Agreed. Its a small thing that helps elevate him as a villan

Indeed, and as much as I liked him, the second movie's villain was my favorite.

​@@erickchristensen746same, shen is amazing

Also he was mostly trying to pin on Shifu for his assholery he already was a sort of an asshole before denied the scroll he still would've created havoc after knowing the truth of the scroll, there's a reason only the dragon warrior was the scroll you've to be the Dragon warrior to 'get' the scroll not the other way around, it's not the scroll but the journey .not just about skills but character

​@@PrateekPandey2658it is mostly Shifu's fault. If Shifu displayed at least 1% of the pushback against Oogway when he denied Tigress, Tai Lung wound have felt seen and validated. Tai Lung was groomed and abandoned. His name was given to him by Shifu and that name translates to "Great Dragon"

Isn't there a wolf style too??

@@martythetickler there is like 30+ styles of animal mimicry martial arts, but they are not selected in the traditional 5-forms kungfu. 5-forms kungfu were basically traditional animal styles martial arts that are specifically selected from that list and then refined as a set of techniques.

The second is the best

@@ethancleaver1464yessir and the third is the funniest

“Young”

Thanks 🙂

I realized this too a couple of months back when I watched a kung fu panda 2 reaction from a different channel. It is such a small detail that is very easy to miss. Like, I've watched kung Fu Panda 2, probably a good 80 times since the first time I watched it when it first came out and I barely realized that detail like at around the end of 2023. It's a very small detail but also a very significant one ❤

Agreed. Some of the best fight scenes that actually show off character.

Two gets pretty close to one, but one is still slightly better.

Seriously, this is the only thing all day to bring me peace so I watched it again. Thank you so much

How the hell is goose a POS dad?? He clearly loves Po very much even if he’s misguided about the whole noodle soup thing. But it’s not like he’s a jerk or negligent.

Wait lol you meant Po’s dad. I thought you meant POS as in “piece of sh-,” I was like ‘How dare you?’ Goose is so sweet.

​@@albertjimeno5315😂

I swear I read that the SAME way. I had to read it 3 more times to make sure. 😂😂

Not THAT deep lil bro

@@cthulhuwu_ A movie with deep-written quotes and storytelling isn’t deep? Aight.

@@NickEclipse But is it Shifu's fault? We don't actually know how much he "drove" Tai Lung and how much Tai Lung was simply driven by his desire for power, greatness and meaning. Some people seem to interpret it as though Shifu was the main driver, but we know that Shifu treated Tai Lung way nicer than his later students. So while he may have unintentionally planted the idea in Tai Lungs mind, I very much doubt that he was actively "driving" / pushing him through training. Especially based on the end of Tai Lungs training montage, where he destroys the training devices, it seems the larger driver here was his own ego, which is what Oogway saw and why he denied him. So, lesson? Stay humble. Don't expect to be given stuff just because you're good (or even worse, think you're good) at something.

@@lukasr5867 Well, yes it is. Tai Lung said Shifu "knew" he was the Dragon Warrior, and Shifu does not deny that. Which implies he either told Tai Lung that or made it obvious what he thought. That's why Shifu doesn't deny it, he just says it was never a determination he could make as opposed to Oogway. It doesn't justify anything Tai Lung did obviously, but no one in the story denies what Tai Lung said of Shifu. That he "filled his head with dreams" and drove him to "train until his bones cracked". That's a pretty clear implication of why he pushed himself to that level.

@@MindForgedManacle And never ever in the history of the world has anyone ever felt guilty for something that wasn't actually their fault, right? At the point of the confrontation only Shifu and Tai Lung really know what happened. So "no one in the story denies what Tai Lung said" is a pretty weak argument. It is in fact just a repetition of "Shifu doesn't deny it", which you yourself already weaken by admitting that Shifu did indeed respond to this claim and, while he didn't outright deny anything, at least explains that to him it was clear that it wasn't his decision and perhaps he thought the same would be clear to Tai Lung. Filling a head with dreams is not necessarily (or even usually) done on purpose (at least not to that extend). If you are sufficiently self-assured and detached from reality (as many young people are), even a small praise can get you dreaming all night long. Pair that with some determination and stubbornness and you can easily get someone to work on their dreams even to their own detriment. You seem to choose to interpret the dialog as though Shifu stood next to him every day like a smith pumping air into the fire, actively inciting Tai Lung to train to be the Dragon Warrior. But that's at the very extreme end of the interpretation spectrum and doesn't really feel like the Shifu we see throughout the rest of the movie. Based on his reactions I find it much more likely that Shifu merely sparked the fire with some praise in Tai Lungs childhood ("Continue training like this and you'll end up Dragon Warrior" or something like that) and continued to express his pride on Tai Lungs training results. To me Shifu seems to be sorry to not have detected the over-the-top determination of Tai Lung earlier and tried to decrease it. That he paid too much attention to the fighting prowess and too little to the cracked / cracking personality behind it. In both cases there is some blame to be put on Shifu, but the important difference is that in my understanding it's merely for social neglegence, whereas you seem to blame him for aggressively, actively and purposefully hurting his adoptive son.

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