This shock set is interesting. Thank you for sharing.
@ArtyomMOTOMTB Жыл бұрын
I just removed shock on my 21 890 adv S. You dont need to remove wheel or even rear fender. Just screw in preload all the way and remove chain guard (top part). There is enough space to do it. Same for install. I did loosen two frame bolts near the top shock bolt
@alexeymenkin47583 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, its very helpful mate!
@Kaysersoza7 ай бұрын
Wow you are a good mechanic
@gregheth2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I prefer your long video to follow your reasoning
@TrooperTed2 жыл бұрын
Great video, has me looking at their website now. Just on the flickering on camera from the garage footage, you can change your camera settings to be either p a l or n s t c and it should align with the frequency of the lights and stop the flickering in the footage.
@Adv_Charlie2 жыл бұрын
Ah ok I didn’t know that 👍🏻i’ll have a look at my settings.
@ScrapYardDog642 жыл бұрын
Superb vid, my 790S needs a leg re anodising so I'll get both pairs done silver maybe even gold like my Thruxton R, definately will use TracTive Suspension, I'm a bit of a lardy at 5'9"'s 98kg's and the rear feels ok, I'm not after MX greatness so I'll do the front end first!
@Adv_Charlie2 жыл бұрын
It’s so nice having the adjustment. I’ve been playing with mine while talking to Torque Racing and the bike is even better than I was straight after the swap. I’m loving it suspension and wheels are the best mods i’ve made. Most expensive but the best
@kuanyi596242 жыл бұрын
Great video
@adventurejoiner Жыл бұрын
nice vid charlie
@mikedejanovich10762 жыл бұрын
Great job , thanks for sharing.
@defylifeadventure2 жыл бұрын
"What I believe I have now is an Adventure R at the height of the S" Tractive shock is probably better than the WP XPLOR shock which is horribly harsh even when the sag is correct.
@SoyVidaenMoto Жыл бұрын
Good video, good information, I'm looking as well for an upgrade in suspension but for my Norden 901, would be nice if you explain after some use, how it feels the new suspensions. good luck!
@Adv_Charlie Жыл бұрын
Had it a year now and it is so much better than stock maybe more i can do with the settings on the adjustments but at least i have the adjustability now. I’m very happy with the purchase
@SoyVidaenMoto Жыл бұрын
@@Adv_Charlie sounds good! thanks for the info!! and please do more videos like that, are very good!
@Erik-gg2vb2 жыл бұрын
Good how to. I just bought a used 2020 790 adv,s also and it came with the same shock, X-TREME-PA. My forks have the Andreani cartridges installed. Are they the same in quality or is one better than the other comparing yours to mine? Mine also came with a Camel brand CAT heat shield.
@Adv_Charlie2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure about a comparison between Andreani and TracTive from my research TracTive appears to be more off road focused. Camel products are really good, I have their 1 finger clutch which I makes a world of difference
@8andsk835 Жыл бұрын
I have the same bike with the same heat shield. It keeps all that heat off ur ankles
@unstoptravel1019 Жыл бұрын
Has the collapse distance increased from the original?
@Adv_Charlie Жыл бұрын
No, the travel length has not changed.
@AlsRides2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I'm about to do something similar. I'm debating between getting the tractive forks or k-tech internals. Definitely getting the rear shock tho! Do you have any protection for the tanks when going offroad or do you feel it's not needed? I've not thought of getting crash bars however venturing offroad more has made me consider it.
@Adv_Charlie2 жыл бұрын
Trust me the bike crashes very will the must haves are a bash plate, folding or removable mirrors and alloy hand guards. The tank can take a beating and the covers are cheap if you fall enough times
@greatfallskam11 ай бұрын
Question regarding lower shock bolt. In particular the right side 14 mm. Hex Left Handed ( LH ) Adjuster nut. When you start removing the big Torx lower bolt ( from Left side ), do you place your 14 mm. Hex bit and just hold it in place? I noticed you loosen that right side 14 mm. Adjuster nut after loosening ( removing I think ) bolt.
@Adv_Charlie11 ай бұрын
Hi, So the manual says to loosen the top bolt first then loosen the bottom bolt without removing them, then loosen the LH adjuster nut. Thinking about it I don't think you'll need to hold it still, if I'm right they will both loosen off at the same time because the LH thread will allow both parts to rotate the same way. I think? But I'd be very careful with the adjuster nut. If it seems stuck but you can remove the bolt see if you can get the shock out like that. It's very soft and if you lean on it too hard to get it unstuck you can break it and the swing arm around the adjuster nut. This is due to your hex bit being harder and it spins within the adjuster nut. The corners of the hex bit then push out on the ally of the nut and swing arm. It's an easy job you just have to be careful and not put too much force on the adjuster nut.
@stealthworks97587 ай бұрын
Very nice and informative video! Has it ever happened that at 12:45 when removing the bottom bolt that holds the cartridge,the whole cartridge spins with the bolt? I am in this current situation and i think that an impact gun is the only solution.
@Adv_Charlie7 ай бұрын
Is the fork still complete or have you removed the cap? It might undo better with the fork complete. Are you following the repair manual? A impart will work if you are careful
@stealthworks97587 ай бұрын
@@Adv_Charlie I tried removing it with the cap on and then off but the whole cartridge spins either way,I am following the manual instructions,they simply say to remove the bolt but thats not so simple when thr whole thing spins. I am waiting currently for an impact.
@Adv_Charlie7 ай бұрын
@@stealthworks9758 yes sounds like that will be your best bet.
@stealthworks97587 ай бұрын
@@Adv_Charlie thanks for the help!
@SeanDobby2 жыл бұрын
Just come across the video, very nice - also looking at upgrading my suspension but considering just replacing the spring in forks and on shock as per touratech which cost around $400 … would love to know the difference?!
@Adv_Charlie2 жыл бұрын
I can’t compare any other products or set ups other than between stock and the Tractive extreme suspension as that’s all I ridden on this bike. I guess the question you need to ask yourself is, do you want the adjustability or just a more suited spring weight?
@timsalabimbombassa Жыл бұрын
Do you know if it is possible to raise the bike and the suspension travel? By using the TT kit for the Norden 901 for example?
@Adv_Charlie Жыл бұрын
That I don't know, you would have to go to the Tractive website and see what options there are for your bike.
@greatfallskam Жыл бұрын
Do you have any follow up video on how the Tractive suspension performed on your KTM 790 Adv. S ?
@Adv_Charlie Жыл бұрын
Currently no. Maybe I should make one. What I can say is I love it and it’s amazing to have the adjustability.
@RedRupert64 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I have an 890AR, and am very disappointed with the suspension - it's hard and harsh. My sag figures confirm that the suspension is too hard, specially up front. TracTiv seems to be the way to go. Have you measured your sag since installing the TracTiv units?
@Adv_Charlie Жыл бұрын
I did measure it once i have it installed and it it was correct for me. However now a year and a but on i need to check it again as the suspension would have all bed in now. Honestly one of the best upgrades. However my cousin who is “normal” size has no issues with his stock R suspension. But i would say Tractive Extreme would be an upgrade from the stock R stuff.
@RedRupert64 Жыл бұрын
@@Adv_Charlie Thanks. I didn't mention that I use the 890AR mainly for road riding, therefore I don't need to allow for the hard hits that one experiences off-road. I'm aiming for a softer, but but well controlled ride. It's a good point that the suspension tends to bed in after a while.
@Adv_Charlie Жыл бұрын
@@RedRupert64 I did wonder if you didn’t do much off road based on your comment. A cheaper and second option might be just to get your stock suspension re-sprung so it is softer.
@RedRupert64 Жыл бұрын
@@Adv_Charlie I have been considering that, but it looks as if the springs will have to come from the US. By the time postage, VAT and duty have been paid, one might as well go for the TracTiv items. It seems that TracTiv may be a better solution for a soft but well controlled ride. I weigh 90kg (max. with all kit).
@cliftonsr Жыл бұрын
After you draw the fluid out of the forks to the level that shows to be 90mm from the top it seems to need no more than 3 fluid ounces per fork with this upgrade, maybe because of the thicker cartridges taking up the space compared to the stock ones?
@Adv_Charlie Жыл бұрын
Yes because they are a closed cartridge and not just a spring more space is used
@cliftonsr Жыл бұрын
@@Adv_Charlie Your video was awesome and thanks for the quick reply!
@eloialmeida43395 ай бұрын
Thanks guys @cliftonsr @charliecottle. Did a similar upgrade on my 790, with the Touratech ones, Wich is pretty much the same. And was surprised that the dealer returned the oil bottle with only 200ml consumed. I was starting to freak out 🤣🤣🤣 It makes more sense now 👌 Cheers !
@sudhinkumars79402 ай бұрын
So basically this is a 200mm travel fully adjustable back suspension...and what difference made it on the front bcoz it was already fully adjustable...or is it that sring sag is much more now?
@Adv_Charlie2 ай бұрын
No, the stock adventure suspension is only has adjustable preload on the rear and there is no adjustment at all on the front. So aside from the spring rate change I now have very good, full adjustment on the front and rear.
@elecro9460 Жыл бұрын
To maintain the same seat height do you need to make some adjustments?
@Adv_Charlie Жыл бұрын
No, the kit I brought was for the S and leaves the bike the same height. The adjustments are just for how the suspension responds to the terrain.
@54zk2 жыл бұрын
Ive had that suspension for 6months or so, love it! I'm 5'4" with a 26" inseam, almost went 1inch shorter but didnt. Is the Seat concepts seat worth it? does it really get you closer to the floor?
@Adv_Charlie2 жыл бұрын
Yes it gets you an inch lower and it’s does and it's very comfortable. I have done video on the seat too
@justsomedude4452 жыл бұрын
i just ordered up the 'Tractive extreme' rear shock and fork drop in inserts from Konflict motorsports , i mean just now ten min ago , good timing i find your vid here , for the other reason though i think as im 188cm & 107kg , was disappointed with the stock Norden 901 suspension so . 🤞🤞 hope i did the right thing , ill be watching you for your feedback on yours worth the cost ??
@Adv_Charlie2 жыл бұрын
So far i’m very happy with it still on the steep learning curve of figuring out how the adjustments affect the bike.
@justsomedude4452 жыл бұрын
@@Adv_Charlie it made a big enough diff to be worth the money ??
@Adv_Charlie2 жыл бұрын
I would say so.
@justsomedude4452 жыл бұрын
@@Adv_Charlie thanks , 👍 , i pulled the trigger , E.T.A..3weeks
@justsomedude4452 жыл бұрын
@@Adv_Charlie now im getting ETA 3 More weeks ...........😒
@justsomedude4452 жыл бұрын
you do make it look simple but i think this install is beyond my own mechanical ability unfortunately