Sigismond Thalberg - Piano Concerto in F-minor, Op.5 (1830)

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Sigismond Thalberg (January 8, 1812 -- April 27, 1871) was a composer and one of the most distinguished virtuoso pianists of the 19th century.
Work: Piano Concerto in F-minor, Op.5 (1830)
Mov.I: Allegro moderato 00:00
Mov.II: Adagio 13:43
Mov.III: Rondo: Allegro 18:33
Pianist: Francesco Nicolosi
Orchestra: Razumovsky Symphony Orchestra
Conductor: Andrew Mogrelia

Пікірлер: 168
@eurooscar1
@eurooscar1 6 ай бұрын
Excellent concerto, it deserves to be more known and played all around!
@user-zz8rk1qy6b
@user-zz8rk1qy6b 3 ай бұрын
Not human! I fell in love with this Thalberg.
@nicholasndege2892
@nicholasndege2892 8 жыл бұрын
i live for the moments when the piano takes over from the Orchestra
@derleopard2
@derleopard2 8 жыл бұрын
:-)
@PianomanRay
@PianomanRay 7 жыл бұрын
NICHOLAS NDEGE gosh me too!!
@trappaskunk
@trappaskunk 5 жыл бұрын
KZfaq has allowed many music lovers the opportunity to finally discover the works of composers who were hitherto forced to the margins of history. I have been especially loving the work of guys like Thalberg and Anotn Reicha. I feel Reicha is especially in need of greater study and wider appreciation. THis work by THalberg is beautiful, classically proportioned with many amazing moments and great turns of phrase - lots of sturm and drang - and that wonderful romantic F minor mood that shines thru in chopin and beethoven.
@rookhoatzin
@rookhoatzin 5 жыл бұрын
I could not agree more, the variety and depth of available music is one aspect in which youtube is a real treasure. Just last night i was listening to Ferdinand Ries and Franciszek Lessel, both amazing composers whom i have never heard before. full of sturm und drang as you say. I shall make a note of Reicha for later.
@MikJFr
@MikJFr 3 жыл бұрын
@@rookhoatzin Keep going with Ferdinand Ries: you won't be disappointed.
@ferdiriordan1
@ferdiriordan1 4 жыл бұрын
Astonishing.I have been lucky enough to have been introduced to "classical" music more than 65 years ago and I keep learning more every day (born 1943)This pianist has amazing sensitivity,
@user-bj7uw8wr6j
@user-bj7uw8wr6j Жыл бұрын
Век живи-век учись, как гласит русская пословица! Здоровья и долголетия!
@georgiepentch
@georgiepentch 3 жыл бұрын
4:34-5:21 So playful, I love it.
@ricknowalk4632
@ricknowalk4632 4 жыл бұрын
I won't say this concerto is a masterpiece, but it is a very worthy work and doesn't deserve the obscurity to which it has descended. I'd pay to see it performed live, that's for sure.
@Dan474834
@Dan474834 2 жыл бұрын
No you wouldn’t…
@no-rq7fp
@no-rq7fp 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dan474834 How are you so sure?
@Dan474834
@Dan474834 2 жыл бұрын
@@no-rq7fp Because it’s crap
@no-rq7fp
@no-rq7fp 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dan474834 lmao did you just like your own comment?
@jenskluge7188
@jenskluge7188 Жыл бұрын
I would say it *is* a master piece.
@nicholasndege2892
@nicholasndege2892 8 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of music that makes me feel otherworldly.
@johannbrandstatter7419
@johannbrandstatter7419 5 жыл бұрын
No matter how often I listen to this concerto, it's magnificent !
@MedievalRichard
@MedievalRichard 8 жыл бұрын
Superb stuff and I just love the painting in the video which is titled "Winter in Switzerland" by Jasper Francis Cropsey, 1861.
@stefanstamenic3640
@stefanstamenic3640 2 ай бұрын
Excellently written and excellently performed. Thalberg, the greatest piano virtuoso (he was also a composer) of those times (and perhaps the greatest pianist ever), and this can be seen in the fees. Liszt and Chopin "constantly stealing" the piano craft from Thalberg. He managed to produce a three-dimensional sound on the piano in the concert hall!
@germancardoso3587
@germancardoso3587 5 жыл бұрын
When I listen to these pieces of the past which are practically never played by great pianists I wonder why they are almost unknown. They should also be included in repertoires, since they also have their own values. We are a bit fed up with pianists always playing the same piano concertos (Chopin, Schumann, Liszt, Brahms, etc etc ). These other concertos should also be played every now and then for a change.
@Santosificationable
@Santosificationable 4 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@peskypesky
@peskypesky 3 жыл бұрын
absolutely!!!!!!!!!!
@AnhPHAM-pw4uh
@AnhPHAM-pw4uh 3 жыл бұрын
Because this concerto has parts where it sounds like Chopin's No.1? And concerts with more famous composers' works are not even totally sold out, so organizers can't take more risk to lose more bucks.
@adrianwright8685
@adrianwright8685 3 жыл бұрын
Well there are at least 50 pc's which are played regularly but - looking at the list below - about another 500! by 'lesser' composers. It's good that many have been performed and recorded but hardly surprising that some are heard less than others - who could possibly listen to all of them? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_for_piano_and_orchestra
@pjbpiano
@pjbpiano 3 жыл бұрын
@@AnhPHAM-pw4uh it's possible that the concert halls are not being sold out because the audience are tired of the repetition.
@polyphoniac
@polyphoniac 9 жыл бұрын
This pianist has an uncommonly beautiful sound and deserves to be better known.
@ronaldoribeiroferreira1029
@ronaldoribeiroferreira1029 9 жыл бұрын
polyphoniac I agree 100% with you!!!!!
@brianandrewleahy1
@brianandrewleahy1 8 жыл бұрын
+polyphoniac listen to his renditions of the Thalberg opera fantasies. My favorite one is based on Rossini's "Semiramide" and its played with a truly magnificent tone and beautiful shadings. :)
@davebogle1165
@davebogle1165 8 жыл бұрын
I've listened to a lot of Nicolosi's recordings on KZfaq, and every one is excellent: technically in control and always musical (not just flashiness). I agree with all the praise he's getting here.
@adeemuff
@adeemuff 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Francesco Nicolosi has undertaken an immense endeavor of bringing beautiful piano works of less known or even unknown composers and performed them so well! He didn't have any guidance like previous famous recordings, so we're hearing his own vision, and it's done incredibly well. Huge respect to Maestro!
@jessevallejo8797
@jessevallejo8797 Жыл бұрын
The pianist has a beautiful sound? I could've sworn it was the piano that produced the sound. Yes, the pianist controls the music & instrument, but he is not singing, figuratively, the piano is.
@smaug06
@smaug06 Жыл бұрын
Magnifico concierto, gran destreza del pianista
@foveauxbear
@foveauxbear 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for opening my eyes to this colourful, imaginative and totally engaging composer.
@Mathieu_Poirier_Piano
@Mathieu_Poirier_Piano Жыл бұрын
Something to consider: Chopin had only just left Poland in 1830, so Thalberg (and most of Europe) had likely never heard of him at the time of writing this concerto. So where do the apparent stylistic similarities between their concertos come from? For the answer to that, please listen to Hummel's piano concerti, particularly the concerto in A minor, op. 85, which influenced not only Chopin but also Mendelssohn and Schumann. Thalberg's piano concerto is even dedicated to Hummel, so the source of the influence is quite easy to trace.
@JayveeSonata
@JayveeSonata 4 жыл бұрын
A marvelous concerto and brilliant performance. Thalberg wrote this when he was 18 ?? Wow!
@solomonal-harbi8788
@solomonal-harbi8788 7 жыл бұрын
what a beautiful magical era !
@julynersissyan5746
@julynersissyan5746 2 жыл бұрын
My son sent me this video and I'm thankful to him for the opportunity to listen this wonderful concert that I have necer heard it before. And the play of the pianist was excellent
@Terativ
@Terativ 9 жыл бұрын
composed when he was 18 :D
@temporality_
@temporality_ 3 жыл бұрын
@DrRock Rachmaninoff was similar
@DaveWhitmore421
@DaveWhitmore421 9 жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful piano concerto.
@richardallen3810
@richardallen3810 5 жыл бұрын
Very good concerto overshadowed by other works to often performed. Quite Chopinesque still delightfully played giving us a glimpse at Thalbergs genius
@sneezyserena
@sneezyserena 5 жыл бұрын
This is a quite wonderful concerto and one which deserves to be much better known. (Unlike some neglected music which is neglected for good reasons). It is very reminiscent of Chopin and Mendelssohn; like those composers Thalberg was clearly as youthful prodigy given that this was composed when he was only eighteen.
@thejoyofmusic899
@thejoyofmusic899 9 жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful. Thank you.
@gramo63
@gramo63 7 жыл бұрын
What a delightful and stirring concerto! I had never heard it before, until today. I shall look for more compositions by Herr Thalberg. Hopefully, .some of them are performed live. Vielen Dank, KuhlauDilfeng2!
@labenditacontrasena
@labenditacontrasena 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. Thanks for posting this beautiful work.
@paulotrabaland9916
@paulotrabaland9916 7 жыл бұрын
Et dire qu'il y a un mois je ne connaissais pas ce compositeur ! maintenant je l'écoute en boucle , merci !
@MegaCirse
@MegaCirse 5 жыл бұрын
To listen to Thalberg is to abolish the surge of noises and images of everyday life to open up the space of an elsewhere where contingency and representation give way to the immateriality of the sensible. Once closed the door on the agitation of the world, an underlying silence settles down, a slowness seizes, preludes to a dilation of the perception and the conscience. The expressive power of sound architecture breaks with all forms of transcription of the real to focus on expression of an elusive universe
@mvanveen4689
@mvanveen4689 7 жыл бұрын
KuhlauDilfeng, Thanks for this beautiful concert.
@Amourtendresse
@Amourtendresse 8 ай бұрын
Pure merveille 🎶💓🎶✨
@Spyrine
@Spyrine 3 жыл бұрын
0:00 first movement 13:43 second movement 18:33 third movement
@ecureuilvigilant4315
@ecureuilvigilant4315 6 жыл бұрын
Excellentissime. Merveilleux. Rentre dans mon top 10. Merci pour ce partage.
@paacer
@paacer 8 жыл бұрын
What wonderful music, many thanks for uploading .
@martinbriddon4472
@martinbriddon4472 4 жыл бұрын
the Piano Concerto is really beautiful in every part of its composition Martin Briddon 8th December 2019 Classical Pianist from Chesterfield Derbyshire
@MrGer2295
@MrGer2295 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! Thanks for sharing!
@FranciscoFerrerGaliana1930
@FranciscoFerrerGaliana1930 5 жыл бұрын
Gracias por este fantástico concierto. Es espectacular..¡¡¡
@paulgreen9792
@paulgreen9792 4 жыл бұрын
This concerto displays a wide and varied psychological, emotional and intellectual typography. I found it so delightfully engaging from start to finish. This composer had skills! His virtuosity doubtless added tremendously to the dramatic punch especially of the first movement. I was particularly captivated by the cadenza halfway through the first movement. It was like a plateau and beautiful landing to continue onto the conclusion of a scenic journey. There was an abundance of melody expertly conceived and developed to draw in the listener to make him a happy collaborator and anticipator of what was around each corner and bend. The slow movement was contemplative and soothing; though I was surprised at it’s brevity. The finale was a very fitting run of scintillating and spirited ideas that made me smile for the duration. Very masterful I say and indicative of the mutual influence enjoyed by the composers of that era to inspire all to produce their best efforts. Brava!!! PWG
@paulgreen9792
@paulgreen9792 4 жыл бұрын
Some years ago a thought occurred to me and I’ve since shared it with countless people. “Music expresses wordless odyssey’s.” It’s especially suited for contemplation and may even be provocative to expansive consideration to personal discovery. Music being preeminent among the arts, when wielded artfully, has a innate prophetic property as pertaining to precise and profoundly piercing utterance which in many cases imparts life and knowledge to the spirit and consequently the soul, mind, and most pleasurably the intellect. In that God is the creator of every concept it is certainly to our credit and ultimate advantage to take into account without prejudice every gift he has endowed. Otherwise we are in peril of stumbling about in the darkness of being “wise in our own conceits?” God forbid! Sincerely, Paul W. Green
@benjaminsawyer1292
@benjaminsawyer1292 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulgreen9792 So beautifully put, Paul! Thank you for sharing your wonderful insight!
@paulgreen6921
@paulgreen6921 3 жыл бұрын
You’re so welcome brother Sawyer! When a very young boy; every time I heard certain classical music pieces, especially Tchaikovsky, my little soul would ring like a bell. What could I do? That is one reason I call it philosophical music. Consequently, it’s become my chief pastime and constant companion. There is an original expression that occurred to me some years ago that I love sharing, particularly with strangers “All kinds of beautiful music and philosophic”. Also, I have been a vocalist since childhood and received excellent training from my late mother; who taught me by example beauty of tone and expression. It is a legacy I “pay forward” at every opportunity. “ Music expresses wordless odyssey’s.” PWG
@fredericchopin7538
@fredericchopin7538 2 жыл бұрын
Marvelous!
@kseniamoriss9210
@kseniamoriss9210 Жыл бұрын
From the first sounds ❤
@patrickdeclairieux5314
@patrickdeclairieux5314 3 жыл бұрын
YES, FERDIA, JUST ASTONISHING TO DISCOVER THALBERG, THROUGH THEGENEVA STREET NAMED AFTER THIS WONDERFUL AND UNIQUE MUSICIANS, THAT WE ALL OWE SUCH A LOT ... CHEERS PATRICK
@Concurr
@Concurr 9 жыл бұрын
... this is fantastic. Thank you!
@adyrsebastiaoferreira5572
@adyrsebastiaoferreira5572 5 жыл бұрын
Concerto inspiradíssimo é maravilhoso! Thalberg externou todo o seu virtuosismo com técnica e até moderação!
@adolin1338
@adolin1338 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant 3rd movement, another great upload Kuhlau, bless you.
@plto4ka71
@plto4ka71 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Beautiful music.
@PaoloCampa
@PaoloCampa 5 жыл бұрын
concert pianists should dare more in their rconcerts' programs and play also this forgotten repertoire
@ammarnaji68
@ammarnaji68 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic and great work.
@mr.sophistication2461
@mr.sophistication2461 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@marcalexandrefontenay9801
@marcalexandrefontenay9801 Жыл бұрын
Inspiré par Chopin, concurrent de Liszt,Thalberg brillant pianiste n’a pas réussi à dépasser ses maîtres mais son concerto op 5 s’écoute toujours avec ravissement !
@jenskluge7188
@jenskluge7188 Жыл бұрын
The use of the orchestra is superior to chopins concertos and comparabke to mendelssohn in my opinion. the piano part is very beautiful, too. this concerto should be played more often.
@bantersam1
@bantersam1 9 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the piano. Very good orchestral piece. Thank you for this lovely work.
@stevesalzano942
@stevesalzano942 8 жыл бұрын
I believe the third movement begins at 18:32, and thanks for all of the great music!
@staudtwerner
@staudtwerner 6 жыл бұрын
sounds like a human who feels not welcome to this world, but nevertheless he has a secret friend, who helps him going on
@Alessandro_da_Rimini
@Alessandro_da_Rimini 10 ай бұрын
it deserves a video
@prammar1951
@prammar1951 3 жыл бұрын
The is what magic sounds like.
@osmansensoy7458
@osmansensoy7458 7 жыл бұрын
I really don't understand, why only a couple of composers are performed most of the time in the Concert Halls ? ........ Thalberg, A. Rubinstein, Dussek, Wiklund, F.Danzi and many others should be taken in their repertuar of the talented pianists.
@reallynobody9748
@reallynobody9748 7 жыл бұрын
Thalberg is still quite popular though.
@alanleoneldavid1787
@alanleoneldavid1787 3 жыл бұрын
I Think that Is bc "mainstream'" classical composers are better. Not like much more better bot they are trascendentals (Bach , Rameau, Scarlatti baroque ; Mozart , Haydn Beethoven classic; Schubert, Schumann , Chopin, Mendelsohn , Liszt and Brahms midromantic and late romantic Rachmaninoff, Scriabin, Mednter . And modern Bartok, Schoenberg, Debussy , ravel Stravinsky Berg, Prokofiev and some others that are very importants. His works are a lot and to any pianist play all the important "mainstream" works It's a livetime to learn those works and even the biggest pianist dont reach tp play all those works. And then if a average pianist put his priority on thpse works then the others composers put on a 2nd place and thats is why is not performed always in my opinion
@fanniemilio3139
@fanniemilio3139 7 жыл бұрын
superbe peinture!
@douglasdickerson5184
@douglasdickerson5184 2 жыл бұрын
👏🏻
@marcustorquatus
@marcustorquatus 10 жыл бұрын
Un vrai plaisir.
@Terativ
@Terativ 9 жыл бұрын
wish he composed more concertos
@larssamer602
@larssamer602 3 жыл бұрын
I live in a Villiage in germany Called Thalberg
@terraytia
@terraytia 8 жыл бұрын
It was very good!
@francoislejeune6386
@francoislejeune6386 4 жыл бұрын
I just discovered Thalberg. Maybe weirdly but, I find that this piece sounds like a "mix" between a Dvorak symphony (the adventure), every Mozart pieces (especially the Requiem, I don't know why...) and a Beethoven piano concerto (the piano at its best between velocity and melancholy)
@xresdkj
@xresdkj Жыл бұрын
Amazing! All wonderful, from allegro to rondo. Thanks for this post! Always knowing the least expected. By the way, where does this charming painting come from? Espetacular! Toda maravilhosa, do allegro ao rondo. Agradeço por esta postagem! Sempre conhecendo o que menos se esperava. A propósito, essa encantadora pintura de onde vem?
@jeanaprea8216
@jeanaprea8216 5 жыл бұрын
excellent comcerto de Sigismond thalbert a ecouté sur un voilier tout t'en vogant sur les vagues
@peskypesky
@peskypesky 3 жыл бұрын
GORGEOUS!!
@zh900
@zh900 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful indeed!
@tonylogan4092
@tonylogan4092 3 жыл бұрын
Nicolosi has an outstanding performance here on the piano. This is a very weird painting. What is the meaning of life in the mountains like that?
@marcellszabo1885
@marcellszabo1885 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, the first bar is like exactly the c- minor Chopin prelude. :)
@beyondtheirlevel3726
@beyondtheirlevel3726 5 жыл бұрын
Uuuuuu that's goooooood
@johnnelson3665
@johnnelson3665 Жыл бұрын
Very Chopin-esque. ❤️
@DiCostanzoRaffaele
@DiCostanzoRaffaele Жыл бұрын
Sicuramente più bello dei due concerti per pianoforte di Chopin e di quelle di palle di concerti per piano di Liszt
@emiliocozzitorto847
@emiliocozzitorto847 6 жыл бұрын
bello
@mohammadfaris5571
@mohammadfaris5571 5 жыл бұрын
The rondo is amazing 18:32
@sircurich.curich3532
@sircurich.curich3532 4 жыл бұрын
Danke schon
@alexololo6644
@alexololo6644 5 жыл бұрын
Alkan`s concerto a-moll was premiered a year after
@XAVER9192
@XAVER9192 6 жыл бұрын
Das erinnert sehr an Carl Maria von Weber
@luis25636
@luis25636 8 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable, I can hear Hummel as well as Chopin in this work
@darrylschultz9311
@darrylschultz9311 5 жыл бұрын
That's coz they would often be looking over Thalberg's shoulder while he was busy at his desk composing,and later when he was asleep they would sneak in and make changes here and there throughout the score to parts they didn't like-(so Trump says anyway).
@tonylogan4092
@tonylogan4092 3 жыл бұрын
@@darrylschultz9311 That’s a very interesting theory indeed,
@gerardbegni2806
@gerardbegni2806 5 жыл бұрын
Thalberg is considered to-day as a challenger of Liszt in terms of virtuosity, that is all. His work as a compooser is fuly forhotten. Of course, it is much more conventional than Liszt's, and the role of the orchestra is less important and more conventional - iy is not really a concrto, like many of similar compositions, since there is no "competition" between the piano and the orchestra, as in Mozart, Beethoven's, KIset's, Brahms' conertos, but this score is far from being negligible. It was worth to discover it again.
@maxmustermann5866
@maxmustermann5866 3 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know the name of this wonderfully picture ?
@pascalmayer9421
@pascalmayer9421 Жыл бұрын
Sigismund Thalberg est un pianiste et compositeur autrichien né à Genève le 8 janvier 1812 et mort à Naples le 27 avril 1871. Jeunesse et formation Portrait de Thalberg enfant. Sigismund Thalberg est né le 8 janvier 1812 à Genève (ville française, à l'époque) et est enregistré à l’état civil comme étant le fils de Joseph Thalberg et Fortune Stein, tous deux originaires de Frankfurt-am-Main. Mais il a été établi qu’en fait Sigismund était le fruit d’une union illégitime et qu’en conséquence on lui avait attribué une fausse filiation et de faux noms. En effet, Sigismund Thalberg est en réalité le fils de la baronne Wetzlar et du prince Franz Joseph von Dietrichstein (ou son frère Moritz von Dietrichstein), qui était déjà marié. Cela dit, rien n’est sûr, et l’intrigue de la naissance de Thalberg reste entière, malgré des indices troublants. On connaît peu de choses sur la jeunesse de Thalberg. Mais la tradition veut qu'il ait rejoint la capitale autrichienne à l’âge de dix ans, accompagné de sa mère. Dès lors, il aurait pris des cours de piano avec Czerny et Hummel, mais à nouveau rien n’est sûr, ce d’autant plus que Czerny, dans ses Mémoires, ne fait pas état d’une quelconque rencontre avec Thalberg. En revanche, il aurait étudié avec le bassoniste August Mittag, premier basson du Hofoper de Vienne. Cette rencontre aurait été primordiale dans la vie de Thalberg : en effet, selon plusieurs sources, Sigismund, en arrivant à Vienne, se serait lié d’amitié avec le duc de Reichstadt, fils de Napoléon et de Marie-Louise d'Autriche, mieux connu sous le surnom de « l’Aiglon ». Ce dernier lui aurait tant relaté les hauts faits militaires de son père que Thalberg aurait été prêt d’embrasser une carrière militaire. L’on doit donc à Mittag la primeur d’avoir découvert le talent de Sigismund pour la musique et de l’avoir dirigé dans cette voie. Thalberg en 1826 À partir de l’année 1826, la biographie de Thalberg devient plus claire et les faits plus sûrs. Cette même année, il prend des leçons avec le pianiste Ignaz Moscheles, l’un des grands virtuoses de l’époque, et se produit pour la première fois en public, le 17 mai. En 1827, il joue le concerto en si mineur de Hummel. Dès lors, sa carrière est lancée et il joue régulièrement en public à Vienne. Son répertoire est surtout classique mais déborde sur les débuts du romantisme, avec les Concerti de Beethoven et les œuvres de Hummel. L’année suivante, en 1828, Thalberg publie sa première œuvre ; il s’agit de la Fantaisie sur des thèmes d’Euryanthe de Weber.
@EinSofVirtuoso
@EinSofVirtuoso 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I had only heard his Moses Fantasy with the "three handed" technique.
@JohannaA.5013
@JohannaA.5013 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the name or author of the painting?
@Nordicroo
@Nordicroo Жыл бұрын
You can easily hear the influence of Chopin here and there. It is no surprise as Thalberg was a fan of Chopin among others.
@richardcastromartinez4329
@richardcastromartinez4329 Ай бұрын
Dios mío!
@herrbrucvald6376
@herrbrucvald6376 8 жыл бұрын
Love this. What was the intersection of Thalberg's concerto with Chopin's concertos? Wouldn't be surprised if Chopin was 'inspired' by this, but don't know (as I write). The Rondo is particularly 1830s-Paris-salon scrumptious. Delightful.
@herrbrucvald6376
@herrbrucvald6376 8 жыл бұрын
Really? interesting. Thanks. I'd like to read that letter. Also a fan of the Burgmüller concerto btw!
@milton3204
@milton3204 7 жыл бұрын
I doubt it inspired Chopin, but it's very much possible that they were both inspired by the same composers like Kalkbrenner, Hummel, John Field etc. After all those are the composers that pioneered the "style brillante" that Chopin, Thalberg, Liszt, Mendelssohn and so on all practiced during the initial stages of their careers. It was probably one of the most popular styles of piano writing during the early romantic movement. Not a lot of people consider this type of historical context, which is why so many people prematurely categorize style brillante works as being "Chopinesque."
@angalafan
@angalafan 7 жыл бұрын
Milton Thanks for your comment and the wide and rich vision you give us of this great coming out romantic period. The problem is that nowadays quite a few of those composers remain present in our memory because of the ignorance and above all the lack of interest of the decision-makers in classical music standard, concert-halls directors and CD record companies but also radio channels diffusion. I am French and when I hear the director of the Paris Operas unable to make difference between Catalani' s " La mamma morta" and Bellini' s " Casta diva" on a TV show I think there is a great challenge to cope with.!
@herrbrucvald6376
@herrbrucvald6376 7 жыл бұрын
If I was a concert pianist I'd play it. But it's like the obscure Donizetti operas I love. Who can really sing them the way they deserve?? At least there are pianists who can play this, so there's no excuse for the Thalberg concerto's eclipse.......
@fuxbu
@fuxbu Жыл бұрын
What is the name if painting?
@xresdkj
@xresdkj Жыл бұрын
6:45 - 7:00 !!
@lilspring1057
@lilspring1057 9 жыл бұрын
Yes, please, whose painting is this :)??
@ztothg
@ztothg 9 жыл бұрын
Winter in Switzerland Jasper Francis Cropsey - 1861
@dukeweezo
@dukeweezo 8 жыл бұрын
+ztothg Cross in the mountains at dusk or dawn, and a strange gradient sky... must have had Caspar David Friedrich in mind when he painted this.
@carloslijoicarcano
@carloslijoicarcano 8 жыл бұрын
very nice........always the same theme for me.........why always the same concerts in live............or the same dvd, cd, etc.etc.etc. and always around the same composers!!!!!!! why this not????
@Alix777.
@Alix777. 8 жыл бұрын
cuz people want to listen what they know....sad
@carloslijoicarcano
@carloslijoicarcano 7 жыл бұрын
Because humans are stupids!!!!! and editors are bussines mans without musical taste.....
@Frankness9
@Frankness9 7 жыл бұрын
It´s a shame but musicians need to make a living. In order to do that, they need to get their names out there and more people come to listen when something well-known is played. Nobody can really be blamed for that, escpecially not the listeners, not everybody is that passionate about discovering new music and that´s okay. To call them stupid is really unfair. It´s just a very unfortunate situation.
@ly776
@ly776 5 жыл бұрын
@@Frankness9 on the other hand, 100,000 people have viewed this particular piece which is no small number in the classical music world. If one of these pieces were mixed into a program on a live concert of more known music (or similarly on classical music stations) people would listen and like it. What is needed is some good marketing angle to introduce such "lost" works - perhaps as a series of Bonus Rediscovered Treasures..Raiders of the Lost Art....or some such thing. Maybe people who attend the concert in person can download a free track of the new/old music as part of the ticket price. Then again, the classical music world is not exactly known for embracing innovation or straying from well worn tracks..
@giuseppedimarco8358
@giuseppedimarco8358 8 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Chopin! but, Pretty! Still!
@memedreams8558
@memedreams8558 6 жыл бұрын
This some good shit
@PianoGuy954
@PianoGuy954 7 жыл бұрын
17:57 Liszt's Ricordanza ?
@CziffraTheThird
@CziffraTheThird 6 жыл бұрын
Woah...yes.
@ValzainLumivix
@ValzainLumivix 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@moriscengic
@moriscengic 4 жыл бұрын
Composed after Chopins F minor concerto. I can hear many passages borrowed from Chopin
@moriscengic
@moriscengic 4 жыл бұрын
@DrRock I have the score of John Fields Nocturnes. Not bad but absolutely not genius, not anywhere close to Chopin's
@XAVER9192
@XAVER9192 6 жыл бұрын
Das erinnert mich an Chopin.....
@StuartSimon
@StuartSimon 8 жыл бұрын
No matter how structurally engrained into the sonata form of the finale the f-minor first theme is, the third and final return to the minor is always startling and disconcerting. What was Thalberg trying to prove by it?
@herrvonunknowngut7141
@herrvonunknowngut7141 5 жыл бұрын
er war erst 18.
@spac3craf
@spac3craf 5 жыл бұрын
one of the most important composers of the 19th C & moreso than Liszt who was a vulgarian
@koniiri3254
@koniiri3254 11 ай бұрын
Me at 18 y.o.: Umh Idk what to do in my life. It's so hard😭 Thalberg at 18 y.o:
@user-nh6kj4vo3z
@user-nh6kj4vo3z 5 жыл бұрын
Thalberg ' s werks are very good and romantic. But they hasn't pass the tests of time. Interesting,what artists of our century would be classic
@javiervelascomarquez3225
@javiervelascomarquez3225 2 жыл бұрын
Linares.
@user-iq2qu9fh3c
@user-iq2qu9fh3c 8 жыл бұрын
3.12 alla chopin
@DurpenHeimer
@DurpenHeimer 7 жыл бұрын
I hear it too...Polonaise?
@milton3204
@milton3204 7 жыл бұрын
Not "a la Chopin" but "a la style brillante." Both Chopin and Thalberg were practitioners of what used to be a very popular style of piano writing. Chopin just happens to be the most well known practitioner of that style, so people often mistake style brillante with chopinesque. Also this was published in 1830, though Chopin was relatively known in a few higher class circles he was still a virtually unknown in Western Europe. He would only ascend to fame after setting in Paris, and considering that Thalberg and Chopin are in the same age group it is doubtful Thalberg knew of his works back in 1830
@JuanCorea-wm6ho
@JuanCorea-wm6ho 7 жыл бұрын
Руслан Русланов resolución chopin was known before reaching Paris: schumann mentioned him in his publicación davidsbundler saying thank his works could be composed by schubert if schubert had beben a virtuoso
@franzitaduz
@franzitaduz 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the ability to play a piano was compared with Liszt without a „ winner“, but, as this concertodemonstrates, Liszt was the more consummate artist that could compose music as well.
@herrvonunknowngut7141
@herrvonunknowngut7141 4 жыл бұрын
sounds a bit like schubert.
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