Codger Biker tames his endcan with help from Gorazd at Wings Codger Biker T-Shirt: T-Shirt teespring.com/... Silent Kit: wings-exhausts...
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@russiaisadictatorship.8865 Жыл бұрын
This is good,wish more ppl could do this for different bikes. Most dont understand how dangerous loud noices are for your ears until they get a tinnitus 24/7..
@CodgerBiker Жыл бұрын
Yes. I'm still using it. Nice tone, but not too loud. I really like it. 👍👍
@michaelsupple60813 жыл бұрын
I changed mine today. Had a hell of a time getting the original out but was finally successful. I found the original Wings set up a tad loud especially when rolling into campgrounds here in the USA. I could hear a difference with the silencer kit but it was far from dramatic. I'm happy with the results. It still has a nice rumble to to it. Great video. Thanks for posting.
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
I love it, much better. And it's removable if you change your tune (tune get it!) 👍
@ferkuzuel2 жыл бұрын
I finally got my wings exhaust with the silent kit, I couldn't be happier, went straight from the stock to wings with the silent kit, since I already knew what I wanted , thanks to this video, can't tell the difference in volume, but the tone is way more pleasant, and the bike feels way less restricted, thanks for sharing this video, Now wings gives you the option of the silent kit right when you are ready to place your order. Cheers
@CodgerBiker2 жыл бұрын
Mine has been in since tbe video. I have to say he got it right. Much lower temperature than stock can, options for loud, medium and pleasant. I love it. Glad that it has been a success for Wings too. Nice when the manufacturer listens to the customer 👍👍
@rudolphcarr2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this! I have stayed away from end cans because I don’t like going louder than stock. This gave me just the option I was looking for! Im all about the serenity of a quiet bike and earplugs.
@CodgerBiker2 жыл бұрын
It’s been great. Exhaust much cooler than OEM (in both ways) and nice sound, not too loud - I agree 👍
@rudolphcarr2 жыл бұрын
@@CodgerBiker just put my Wings with silent kit on and I am in LOVE! Quiet kit is ace and the tone is GREAT. Can feel the 6.6 pounds savings. Been babying it while I break in the damping wool. Can’t wait to hear at full chat. Honestly right now it feels quieter than stock at cruising speed. Hoping it stays that way.
@gled992 жыл бұрын
I, like you, came to the conclusion that many aftermarket silencers are just too noisy. But, I installed a titanium Wings slip-on this weekend with the silent kit option and I love it. It has a fruitier tone than the OEM silencer but remains the right side of antisocial on dB and with no cat it runs way cooler than stock too. Win - win.
@CodgerBiker2 жыл бұрын
Gorazd did a great job with the can and the kit. Something for everyone. I’ve had the kit installed since the day it arrived. Best of the best in my book! 👍👍
@patrickdailey31502 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the instruction. Just inserted the quiet equipment and thanks to you it was a breeze.
@CodgerBiker2 жыл бұрын
That's kind of you. Mine is still working fine, I really like it 👍👍
@searchingfor6thgear443 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid! I have mine on order. The installation directions seemed simple enough but nice to have your version to refer to.
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
👍 Thanks for watching. I love it. Easy to remove, or change combinations too. But for me it is perfect 👌
@masbaoutdoors53538 ай бұрын
Put this on my Husky 701. Looking for better sound but not loud as i ride in the woods and back country trails. When it arrived I asked for the cone , based on your video. They told me they don't use the cone any longer. However great results. It is similar to stock, loudness but it does sound much better. It is also cooler and lighter than stock. Everyrhing I was looking for. Thanks for the video.
@CodgerBiker8 ай бұрын
Best can out there for the price. Much cooler in both ways 👍
@rfk76 Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the video. I have this experience with Silent Kit: - with both the cone and the spark arrestor db killer installed the sound was even more silent than the factory stock exhaust and I did not liked it. - I have contacted Wings and asked if the spark arrestor db killer could be used without the cone and they confirmed there are no issues with that setup - so now I have just the db killer from the Silent Kit installed, exhaust is still quiet (almost as the factory pipe), but the sound is much nicer, more bass, more character. I would recommend to give it a try. If you (and your neighborhood) won't like it, you can always put the cone back. Cheers!
@CodgerBiker Жыл бұрын
Yes as I said, many combinations to suit. No db killer, or 2 different, or cone, or spark arrester, or full silent kit. For me, full silent is just fine. Something for everyone - Gorazd nailed it! 👍
@lazycalm2 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, it was the exact information I was looking for. I was afraid with the complete silent kit would be too quiet and the small db killer too louder, so it's nice to know we can have a middle ground :)
@n22pdf3 жыл бұрын
Great vid.. love my Wings exhaust great pipe and build quality
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
Cheers. Me too. This is just an extra most won't need I expect 👍
@GlennFrost3213 жыл бұрын
For my 701 it came with the standard one like you showed so I called and got the spark arrestor type (similar but different to yours), but not the cone, and it just muffled the sound a bit. Kept the nice note but not so crazy loud. Suitably impressed.... :)
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
Whichever configuration it is ten times better than the stock nuclear heater can 😂👍
@RideyBikes3 жыл бұрын
Love it. Thanks for the shout out Codger... They are some interesting db figures. Only a tiny bit louder than stock is a huge win especially on the trails... Went for a spin today on the GF's 690 Duke WITH decat and akra WITH db killer and it's so very loud BUT, it's exhilarating and exciting. After I got back I thought i'd try it with the decat and stock pipe to see if it was any more sociable. Surprisingly it was louder and sharper than the Akrapovic. Might try and fashion a cone for her Akra.... On one hand there's the fun of twisty roads with a loud pipe but on the other there's that need for a more tolerable tone. This Wings setup might be the answer. I don't suppose you tried the 'quiet kit' db killer without the cone and with the cone but without the db killer?? Could be a little interesting experiment.
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your channel I love it. I was also very moved by your offroad vlog, I hope more people watch it. I think we must be the only two 690 riders in the world trying to make them quieter. I did think about experimenting with variations. But it is bloody freezing up here, and raining all the time. I’d have to have spent the day revving the hell out of it which would have pleased people 🤣 So, I reckon, it’s about -2db for the cone and -2db for the spark arrester DB Killer. I did suspect the Cat might double as a Db Killer in the OEM so you have confirmed that. Shame it gets so hot. I wouldn’t mind a header cat, Tekmo could install one in that power bulge. Anyhow using those figures you can kinda work out, approx, how loud it would be. And as I wanted it quiet (for now) I thought it best to put Gorazd’s work to the test. I’ll follow up in future vlogs. Might feel a loss of power. But a lot of that, I always think, is the glorious noise as you blast up the road with everyone looking - I love it 😻 . But have to keep in with the neighbours, as well as local police. Got stopped a bit back for a number plate check. So I abandoned tail tidy idea, luckily I wasn’t revving the hell out of it 🤣😂 Keep up the great channel 👍👍👍👍👍
@mavrick50063 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid Codger thanks for the detail on the db at the end awesome vid cheers . I think ill just stick with the quitest db supplied when it arrives
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
It does sound great, unfortunately not everyone agrees 👍
@glossblack10983 жыл бұрын
Great video. Many thanks for sharing. I have a 2021 690 Enduro and like the quiet aspect of the OEM pipe, but I want to change it something less hot, lighter weight better looking, nicer tone, plus removal of the CAT. Your solution is very interesting and sounds awesome. Wings in Australia offer a 28 mm db killer with a curved metal spark arrestor (see pic on website), so I might try that first, then add a sound filter later if required. Cheers
@GlennFrost3213 жыл бұрын
I have the 2021 701 and got the spark arrestor. The original was pretty loud, but the upgrade just takes the edge of it, still sounds very good but not so crazy loud. The better options IMO.
@bradsanders69544 ай бұрын
In reality, the stock exhaust works fine on a 690. The internet howls about the heat, in real life its not any kind of big deal. All mufflers are hot dont touch them. The latest price I saw on a wings muffler for 690 was over 600.00 US. ! A muffler. I put one on my 890R, so cool. runs the same, makes the same amount of noise. 2 lbs lighter on a 470 lb bike. My 2021 690 enduro runs just fine with stock muffler, even sounds good.
@CodgerBiker4 ай бұрын
It’s a free(ish) world. I liked the wings as it didn’t cook my saddle bags. 👍
@ERUtheWINDRIDER3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have removed the dB killer from my Wings without even try it. It is awesome.
@patrickmaloney64403 жыл бұрын
Nice Idles patch... big up the AFGang!
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
Nice one! ✌
@onursariyer10003 жыл бұрын
Your guitar looks beautiful. I bought a 2015 traditional les paul this week and love it.
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
Cheers. If She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed ever looked in the loft I’d be in trouble. There’s another 17 up there😂 Enjoy your Les Paul, great tone 👍 🎸
@FouseQuentin Жыл бұрын
Wow thank you very much. I dont like stock 690 sound but i dont like wings with the quieter insert its way too loud. Thannyou for showing measures as well it's very helpful for the community. Cheers from France.
@CodgerBiker Жыл бұрын
Merci! I like it with the silent kit. Still going strong 2 years on... 👍
@twix19746 ай бұрын
Great video and I like the silence kit. do you know if you have to adjust the mapping if you install wings exhaust with full silence kit ? I assume not. I jave gasgas es 700 23yr er model so euro 5
@CodgerBiker6 ай бұрын
Not that I know of. I never did. Though mine had a fuel dongle for lower speed riding 👍
@sorin.n11 ай бұрын
Hello, Is this exhaust homologated/approved in EU/UK? If yes, then does it come with any papers to back this? Thank you!
@robertandersson25233 жыл бұрын
Did you notice any difference in power/torque vs stock? I mean a smaller can with same sound level should equal more restriction.
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
Not really. It’s quieter, so that always feels ‘psychologically’ less.
@matsbyggmastar6202 жыл бұрын
Interesting video as I'm considering getting the same bike, but I think you got the dB scale a bit wrong. A change of 3 dB in sound pressure is perceived by a human ear as a really small change in sound "volume". A change of 10 dB is perceived as double (or half) the "volume".
@CodgerBiker2 жыл бұрын
10db is 10x the sound energy, though your perception may differ 👍 In any event, nit picking aside, it is a nice compromise v OEM can or Wings as standard.
@mavrick50063 жыл бұрын
Quik question mate. My 2021 clutch engages right at the end of the lever release is that what your is like. I watched ur slave cylinder change out and looks like yours engages close to the end of the lever release
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, I've never really thought about it. I'll see if/when it ever stops raining. It is very smooth, but needs to be warmed up. PASC hydraulic 'feature' I suspect. Can you start it, in 1st gear, from cold, without it lurching? I can't. Once oil is warm it is fine. I think it's how they are... But very smooth and easy to slip when going slow
@Motardebase. Жыл бұрын
thanks you
@CodgerBiker Жыл бұрын
Cheers👍
@RonnieMX2 жыл бұрын
Did you notice a power reduction with the quiet insert kit. Thanks
@CodgerBiker2 жыл бұрын
Not really, it's still decatted. But psycho-acoustically it can seem louder is more powerful 👍
@hometownguy7184 Жыл бұрын
perhaps rubbung that allen key on a magnet would magnetize it enough to hold the bolt to get it in there more easily?
@CodgerBiker Жыл бұрын
I did try that but it is too fiddly. Maybe a drop of superglue. It'd snap free. 👍
@leadermon Жыл бұрын
@@CodgerBiker swap out the ball tip allen key to a square cut and it pops right in...no wobbles.
@woongtv-naturehealing2733 жыл бұрын
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@796andy28 ай бұрын
f that neighbor 😂
@Progression8892 жыл бұрын
Is the exhaust street legal in UK? No problem at all?
@CodgerBiker2 жыл бұрын
Technically I’d guess not. However with the kit it is no louder than the OEM really, so I doubt it is likely to be an issue. So far, so good 👍
@racingtag12372 жыл бұрын
That’s so cool. Do you think the silent kit can cause damage to the engine, by restricting the fumes channel? Cheers
@CodgerBiker2 жыл бұрын
Not really. If anything it’s more likely to emulate the flow of the original CAT exhaust. Not had any issues… so far 🤞👍
@racingtag12372 жыл бұрын
That’s brilliant! Many thanks for letting me know. I did order the silent kit and can’t wait to have it installed. I absolutely love the Wings exhaust, but I have always wished for It not to be too loud. I am now sorted (-: I really appreciate your post. Thank you very much for that!
@CodgerBiker2 жыл бұрын
No problem. I love the can, much cooler in both ways. Nice to be able to quieten it a bit also, at least my neighbours think so 😉👍
@staffannunstedt5483 жыл бұрын
Hello Codger, I agree with you conclusions about neighbors and the whole environment you ride through with your bike but we are bikers and we want rumble coming out of the exhaust. Each and one us have our own surroundings to take care of. In my case I ride in Sweden and were I live I have miles and miles of gravel roads in forests and in an agricultural landscape open for me to ride on. But along the ways there are people living their daily social life with children, cats and dogs, and of course cows and horses and all other wild animals like mooses, deer, etc. I want more sound for the feeling of riding a bike but also for my own safety and for them who I meet along the way. My choice is to be loud and clear and heard in a distance and when I passes places where people live the revs is down to a minimum and for this I need a more open flow on the exhaust than a stock can provide but not so loud so they can hear me a mile before I reach them and a mile after I have passed. I´m searching for this compromise. Keeping the subject but leaving the 690... Recently I´ve upgraded where you downsized, i bought the new Ktm 1290 SAR after had having a 790 adv r since 2019 with an debaffled Akra. The new Euro-5 Akra exhaust for the 1290 has a whole different approach to keeping the sound low even if you take out the baffles. First you have a big cat on the mid pipe sticking in to the muffler about 10 cm, then there is a "wall" separating the lower part from the rest only connecting to the upper part via two internal "db-killers"(15mm/10 cm each)these inner pipes almost meets the traditional baffles(25/27 cm long)in the upper part of the muffler, a sort of sound chamber. So when you take out the outer long baffles you get a deep sonor sound and not signifikant louder than with the baffles in, just less sharp/metallic. They have in a sort of way secured a relatively low sound even if you modify the baffles. Previous on my 790 and 1190 r with a Remus Hexacone there was an considerably differens between baffles in and baffles out./Staffan
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
Wow, lots of info! I agree that it is good to change things to suit each rider/environment. We are fortunate to have so many choices. Just now, for me on my roads, this bike is perfect. 👍👍
@staffannunstedt5483 жыл бұрын
@@CodgerBiker sorry Codger, My entusiasm carried me away, but I think it is a crucial question. We love the sound of a perfect tuned exhaust but we have to hold on to some principals. Some Harley-owners(not all...) in My environment probably think, the louder the better and I don't agree. Dr Jekill and mr Hyde has an intelligent view on this subject and a superb website, check it out !/S
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
No problem. It is always good to have a view. I like ‘tone’ over volume. Difficult to define, but you know it when you hear it 👍
@peterhauer6745 Жыл бұрын
Of course to each their own when choosing how loud your exhaust is. I’ve been riding many bikes daily over the past 45 yrs. I broke 1 million miles about a yr ago. Tinnitus from bikes, loud music, shooting etc never stops It’s 24x7 including when you want to sleep. I wear earplugs every time I get on a bike. I had my share of loud pipes over the yrs and now do everything I can to protect my hearing. I just ordered the silent kit for my 701. Hearing damage is cumulative and irreparable. You get one set of ears and don’t realize the damage that occurs until it’s too late. Nice video and thanks.
@CodgerBiker Жыл бұрын
@@peterhauer6745It’s good to have the option I think. Like guitars, sometimes tone is more important than volume. 👍
@JuanGarcia-mv1fg3 жыл бұрын
Hi Codger, quick question. I have picked up my 690 and Euro 2021, however find that the rear shock jolts/jars a lot over uneven surfaces on the road such as drain covers. I have re sprung for my weight although better still disappointing. How do you find yours?
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
Coming from a 790Adv S with fixed suspension I’ve found this better. I know what you mean though. I set mine to comfort all round and it is better. I’m about the target weight I suspect. I suppose, as an off road focussed bike, it’s never going to match a tourer. 👍
@JuanGarcia-mv1fg3 жыл бұрын
It’s strange though my KTM 500 EXE is less Jolty. I contacted a few suspension specialists and they feel they are making the suspension to a price not a quality. This will be my third 690 after a break for a few years, I can’t say that the WP explorer suspension is much better than the apex. Shame because I wanted a super good adventure bike with no compromises.
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
I'd bow to your experience of course. 👍
@JuanGarcia-mv1fg3 жыл бұрын
Still no wiser though
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
Will we ever be? 👍😂🤣
@mikef33002 жыл бұрын
Any noticeable power difference?
@CodgerBiker2 жыл бұрын
Not noticeable by me. 👍
@mikef33002 жыл бұрын
@@CodgerBiker I have the Yoshimura R77 on my 690. I have the spark arrester installed that was included. I really like it. It’s not loud but has a nice bark when the throttle is twisted.
@CodgerBiker2 жыл бұрын
Sounds good. Tone over volume every time! 👍
@randersson36723 жыл бұрын
You loose torque already with the smaller dbkiller.....
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
Not so much to notice really 👍
@randersson36723 жыл бұрын
@@CodgerBiker On my 19 690 it's very noticeble, but I have PCV and Rade with custom tune.
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
Well it's good to have flexibility. I prefer looks and cool running of Wings, now I can have nice tone at lower level too 👍
@randersson36723 жыл бұрын
@@CodgerBiker True, the thing was I really did not like the way the bike ran stock, low and midrange was very disapointing, I had my first thumper in the 80ties so the 690 felt weak in lower rpm's. With all the extras it is the perfect bike for me, love it !
@hooligantimes91323 жыл бұрын
Neighbors are overrated!
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
👍🤣
@michaelsupple60813 жыл бұрын
Good one!
@windrides3 жыл бұрын
Your bike is great but I think that most of the time you are trying to solve problems that don't really exist
@CodgerBiker3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy it. Unfortunately I do live in a built up area and I prefer to get along with people. If I was back on a farm I'd not bother. 👍
@robertandersson25233 жыл бұрын
If more people had less noisy bikes we would be more accepted and not waiting to be banned from riding in the future.