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KTM 500 exc vs KTM 640 Adventure

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If you were in the market for a single-cylinder adventure bike in the early 2000's the 620/640 adventure might be at the top of your list.
How does it compare with today's 500exc?
Comparison video on my channel, 500 exc vs 450 Rally here - • KTM 500 EXC vs KTM 450RFR
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@simonwyatt6453
@simonwyatt6453 2 жыл бұрын
I own a 640 adventure and its a great bike, dont be put off with the vibes, these go away drastically when engine gets up to temp. It will see off most other big singles and is far more off road orientated straight from the crate. Best big single I've ever rode or owned, and I've had quite a few!
@darrenoconnor3402
@darrenoconnor3402 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, I'm considering purchasing a 640 Adv but I keep seeing people mentioning that parts are difficult to get and it makes me nervous. I'm based in Ireland and have checked European suppliers...the only thing I've seen discontinued in their stock are the exhaust headers and contrary to what some have said, most parts seem available. As an owner, what has your experience been? Thanks.
@simonwyatt6453
@simonwyatt6453 2 жыл бұрын
@@darrenoconnor3402 Hi Darren Thanks for your message, I have not owned the bike for long and have only purchased the genuine ktm oil filters/rubbers, twinair air filter and exhaust header gaskets but had no difficulty ordering these. I have a recent receipt for £1050 (before I purchased) for fork seals, chain and sprocket, steering head bearings etc. I have a 1995 suzuki dr650 and a 1976 it400 so im used to scouring the Internet for rare parts! Hope this helps. Regards Simon
@darrenoconnor3402
@darrenoconnor3402 2 жыл бұрын
@@simonwyatt6453 Hi Simon, thanks for your reply. Unfortunately zero KTM 640 ADVs for sale here. I've not seen one for a couple of years! Watching the UK market carefully, hoping to pick one up next year when things calm down Covid-wise. Thanks for your reply and safe riding! Darren
@simonwyatt6453
@simonwyatt6453 2 жыл бұрын
@@darrenoconnor3402 Hi Darren Yes they are quite rare now, keep an eye out because I may sell mine soon for the right price. I have too many vehicles and a lack of space, thats the only reason, and I dont ride off road at all. Best regards Simon
@kosteros
@kosteros 2 жыл бұрын
Ktm 500 stock weight 111 kg is without: 30l tank, handguards, massive oil filter, working well headlights, mirrors (ktm weight is meassured without street legal kit like mirrors, blinker lights, horn, becouse "it's ready to race"), passenger footpegs and much stronger chromoly subframe, bigger radiators and more coolant, longer-more stable wheel base, dual rotors in front (pre2003 had one rotor), proper airbox, big comfy double seat, carburator which you can adjust and service/repair anywhere, cushin rear wheel hub with dampers (prevents chain wear and some vibrations in low rpm). When you add it all up you end up somewhere around 125kg at best. In my opinion: Long trip (months,years) = ktm 640 2001-2007. Service is pain in the ass but you dont need fancy tools or spare fuel pump or injector if something goes wrong. Big downside of 640 is cluch master cylinder with mineral oil. There are many reports of leaking and getting air in system (1998-2002 had cable clutch). Also 640 had problems with needle bearing of rocker arms wearing quickly which could end up badly. Another thing is auto-decompresor on camshaft also wearing fast. Short trip (one, two weeks) = ktm 500 exc. It's light and gives more fun in dirt. Service is easier but more frequent. You need a lot of stuff to convert it for adventure. Shock need stronger spring for laguage. Same with front forks. Subframe needs to be reinforced or made from different material then aluminum. Rear wheel is 2.15 so lot less adventure tires to choose from. Fuel injection is great but you cant repair it in field. Just my 2 cents ;P
@leonvonbenecke
@leonvonbenecke 2 жыл бұрын
awesome video! 165000km on my old 2005 sixfoddy, she never left me next to the road (or off)
@cumnmrmptaaa4234
@cumnmrmptaaa4234 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit
@efecanozveren
@efecanozveren 2 жыл бұрын
Did the engine had any repair or change? So you just did the meintenance correctly and drive 165000 kms without any engine problem?
@leonvonbenecke
@leonvonbenecke 2 жыл бұрын
Intensive maintenance, rebuild top and bottom end on 63 000km , replaced basically everything in the motor with hop up pats expect the crank, only used liqui molly 20w50 4t oil and serviced every 8000km
@efecanozveren
@efecanozveren 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonvonbenecke cool. Thx for sharing this infos. So whats the cost of this rebuilding operation. Im chasing the 640A now. İ just wanna learn about the unexpected costs.
@leonvonbenecke
@leonvonbenecke 2 жыл бұрын
@@efecanozveren so at the time it was around $3000usd. Also living in south Africa import an customs took a large share of that, and Mr Alfie Cox himself built the bike in his KTM dealership
@4ndr3w70
@4ndr3w70 2 жыл бұрын
6:00 Correct @it needs to be bleeded But there is nothing like "correct pressure". After you change the oil, you screw back the bolt approx. 1-turn, start the engine, wait until the oil starts to come out pass that bolt, let it drip past for say 20seconds, and then just tighten the bolt.
@duncanshepherd2119
@duncanshepherd2119 3 жыл бұрын
Nice touch, particularly for an old fart like me. The 640 ADV is a fantastic machine for carrying heavy loads at high speed off road. Yes its a bit of a tractor compared to a twin, but twins don't go where these go. Its also super reliable as long as you sort it yourself to work out any old gremlins.
@Roger_Gustafsson
@Roger_Gustafsson 8 ай бұрын
Yeah I have the 625 equipped with a 620 adventure tank and home made "tower". The big oil capacity as well. Its a great bike for both some serious offroad and road hauling with a bunch of luggage. Engine is strong.
@HappyAdventure
@HappyAdventure Жыл бұрын
Great video... I'm just waiting to get a plate on my 07 640 adventure. Coming from a T700. Its going to be a good summer
@infinityphotorob
@infinityphotorob 2 жыл бұрын
I have had an 03 since about 2006. There is literally nothing like it. One thing not mentioned here is the fact that it has a ton of suspension travel. And no other ADV bike built has anything that compares. Not until you get into modifying more of a dirtbike/ enduro bike. And that tank! The range is close to 400miles. And depending on where you ride this can be HUGE. In the desert west where i live it is easy to put together backcountry trips that are over 300 miles. Try that on a 790 or 701 that is stock. It is really a bummer that KTM did not continue this bike. It was super rare when it was in production and now is truly a modern classic. Everywhere I go people geek out on this bike. I have not ridden mine in over 10 years. And this winter I got it out and have been getting it ready for a summer of riding. I am pretty excited.
@Angry-Lynx
@Angry-Lynx Жыл бұрын
Exactly, suspension is like 70% of why im currently getting one. Because unfortunately other that are mostly cons compared to 950. And its light ofc! But im no fan of single cylinder, sound is really disappointing and it doesn't have that brutal pull and smoothness of lc8 but hey, nothing compares to lc8 its in own class
@endurists1286
@endurists1286 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the engine capacity was the same (625cc) and 640 was like a model name. There are also 660 lc4 engine with little bit longer stroke and 1mm bigger bore. By the way, i'm lucky to own both those bikes. 1998 Adv R and 2013 500cc
@rangeroadmoto
@rangeroadmoto 3 жыл бұрын
I love the 640 adventure. It was actually the first off road bike I ever rode.
@sarahdell4042
@sarahdell4042 2 жыл бұрын
Same here! I thought my teeth were going to fall out of my mouth! 🤣
@brokentrike1243
@brokentrike1243 2 жыл бұрын
I have 07 KTM 300exc,13 450 six days,14 1190 r.Fun bikes,but i just bought a 05 640 for shed.Had to have one,legend bike.Watching from Australia.
@TheXaelem
@TheXaelem 2 жыл бұрын
Tanks always looked exactely the same, but changed from 28 to 25litres. Engine was 625cc all the way through. 1998-2003 has single front disk. Rear plastics changed in 2004 aswell as final drive ratio.
@davidwilliamson9162
@davidwilliamson9162 Жыл бұрын
Yes the 640 was 625!
@davidwilliamson9162
@davidwilliamson9162 Жыл бұрын
Unless it’s mine that actually is a 640cc because ov the 660 piston!
@gigizack
@gigizack Жыл бұрын
@@davidwilliamson9162 did you keep the same stroke of 78mm?
@davidwilliamson9162
@davidwilliamson9162 Жыл бұрын
@@gigizack yes but ran a bored out 625 barrel with 660 piston,there78.5mm
@gigizack
@gigizack Жыл бұрын
@@davidwilliamson9162 Tks, any improvement over the stock? I was thinking to change the stroke only to give the motor more torque but it's more expensive than changing the bore
@MrHugeheffner
@MrHugeheffner 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos Paul. That bike was the only real single cylinder truly adv ready bike straight out of the box. I had an older one with the single front disk brake. Very tough bike. However I would suggest getting on one and making sure you can live with the vibrations, it’s tractor like. Btw that gear lever for a brake pedal threw me off at first! maybe waiting for a replacement…
@infinityphotorob
@infinityphotorob 2 жыл бұрын
This is very very true. I have never been on a bike with so many vibes.
@Angry-Lynx
@Angry-Lynx Жыл бұрын
Idk what u people are on, test drove one after owning 950 and didn't even notice it. When it stands on center stands yes its funny because you can see it vibrate.
@shafferfoods4669
@shafferfoods4669 10 ай бұрын
It vibes when poorly tuned I'd all. Mine purrs
@bryanhenderson53
@bryanhenderson53 3 жыл бұрын
Great video of two of my favourite bikes! Thanks!
@Checkyoursix77
@Checkyoursix77 2 жыл бұрын
The 640 Adventure is an unique bike. The only out of the box, long range, off road ready adventure bike. Why didn’t KTM make a 690 Adventure?
@Angry-Lynx
@Angry-Lynx Жыл бұрын
At this point im believer of some conspiracy against doing too capable adv bike which is basically rally bike, whatever the reason, imo its intentional, it completely doesn't make sense or they just make a lot of cash from 690 adv conversions... Idk
@philthy63612345
@philthy63612345 2 жыл бұрын
I have always wanted a 640 adventure, when I could finally afford one I couldn't find a good one and ended on the 990 adventure, which was Amazing also, but I still have an itch for the 640.
@Angry-Lynx
@Angry-Lynx Жыл бұрын
Similar story here m8, ive had 950 adv and its hands down the best bike in the world, its just pure emotion, but currently in market for 640 because it have longer travel suspension, which you cant have on 990. Test drove one with wp50 extreme and its really good. Not jaw dropping good like my old AT with wp43 at front but close ;
@geraldjones8925
@geraldjones8925 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2001 LC4 640 and I love it. I have ridden two up in the mountains of Colorado and it did amazing. Nick named "Mullie" after pulling me in & out of log roads in Eastern Ky & KAT. I like having a kick for those dead battery stalls in the middle of a farm pond. Or other places, I guess.
@alftorrisi8795
@alftorrisi8795 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the info. Love my 640 Adv. one thing I would say is mine is very easy on fuel. Around 4.5 - 4.8 litres per 100 kilometres
@Chadlistentome
@Chadlistentome 10 ай бұрын
The fact this was the perfect adventure bike is why KTM stopped selling them. It would most likely slow the sales of the flagship adventure bikes. It’s all about $$$$$$.
@andrewheadland9341
@andrewheadland9341 2 жыл бұрын
I always love the 640 adventure, I’m going to sell my 2014 660 Tenere so I can purchase one. I had Ktm 98 400 supercomp lc4 setup for adventure it was great the only downfall no battery just a kick starter with poor lighting love the LC4 engine
@PetterIvarsson
@PetterIvarsson 11 ай бұрын
Hi same here about to get something more light than the XT660Z. Do you now if the vibes is in same range on this bikes? I can live with the vibes as is but not more. 🙂
@krazed0451
@krazed0451 2 жыл бұрын
Now we get the 790 and 890 adventure... How far we've fallen xD
@Tim9974
@Tim9974 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for yet another super informative video.
@paskins84
@paskins84 Жыл бұрын
So to sum it up its a really rare bike not many made, but lots made so spares are really easy to get hold of
@shieldsymusic
@shieldsymusic Жыл бұрын
Also, my sxc625 has the oil in the frame and 2 filters, 2.1 litres of oil.
@AlexandreRossiBarcellos
@AlexandreRossiBarcellos 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing motorcycles. The best choice will depend on the rider's preference. I would like to have both.
@xtcrider8270
@xtcrider8270 3 жыл бұрын
Wow was just looking at a 640 adv and then this video popped up
@davidoverland440
@davidoverland440 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks
@boxingscience8849
@boxingscience8849 Жыл бұрын
What kind of exc is that.i owned bunch of dirtnikes,hard enduro bikes and also 636 ninja and filers sp1 125 replica,but most of my life were hard enduro and motocross,over 30 bikes in 20 years.But I never ever saw exc that looks like that....for fact with start of new year I’m buying adventure(for 1st time,because it was always cool looking bike,specially the ones from end of 1990 into mid 2000s....damn always wanted to own one.)But now when seeing this exc 500,my God what a machine,I’d love to have one.But I never even saw one for sale or never saw any in races.
@shieldsymusic
@shieldsymusic Жыл бұрын
They never changed the cc. It was always at 625, they just changed what they call it. Like the 500/520/525 I believe...
@vic321344
@vic321344 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, I assume you drive the Motoz 140/80 18 tyre on the rear wheel. Do you use the standard 2.15 rim or the wider 2.5 rim? THX
@rtwpaul
@rtwpaul 3 жыл бұрын
2.5
@osimnod
@osimnod 6 ай бұрын
I'd be interested in knowing what foot pegs are on the 640. Those are not OEM.
@thetrailwaychildren
@thetrailwaychildren 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know if the 530exc would make a good bike for occasional multi day trips? If so what mods would be needed to help prevent any failures Cheers
@maytronix7201
@maytronix7201 2 жыл бұрын
I have a line on a 2003 640 adv with 20k miles. Where is the best place for parts? They seem hard to find.
@Bardockion
@Bardockion 2 жыл бұрын
I actually had a 640 (2007) and currently own a 500 (2012). Altho the 640 is a very awesome bike, the 500 is a better bike in most categories.
@zhang-qin
@zhang-qin 6 ай бұрын
I really want to buy it 640 for my around the world trip, please reply me if this is possible
@beejoutbush3322
@beejoutbush3322 6 ай бұрын
Mate what do you mean oil in the fame?
@ChapinPro
@ChapinPro 2 жыл бұрын
Motorcycle year?
@brunosousa1977
@brunosousa1977 2 жыл бұрын
Iam going after one 640 adv this wesd. Hoppe its in good conditions
@ogasi1798
@ogasi1798 Жыл бұрын
what is that crazy rear tyre on the exc?
@bartolobianco8616
@bartolobianco8616 2 жыл бұрын
Non venderò mai il mio 640 adv 😎
@mattbillenstein
@mattbillenstein 3 жыл бұрын
Man, 7.4 gallon tank - do they get really poor gas mileage or something?
@rangeroadmoto
@rangeroadmoto 3 жыл бұрын
It was just set up to be able to cover huge distances without needing frequent refuelling.
@mattbillenstein
@mattbillenstein 3 жыл бұрын
@@rangeroadmoto yeah, i guess in africa you need that, but in most places you wouldn’t want the weight…
@broncoridesagain3176
@broncoridesagain3176 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattbillenstein you don't have to fill it all the way - I have a 14 gallon tank on my XR650. I run it with a 1/4 tank for short rides, single track and more and full tank for multi day desert crossings.
@mattbillenstein
@mattbillenstein 3 жыл бұрын
@@broncoridesagain3176 What sorta range do you get? Doesn't carrying around just the weight of that tank seem silly for most rides?
@rtwpaul
@rtwpaul 3 жыл бұрын
Usually mid 40”s mpg. They were used a lot for riding Russia/ Siberia, and the design is a follow on from the rally bikes that usually carry 30-50 liters. My SXC had 27L and I ran out of fuel in Mongolia, so it’s all relevant
@shannonhumphry2180
@shannonhumphry2180 Жыл бұрын
the problem with the 500 is it drinks oil
@rtwpaul
@rtwpaul Жыл бұрын
Your bike must have issues, cause mine doesnt
@shannonhumphry2180
@shannonhumphry2180 Жыл бұрын
@rtwpaul I don't have the 500 I have the 640 and I have no problems with it
@rtwpaul
@rtwpaul Жыл бұрын
@@shannonhumphry2180 makes sense, my 625 liked to burn oil too
@robertkelsow-geall7395
@robertkelsow-geall7395 3 жыл бұрын
I had one and put about 30,000klms on it. NEVER again. Great bike overall but holy crap it'll vibrate the fillings outa your teeth.
@maytronix7201
@maytronix7201 2 жыл бұрын
Any mechanical issues over that time?
@robertkelsow-geall7395
@robertkelsow-geall7395 2 жыл бұрын
@@maytronix7201 I was in Newfoundland and had to use regular gas. 87 octane. Ended up burning a hole in the piston. Otherwise it ran well.
@tkk1450
@tkk1450 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertkelsow-geall7395 They have a low octane setting so you don't ruin the piston with 87 octane gas. It's easy to do...the manual points that out. I consider that feature to be useful on this amazing bike. Never getting rid of mine.
@robertkelsow-geall7395
@robertkelsow-geall7395 2 жыл бұрын
@@tkk1450 Mine didn't have manual and didn't know about the lo octane setting till after I sold the bike. Only bike I had that vibrated so much it put my hands to sleep. Great looking bike though.
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