Couldn’t have said it any better.

I have yet to hear anything by Bruch that isn't wonderfully listenable.

His real name was Max Steele

Certainly one of the best slow movements in a symphony of the second half of the nineteenth century!

So this is not actually the 2nd movement of Bruch's Symphony No. 3,and is something else that the people who put this performance together put in by mistake you're saying?Interesting-maybe the actual 2nd movement has spent all these years thinking it was the 3rd movement of his 2nd Symphony or something-ha ha ha?!!

You're right... Charles was a different type of nighah, the type you didn't want to find on a rainy night, which made his music so... baroquesque.

Yes, Bruch is more than just his famous 1st violin concerto. I will check out Stanford's 5th. Thanks for the tip.

Thanks. I will give CVS's 5th a listen (I like his 3rd, though it almost comes into the category of light music).

He was apparently quite a difficult person to deal with, which limited his works' popularity with performers during his lifetime.

True !!!!!

I am very fond of this symphony too -- the slow movement is gorgeous and the attractive melody of the finale has a distinctive sound, perhaps English?

Perhaps, yes.

I like the word "sincere" you used. It sums this symphony up in one word. To compare Bruch to Brahms like so many do is tedious at least and annoying at most. Bruch was Bruch, Brahms was Brahms. end of story.

I fully agree with you, needless to say.

I really enjoy this symphony as well. I actually discovered this piece on KDFC a while back, and even the host agreed that it is not often performed.

@@mzzyzx KDFC = Ken Ducky Fried Chicken?

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I disagree. This is not just Brahmsian melancholia or heaviness. Much too cheerful for Brahms.

@@flanor7540 -- So....Dvořák?

I'm sorry, are you suggesting that one would not be able to tell the difference between the music of Brahms and this? That one might hear this without knowing the composer and think that it was a work of Brahms? You're joking, right? Or perhaps you're saying that if people saw the name "Brahms", they would immediately deem it a great work, even though it is so mediocre. There you may have a point, but that of course has to do with the listener, not the work. This is a turgid, faceless, almost completely unmemorable attempt at a symphonic essay by an intermittently memorable second-rate composer. The works of Brahms are some of the greatest, most visionary, most powerful music that has ever been composed.

@@nicholasfox966 -- No, rather it's like when I listen to Rakhmaninov, I hear occasional echoes of Glière and Tschaikowsky....same with Dvořák/Brahms and Brahms/Schubert/Beethoven. Is it all in the mind of the Listener? Or might there not have been hereditary influences? Greetings from San Agustinillo!

@@steveegallo3384 I was responding to the original post. Of course there is such a thing as influence, but that isn't what I think the original poster meant. Again, if he means to imply that this is somehow either similar to or somehow in the same universe of quality as the music of Brahms, I have to assume he's either joking or is very unfamiliar with the music of Brahms. If he's making a comment about the often shallow way people listen to music ("Oh, this is by Brahms? Then it's great!"), then of course he makes a valid point.

Finde ich ebenfalls schön. Wir haben hier in Fortaleza mal das Violinkonzert gespielt. übrigens ganz grosse Klasse dei Postings von KuhlauDilfeng. Obwohl ich Musik studiert habe, tachen gerade hier immer mehr unbekannt und qualitativ hervorragende Komponisten auf, die den bekannteren um nichts nachstehen.

Christine Martin It IS an enchanting movement, though the entire symphony is impressive. The hymn tune at the outset of the finale moves me very deeply.

I know right?! I played it last year in the Waltham Philharmonic!

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Raff completed eleven symphonies., a piano concerto and a violin concerto

The painting looks like in "Godly repose" and I bet it looks better than if you saw the scene for real. It seems divinely illuminated as if it was accented or highlighted by God or God was mysteriously in its presence.

Agreed; I've been digging deeper and deeper this Covid season and finding wonderful treasures like this one!

@@davidjared3402 - Indeed! I guess there is a silver lining to the COVID cloud... 😅

try to write music (never hear before) takes a lot of dedication.

Because he was trying to write music that touched our deepest feelings, not just tafelmusik like Mozart wrote.

@@aragornthebrave I mean, have you heard Mozart's Requiem, or his last few symphonies, or his Piano Sonata in A minor, or some of the piano concerti, or his operas, or... Sure, Mozart wrote a lot of lighthearted stuff, but there's no reason to bring him down - he also wrote some very serious stuff.. Bruch can be fantastic even if Mozart is (which he really is).

@@klop4228 I do like the Requiem actually, but I do think Mozart is hugely overrated. Beethoven should have the top spot.

+James Budzinski The painting is called The Heart of the Andes by Frederic Edwin Church

Yeah! Credit the artist!

@@LeStove thank you. That was my question, too, more on the top.

Il s´agit d´un oeuvre de Frederic Edwin Church: La Coeur des Andes

Och, wusste ich gar nicht dass Bruch Kölner war. Ich habe dort 15 Jahre lang gewohnt, und ein Teil meiner Familie ist von dort. Übrigens viele davon auch aus Bergisch Gladbach, wo er ja auch viel war. Beziehungen zum Fabrikant Zanders usw. (Habe bei Wikipedia nachgelesen).

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The Heart of the Andes by Frederic Edwin Church

I sense Wagnerian influence in at least some of the orchestral writing style of this symphony, to be honest.

Sibelius was 22 when this symphony was composed, Wagner influenced Bruch and Sibelius which is one of the reasons why you hear strains of this symphony in Sibelius. Especially in the motives & melodies !

No.

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Of course he is. Lil is as Lil as he can be.

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