KSG -vs- DP-12 [ Best Bullpup SHOTGUN ? ]

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After Popular Demand, It's time to see which is the Best Bullpup 12gauge Shotgun on the Market...the Kel-Tec KSG or the Standard Manufacturing DP-12? Though there are other Bullpup Shotguns on the market, these seem to be the Top 2 for now!...This video is VERY LONG, but wanted to cover all the bases...
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@GY6vids
@GY6vids Жыл бұрын
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@ryanscottm
@ryanscottm 4 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best comparison videos - not just for guns but of anything - that I've seen. Got me from the start with the time stamps and again at the end with the whole "don't discount the 500 or 870" reality check. Honest reviews not driven by manufacturer pressure. Just awesome.
@MW-jm8qb
@MW-jm8qb Жыл бұрын
Great vid quality. Calm, non-obnoxious levels, no dopey funny shinnanigans, straight and to the point, nice slo-mo action, music fits, nice fade ins and outs. 10/10. Great Job !
@tylerw1418
@tylerw1418 Ай бұрын
7 years later this video is still impressive, and helpful. Just purchased my KSG and love it. Thank you sir.
@GY6vids
@GY6vids Ай бұрын
Glad it helped!😎🤝
@tylerw1418
@tylerw1418 Ай бұрын
@@GY6vids 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@ThatxGuyxUxKnow
@ThatxGuyxUxKnow 23 күн бұрын
I bought mine yesterday:)
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
HEY!!! Got am idea...gonna run the DP-12 again in a video, and we will see its fast double tap in action(Cant tell you what, ruin the surprise LOL)...Granted the double tap with 12 gauge isn't the most accurate but it can be VERY ENTERTAINING in certain situations! The speed of the DP-12 and its crisp trigger, will make for some fun! LIKE this comment if you're down for some more DP-12 stuff....
@barryjustice8656
@barryjustice8656 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, please! The DP-12 should excel at a double tap drill. The fast double tap, ammo capacity and pump reliability is why I'm purchasing a DP-12 for home defense.
@barryjustice8656
@barryjustice8656 8 жыл бұрын
Oh I forgot...ALWAYS DOUBLE TAP!!!
@jnbaker7422
@jnbaker7422 7 жыл бұрын
You should get vambraces for the ksg.
@aaronkinard4073
@aaronkinard4073 7 жыл бұрын
pretty sure during your speed test that was operator error you were most definitely short stroking the action on both shotguns. alot of people give the ksg a bad reviews because they try to run it as fast as they can an in there rush tend to also short stroke the action. I have do it myself while speed firing a pump shotgun. good vid though
@TWISTEDSTRINGS69
@TWISTEDSTRINGS69 7 жыл бұрын
I`m a little late to the show but I think they make a shell deflector for that now. No more snake bite !
@steph1701
@steph1701 5 жыл бұрын
I have the KSG ... there is a shell deflector made by SMT Tactical to keep the shells off your wrist. There is also an enhanced tube selector that extends the tube selector to the point where you can switch the tubes with your wrist. Regardless ... Great unbiased vid. Good work!
@anxiousbeachbums
@anxiousbeachbums 7 ай бұрын
Good info.
@violator4200187
@violator4200187 4 ай бұрын
Thanks
@joshzolnierowicz3088
@joshzolnierowicz3088 7 жыл бұрын
"click on the time stamps so i wont waste your time" *subs instantly*
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 7 жыл бұрын
My viewers time is valuable and I respect it. Sometime people just want to see the details and others want to see just shooting aspects...Want to give them the option. Welcome to GY6vids
@leokrupp4442
@leokrupp4442 7 жыл бұрын
Dudes legit.
@jonathanblaine4121
@jonathanblaine4121 5 жыл бұрын
Same. Mad respect to him for that.
@emmettmarbury6571
@emmettmarbury6571 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@markbrown1603
@markbrown1603 4 жыл бұрын
GY6vids i
@frederikclaeyssens9201
@frederikclaeyssens9201 8 жыл бұрын
"hope you appreciate the quality..." Man, said it before and I'll gladly say it again: Your production quality is trough the roof. Excellent in every way. Thank you for the effort and the honest insight in both systems!
@RockLives4u
@RockLives4u 7 жыл бұрын
This is a very professional and candid video presentation. I hope you continue to be honest in the future, and not give in to corporate pressures. Thanks It is a breath of fresh air in the world of product reviews
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. Yeah it is rough fighting against the wants and needs of companies...everyone wants positive info spoke about their firearms, but honesty in my findings is #1, and it's very rarely 100% perfection on any of the firearms I review...but doesn't make any one gun horrible...but there are times a gun in HORRIBLE, and when that occurs, I'll tell you! Without the trust of my viewers...whats the point of doing reviews.
@texmex8220
@texmex8220 7 жыл бұрын
So what do you think of the ksg. Me personally I am kinda liking it. In a fantasy tactical sense lol the selector switch makes for a quick reload. 7 then a quicker 7 than reloading a new 30 rd mag. With the dp12 once you run dry you either load both tubes or shoot one skip one. just a novice shooters 2 cents
@anderseckstrand7033
@anderseckstrand7033 3 жыл бұрын
TexMex....That’s one of the problems I have with the DP-12. That and it weighs a ton!!!
@ag4allgood
@ag4allgood 2 жыл бұрын
@@anderseckstrand7033 Do you use a sling for it ? That would help.
@dr.byronloyd4713
@dr.byronloyd4713 7 жыл бұрын
I watched your previous video on the DP-12 and how the cycling was a problem. I am glad that Standard Manufacturing has since corrected the problem. I own a DP-12 and have put many rounds through mine. I have never experienced the sticking of shells, and the action works flawlessly regardless of the angle I am holding the weapon. Thank you for bringing this issue to the attention of Standard which prompted them to fix this problem. I enjoy your videos.
@googlechicken
@googlechicken Жыл бұрын
@@pomztoybox6877 me too and I’m sorry but if someone is clearing a building with there weapon pointed perpendicular to the floor tha that is a tactical issue not a mechanical one
@RekzysTheTitan
@RekzysTheTitan 6 жыл бұрын
I always thought the dp12 was just two KSG's welded together
@myusername3689
@myusername3689 3 жыл бұрын
It kinda is.
@slave7022
@slave7022 2 жыл бұрын
It's more of a ksg with and extra barrel.
@onoes9646
@onoes9646 7 жыл бұрын
That LaRue target rises like something out of a horror movie.
@christopheranthony6965
@christopheranthony6965 15 күн бұрын
Again 7Yrs. later, but was that because he just shot the crap out of the base of it? Or do they always function that way?
@sugarking12
@sugarking12 8 жыл бұрын
for the ksg I use my wrist guard I use for bow shooting and it deflects those shells great
@BetaBuxDelux
@BetaBuxDelux 4 жыл бұрын
Ocazzar smart man
@hjburgess
@hjburgess 4 жыл бұрын
I don't have the problem of the shells hitting my wrist
@jamiesmith6838
@jamiesmith6838 4 жыл бұрын
That's what i was thinking. Small mod or polyurethane wristband!
@Combatzx2
@Combatzx2 4 жыл бұрын
@@hjburgess same here man.. was news to me too
@brianknight2282
@brianknight2282 3 жыл бұрын
I had a problem with it shooting out on my fucking nipple like smacking it
@doctorprepper5196
@doctorprepper5196 3 жыл бұрын
I want to thank Tim Tebow for doing this review.
@VanXHydrA
@VanXHydrA 3 жыл бұрын
Ahahahaha
@jacobcraig2891
@jacobcraig2891 2 жыл бұрын
Bwahaha
@alternative7586
@alternative7586 Жыл бұрын
Muahahaha
@tlmorris513
@tlmorris513 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@kennethkrajewski9443
@kennethkrajewski9443 5 жыл бұрын
Great review! In case anyone missed it. The ksg can also hold. 24. Mini slugs. That is huge. Love the mini slugs!
@tjnj2256
@tjnj2256 4 жыл бұрын
yep KSG is the only shotgun on market that runs ALL 12ga shells flawlessly
@vilador8229
@vilador8229 4 жыл бұрын
So it’ll run them flawlessly? I’ve been wondering this
@RikuNoganashi
@RikuNoganashi 4 жыл бұрын
@@vilador8229 I run the Aquila minishells in my KSG full time for security work, never had a single issue with them.
@graemeo3440
@graemeo3440 4 жыл бұрын
The KSG 25 holds 41 minishells.(with one in the pipe)
@andrewclegg4120
@andrewclegg4120 4 жыл бұрын
I have a KSG and use Aguila minishells, both slug and buck shot. You can put a max of 11 in each tube and they work flawlessly. I have shot well over 100 shells in one range visit, have had no miss feeds, no empty shell casings hit my wrist although my daughter did and the recoil is very much reduced by using a smaller shell.
@thatoneasianguy10221
@thatoneasianguy10221 8 жыл бұрын
Such a well shot and edited video, amazing amount of work, effort, and dedication! The quality really shows, and what you're doing for the firearms community is very appreciated. Thank you for the outstanding material! Liked and subscribed.
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jimmy! Means a lot. Thank you for all the support. MUCH MORE COMING.
@littleike2228
@littleike2228 8 жыл бұрын
Hey GY6 I appreciate all the time you took editing and including the time markers. Not enough people say thanks so thanks man, keep making awesome videos
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying thank you...its a ton of work and I want to make sure to NOT waste you time(Hence the Time Markers). Some viewers have time to watch it all, and others just want to get to the point. Thanks for the support!
@Beanu1968
@Beanu1968 8 жыл бұрын
+1989Muppet Huh, I wonder why?
@RNJuiceable
@RNJuiceable Жыл бұрын
I think Standard Manufacturing must have made minor changes since this video. I've had zero (0) misfeeds or misfires since purchasing mine in Fall 2021 -- it's been 100% perfect. I'm glad they got those issues worked out :)
@kbkesq
@kbkesq 4 ай бұрын
How many shells do you have through it now?
@Gambit-jo4rw
@Gambit-jo4rw 18 күн бұрын
PERFECT vid, unbiased, very thoroughly in explaining and not just saying like if the audience should know already-experts and BEGINNERS watch. New with this and understood everything thanks for explaining and not just “oh look what I have this is cool.” These types of vids are supposed to be educational, not show and tell, other channels can’t comprehend that. I was literally deciding between these two and you’ve gave great camera angle, multiple different stress tests scenarios, time markers (to avoid wasting time), and things as a newcomer I wouldn’t have considered into perspective I’ve realized which best suits me specifically, thanks.
@TheJrivera1
@TheJrivera1 7 жыл бұрын
I'm picking up a DP-12 this weekend in my home state of CT. Thank you for the great review.
@agentblammo
@agentblammo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great review. I am 100% certain which shotgun I'm going with (first). I love shotguns and have had my heart set on the KSG 25 since I came across it recently at a local gun shop. Then I saw the DP-12 which is most certainly boner-inspiring for pretty much any shotgun lover. After watching this entire review, I'm quite certain the overall better choice is the KSG, so I'll be going to pick mine up shortly. That said, I'm pretty sure I will be adding the DP-12 to my shotgun collection eventually as well.
@prettyrickyfromva
@prettyrickyfromva 7 жыл бұрын
finally someone who doesn't curse every 2 seconds so I can watch videos around my house without headphones
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 7 жыл бұрын
I will never allow cursing in my videos on GY6vids. I will either bleep them out or cut them out. Promise you that.
@prettyrickyfromva
@prettyrickyfromva 7 жыл бұрын
It's definitely appreciated thank you!!
@05crrt
@05crrt 7 жыл бұрын
GY6vids thank you for the video I'm getting the KSG Friday 2-24-17 can you do a vid for KSG vs Utas vs dp12 OR. something vs the Utas ...PS you could host a gun safety class here in FL ur awesome
@bc_usa
@bc_usa 7 жыл бұрын
05crrt ..i hope you didn't buy the KSG...The DP-12 Is far better. There are a lot of DP-12 videos on KZfaq and this is the ONLY one where this guy was having problems with it..i own one and I have had no problems at all...better than burning your wrist off from the KSG.
@05crrt
@05crrt 7 жыл бұрын
USA- USA yes I bought one , have to say I've very happy with it. I had a few rounds jam. that was due to me NOT the firearm .. operator error but since then no problems
@THEZWARRIORWAR
@THEZWARRIORWAR 8 жыл бұрын
Best firearm reviews in the Internet! Very entertaining, honest, amazing quality of video. Keep it up
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@billblake4029
@billblake4029 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic review Andrew. I really appreciate your time,efforts and sincerity. Thank you and please keep up the great work.
@iouund3rtak3r13
@iouund3rtak3r13 5 жыл бұрын
No complaints about my KSG,,protects me and my family just fine,, and its a great gopher remover and camping protection. God bless, great video thanks..
@bonsaiocean
@bonsaiocean 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. TEN 13 ever have any problems with the shell bite like this man had?
@MegaLucario95
@MegaLucario95 5 жыл бұрын
Adam Weight I haven’t, and i’ve cycled all 15 rounds multiple times.
@HoeLeeSheet
@HoeLeeSheet 4 жыл бұрын
I don't want a shotgun that's made out of beach plastic and plus shotguns are useless against home defense if I want something for home-defense I'll take an AR-15
@NoneyoBisniss
@NoneyoBisniss 4 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet That would be effective but not cool when the bullets blow through your (neighbors) walls and destroy things in the next room. #overpenetration
@honorablesteve6091
@honorablesteve6091 3 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet Not all polymers/plastics are the same, as should be obvious, despite that I doubt that the polymer that Keltec uses isn't good enough to last
@Dylan-gs9sm
@Dylan-gs9sm 8 жыл бұрын
Getting the DP 12 Thursday thank you so much for helping to resolve the feeding issuing when pointing downward
@MyGamingParadise80
@MyGamingParadise80 8 жыл бұрын
Hands down you have some of the most Complete reviews i've seen. Thank you!
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@DionLewiis
@DionLewiis 8 жыл бұрын
Nice job! Been looking forward to the next video so much! Great job editing, must have taken so long, but the end result is so worth it, keep it up dude.
@MrMarjaani
@MrMarjaani 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah....not for $1300 bucks....almost twice the price of the KSG and all of these issues? I'm good. Great vid.
@thedailyvariety4407
@thedailyvariety4407 4 жыл бұрын
KAMP- I agree 1,000%.
@daboss258
@daboss258 4 жыл бұрын
imgone What does the DP have over the KSG?
@Superman-xr1oh
@Superman-xr1oh 4 жыл бұрын
@@daboss258 Nothing.
@Mr.J281
@Mr.J281 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping me decide that I’m sticking with purchasing a KSG
@genestarwind7
@genestarwind7 4 жыл бұрын
Nah bro it is 100% worth it ... the first gen dp12s might have had quirks but I've never had the issues this guy had ... its the best shotgun money can buy IMO .... and yes I even say it's better than the m4.
@leisergeist
@leisergeist 8 жыл бұрын
I'm still continually impressed by how well shot (pun intended) and edited these videos are Well done man
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! always good to hear, and EXTREME amount of time and money goes into producing them.
@felixfernandez1023
@felixfernandez1023 8 жыл бұрын
Having worked with both, I believe the DP-12 to be the superior of the two......good speed and smooth action. Love the double barrel feature.
@brenchyalowicois6748
@brenchyalowicois6748 3 жыл бұрын
It’s also like twice the price
@myusername3689
@myusername3689 2 жыл бұрын
@@brenchyalowicois6748 Yeah it’s 2 ksgs welded together of course it costs twice as much.
@toddbowser9415
@toddbowser9415 2 жыл бұрын
@@brenchyalowicois6748 And twice the quality. Wouldn’t pay a plug nickel for that KSG piece of crap
@MrLunchHour2
@MrLunchHour2 2 жыл бұрын
@@toddbowser9415 the early ones yes but they fixed all the kinks. My ksg has been 100% reliable
@2011blueman
@2011blueman Жыл бұрын
@@toddbowser9415 plug nickel? How old are you? 150 years old?
@matthewrodriguez7967
@matthewrodriguez7967 4 жыл бұрын
For the ksg you can put the selector switch in the middle so you don’t have to switch it after the first 7 shots. It automatically switches from barrel to barrel.
@trapez6271
@trapez6271 Жыл бұрын
OMG No videos mention this!!! Thanks!
@rwplm
@rwplm Жыл бұрын
KSG owner here. That is false. It cannot cycle and you can't even load it if the mag tube selector switch is in the middle. If anything, it functions as a second safety.
@rwplm
@rwplm Жыл бұрын
​​@@trapez6271Don't listen to him he's full of it. If you put the selector switch in the middle if prevents both tubes from loading. I own a KSG and I have tried it myself in the past
@trapez6271
@trapez6271 Жыл бұрын
@@rwplm thanks for verifying that, i read that somewhere a few weeks back 👊
@urbanswagaddict
@urbanswagaddict Жыл бұрын
​@@rwplmI started smiling until I saw your reply. I own the ksg also and got excited to test that out.
@Miokomata
@Miokomata 5 жыл бұрын
KSG is my to go shotgun for home defense, and its pink :3 For the selector switch i installed a longer one and use my wrist to flick it over to switch tubes.
@HoeLeeSheet
@HoeLeeSheet 4 жыл бұрын
Haha pathetic you use a shotgun for home defense. Use an Ar15 wont hit your family in a hostage situation.
@mahbuddykeith1124
@mahbuddykeith1124 4 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet At the ranges you'd expect indoors, a shotgun is a rifle for all intents and purposes; the spread will be fist-sized if you shoot across the room. There's that and the fact that not everyone has access to an AR-15 for home defence. You could live in Canada or, even worse, California.
@ricrusso7347
@ricrusso7347 4 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet Yes you are correct but an Ar15 round will penetrate drywalls like swiz cheese!!!, you have to think about what's on the other side of multiple walls!!!. The best home defense system is to use a good quality handgun or what I do is I have two weapons systems ready to go close to me for just an intruder or all-out "zombie apocalypse". Fight like you train and this is what 20+ years of military service has burnt into my muscle memory, I never went to combat without my P226 and my M4!!!. "Always outnumbered, Never Outmanned"
@steveroberts619
@steveroberts619 4 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet An AR for close quarters home defense? Come on man that's ridiculous. Pistol first, shotgun 2nd and then my AR pistol. Hopefully never have to find out which works best. 90% of gun owners wouldn't think a shotgun is pathetic.
@SKtube0
@SKtube0 4 жыл бұрын
@@HoeLeeSheet Do you even own a shotgun? Almost everyone I know who has one would go for it for home defense especially over an AR. Using an AR doesn't guarantee that you wont hit your family in a hostage situation. Chances are, you're going to wind up shooting a member of your own family.
@jamesthomas8112
@jamesthomas8112 5 жыл бұрын
You were very informative and I thank you. I was on the fence between the two guns. I'm going with the ksg on the price factor, accuracy, and ease of stripping down.
@rst2145
@rst2145 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video I've been looking for a comparison video for years & yours is the only one I've found that focuses on just the two guns I've searched for
@Omen_Seven
@Omen_Seven 8 жыл бұрын
lmao That ending was a lot like a Top Gear verdict: "So between the KSG and the DP-12, I recommend the Remington 870." I know that's not what you were getting at, but it just made me think of that. And really though, it is a very good point. I mean, they're 12 gauge shotguns for god's sake; quite possibly the simplest principle of all firearms. Put shell in chamber. Pull trigger. Gun goes boom. Shot goes somewhere in front of you. These two guns, unless you're going to need that higher capacity, its really just a matter of how much you're willing to pay complicate a simple prospect. I mean I do like both guns and they'd be a blast to own, but for my money, I'd probably just grab myself an 870 as well.
@nellsonstout7001
@nellsonstout7001 7 жыл бұрын
If agree with that verdict, but if I didn't have a choice between the two, if choose the DP-12
@nellsonstout7001
@nellsonstout7001 7 жыл бұрын
I'd choose
@lucernhammer
@lucernhammer 6 жыл бұрын
anyone who advocates for the remington 870 hasn't shot a new one terrible ejection I'd go mossberg
@toddk9044
@toddk9044 6 жыл бұрын
lucernhammer Not all newer 870 models have problems. However I would say for the $, no one should have any issues, but you can thank The Freedom Group that bought out Remington for that. For sure, you can't go wrong with a mossberg.
@SVTsupercharged
@SVTsupercharged 5 жыл бұрын
More shells can be the difference between life and death. I'll take more over less any day.
@heathcliffe8446
@heathcliffe8446 8 жыл бұрын
I have a few bullpup shotguns and the KSG is one of my favorites. Love the vids. Yours and Hickok's are definitely the best. Thank you for the quality content.
@ExperimentalProfessor
@ExperimentalProfessor 8 жыл бұрын
KSG for sure. The centered barrel, and no failures to fire. Plus it's super light
@Wedelj
@Wedelj 8 жыл бұрын
I have a KSG and 'super light' is not how I'd describe it, lol. It has a good, decent heft to it, but not too heavy.
@ExperimentalProfessor
@ExperimentalProfessor 8 жыл бұрын
+Sunshine_Shooter Okay poor choice of words, I should have said lighter. I like to have a light build, saves your back when carrying the stuff all day
@bravekid2012
@bravekid2012 7 жыл бұрын
I have both, ksg is a failure and I'm surprised people would take it over the DP-12. My guess is they haven't tried them both. Centered barrel isn't really a factor considering these are cqb weapons and the SxS is only half an inch off center for each. Plus you can set the sights for the first barrel if you really wanted a perfect zero which again for defensive shotguns (which is what these are designed for) at close quarters, even with slugs, isn't really necessary unlike hunting shotguns. Plus to date I've never had a failure to feed, fire or eject with my DP-12. It's a much higher quality design and build. Not to mention the recoil is fat less and way more manageable. Lastly, DP-12 out of the box needs no additional parts to not cut your wrist up unlike the KSG.
@05crrt
@05crrt 7 жыл бұрын
andrew catanese since I bought my ksg I've only had the first few rounds failure to eject ( that was on me) .. but since then and about 200 rounds later I've had no problems. than again I do also own a Steven 12 GA, rem 870 tact moss 500 I wouldn't mind shooting the DP 12
@bravekid2012
@bravekid2012 7 жыл бұрын
Shooting the DP12 a joy that can't be accurately represented through my descriptions. The weight of it is surely something to get used to but the mitigated recoil because of the weight and also the design of the gun (rubberized but stock with internal recoil reduction springs) makes this feel like a 20 gauge shooting bird shot. Nice collection of shotguns you have there. I will always love my Mossberg 500 but when shooting next to the DP12 it feels like a mule kicking you in the shoulder. If you do get a chance to run some slugs through the DP12 or some 00buck, do yourself a favor and bring along that Remington 870 or the Mossberg 500 just to feel the difference side by side. Since I made that first post I actually sold my KSG to a buddy of mine and he loves it. To give it a fair shake a few of the failures to feed was due to me short stroking it but it was still too clunky in its design to be a favored weapon for defense. The only nice thing I have to say about it is that it was nice to be able to switch between the loading tubes if you had different ammo in each. I miss that feature just a bit and wished the DP12 was able to offer a feature to turn off the feeding to one side if you didn't want both to load. But then again it's the DP12 for a reason and I love having two trigger pulls for each pump (which took some getting used to when you grew up on 1 pump = 1 pull). The ability to throw so much 12 gauge down range so quickly is something that puts a ridiculous grin on my face every time I have it fully loaded. I don't think I'll ever sell my DP12.
@youngseanconnery8577
@youngseanconnery8577 5 жыл бұрын
Great video y’all, your production and demonstration is pretty phenomenal. Keep up the good work!
@spencerwinters6325
@spencerwinters6325 4 жыл бұрын
You make the best, highest quality content relating to firearms on KZfaq hands down 🙌🤙🔥
@MacSOGAdventureInternational
@MacSOGAdventureInternational 7 жыл бұрын
Great Vid, I got the KSG because of this vid. Thanks for posting!
@danielcs10
@danielcs10 8 жыл бұрын
Hey man, you have some of the greatest reviews I've seen on KZfaq, great job! It's fun and it's complete on information. Ps: I'm Brazilian and unfortunately we aren't allowed to have guns, but fortunately I've been learning a lot about them with you guys, thanks a lot!
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy them! Much more to come...thank you for the support.
@silentlyobserve
@silentlyobserve 3 жыл бұрын
Are you ambidextrous? Just curious because you shot the guns from both shoulders.
@shirleynewsome6616
@shirleynewsome6616 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought KSG, can't wait to shoot, ordered choke tube and recoil pad also scope.
@connorlafferty728
@connorlafferty728 7 жыл бұрын
Hey man I know you put a lot of time and energy into this video and I really appreciate it. Really helped me with making the decision between the two... I'm going with the KSG! Anyways thanks again keep up the really good videos thank you!!
@MANNY100123
@MANNY100123 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always, Andrew!
@Oak_And_Iron
@Oak_And_Iron 7 жыл бұрын
Hell of a review. Knows his stuff and has GOOD quality.
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@andrewt.4118
@andrewt.4118 8 жыл бұрын
glad to see a new video, and always excited for the next one!
@Rodslinger
@Rodslinger 7 жыл бұрын
VERY well made review. Thank you for placing that much effort into it, it was a great watch.
@rst2145
@rst2145 4 жыл бұрын
When I 1st got my dp12 I had to send it back to the factory for repair because it was shooting both rounds at the same time .... so there is a way. Now it's functioning as advertised
@moe4772
@moe4772 3 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if it had that option to switch though... Can you imagine shooting two 3" slugs at the same time? Kinda like a midget on redbull trying to punch you in the side lol
@willegard2
@willegard2 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see GY6vids? I like GY6vids video. On another note, great video! Thank you! Love from Sweden!
@brandongallardo1507
@brandongallardo1507 7 жыл бұрын
this was awesome to see and was exactly what I was looking for. This gives me a lot to consider; much more than I thought it would give me before watching. I will love to see any future DP-12 vids you do. Nice vids!
@totheendful
@totheendful 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make the video really appreciate it, it help me on making a decision.
@mengh78
@mengh78 7 жыл бұрын
I had some light primer strike on my DP-12 right out of the box shooting today... That was one of the problems. The other problem is that one round would fire but the other one won't let me pull the trigger. I was shooting the Fiocchi ammo... After I went home, disassemble the shotgun, clean it, oil it ,and switch to Estate Super Sport, the problem went away. It's the weirdest thing ever!!!!
@Hahner88
@Hahner88 5 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say excellent video! Very professional and well put together. So real quick I'm overseas so have way to much time on my hands. I have watched probably 50 reviews between the KSG and the DP-12. I like both but will choose the DP-12 more than likely. I dunno if it is just the DP-12 you have but this is the only video with the issues of misfeeds and soft primer strikes. Maybe user error short shucking because your going back and forth and the KSG is smaller. You obviously have a ton of experience with shotguns but just noticed none of the other videos have this issue and the DP-12 looks pretty flawless besides this video.
@iamlegend0000
@iamlegend0000 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sooo much! You don't know how much these videos means to me since it's extremely details with precise pros and cons list breakdown bravo!!! First time gun owner here and much appreciated!! 👍👍🙏💯
@AlfredoHernandez-qj4jo
@AlfredoHernandez-qj4jo 4 жыл бұрын
Very well made video. I've been trying to decide which of these two I should go with for home defense and this video really helps. Thanks!
@commandogregor6981
@commandogregor6981 8 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, and you also did a great job on the editing and setup. Keep it up!
@Solidslayerr
@Solidslayerr 5 жыл бұрын
Just from my own experience, the KSG absolutely hates those short neck aluminum shells and gets sticky like that with them as well. Most notably the Remmington target load shells, bound up like crazy. No problems with high necked shells, or short neck brass ones. Kel Tek themselves told me they don't intend them to use the short neck ones, just a thing with the KSG extractor. Had the thing for about 5 years now and still love it, just gotta experiment around with ammo a bit.
@smackroscoe
@smackroscoe 5 жыл бұрын
Love your honesty & professionalism. Subscribed!
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Welcome to GY6vids
@mysticaldragon2740
@mysticaldragon2740 7 жыл бұрын
Watched both your first review of the DP-12 and now this one (came across this one accidentally) . Both well done and I love the honest opinions given based on your observations. As others have said it is refreshing and well done.
@SpoolinVR
@SpoolinVR 5 жыл бұрын
The slow motion at 13:24 was bad ass. I want a video of myself like that 💪
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Texan1939
@Texan1939 8 жыл бұрын
double tap 12 gauge: first the knees,second the torso. . . done!
@1skottymac
@1skottymac 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thorough comparison. I've watched a few videos on these guns. This video was the one to help me decide to purchase the KSG. (I already have a few Mossbergs!) The quality of your presentation is better than the others I viewed.
@franz.isler799
@franz.isler799 5 жыл бұрын
Good enough! Honest review plus Timelines provided clinched it. Subscribed.
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to GY6vids!
@brettlacher4159
@brettlacher4159 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review. Totally top notch quality and VERY fair to both platforms. Many pros and cons to be to be sure. Because price was certainly a big factor (and quite frankly, they both seemed about on par) I went with a KSG. I still love the DP12 and would love to own one. After shooting the KSG, I can thankfully say that the rounds clear my wrists and I have never been bitten by a single round. I wonder if this is a change in Gen 3 or if my wrists are just a little smaller than yours (or we hold the platform differently; I think my grip is in a different spot). Likely the latter. I am 6' 192lbs btw, so not a small man, so for all those reading, don't automatically assume the rounds will hurt your wrist like they did his. If they DID I was willing to take that chance, as if I need to pull her out in home defense, I couldn't give two shits less about a bruise lol.
@gdancoleman
@gdancoleman 4 жыл бұрын
Best bullpup review I've seen. Great info and thorough too. Thanks a bunch! Now I know the KSG is right for me.
@overriidee
@overriidee 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I watched this video like yesterday or 2 days ago I just wanted to say you said the details very good And that you added time stamps in the description is just amazing Great video man, keep up!
@craigroberts6439
@craigroberts6439 2 жыл бұрын
I put the shell deflector from Mcarbo on my KSG Gen 2….really protects the wrist. Lots of fun upgrades for the gun….all making it look more bad ass. Thank you for a great video. Not only informative but your on camera demeanor is terrific.
@Sexigesimal360
@Sexigesimal360 5 жыл бұрын
Just watched your vid enjoyed it as it confirmed I made the right choice with my 590A1. Its never had any of the issues you experienced with the DP-12 or the KSG. Very informative, think I'm gonna subscribe.
@glennlanphier4824
@glennlanphier4824 3 жыл бұрын
AMEN, I also have the 590A1. It only lacks 2 positives these weapons have. Round count, and overall length. Give me more rounds, and I'll call it perfect. BUT, it has none of the cons!
@makerofmanythings8447
@makerofmanythings8447 4 жыл бұрын
I have an extended tube selector that I can switch tubes with a flick of my wrist on my KSG..
@seanyuan1408
@seanyuan1408 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the nice review between these two shot guns. Really helps for decision make.
@Sin526
@Sin526 8 жыл бұрын
Hey man, love the way you do things so just subscribed, keep it up man. Thank you!
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Welcome to GY6vids!
@MegaLucario95
@MegaLucario95 4 жыл бұрын
This video made me make up my mind between the two, went with the KSG. Literally no issues at all since i bought it, and it’s an absolute blast to fire all 15 rounds in rapid succession.
@baseball-dude4252
@baseball-dude4252 2 жыл бұрын
Do you still like it? I'm thinking about buying a ksg 12
@1crimm
@1crimm 8 жыл бұрын
great stuff as always
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Dirty_Dan_Tactical
@Dirty_Dan_Tactical 8 жыл бұрын
+GY6vids I love your videos and may I ask "have you ever played airsoft or paintball"?
@donniedarko1345
@donniedarko1345 4 жыл бұрын
Bought my KSG today. Great comparison with the DP...glad I went with the KSG even more now! Nice review.
@bobby.2.tabs69
@bobby.2.tabs69 7 жыл бұрын
I dig how you put the times to skip to, in case you're in a hurry or something. great video
@makerofmanythings8447
@makerofmanythings8447 3 жыл бұрын
Man that KSG looks so good in that color. Love mine it's black and I can hit a 12" gong at 150 yards with slugs, I Have a Holosun 506C on it.
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@sunshine681
@sunshine681 3 жыл бұрын
@@GY6vids Very nice!!! The length of the hallway in my house is about 50', so I don't really care about rounds on target at 450'... (that's why I have a .308) Due to the mis-fires in this video, though, I would not choose the DP-12, regardless of Hickok45's review ;)
@krisspofford
@krisspofford 7 жыл бұрын
nice video.. Ur good at what you do.... keep it up!
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you....appreciate the support.
@jakezone1
@jakezone1 8 жыл бұрын
Great quality as always, don't worry about making your videos short you are a pleasure to watch. I need to buy one of your T-shirts!
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! sometimes the videos end up being short, and other times...well 31min =0=/ Yeah if you do buy a shirt, put it on and take a PHOTO...tag us on social media @GY6vids. Mainly Instagram.
@lyleman68
@lyleman68 8 жыл бұрын
Very high quality and professional video. No bias, just facts. Great job
@sandsnakesinmypants
@sandsnakesinmypants 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for this vid! i've been super stuck deciding which one i want. definitely going for the KSG
@brettlacher4159
@brettlacher4159 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review; very impressed with the thoroughness and honesty. I'm still debating on which to get personally, but this review has shed a lot of light on the pros and cons. I am especially interested in those failure to fires in the DP12, which I primarily wanted more due to it's supposed increased reliability. Thanks for the great video.
@Awsumasaurus
@Awsumasaurus 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you for impartial and thorough comparison.
@arrowgantonegreen839
@arrowgantonegreen839 3 жыл бұрын
A Google search brought me here four years after the video was made. With a pandemic going on, rioting, and violence going sky high; anticipate this video getting a lot of new views between now and November. A KSG sold on an online auction today for over $1600. Kel-Tec is out of stock and distributors have NO idea if / when they will be manufacturing / shipping more KSG's. (You can get a tricked out DP-12 for $1700+; they have plenty in stock.) I am going with the KSG. This was a GREAT video. Awesome video angles and slow mo, great graphics, editing well done. You took two things I needed a direct comparison of and gave me a fair evaluation while sitting on my ass. I thank you and my lazy ass thanks you. (As odd as this will sound, I do not own a single short sleeved shirt or wife beater. The wrist burn shouldn't be an issue for me. Hopefully I don't set a shirt on fire.)
@veggie530
@veggie530 8 жыл бұрын
you don't have to flip the KSG to switch tubes... you can change it with your wrist. which includes on accident!
@TheFXCELESSOne
@TheFXCELESSOne 8 жыл бұрын
Is your name for real
@veggie530
@veggie530 8 жыл бұрын
+Slash Poison lol I'm a male nurse. murse ... Mursenary... lol
@nickshumar4553
@nickshumar4553 8 жыл бұрын
+TheMursenary that is possibly the most creative name I've seen, love it
@GeorgePerakis
@GeorgePerakis 8 жыл бұрын
Have you ever watched Scrubs?
@veggie530
@veggie530 8 жыл бұрын
haha thanks guys. and nah, never watched any medical based show except House.
@SomeDiscussionRecommended
@SomeDiscussionRecommended 7 жыл бұрын
Damn, he powdered that pidgeon. Slow-mo really added to this.
@TheRaymacedo1
@TheRaymacedo1 7 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah I appreciate the timeline. Subscribed
@DadsGotADeal
@DadsGotADeal 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Great commentary. Thank you so much. You're awesome and really good at what you do.
@mk45gunnr25
@mk45gunnr25 7 жыл бұрын
I must be perpetually 13 years old (I'm actually 44). Every time he said "girth" I heard Beavis and Butthead laughing!
@ne5409
@ne5409 3 жыл бұрын
😜😂
@Meadiocracy
@Meadiocracy 8 жыл бұрын
Between the two I'd say the KSG is the better option, if you really need to put shells down range you're better off with a semi like the Saiga which is also cheaper than the DP-12. The KSG offers versatility to use two different ammo types and one major down fall to the DP-12 is you can only safety it if both sides have been fired. But there's one shotgun that'll never do you wrong, the beautiful 870.
@arrowgantonegreen839
@arrowgantonegreen839 4 жыл бұрын
informative with the exact information I was looking for. Thank you much.
@charlesodle8595
@charlesodle8595 4 ай бұрын
Great video. I appreciate the times stamps in the beginning I also appreciate the unbiased review. Definitely hitting subscribe 🤘
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 4 ай бұрын
Welcome to GY6vids
@bad_company5.03
@bad_company5.03 7 жыл бұрын
Great review. Never fired the DP12, I own a KSG. Love it. I like being able to put buck in one mag and slug in the other. The weight is also a big factor between the two. Ensuring that I fully pumped it each time was the hardest thing to train. No short stroking. It will not feed if you do. When you are looking at 1400+ or 800+ and need a red dot or any other additions, the KSG is the best way to go. Plus the extra 600 gets you a lot of buck and slugs ;)
@donkeyhong7423
@donkeyhong7423 8 жыл бұрын
Having used the KSG and owning a DP12 I prefer the DP12 to the KSG. The KSG after breaking it down 10-15 times, cleaning, oiling, and making sure it was reassembled at a relatives house, he and I spent more time doing that than shooting it. He eventually sold it just to get rid of it . The DP12 I have owned for a year now and i have never broken it down or cleaned it after having shot 6-7 hundred rounds through it. I have experienced however as in this video the light primer strikes of the DP12. At most i would say its been 5-10 shells that failed to fire. Now I havnt broken it down to see whats going on in there whether it is a factory issue or a ammo issue even though i highly doubt its the ammo do to the light dimple on the back of the shell. Price difference is significant to i paid 1400 before taxes on mine but to me it was worth it. All in all though i love the DP12 it has a velvety smooth action but neither make good skeet guns lol.
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your personal experience, sorry to hear youve had such issues. That sucks;-/
@donkeyhong7423
@donkeyhong7423 8 жыл бұрын
+GY6vids you should do a dp12 vid with aguila mini shells lol. thanks for the awesome vids
@GY6vids
@GY6vids 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah that would be cool! The DP-12 can dump shells so fast it would be a crazy time for sure!
@skullcraftcustoms
@skullcraftcustoms 7 жыл бұрын
Great and very informative video! Love the slow motion shots btw!
@johnparsons6860
@johnparsons6860 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video I learned a lot thank you ! I’m leaning towards the KSG
@PatriotCoinRings
@PatriotCoinRings 3 жыл бұрын
*"DP-12 hands down!"*
@D3thM3tal
@D3thM3tal 8 жыл бұрын
Watching the slow-mo these guns are flexing quite a bit - I wonder if that is contributing to the issues that crop up when you are rapid firing. Either way - great review. I'm leaning towards the KSG due to the centered barrel and consistent target acquisition.
@TheFXCELESSOne
@TheFXCELESSOne 8 жыл бұрын
Except the fact of the shells flying out and hitting your wrist.
@maniacmatt1782
@maniacmatt1782 8 жыл бұрын
+Slash Poison deflector available or don't hold your elbow in so much so your wrist isn't tucked directly under. I don't have a deflector and have no issues with it hitting my wrist.
@Wedelj
@Wedelj 8 жыл бұрын
Also, you can't put the DP-12 on safe after shooting one barrel. You have to either shoot both barrels or dump a live round out to put on safe.
@Omen_Seven
@Omen_Seven 8 жыл бұрын
I think its a combination of the parts just expanding with heat (he did mention that it only happened after 150 rounds or so), and the fact that shotguns like this are notorious for misbehaving if you repeatedly fire them as quickly as he was; especially something like the UTAS UTS-15, but that thing has so many other problems, its hard to pick just one. I did notice though that the DP-12 didn't seem to flex nearly as much as the KSG.
@TheFXCELESSOne
@TheFXCELESSOne 8 жыл бұрын
maniacmatt1782 true true but the fact is, that it is a base shotgun review honestly would not buy either to many cons for the price
@johngrunwell2412
@johngrunwell2412 3 жыл бұрын
Very good and outstanding presentation. Thank you. I have the Gen 2 KSG and love it. As you clearly demonstrated, must range your selection well!
@user-kq9ej6ep6r
@user-kq9ej6ep6r 5 ай бұрын
A place called Hitec has a lot of great upgrades for the KSG. They have a longer tube selector so no need to change your grip to switch tubes
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