getting a visceral feeling of "somethings strange here" when kratos was at the war camp. It felt like maybe it wasnt real or maybe a surprise attack was coming, one of those feelings. As much as I enjoyed the game and story for how it is, maybe there's a chance this aspect of it was on purpose instead of caused by changes during development? Or maybe they could take advantage of this aspect of the game and the things i first mentioned to recover the ending a bit? Not that its bad, i just cant help but feel theres more to it. Maybe the leaked dlc will be a big extension of the story that covers this, or maybe it'll resurface in a later game
@user-mo5yx4ct6z
@user-mo5yx4ct6z 9 ай бұрын
They will definitely continue the Norse story. They dropped a huge hint that Odin is still alive and we also know that forseti (God of Justice) is also looking for kratos. Secondly yes the ending and the game itself felt incomplete. Firstly they had to cut alot of content that they originally planned for the trilogy. Imagine the potential Norse saga could have had they continued with the trilogy. Sad.
@xBOBOxFebreez
@xBOBOxFebreez 9 ай бұрын
@@user-mo5yx4ct6z i dont think they needed a 3rd game honestly. Its not worth 15+ years to dedicate to a story that was basically complete. It was just that end piece, mainly how all the realms agreed to help kratos and then the battle and then killing odin, all were too short IMO. However like i was pointing out and like u mentioned, odin could come back and they could redeem the story but it would also be BETTER than a normal trilogy. I like the idea of us thinking its over but then a new trailer drops and we find out odins plan worked and now maybe they go back in time to change events, leading to odin not being killed. They could even change how time travel works since greek magic doesnt work in the norse realm, so maybe time travel works differently as well. Thats why we see all of the dead giants, because of time travel shenanigans. And that could also be why kratos dying is the only mural/prediction to not come true, because he could die in the next part of the story. Its important to keep in mind that he could die the way jon mentions in the video where he isnt gone but just in some other realm, either valhalla or the real realm of the gods (higher plane of existence where athena went)
@kayballer_
@kayballer_ 9 ай бұрын
For some reason I feel/felt like this wasn't the real Ragnarok but when I think to myself that wouldn't make sense but you're right and I agree like what if there's another bigger, better, scarier and more fatal game/war of GOW coming
@pac-vy1nj
@pac-vy1nj 9 ай бұрын
Wait at 6:58 u say kratos would die and go to a diff world HOWEVER didnt matt and rich confirm that kratos was gonna die and go to hellheim, and adult loki would come and save him?
@pac-vy1nj
@pac-vy1nj 9 ай бұрын
Nice video tho bro. I still fks with you. 💪
@draig3963
@draig3963 9 ай бұрын
I have a little modified one As kratos dies he is sent to higher plane of exsistence and meet faye and faye tells him that he ended up in there because he died himself selfishlessly for aterus but he has the choice to go back as he rules over death itself while all this is happening odin manages to assemble the mask give aterus the horn for his assurance during the search of mask and as odin is ready to enter into the ridge kratos comes out of it and stands in between ridge and odin and confronts odin and accepts he killed kratos as he is not in full control of himself as he is about to get what he wanted for his whole life and aterus shocked blows the horn and come forward surtur and his lover (forgot her name) and fuse to destroy all the asgard and kratos use his spear to break the mask that is in hand of odin and mask goes into the ridge and odin begs kratos to tell him what he saw in there and kratos tells him that it is a place for those who dies for others wellfare and as ragnarok is upon them odin has no chance of redemption and odin goes mad then final fight
@yuantian3192
@yuantian3192 7 ай бұрын
This is the most beautiful theory how Ragnarok could have ended! It almost brought tears to my eyes. Thank you Jon!! ❤
@coreyleader6206
@coreyleader6206 9 ай бұрын
They awkwardly and clearly changed what they were going to do in ragnorak to the point that they forgot plot points, but yet it was praised as amazing
@user-mo5yx4ct6z
@user-mo5yx4ct6z 9 ай бұрын
True. The plot was very weak and lame. That dark and gritty tone of GOW2018 was no where to be seen in Ragnarok. I think alot of this has to do with the Norse naga not being a trilogy. They had to cut alot of content that they had originally planned for the trilogy. Also to notice that the writers of GOW18 Mat Sophos and Gaubert were not happy with the changes Eric Williams did to GOW Ragnarok. Not that they said it directly. But you could tell by their tone. So I short. We can only imagine the potential of Norse saga had it been a trilogy
@odysseus1131
@odysseus1131 9 ай бұрын
​@@user-mo5yx4ct6zFreya from this kind and caring person in 2018 to this angry and mercy less mother, sindri the germaphobe to this sad broken dwarf is not dark enough for you?
@kayballer_
@kayballer_ 9 ай бұрын
​@@user-mo5yx4ct6zI liked the dark/gritty tone of 2018 but I like Ragnarok a little more
@kayballer_
@kayballer_ 9 ай бұрын
​@@user-mo5yx4ct6zif Cory and those other 2 directed ragnarok we would've had a way better game
@erico2079
@erico2079 9 ай бұрын
alot of people just go with the flow...spine isnt strong enough to call the BS when they see it
@GRUSTLER
@GRUSTLER 9 ай бұрын
Raganarok was supposed to answer our questions but the guy in charge tried to out do Cory Balrog instead of building on top of the foundation laid.
@RossoNero1987
@RossoNero1987 9 ай бұрын
The theory about Faye's mark and the trilogy idea is the best we can come up with. 👍
@silverslider562
@silverslider562 6 ай бұрын
NGL the Norse mythology is way more complex to follow than the Greek mythology and 1/2 the time I didn’t understand the finer details of some of the Norse lore and still can’t pronounce 1/2 the Norse realms but I’m just glad we’re all here together having a good time.
@blooddixmond
@blooddixmond 5 ай бұрын
When is the part 2 bro 😈😈😈😈💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@kayballer_
@kayballer_ 9 ай бұрын
They definitely couldve made Ragnarok/Ragnaroks story better but im happy with what we got
@pac-vy1nj
@pac-vy1nj 9 ай бұрын
Man shiiiiiid😂 dont shill for them bro. We were let down down down down down. Str8 up
@fantasticgameplay9327
@fantasticgameplay9327 9 ай бұрын
Yes god of war videos
@pac-vy1nj
@pac-vy1nj 9 ай бұрын
2:25 no sir. That is not kratos on the jothien mural in the 2018 game. Its odin, and here i can prove it. Wanna kno how i know it was odin *Bc its what happens in the ragnarok game!* kratos said in lore n legends and in the novel that the man atreas was holding "looked unfamiler to him. He didnt reconize the man" not to mention faye ALWAYS KNEW IT WOULD BE ODIN. Which again IS WHAT HAPPENS IN THE GAME! 1)The norms said "u will die kratos of sparta" and kratos of sparta did die. He changed, he opended his heart. The old kratos is dead and gone. 2nd the writer matt said that kratos would have died if he kept fighting thor HOWEVER he didnt keep fighting tho did he? And 3rd (and most of all) FAYE DREW HIM BEING WORSHIPED which is what she knew would happen all along. Rember the mural in jothim from the 2018 game was drawn by FAYE (Cory barlog) and the mural in ironwood was drawn by angerboda(eric williams) Jon my friend please do not let them fool you. Its 100% CONFIRMED that the giants knew odin would ""die"" in the arms of loki. (Not to mention u can see odins eye patch on the 2018 game mural) and the giants always knew loki would leave... Which..... *IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS IN THE GAME!* THE PROOF IS IN THE VERY GAME WE PLAY! I refuse to let someone pee on me and tell me its raining. Do you?
@yerielsantiago1
@yerielsantiago1 6 ай бұрын
This is actually a good theory I feel like it makes sense why the director of GOW Ragnarok wanted kratos to have dreams with Faye everytime he went to sleep ha good theory bro 😉👍
@vegapreferred9344
@vegapreferred9344 8 ай бұрын
That’s weird because in the original tale baldur does come back once Ragnarok comes
@geeharris6927
@geeharris6927 9 ай бұрын
I think im playing 2018 and Ragnarok when i get off tonight
@villagomez419
@villagomez419 6 ай бұрын
And now we have a dlc with him finding a way to Valhalla, Mr. Ford was right y’all
@lordbowser9932
@lordbowser9932 8 ай бұрын
What’s the music that plays in the intro called?
@sheldonmustdie2
@sheldonmustdie2 9 ай бұрын
thats a good theory
@bphater31
@bphater31 9 ай бұрын
"Death can have me... when it earns me..."
@jordansimeonov1501
@jordansimeonov1501 9 ай бұрын
This is better than the main plot
@ebl7610
@ebl7610 9 ай бұрын
Would have been an awesome way for everything to unfold. I love Ragnarok but it definitely feels rushed, especially after playing it through multiple times. The Norse pantheon definitely needed a third game
@Kevink4240
@Kevink4240 9 ай бұрын
If Only Ragnarok could have had 3 parts! Your theory is amazingly well thought, of course it needs to get deeper into details that are necessary into creating the Big Picture, but only if we ever had 3 sequels! This game is already a masterpiece but it had the potential to be something even better! The only thing I can personally say is this ... as long as money gets involved into big corporations like Sony, and they can make profits within less time, it would only benefit them mostly rather than us! They give the orders, gaming studios execute them and we know the rest! 🤷🏻‍♂️🥲😏
@sstratuz5468
@sstratuz5468 9 ай бұрын
So will Thrud be a Valkyrie with Thor’s hammer?
@babyatemydingo574
@babyatemydingo574 7 ай бұрын
Couldnt we just explain it by saying that Kratos as the God of War died and he now lives as a wiser, less hateful being who will now go on to be worshiped as a god of sowmthing greater? To my knowledge, the only person said to have made the older prophecies was Groa so she probbaly made both the one showing Kratos dead and the one showing him being worshiped after being victorious in Ragnarok. Its likely that Groa 1. Was just decieving Odin or 2. Knew that it would cheapen or even prevent Kratos' growth if he knew how he would be revered at the end or 3. Both.
@Omnipulsar
@Omnipulsar 9 ай бұрын
my question is wouldnt thor and odin remember this encounter of killing kratos just for him to return somehow?
@anselmopat4985
@anselmopat4985 9 ай бұрын
Fascinating theory but I think it was revealed that we would go to Kratos would go to helheim and atreus would rescue him The gods either go to helheim or Valhalla as it’s confirmed. The only exception was Odin who truly doesn’t know what happens to him after ragnarok when he dies Also they said it was always going to be 2 games because Cory wanted it to be this way ( and in retrospect thank god because waiting 5 years again to get a game on the same story would be too much. It worked for the Greek games because they were shorter and came out at a faster rate) Love your theory tho keep them coming brother 😊
@altair227
@altair227 9 ай бұрын
We nrver waited 5 years for the god of war greek games at best it was 2 years and 4 months was the period. between ascension and ghost of sparta. Every 3 years a game is good if it takes longer like 5 years a game like the norse saga is boring. Well (4 years and 6 months excatly).
@srisanandreas
@srisanandreas 8 ай бұрын
Where would odin go when he dies? Won't he go to the same place which is trying so hard to get to ?
@ayyoubbt
@ayyoubbt 8 ай бұрын
I wish ragnarok wasn’t too colorful, I hate how they eliminated the serious tone like 2018.. god of war always been grimy and cruel universe I wish they keep it that way in the future
@jatindersandhu7276
@jatindersandhu7276 9 ай бұрын
This is the best theory and if this happened, all fans being enjoyed playing another part of GOW.
@radicaldreamer
@radicaldreamer 9 ай бұрын
Maybe the real reason Kratos' kills aren't coming back to life, is they are being sent to the Greek underworld. XD
@Steef_Lee
@Steef_Lee 9 ай бұрын
Didn’t Corey confirm Kratos was going to Die and we would be in Valhalla or something? I can’t remember exactly but I swear he there was something confirmed about Kratos dying at one point when it was going to be 3 games.
@DanielWayne-fl3dj
@DanielWayne-fl3dj 9 ай бұрын
Wish they did that instead of rushing gow ragnarok
@barringtonjohnson2925
@barringtonjohnson2925 9 ай бұрын
In retrospect Ragnarok should’ve been a 2 parter. SOOO much more could’ve been added/explored with the story AND done with the final Ragnarok battle. What we got wasn’t anticlimactic BUUUT…. I expected more.🤷🏾‍♂️
@darkpain2452
@darkpain2452 9 ай бұрын
Kratos can't die,this is his fate, it's Don't matter how manys times, death could never takes Kratos, but him fighting thor, will only destroy his redemptiom or his new path, faye did believe him to point she changed his fate and that why she must die, considering she is stronger to fight at thor level, she is full vegeance but gives up her anger to free kratos once for all, of his manipulated fate, that why she must die, kratos at the end finds new way, the god of war is over, thor could truly never finish kratos but kratos himself will become monster, he really is going suicide again before harm Atreus
@brad3950
@brad3950 9 ай бұрын
I think Kratos was gonna die but when the last of is 2 came out they had enough time to change it.
@davids2cents594
@davids2cents594 9 ай бұрын
the god of war did die at the end. kratos is a different type of god now
@austinhunter5602
@austinhunter5602 9 ай бұрын
I really like this theory, but I don't think this is what the writers were ultimately going for. The way how prophecy is betrayed in these games is as a series of choices people make that can be used to predict outcomes. So keeping that in mind the idea that Faye set things up to have these words with Kratos in the afterlife doesnt full hold up IMO. Instead I think it has something to do with my theory on the relationship between Odin and Faye, its a really long theory but to sum it up in as few words as possible I think that Faye is Odin's daughter and was raised in Asgard and she helped him with his mask project. This helps explain several things throughout 2018 and Ragnarok. The 2 most notable are how she knew so much of not only Odins plans, but also how to change Kratos to advert his doom that was fortold. And why the Giants didnt trust her in the murals, due to her being raised by Odin. Now what does that have to do with the afterlife and its mysteries? Time will tell, but I am nit sure of the problem is with the afterlife itself, because ot seems like theres an outside force interfering with it. Which is where Loki's daughter Hel might fit in and have her role to undo the interference.
@bingusbongus9807
@bingusbongus9807 9 ай бұрын
im my head kratos when he dies will always come back, they could make a game where he is just tortured forever in hell and i would go nuh uh, they could make a beautiful game of him finally being able to rest and move on and see caliope again and i would go nuh uh, every single person to ever work on god of war could say hes dead for realsy and i would say nuh uh
@andray310
@andray310 9 ай бұрын
I think maybe they will go this route with the DLC. Mimir said that Asgard exist in and out of Asgard so maybe Atreus will actually die and go to Asgard but find a way back somehow. Really looking forward to this DLC.
@kayballer_
@kayballer_ 9 ай бұрын
He said valhalla exists and out of asgard, not asgard that wouldn't make sense, anyways to add on to what you said, what if in the beginning we ply as Atreus doing stuff and then get in a battle and Atreus dies fighting who knows what/who then goes to valhalla and maybe is in danger or something and we as Kratos have to save Atreus but ofc we wouldn't fully play that in the DLC
@noahsibahi-jackson8757
@noahsibahi-jackson8757 9 ай бұрын
Very strange how Jon seems to fantasise about Kratos being killed off… you also seem to completely ignore the fact that gods do not have immortality outside of them being unable to die of old age, the only reason Kratos had cheated death so many times is because every time he died in the Greek trilogy he was helped by either the titans or Zeus the first time ironically enough or the third time in which he killed hades before he could permanently destroy Kratos by taking his soul or killing him in the underworld the same way that you die permentantly in dragon ball by dying in the after life… that being said, this could have in some ways proven to be a better ending than what we ended up getting
@Bammings
@Bammings 9 ай бұрын
🙂
@_Nonnez_
@_Nonnez_ 9 ай бұрын
Um akshually Calliope wouldn't be in higher plane of existence because she's still alive as soul in the Elysium Fields back in Greece!!! 🤓🤓🤓☝️☝️☝️
@thanos1335
@thanos1335 9 ай бұрын
I love how in reality, Kratos aint shit. Kratos was getting cooked and was boutta not only lose but also die so he activated cheats and got invincibility mode so he could win and become the GOW
@JonFord
@JonFord 9 ай бұрын
Can i post this take on Twitter? 🤣😂 Blurring out your name of course
@thanos1335
@thanos1335 9 ай бұрын
@@JonFord Go ahead, spread the truth brother.
@kingofeverything8833
@kingofeverything8833 9 ай бұрын
I’m glad I am not the only person who thinks the story we got in Ragnarok was mid. I have seen a lot of comments and videos on how the story should have gone. They ruined everything we loved about GOW with how it all played out.
@user-mo5yx4ct6z
@user-mo5yx4ct6z 9 ай бұрын
Yeah the gow 2018 writers aka Mat Sophos, and Gaubert did not have much freedom in gow Ragnarok as Eric changed alot of plots that were originally planned for the game. They said that their version of Odin would have been more cockiness and evil.
@pac-vy1nj
@pac-vy1nj 9 ай бұрын
​@@user-mo5yx4ct6z😂😂 and everyone was praising eric to high hell before the game released wasnt they? Oh yeah i saw em all. Its funny to go back and call them youtubers out. 😂
@charlesmatthews313
@charlesmatthews313 9 ай бұрын
I love the game but am I the only person kinda disappointed in the story
@user-sb6pm6jf2p
@user-sb6pm6jf2p 9 ай бұрын
yes
@manjupl2788
@manjupl2788 9 ай бұрын
Not disappointed but wanted a more badass thor fight scenes, odin past scenes, kratos going back to rage like the ol days etc.. But still happy with the story we got ✌️😄
@ML-ze1ji
@ML-ze1ji 9 ай бұрын
Man I really really hate GOW ragnarok ending. Its like the most generic ending - Ragnarok witch is the main event of this game didn’t last that long and it was really limited because of the ps4 . - They didn’t add the most wanted, iconic , fun weapon (Thor’s hammer ) and it would have worked if you think about it blades of chaos: light weapon leviathan axe: balanced weapon Thor’s hammer: heavy weapon but instead we got a boring , weak stick. all thanks to Eric Williams
@DarkoRavens
@DarkoRavens 9 ай бұрын
Kratos can't use Mjölnir anyway. It's coded to Thor and that of his bloodline. Odin and Thrud could use it just as well.
@ML-ze1ji
@ML-ze1ji 9 ай бұрын
@@DarkoRavens Eric Williams said in an interview “We didn’t add it because I thought it was expected” which is the dumbest reason in my opinion. expected doesn’t mean boring
@DarkoRavens
@DarkoRavens 9 ай бұрын
@ML-ze1ji It practically works the same way as the axe. You really want two of the same types of weapons?
@venom58565
@venom58565 Ай бұрын
Really kate but original prophecy should have be where kratos slowly turns into his old self where he fights thor and almost kills him that's where odin joins thor to attack kratos, kratos being crazy strong slowly overpowers them and goes more mad where he is stabbed by Atreus in the back who is brainwashed by odin.
@shinji391
@shinji391 9 ай бұрын
Of course the death mural isn't Kratos. We don't see his red tattoos, and he doesn't wear green!
@pac-vy1nj
@pac-vy1nj 9 ай бұрын
That is not kratos on the jothien mural in the 2018 game. Its odin, and here i can prove it. Wanna kno how i know it was odin *Bc its what happens in the ragnarok game!* kratos said in lore n legends and in the novel that the man atreas was holding "looked unfamiler to him. He didnt reconize the man" not to mention faye ALWAYS KNEW IT WOULD BE ODIN. Which again IS WHAT HAPPENS IN THE GAME! 1)The norms said "u will die kratos of sparta" and kratos of sparta did die. He changed, he opended his heart. The old kratos is dead and gone. 2nd the writer matt said that kratos would have died if he kept fighting thor HOWEVER he didnt keep fighting tho did he? And 3rd (and most of all) FAYE DREW HIM BEING WORSHIPED which is what she knew would happen all along. Rember the mural in jothim from the 2018 game was drawn by FAYE (Cory barlog) and the mural in ironwood was drawn by angerboda(eric williams) Jon my friend please do not let them fool you. Its 100% CONFIRMED that the giants knew odin would ""die"" in the arms of loki. (Not to mention u can see odins eye patch on the 2018 game mural) and the giants always knew loki would leave... Which..... *IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS IN THE GAME!* THE PROOF IS IN THE VERY GAME WE PLAY! Oh and btw, We kno these directors will tell a lie to preserve their story. Example: (Eric williams said they were not doing DLC during multiple spoiler cast) YET The Snitch on twitter confirms they are tho. Oh and that guy Cooking With Kratos Said 7 months ago that DLC was coming. 😮[His video is still up btw]😮 "They called him a mad man"
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