Kratos Remembers Calliope and Regrets Leaving Her - God of War Ragnarok Valhalla All Memories

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@superelite5133
@superelite5133 7 ай бұрын
Man it’s just sad seeing Kratos open up about this. leaving his daughter behind was the toughest choice he ever had to make.
@blazingswordsman5410
@blazingswordsman5410 7 ай бұрын
Yes it is indeed. I hope Calioppe forgives Kratos and understands why he left her.
@AkhshamiKsyAksKhaos
@AkhshamiKsyAksKhaos 7 ай бұрын
Hope…can make a dream come…into reality…
@milkysponge3318
@milkysponge3318 7 ай бұрын
I think it's even more sad that Kratos opens up about his past without Atreus knowing. Well Atreus never really gave a shit about his greece background anyway.
@dieuhungbanh19
@dieuhungbanh19 7 ай бұрын
@@milkysponge3318 Atreus would care, either Kratos thinks that he is not ready for the full story yet or he does not want him to hear it.
@isaacjones748
@isaacjones748 7 ай бұрын
to be fair the qte MASH X TO ABANDON CHILD was a tough one
@sunayocarissime5309
@sunayocarissime5309 7 ай бұрын
I remember playing that in Chains of Olympus and it broke my heart seeing Kratos having to push Calliope away. Kratos really is a tortured soul.😭😭😭
@Beaver_Monday
@Beaver_Monday 7 ай бұрын
Making the scene where he pushes Calliope into a button mash quicktime event was funny af tho
@sunayocarissime5309
@sunayocarissime5309 7 ай бұрын
@@Beaver_Monday Yeah that at least lightened the mood.😂
@cardinalchaos2278
@cardinalchaos2278 7 ай бұрын
I’m convinced that pushing away his daughter was the most painful thing Kratos ever had to do. More painful than dying, more painful than burning alive, even more painful than carving out his own heart with a rusty/dull spoon.
@edrickt5907
@edrickt5907 7 ай бұрын
It is and it was reflected to the players even. Thats single handedly the hardest QTE event in the entire series, you have to mash that circle button like The Flash
@neo-warkid4edwards222
@neo-warkid4edwards222 2 ай бұрын
@@edrickt5907 and one commentator said that pushing away Calliope was the equivalent of killing three Minotaurs via the circle button
@retrodoodmanx7161
@retrodoodmanx7161 7 ай бұрын
Man, this dlc is a therapy to Kratos. And like the gates said, MASTER THYSELF. That includes all the good and the bad things you have done from the past to the present.
@modelotime3608
@modelotime3608 7 ай бұрын
this dlc is such a treat, there was so much more i wanted kratos to go into depth. this is literally what i needed thank you santa monica studios
@d3beatzz
@d3beatzz 7 ай бұрын
I love how he also touches on his relationship with Faye, how it felt for him moving to move onto a new family, compared to his earlier family
@lorenzorodriguez9481
@lorenzorodriguez9481 7 ай бұрын
I find it sad that he doesn't remember the song of his daughter's flute. 😢 But at the same time, it was so long ago that I couldn't blame him. Especially after finding peace with his new family
@firxanza5172
@firxanza5172 7 ай бұрын
this was in the Chains of Olympus storyline Kratos saw Calliope in the Underworld and was tricked by Persephone into giving up all his powers just so he could see her again Persephone then revealed that she planned on destroying the whole world and Elysium Fields would also be doomed in order to save his daughter, Kratos had to leave her again and suffer the consequences of never being able to be with her again he killed all the souls in Elysium except for Calliope and regained his powers, he then chased Persephone down and killed her, but she cursed him and said that his suffering will never end, and she was right, it never did after Kratos killed Hades, the Underworld was left in shambles, all the souls escaped and had no place to go, I assume Elysium Fields also collapsed? well, if Calliope's soul was also one of those that left the Underworld, she's probably still alive out there, as a wandering lost spirit
@Darknova591
@Darknova591 7 ай бұрын
not the whole world the Greece world.
@TheZombiesAreComing
@TheZombiesAreComing 7 ай бұрын
​@@Darknova591 The Greece DIMENSION
@ESTERZEOFF
@ESTERZEOFF 7 ай бұрын
"and hope she found peace" THAT'S what a good parent should think of and wish for all the time, that their child can ever accept and cope with the fact that the parent is forever gone, instead of drowning in sorrow and pain
@joshuamohlman
@joshuamohlman 7 ай бұрын
It would be a touching moment if Atreus met Calliope as a spirit someday
@TitanWar93
@TitanWar93 7 ай бұрын
It would have been nice to see him interact with a sister he never knew or met. All we know is that he knows of his Greek heritage.
@gozogo1233
@gozogo1233 7 ай бұрын
Well, he sorta already looks at her just by looking at Kratos
@cvill03
@cvill03 7 ай бұрын
​@TitanWar93 that's why still get the feeling Calliope could return in some form. The fact we are in two games in & Atreus, knows his Greek heritage, knowing he's the grandson of Zeus, but still not knowing his dad had another family before & had a older sister & why his skin is the way it is... something tells me we are set for big emotional angry revelation scene. Weather by Kratos or Calliope or something else bigger that shake the foundation.
@Couragethecowardly-hog
@Couragethecowardly-hog 7 ай бұрын
​@@gozogo1233foul 💀
@ysgramornorris2452
@ysgramornorris2452 7 ай бұрын
​@@cvill03 We don't know if Kratos told Atreus about his first family or not. Because it didn't really matter in the story the devs wanted to tell in the norse games. For all we know, Kratos could have opened up to Atreus about it all during Fimbulwinter.
@Abdullah_ibn_Sayyad
@Abdullah_ibn_Sayyad 7 ай бұрын
So, Greece is not completely destroyed. Elysium still exists including the soul of Calliope.
@inlaidaniki2999
@inlaidaniki2999 7 ай бұрын
No Elysium was destroyed because Hades and Persephone died and the souls set free not knowing where to go
@Oddfosshaugbagi
@Oddfosshaugbagi 7 ай бұрын
@@inlaidaniki2999no it dident
@nave712
@nave712 7 ай бұрын
@@inlaidaniki2999So wouldn’t that mean Calliopes free?
@gigachad167
@gigachad167 7 ай бұрын
​​@@Oddfosshaugbagi you are on drugs. Lmaoo it literally was.
@inlaidaniki2999
@inlaidaniki2999 7 ай бұрын
@@nave712 possible
@Blurgamer17
@Blurgamer17 7 ай бұрын
Remembering that pushing her away was the most difficult QtE in all of the series, as you had to mash ⭕️ for three events in a row. 😢
@PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven
@PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven 7 ай бұрын
And then he snapped every neck on Elysium just to save his daughter.
@TheZombiesAreComing
@TheZombiesAreComing 7 ай бұрын
His daughter had to watch as he did so as well
@JeSsE10mCcOy11
@JeSsE10mCcOy11 7 ай бұрын
Pushing her away was the hardest part
@gianfrancoortizvera6161
@gianfrancoortizvera6161 7 ай бұрын
Hardest button mashing minigame ever
@crucible1084
@crucible1084 6 ай бұрын
man you can hear the pain in his voice, and how traumatized he is from it. "worse, *it was.* " summoning his daughters soul in elysium just to screw with his mind is on an absolutely different level of messed up.. thats how you break a man.
@neo-warkid4edwards222
@neo-warkid4edwards222 2 ай бұрын
it was even worse than Ares' attempt to break Kratos using illusions of Lysandra and Calliope and then stealing the Blades of Chaos from him to "kill" them again despite Kratos' best efforts. because in that sequence, they weren't really there in the first place. not even the Furies; illusionist extraordinaires went as far as to use the souls of the REAL Lysandre and Calliope to tempt Kratos back into service to Ares.
@Koppu1doragon
@Koppu1doragon 7 ай бұрын
You know one day I kind of hope we get Kratos returning to Greece, I would love seeing him try to rebuild it, to be the God of Hope that restores what the God of War brought ruin to. Maybe he'll get to visit his wife and daughter in the afterlife, introduce her to her brother.
@K_SwindleFBK
@K_SwindleFBK 7 ай бұрын
i knew u was coming. highly appreciate you
@MatthewX0
@MatthewX0 7 ай бұрын
Was truly the hardest QTE of the entire series
@yanderefangirl8317
@yanderefangirl8317 7 ай бұрын
If Calliope was brought back to life, then maybe she became the Muse ‘Calliope’. In Greek mythology, Calliope is the Muse who presides over eloquence and epic poetry, and is also the mother of Orpheus.
@csab8642
@csab8642 7 ай бұрын
Kind of wish Atreus was here to hesr about all of this be kond of interesting to know how he'd feel lesrning about his older sister
@inlaidaniki2999
@inlaidaniki2999 7 ай бұрын
I mean Kratos doesn’t like to talk about her because he still regrets it and it’s something never to bring up again but if Atreus ever goes to the Greek pantheon he would found out the whole truth of his father’s past and what happened to his whole family on Kratos side
@Nematoda4ever
@Nematoda4ever 7 ай бұрын
i think Kratos doesn't like to talk about his previous family, if he talk about it to Atreus, meaning he must talk about how they died, for teenager like Atreus, that story is horrifying, moreover when it comes from your father and he are the one who caused it.
@parteltammearu8613
@parteltammearu8613 7 ай бұрын
Atreus already knows the gist of what his father has done. Destroyed the greece pantheon, killed his father and many other gods cuz revenge for his former family, but Atreus doesnt really care too much about Kratos' past. He cares more about Kratos' present and future.
@screenname6829
@screenname6829 7 ай бұрын
Technically he'd be older.....he lived longer
@csab8642
@csab8642 7 ай бұрын
@@screenname6829 I guess technically you have a point.
@warriorwolf3588
@warriorwolf3588 7 ай бұрын
Among all the pain and struggle, this must be one of the most painful, he was smiling while reuniting with her😢😢😢
@quaintserpent
@quaintserpent 6 ай бұрын
I wish devs left opened door for characters like calliope, lysandra, orkos and deimos to return.
@ocarinaplaya
@ocarinaplaya 7 ай бұрын
Kratos can rest easy knowing that Calliope has adopted a rain gremlin who calls her "dad".
@kome360
@kome360 7 ай бұрын
I get the horrible feeling Calliope didn't find peace. She just saw the path Kratos walked.
@matthewjabeznazario8769
@matthewjabeznazario8769 5 ай бұрын
If Calliope survived, she might be Calliope Kratossdóttir.
@sneedfeedandseed2410
@sneedfeedandseed2410 7 ай бұрын
ah yes, who could forget the "abandon your child" quick time event.
@Ghaltouni
@Ghaltouni 7 ай бұрын
And people still have the audacity to claim that Kratos overreacted by destroying Olympus
@SomeRando1998
@SomeRando1998 7 ай бұрын
It wasn't destroying Olympus that was the problem, they had it coming, but all other innocents he butchered along the way was just evil.
@Ghaltouni
@Ghaltouni 7 ай бұрын
@@SomeRando1998 It was either that or getting tortured by Hades for all eternity. The "innocent" would've thrown him under the bus instantly if the roles were reversed
@SomeRando1998
@SomeRando1998 7 ай бұрын
The "innocents" would have rightly thrown him under the bus because he was a power-hungry mass-murderer, and not everyone would've suffered in hades. If they weren't evil, they'd go to elysium as mentioned here, only the wicked stayed in Hades. Im not even a hater of kratos, he redeemed himself somewhat, but he was unquestionably evil when he was younger, doesn't matter if the rest of olympus was evil as well.
@DimitrisGenn
@DimitrisGenn 7 ай бұрын
​@@SomeRando1998 Kratos himself says in this dlc that he can't forgive his younger self.
@jayrenteria605
@jayrenteria605 7 ай бұрын
I hope she found peace too.
@samuelbarrett5701
@samuelbarrett5701 7 ай бұрын
I hope we get to see lysandra and calliope in a future game.
@sethleoric2598
@sethleoric2598 7 ай бұрын
Imagine if Atreus is sad that he never met his half sister and Kratos says she's still here, and closer than he thinks... at least when hes in the room.
@bmobmo6438
@bmobmo6438 7 ай бұрын
I really hope we get to go back to Greece in a future game. After this DLC, the one thing Kratos hasn't done to resolve his past is do what he can to make it right.
@nilodelmundo
@nilodelmundo 7 ай бұрын
Honest a spinoff with Loki going to Greece would be more appealing.i like god of war but kratos is trying his best to feel his role as a leader in realms doubth he would be quick to leave it behind
@al_alemania
@al_alemania 7 ай бұрын
It was extremely sad seeing Kratos push Calliope away when I played Chains Of Olympus for the first time but it kinda turned into a comedic moment when they made it into a button mashing sequence
@kratosgow342
@kratosgow342 7 ай бұрын
I mean that represent how much willpower it take for Kratos to push her away over and over
@touremuhammad5983
@touremuhammad5983 7 ай бұрын
Can you please show us when Mimir spoke about Fairy King Oberon??
@VideoGameSophistry
@VideoGameSophistry 7 ай бұрын
Coming up
@touremuhammad5983
@touremuhammad5983 7 ай бұрын
@@VideoGameSophistryAlso, since there are consequences to killing Gods in this universe, would there be consequences for killing Fairies?
@VideoGameSophistry
@VideoGameSophistry 7 ай бұрын
@@touremuhammad5983 I don’t think so - it’s more background stuff
@JavierMartinez-oj3rg
@JavierMartinez-oj3rg 7 ай бұрын
If Kratos explain to Colliope why I had to leave, I’m guessing maybe she would understand that he was trying to save her so that way she wouldn’t be sad and she would forgive her father
@waalex11
@waalex11 7 ай бұрын
Interesting how he's never told Atreus about his wife and daughter yet... I wonder if he'll meet them again somehow, or if Atreus will.
@Doubledexter
@Doubledexter 7 ай бұрын
Loved this dlc. Its a real treat to myself and other lifelong god of war fans that have played every game multiple times. Ome thing that sucked tho was this particular lines of dialouge the 1st set and last set it got cut off by enemies that spawned so i couldnt hear the rest of it lol. Even after mimir said theyd pic it up later it didnt happen. Also anyone else dind it funny Kratos has never mentioned his old wife by name once lmao
@Yamoyashi
@Yamoyashi 7 ай бұрын
chains of Olympus callback lets gooooooooooo
@guynamedbob8374
@guynamedbob8374 7 ай бұрын
I can imagine Calliope becoming the new goddess of the Underworld, after Persephone and Hades’ deaths.
@Isyoboyjon
@Isyoboyjon 7 ай бұрын
This is one hurts especially when you’re a dad of a Girl lol oof 😓
@silverpslm
@silverpslm 7 ай бұрын
I hope that Kratos can find her again. Give her the life she had right to live. Perhaps she can be found in his son's adventures.
@JonathanGonzalez-ty4vh
@JonathanGonzalez-ty4vh 7 ай бұрын
Maybe kratos finally dies in the 3rd ,should there be one, and will finally know peace. And be along side his daughter once more. (Assuming kratos can even get peace in the afterlife)
@Its_Cannon
@Its_Cannon 7 ай бұрын
*Press ⭕️ to Punch Zeus in the face*
@johnlucas2838
@johnlucas2838 7 ай бұрын
Now I wanna see Atreus journey to Greece and possibly even explore Hades where he encounters her.
@crazedpixel8714
@crazedpixel8714 7 ай бұрын
Is it just me or is it wrong when the game says Kratos killed his first god when he killed Ares, wouldnt Calliope also be a God? considering that Atreus is a god.
@UwU.dont.ask.
@UwU.dont.ask. 7 ай бұрын
No because when kratos killed his daughter he was not a God at that point, so she was not one at conception. But his son was born while kratos is a God
@cynderjackson8992
@cynderjackson8992 7 ай бұрын
​@@UwU.dont.ask.now hang on. If zeus was kratos' father, that meant he was a god from the get-go but just never knew about it until kratos killed his mother after she told him about it. Technically that also made deimos a god, but, on topic, calliope should've also been considered a god
@Ghaltouni
@Ghaltouni 7 ай бұрын
Genetics don't work that way
@crazedpixel8714
@crazedpixel8714 7 ай бұрын
@@Ghaltouni i feel thats a little weird answer, just highlighting that the series contradicts itself a little, and im aware the original gow was supposed to be a single title
@crazedpixel8714
@crazedpixel8714 7 ай бұрын
@@Ghaltouni i feel thats a little weird answer, just highlighting that the series contradicts itself a little, and im aware the original gow was supposed to be a single title
@nave712
@nave712 7 ай бұрын
It irritates me that he never tells Atreus he has a sister
@UwU.dont.ask.
@UwU.dont.ask. 7 ай бұрын
*had
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