How To STOP A Genocide Run In Undertale (As A Monster)

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Kustopia

Kustopia

4 күн бұрын

Now everyone knows how a Genocide Run in Undertale works, but what would happen if YOU were a monster that was caught in one? Well you have to stop it, of course! Easier said than done, I know.
Songs Used:
Undertale - Power Of NEO
Undertale - Ruins
Undertale - Heartache
Undertale - Battle Against A True Hero
Undertale - Snowy
Undertale - Small Shock
Undertale - Home
#undertale #chara #sans

Пікірлер: 687
@yeetman2610gaming
@yeetman2610gaming 3 күн бұрын
1. Become froggit 2. Name yourself shayy 3.profit
@somethingforsenro
@somethingforsenro 2 күн бұрын
defeat the human with big mold
@ctaplliekjiacchuk6478
@ctaplliekjiacchuk6478 2 күн бұрын
Author of guide who tells obvious things that obviously didnt happen:
@SombreroPistola
@SombreroPistola 2 күн бұрын
"Why do i hear Trought the Macro Lens from Undertale Yellow-"
@zeussoulhd2169
@zeussoulhd2169 Күн бұрын
*Macro*
@DigioBooks
@DigioBooks 3 күн бұрын
I like to think the human is just a normal player who’s just flipping confused
@Epicccccccccccccccccccc
@Epicccccccccccccccccccc 3 күн бұрын
One day you try to do a genocide run but Every monster gangs up on you
@ellis-ui9ue
@ellis-ui9ue 3 күн бұрын
@@Epicccccccccccccccccccc "Alright time to try a genocide run!...Why did I get 20 monsters in 1 encounter-"
@FunkyGoofyGoober
@FunkyGoofyGoober 3 күн бұрын
Funny thing would be due to fun values someone would probably just assume they got a rare scenario.
@randomgamer3946
@randomgamer3946 3 күн бұрын
just a normal player who is trying to farm xp like a normal rpg
@flower-hope-galaxy3866
@flower-hope-galaxy3866 3 күн бұрын
Me too
@nehichao1480
@nehichao1480 3 күн бұрын
The Bridge in snowdin isn't actually made out of wood, in one of the Papyrus phone calls he explains that It's actually a rock formation that he's painted over,
@gabrielwilliams9183
@gabrielwilliams9183 3 күн бұрын
Really 🤣🤣🤣
@happyboy07685
@happyboy07685 3 күн бұрын
However, you can still destroy it.
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 3 күн бұрын
Even if breaking that bridge didnt work, there are the bridges near the end of waterfall (undyne the undying's fight area) and near the start of hotland, in fact, you could technically trap the human by breaking both of these bridges after frisk uses a save point.
@swordmaster24681
@swordmaster24681 2 күн бұрын
@@dylanzlol7293 if you trap frisk they are just gonna reset from the beginning and try another way
@alt4388
@alt4388 2 күн бұрын
​@@swordmaster24681undertale's linear nature ensures that there aren't other options
@jibvil
@jibvil 2 күн бұрын
hear me out: Pick the Rock in the Ruins and block the path indefinitely
@tarodo980
@tarodo980 2 күн бұрын
Holy shit new meta
@lavendeereatingreens
@lavendeereatingreens 2 күн бұрын
One problem: Flowey
@chastox
@chastox 2 күн бұрын
oh my gawsh what a good idea bbg
@Arial55555
@Arial55555 2 күн бұрын
@@lavendeereatingreens But Flowey doesn’t start helping the Human until after the player both kills all monsters in the Ruins and kills Toriel. Since Toriel is likely in her home and you won’t be allowing her or the player to cross to the other’s side of the spikes, Flowey will never step in to solve the puzzle. However, if Flowey indeed knows the world like a book like how regular players do, he would definitely notice a rock going off-script when in all other timelines he’s played before, the rock can never refuse to be pushed. Of course, if we allow for this, that implies that Flowey has player-level freedom much like we the rock and Frisk the genocide player do. This requires us to bend the meta of the challenge to account for any and all possible unscripted actions Flowey could perform upon realizing one (or more) of his world’s characters aren’t following the script he’s memorized- which is effectively what happens in all other runs of the game anyways, but now there’s two unpredictable elements for him to play with.
@lavendeereatingreens
@lavendeereatingreens Күн бұрын
@@Arial55555 Ooof good point, I missed that lol
@aboogala4678
@aboogala4678 3 күн бұрын
Wait, ANY non-boss ruins monster? *insert Standing Here meme as I block a door as Nasptablook*
@chadichannel
@chadichannel 3 күн бұрын
Napstablook is a mini-BOSS not fully a boss but it has boss in the name-
@yourmomxdlmao
@yourmomxdlmao 3 күн бұрын
napsta is a mini-boss, my thought was a amalgamate although that'll probably mean your suffering
@itimmycox
@itimmycox 3 күн бұрын
Maybe if miniboss doesnt count as regular monster but if it does you still lose, because there q chance that flowey will use magic to kill you
@realawesomeos
@realawesomeos 3 күн бұрын
if i can be a ghost then yeah ill just use sans strat of pissing them off
@Seawsome
@Seawsome 2 күн бұрын
Wait is Flowey a boss monster because they don't have a soul.
@NightGhosttYT
@NightGhosttYT 2 күн бұрын
*Lv 20 Dust Froggit blocks the way!*
@pohbob
@pohbob 2 күн бұрын
This is the best one 💀
@Koiishi_Komeiji
@Koiishi_Komeiji 2 күн бұрын
So instead of human having to kill 100+ monsters, they just have to kill one? Sounds like a win.
@adjaratougnegnebegna3701
@adjaratougnegnebegna3701 2 күн бұрын
This is such à semi good idea i included this is my master plan
@Tyron-sd9hg
@Tyron-sd9hg 3 күн бұрын
1. Flee ruins alone 2. Grab as many sugary items as possible. 3. Confront them right before sans. 4. “I’ve decided it’s not gonna be your turn. Ever.” 5. Wait for the human to get bored and give up, use items deliberately to stay awake.
@hi03835
@hi03835 3 күн бұрын
You’re really underestimating how much people are willing to wait for something to happen.
@seandorama5932
@seandorama5932 3 күн бұрын
@@hi03835would players actually wait for 24 hours?
@deesnyder8201
@deesnyder8201 3 күн бұрын
@@seandorama5932 Someone out there would do it.
@Ezoc
@Ezoc 3 күн бұрын
@@deesnyder8201 tbh i'd wait like 48 hours at least. not that i've done the geno run since i don't have the heart to do it
@Mocklate
@Mocklate 2 күн бұрын
You don't have Sans' teleportation ability so they'll just move the box in front of your face
@orangeaurora
@orangeaurora 3 күн бұрын
-be whimsun -be so shy and unassuming that i can sneak through the underground to new home -steal the 6 human souls -human stands no chance since the human souls would have no reason to reject you like they did w flowey. asgore is now also unable to end humanity -cross the barrier -unassume your way to a hospital -absorb the soul of a recently deceased human -7 human souls -destroy the barrier -win
@seandorama5932
@seandorama5932 3 күн бұрын
1 problem. Asgore could see you trying to steal the souls and kill you
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 2 күн бұрын
How would you get asgore to let you take the souls if he wont even show them to his own son (its very likely that flowey tried to reveal his identity in order to get the souls)? And how would you get the souls to appear since flowey couldnt get them to show up either?
@RTOmega
@RTOmega 2 күн бұрын
1- Go immediately to Flowey, say you are a time traveler and a human that will kill him just fell down. 2- Tell him they will pose as Chara while actually they aren't, as they will trick him until they get to asgore. 3- Say random stuff only flowey will know to convince him and hopefully not die (this is the hard part). 4- With flowey, go immediately to Papyrus, also tell him you come from another timeline and convince only he could save the univere, (shouldn't be hard.) 5- Go to Alphys and tell her you are from the future and a demon posed as Chara the princess is going on killing everyone in the Ruins and everyone should evacuate. Tell her to call Asgore and Undyne and send Mettatron to stop the human for a while. 6- While the unsavable Toriel and robot sacrifice block the human, have everyone evacuate. 7- sans will probably come to you between these, tell him a few of his time traveler jig and also say you are here to warn everyone and him spesifically. You know he will lose to the demon and it is better to just let the demon think they won. 8- Convince Asgore to let Flowey use the 6 souls saying that is the only way to stop the demon. (you can add the demon is posing as his diseased child and killed his wife to enrage him.) 9- Have Flowey become Omega Flowey and tell him to just pass the barrier and grab the first human soul he sees, though this might antagonise some monsters toward you, tell them only 7 souls can stop the demon and add flowey should only take the soul of a diseased or elderly person etc. (This is also the hard part.) 10- Have flowey take a soul, come back, become God of Hyperdeath and break the barrier. Bonus- You can have Asriel pmuch destroy the human until they give up as they have inf stats and this isn't pacifist meaning ASriel won't sulk and cry because they think the human is Chara. Meanwhile, just go to the surface. You can try to take souls for yourself but this option is really risky. XD
@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439
@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 2 күн бұрын
​@@RTOmega Yeah, If you can convince Flowey, human is easily fucked up. He would softlock their asses in Ruins.
@Rachell_AT
@Rachell_AT 2 күн бұрын
​@@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439I mean, he already soflock u in the pacifist route with his vines so he easily could do the same thing in the genocide route lol
@DaCadtiel_Kong
@DaCadtiel_Kong 3 күн бұрын
Get asgore to destroy the fight button instead of the mercy button
@Bedrock367
@Bedrock367 3 күн бұрын
AYO THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY WORK
@RalseiTheGoat
@RalseiTheGoat 3 күн бұрын
Flowey:
@HaphazardousSpace
@HaphazardousSpace 3 күн бұрын
The hard part is convincing Asgore. Then, whether he breaks the FIGHT button or uses the simpler solution of Absorbing the SOULs, the Human is dead. Absorbing the SOULs makes their death permanent so you'd prefer he does that. It also makes the battle much simpler.
@crazyguy5000
@crazyguy5000 3 күн бұрын
@@HaphazardousSpace I got a much better idea, convince Asgore to destroy the fight button AND the mercy button, so the human cant fight or flee, and then kill the human over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again
@NatetheNintendofan
@NatetheNintendofan 3 күн бұрын
​@@crazyguy5000Until they give up and then they give up on the run
@evilness3404
@evilness3404 3 күн бұрын
Flowey is really the biggest threat here. As he helps the human through puzzles. Do not engage him if possible, do not try to fight the human or otherwise convince them you are a threat in any capacity. Flowey won't interfere with the Human's murder spree unless you give him a reason to do so. Speeding off ASAP out of the ruins and into Snowdin may help with this as he plans to just stick with the human, giving you free reign to enact your plan as long as you are ahead. Convincing Alphys to fully close Hotland unlike in the game where she leaves it open due to Muffet should also help buy you time to convince Asgore. Making the heroic monsters in your group aware of the human's ability to save and load will also hopefully convince them not to engage. You could also abuse your Meta knowledge and set up a shop or something right in front of a major pathway but that seems a bit desperate so i wouldn't attempt it unless all else fails. Alerting Alphys/Asgore of your predicament (you being transported to a video game as an explanation for your knowledge and incessant desire to succeed) may give them an existential crisis but its worth it if you can save everyone. The general plan: Try to evacuate the ruins, this is the hardest step, Toriel may make it difficult and if she does, just leave. Tell the royal guards of the human's oncoming violence and try to get them to call everyone in Snowdin to Snowdin Town and later to whatever evacuation spot they use in the real game. Do the same in Waterfall, attempt to convince Undyne to not engage directly with the human, make her aware of their reset powers and instead tell her to call Asgore to absorb the souls and tell Alphys to begin Hotland/New-Home evacuation, this will fail and Undyne will go fight anyways but at least you tried. If evacuations are underway, convince Alphys to fully lockdown Hotland regardless of the Spiders not leaving, if she locks it down properly anyways theres no way they'll get hurt regardless. Go yell at Asgore, use your knowledge that you have as someone who played Undertale to weaponize his insecurities against him. Tell him that the human killed Toriel, is ruthless, remind him of the save/load ability (he canonically already knows about it) and how absorbing the souls is the only way to prevent them from loading. Hope that Asgore listens and/or the plan so far has ruined the ability for the human to complete the genocide route. If you do convince Asgore, make sure to also warn him of the thieving flower who may want to steal the souls for himself. Tell Asgore about the human souls still being conscious and how they may rebel, any info you can give him is good info. Try pleading with the dead 6 human souls if it goes south, tell them the 7th's desire to murder could literally lead to the world's destruction. You may not have saved everyone, but there's no way the humans getting to level 20 now - meaning you win off the rules of the challenge. You did your best.
@seandorama5932
@seandorama5932 3 күн бұрын
This seems pretty solid. I’d still be worried about Flowey though since technically you are stopping the human from completing their genocide so he would have an incentive to kill you if he finds you out
@evilness3404
@evilness3404 3 күн бұрын
@seandorama5932 yea the main goal is for him to never find out or to be too difficult to hunt you down, preferably, which means you need to race out of the ruins and put all of your plans into place quickly while he's busy stalking Frisk. Might be worth just leaving the ruins monsters behind (as terrible as that is) to make sure he doesn't investigate anything.
@BetterCallPapyrus
@BetterCallPapyrus 2 күн бұрын
yeah flowey will 100% make bridges and help them across gaps and puzzles, up until sans. and by that point its too late. like i said this dude didn't think this through at all this is a half baked attempt.
@seandorama5932
@seandorama5932 2 күн бұрын
@@evilness3404 the only question is what monster to take form as that’s fast enough…
@butthole5614
@butthole5614 2 күн бұрын
So just recreate undertale: final run?
@pohbob
@pohbob 2 күн бұрын
- Choose whimsun for extra stealth - Sneak out of the ruins and avoid suspicious plants - Tell sans to shortcut you past asgore and use your knowledge to explain the human is a murderous time traveller. Tell him the secret codeword if needed - Get to the human souls - Tell them whats happening so they dont revolt against you - Absorb the souls and go back to kill frisk (preferably in a place where nobody will see) - Cross the barrier and steal a soul from a hospital and break the barrier (frisks soul would revolt against you probably) - Assuming you did it fast enough, alphys didn't evacuate the monsters and thus, nobody will know what happened. The ruins door is locked so nobody will know about what happened there. *Stealth ending unlocked*
@jennyderr1426
@jennyderr1426 2 күн бұрын
Warn them "The path of genocide is tedeus and boring. Ultimately you are depriving yourself fun."
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 2 күн бұрын
That wouldnt stop anybody, through.
@DarianTrinity
@DarianTrinity 2 күн бұрын
"I know grinding is tedious, but I have to see what happens at the end. I know something good happens"
@danielle5160
@danielle5160 2 күн бұрын
Sure, that might convince them on their first playthrough with you in it, but eventually they'll come back and won't be convinced again
@jennyderr1426
@jennyderr1426 2 күн бұрын
@@dylanzlol7293 unless i do it differently ever time interspersed with lines like" I'm alive in here" and "don't end up like me.". then it becomes ominous.
@jennyderr1426
@jennyderr1426 2 күн бұрын
@@DarianTrinity "you will not get access to the minigames and side quests..."
@Osmicombo
@Osmicombo 2 күн бұрын
my dumbass was thinking "wait for the human to save in the core, blow the core the fuck up." But this works so much better.
@unrellated
@unrellated 3 күн бұрын
My strategy is to just straight up hide from the human. Cant exhaust the kill counter if they can't find me.
@wow-roblox8370
@wow-roblox8370 3 күн бұрын
I don’t know if you would be counted in the kill counter, as you can still just flee from encounters leaving some monsters alive as long as you hit that kill counter, so this strategy won’t work.
@HaphazardousSpace
@HaphazardousSpace 3 күн бұрын
@@wow-roblox8370 You can also spare them btw. You can very well do a run where you always spare Vulkins and Whimsalot for example and exhaust the kill counter with other monsters, works fine.
@user-by1xd9sl7u
@user-by1xd9sl7u 2 күн бұрын
that wouldn't work. the reason the last few kills take so long is because the last few monsters are hiding and you're "looking for them" the human would still find you eventually
@BetterCallPapyrus
@BetterCallPapyrus 2 күн бұрын
now see THATS a valid strategy
@BetterCallPapyrus
@BetterCallPapyrus 2 күн бұрын
play keep away from them like raikou or entei and every time they enter a location stealth your way to another.
@Arial55555
@Arial55555 2 күн бұрын
Assuming they are a monster, I turn into the rock in the ruins that sasses back upon trying to be pushed, and refuse to move onto the button- or I just hide from Frisk, if I'm that scared. The player cannot move me by game mechanics like they can to the other two rocks, and Flowey doesn't start depressing puzzle switches with vines until after he's fully convinced Frisk is Chara after the player has fully genocided the ruins- which the player cannot do without getting past my puzzle to kill Toriel- nor can Toriel reach the player to be harmed if I am simultaneously blocking her from crossing the room as well. Therefore, the player is stopped by an impassable spike puzzle, which only I, rock-guy, can control.
@elitheratman3730
@elitheratman3730 Күн бұрын
Genius
@HedgieMaster05
@HedgieMaster05 2 күн бұрын
Wait technically if you convince EVERY SINGLE MONSTER in the Underground to just participate in a giant market nobody CAN die because you can’t kill shopkeepers. And since EVERYONE is a shopkeeper the human is denied all EXP. Which is hilarious to me.
@aethous9163
@aethous9163 Күн бұрын
I can imagine the shop stand 30 meters wide with every single Monster in it. And everyone just offers you the first thing that they found while doing this plan (Imagine Undyne selling her spears, or Alphys selling her noodles or anime)
@internetlurker1850
@internetlurker1850 Күн бұрын
Genocide beaten via the power of CAPITALISM
@steveminecraft5887
@steveminecraft5887 Күн бұрын
Gotta buy every single item they own so they aren't shop keepers anymore
@seidenada2
@seidenada2 Күн бұрын
​@@steveminecraft5887how you will get money if no have monsters for kill?
@Pokedude12-29
@Pokedude12-29 22 сағат бұрын
@@steveminecraft5887 Even if you buy everything out, they're still manning the shops so there's still no fight menu.
@user-ql3cw5et5v
@user-ql3cw5et5v 3 күн бұрын
I would love to see this in a game. Playing as the human and seeing the monster failing to stop you multiple times forcing you to confrotate them at the end.
@metal_pipe9764
@metal_pipe9764 2 күн бұрын
I'd do a pacifist run
@sneakysileny
@sneakysileny 2 күн бұрын
So here is the plan: - Be a froggit (preferably the one you encounter first) - Immediatly rush to Ruins enterance following Toriel - Kill Flowey after he gets knocked away by Toriel, he would still be hurt - Go to the rock puzzle and carry the rocks across the puzzle by jumping over the spikes - Boom, human stuck with no Flowey to help
@ale-xsantos1078
@ale-xsantos1078 Күн бұрын
You probably would need to make sure Toriel doesnt return to aid the human and ghost boi wont show up later there to offer help, but other than that solid plan
@sneakysileny
@sneakysileny Күн бұрын
@@ale-xsantos1078 I feel like Blooky wouldn't try to help, as for Toriel not really sure what to do actually lmao
@purogamingyt2327
@purogamingyt2327 3 күн бұрын
you need to make an AU version of this. For example what if it were underswap or if you were a monster that wasnt from the ruins
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 2 күн бұрын
Undertale yellow edition?
@JustAThought1997
@JustAThought1997 2 күн бұрын
Ways to further hinder the human: Set up traps at the save points Have shopkeepers that flee also bring their wares (no food for the human) Have gerson/burgerpants not sell stuff ☠️ Instead of confronting the human directly, have undyne constantly rain down spears Leave enormous notes (so that if clicked on the human will have to spend hours clicking Z and X) Every so often have sans grab the human and “shortcut” them into the ruins, if possible How to stop the human: Use the DT extractor to steal their DT Get rid of the golden flowers that negate fall dmg for some reason (if too late to get rid of the ones in the ruins, get rid of the ones in the waterfall dump) Have all the amalgamates attack at once Have mettaton confront the human at waterfall, or earlier (don’t let him turn around) Make it so EVERY monster evacuates (no EXP, no genocide) Have alphys turn on ALL the lasers in hotlands (even if a certain spider refuses to leave)
@Nrach00
@Nrach00 3 күн бұрын
Considering the game still works as the game, I'd just stand in front of the first door at the beggining of the underground as a Npc. The human wouldn't be able to kill me and I wouldn't have to even move.
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 2 күн бұрын
Wouldnt toriel push you away if you're talking about the very first doors?
@Astra100
@Astra100 2 күн бұрын
@@dylanzlol7293I think they’re talking about the door to the right when you first fall, not the one Toriel comes from.
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 2 күн бұрын
@@Astra100 but toriel was going there when the human met flowey, she would've gone through and see the human standing there next to a monster.
@Nrach00
@Nrach00 2 күн бұрын
@dylanzlol7293 I didn't thought about that Xd. I could argue that, if the human couldn't get past the first room, they wouldn't be able to trigger the event that makes toriel come in first place, but that'd be way too plot convenient, so I guess it's not a possibility.
@TheRealUltimare
@TheRealUltimare 2 күн бұрын
@@Nrach00 no your plan still works, just don't stand in the way of the door. If the human doesn't kill you, then they failed the genocide run because they didn't kill every monster
@mazthehe
@mazthehe 3 күн бұрын
My plan is flowey the ONLY monster to ever to surround the soul completely with attacks
@hi03835
@hi03835 3 күн бұрын
He probably won’t comply with you.
@chadichannel
@chadichannel 3 күн бұрын
He deals 2 damage every hit and then suddenly it's the human's turn lol
@south452
@south452 3 күн бұрын
Flowey isn’t a monster. Try again ;)
@Tsunamicat108
@Tsunamicat108 3 күн бұрын
Sans also has his get dunked on attack, but that’s a special case because it’s a betrayal kill.
@MomazosDoritos
@MomazosDoritos 3 күн бұрын
​@@chadichannel 2 x 16= 32
@MemoricsIsReal
@MemoricsIsReal 3 күн бұрын
My plan is to somehow get asriel to absorb every soul and then he cannot lose since it's a "genocide route". the only reason he ever lost is because of pacifism.
@BetterCallPapyrus
@BetterCallPapyrus 2 күн бұрын
flowey won't listen to you as he helps the player until san is beaten/smh and by that point its too late as he and asgore never talked, so the souls are off the table.
@RTOmega
@RTOmega 2 күн бұрын
@@BetterCallPapyrus best you can do is try to convince flowey that "The Human that fell down is actually a demon posing as their deceased sibling and you are from the future and know they will use him." XD
@minestar2247
@minestar2247 2 күн бұрын
I feel like if you get Photoshop flowey he's still gonna lose
@lightningfan21
@lightningfan21 3 күн бұрын
me as a whimsun casually saving the universe
@MDGOLD
@MDGOLD 3 күн бұрын
I be whimsun as well
@Iemonlemon
@Iemonlemon 2 күн бұрын
LMAOO SAME
@tarodo980
@tarodo980 2 күн бұрын
Whimsical would be the best option as you get flight + phasing
@itimmycox
@itimmycox 3 күн бұрын
1: Become Whinsum 2: Warn Toriel and convince her to open the gate for you 3: Flies to Hotland and go to Alphys lab 4: Told her about a killer human arrive at the Ruins 5: Alphys told the monster to evacuate 6: Muffet will refuse to evacuate 7: Told Alphys to buy Muffet's pricy donut first 8: Alphys buy the expensive donut 9: Muffet happy and convinced to evacuate 10: The hotland will be on a full lockdown and Alphys will activate all of the trap at Hotland 11: Alphys command Mettaton to evacuate all of the monster Mettaton hire at the core 12: Alphys closed the gate at the Mettaton resort so the human can't get to the Core You did it!!!!! Yeay you did it!
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 2 күн бұрын
1. How will you be able to convince toriel? 2. The cameras are on snowdin and waterfall, not the ruins. She would think you're insane or pulling a weird prank if she has no reason to believe that a genocidal human is coming through. 3. Muffet refused to leave because she says that "a spider NEVER leaves her web~", so paying her wouldnt make her want to evacuate, she's simply too stubborn. 4. There's the elevator next to the mtt resort which leads to the capital, and there might be a way to reach the roofs in the area where the bratty and catty shop is located. Either way, there's no clear-cut way for you to stop the human, and flowey could help the human through if you could stop the human on their tracks. Its not easy to stop the human
@tarodo980
@tarodo980 2 күн бұрын
This might be the best plan yet whinsum op
@itimmycox
@itimmycox 2 күн бұрын
@@dylanzlol7293 Oh easy, 1: sneak to the Toriel basement and flee 2: Befriended a monster (I recommend ice cap they cool) 3: Then you and your newfound friend watch the human kill a monster 4: Report to Royal guard especially Undyne 5: The snowdin people will evacuate to the hotland 6: Explode the Hotland gate (If you don't have much time i think Undyne will sacrifice herself to buy time) You did it! Oh wait Flowey help the human? too bad Undyne, Alphys, You, and all of the Monster wil convince Asgore to absorb the Human souls and if Alphys tell everything about the Amalgamate (Wich she did in the genocide route) tell Alphys to command the Amalgamate to fight the human and help Asgore
@pohbob
@pohbob 2 күн бұрын
Step 13: Absorb the human souls, kill frisk to absorb theirs, destroy the barrier and yay freedom!!
@itimmycox
@itimmycox 2 күн бұрын
@@pohbob I can't imagine wimshun is the one that free the monster race
@josecuevas5009
@josecuevas5009 3 күн бұрын
*the ruins exit is destroyed* Flowey: hey I know another way for you to get out through the ruins just head to the far end of the ruins *the room with the three levers and pulls the third one and goes through the Undertale yellow dark ruins and more monsters down there are dead too by the human* (I know Undertale yellow is not canon but it’s just what I think will have if the ruins exit is destroyed)
@Bongetta
@Bongetta 3 күн бұрын
The goal is to just STOP them from doing the genocide route right??? As in keeping the world from getting erased, so all ya gotta do is successfully lead a few monsters outside of the ruins so that the human can never reach the required exp amount to complete the genocide reqs and basically soft lock them onto a neutral route. Since you'd be in a time loop you wouldn't have to worry about doing it over and over again since you'd just automatically do it. While the humans busy wondering why tf genocide won't trigger I'll be in hotland or smth simping for Muffet.
@omereltayeb7711
@omereltayeb7711 2 күн бұрын
Nah bor got that iq fr💀
@Bongetta
@Bongetta 2 күн бұрын
@@omereltayeb7711 Nah I'd probably get killed by Muffet unless I spawned in with a BAG. You need that rich boy rizz to get her.
@omereltayeb7711
@omereltayeb7711 2 күн бұрын
@@Bongetta 😂 nah my guy you planed this shit ahead didnt ya
@Bongetta
@Bongetta 2 күн бұрын
@@omereltayeb7711 I'd either succeed or die knowing I tried.
@kitler4650
@kitler4650 2 күн бұрын
My plan would be: 1.Find Flowey 2.Bash some common sense into him and make him realize that he will be killed at the end too so he needs to do something 3.Remind him to not toy with the human and to JUST GO FOR A KILL to not risk souls rebelling 4.Tell him where the souls are so he can stand a chance 5.Hope he doesn’t fuck that up
@gabrielmbx9253
@gabrielmbx9253 2 күн бұрын
The ploblem is the frist step Find flowey, becuase flowey no peemit any mounster see him and probably you no ganna fin you or flowey gonna kill you becuse you see him
@kitler4650
@kitler4650 2 күн бұрын
@@gabrielmbx9253 1.If I don’t know I’d try to get to Papyrus since he might know 2.If I see him trying to attack me when I’d find him I’d try to dodge his attacks and try to say “Asriel I know where the souls are”, that would serve a few purposes: Firstly that would throw him off as I address him by his name cause an ordinary monster shouldn’t be aware of this, secondly that would make him realize that I am not some random monster, and lastly he’d have an insensitive to not kill me to get to the souls Then I could explain the whole situation to him As a bonus he can also remember resets so if he fucks up he could just try to kill the human to rewind time and try again
@MalmartheReckoning
@MalmartheReckoning 3 күн бұрын
Yeah, I feel like among all of this, Flowey is the biggest problem one might face up to new home.
@sigmaman3632
@sigmaman3632 2 күн бұрын
I am waiting to watch ,,can you stop undertale yellow genocide?”
@Fatumity
@Fatumity 3 күн бұрын
1. become Froggit 2. become Shaay with every speed run trick and glitch in existence 3. make sans lick an ice cream and stall the human without battling forever, and if he sleeps you can take shifts with him interchangeablely so the human can never break free
@l-r9000
@l-r9000 3 күн бұрын
My idea is to use Napstablook as a barrier. In the game he only lowered his health to make the human happy (if you fight him) and then he leaves the battle. But he could very well just stay in the battle forever, pretty much like when sans stopped atacking, but this time it would work because napstablook will never die to any physical attack, and the human doesn't know how to use magic. We can use napstablook to stall the human forever while you and the rest of the monsters think about a perfect plan to permanently stop the human, we cant just let poor napstablook just stall forever after all
@KaijuFan3000
@KaijuFan3000 3 күн бұрын
and get the mad mew mew
@mazthehe
@mazthehe 3 күн бұрын
Asgore can quit his bullshit and kill you too
@mazthehe
@mazthehe 3 күн бұрын
@@KaijuFan3000broke so edventualy betrayal is eminent
@mazthehe
@mazthehe 3 күн бұрын
Mad dummy tell him there’s some trouble for his dummy pal (he accused you of what you did to them do he does like them as well they are cousins so perfect duo unkillable maybe even the almagamates just immortal opinions glore
@EEE.654
@EEE.654 3 күн бұрын
people always talk about sans attempting to stall you in battle forever but they never talk about how mad dummy did that first, and they would've succeeded too if blooky didn't cry on them
@TTBsanctus
@TTBsanctus 3 күн бұрын
😨 ( also you can trap the human in your attack or in the black box and then it’ll be easy. )
@thealientree3821
@thealientree3821 3 күн бұрын
Just don't fall asleep.
@abxyabxy281
@abxyabxy281 3 күн бұрын
Ah, yes. u n d e r t a l e l o g i c
@CGH404
@CGH404 Күн бұрын
1. Spawn in as Froggit 2. Kill everyone before the human could 3. Become lvl 19 4. Wait for human in judgment hall 5. *insert dusttale music*
@kimanhbui4534
@kimanhbui4534 Күн бұрын
DustFrog. Sorry, I can't find/think a better name.
@thatdaybeforetomorrow2290
@thatdaybeforetomorrow2290 2 күн бұрын
I feel like the best solution is to become a fast monster and book it straight to Sans. Sans is capable of going anywhere by walking the wrong direction and could very likely create enough time to rally thousands of monsters to your cause by proxy of just being able to go anywhere in seconds. He'd also be the best person to tell about the human because he would completely believe you if you told him something nobody should know, like his secret phrase for time travelers. He may be skeptical, but if he is, all you have to do is tell him to spy on the human for a couple minutes. Once he sees the human killing people, he would be on your side. It will also help that you, from his perspective, know how the "game" plays out and would likely be able to plan well enough to stop it as a result, which might stop him from feeling like nothing matters and motivate him. With Sans, you could go to any of the other boss monsters and get them to NOT fight the human under ANY circumstances, as well as get Asgore to either use the souls himself or give them to Undyne because Undyne is by far the most determined monster in the underground. Alternatively you could also convince the amalgamates to help, since the human is completely incapable of harming all but one of them. That alone should be enough to softlock the human. Finally, there's the option of box-form Mettaton, who apparently has the max integer value as his defense stat. Appeal to him by telling him the human won't just stop at monsters and WILL eradicate humanity too, as well as everything else. Convince him by telling him something only an outside force would know, and hopefully he will be convinced enough to stay in his box-form and impede the human's progress indefinitely.
@dolfy-tube
@dolfy-tube 3 күн бұрын
Heres my plan, if I can get to Asgore, and convince him to either A run the ones with the human, of B have him use the souls either himself, or giving them to Flowey, because the only reason the Human beat Omega Flowey is because the souls turned on him, but they would not help Frisk on a genocide run.
@michaeldoerrler2363
@michaeldoerrler2363 3 күн бұрын
I could see the souls helping frisk on the evil route in any battle where they were involved. It's possible some or all of the souls were also evil or are vengeful/hate monsters now that they're dead. I imagine the way to beat omega ashore if it was an actual fight in the game is the same as omega flowy. Using act to manipulate and deceive instead of persuade kindly.
@MoRiSeR_
@MoRiSeR_ 3 күн бұрын
@@michaeldoerrler2363The humans could also use save files. I doubt they died against their own will. They gave up. And lost their DT because of it.
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 2 күн бұрын
Flowey would backstab you and become god and control both humanity and monsterkind if you gave him the souls, which isnt an actual solution imo. Besides, asgore isnt going to give the souls to flowey since flowey says that he couldnt get him to show the souls
@dolfy-tube
@dolfy-tube 2 күн бұрын
@@dylanzlol7293 fair, but the goal was to stop the humans genocide, never said anything about goofy flowers
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 2 күн бұрын
@@dolfy-tube sure, but the title says "how to stop *A* genocide run in undertale", therefore, i believe that the win conditions is to prevent any genocide of any kind from happening at all, so even if you can stop the human from commiting genocide, i'd consider it a failure if you had to resort to getting someone else to kill everyone instead.
@fionabuchanan7787
@fionabuchanan7787 2 күн бұрын
I think a good solution would just be to stall Toriel from getting to the human. Since Flowey will try to kill the human and Toriel won’t stop him because you stall her, so he kills the human, likely takes their soul and then saves over them with their own determination.
@ale-xsantos1078
@ale-xsantos1078 Күн бұрын
Fair point, but Flowey with a human soul could be as bad as the evil human if not worse (see Omega Flowey)
@Xanderidkwhattoputnext
@Xanderidkwhattoputnext 2 күн бұрын
this video was AWESOME and a Extremely underrated video BUT STILL AWESOME great job on making this vid i hope you post some more bangers like this one
@Solesteam
@Solesteam 2 күн бұрын
Be a whimsum, steel your nerves so your not as weak (they're only as weak as they are because they're so terrified and skittish, a brave whimsum that wanted Frisk dead would at least be strong as a moldsmal or froggit... Which isn't much, but you should be able to tank a lv 1 attack if you're caught off guard and lower your enemies morale for a few seconds as they see the weakest enemy avoid peril, speaking of fleeing, yeah, they can flee on their own, a rarely seen feat that I'm unsure if other monsters are capable of considering when a Froggit tries to fee, they just produce the flavor text from Chara saying "Froggit is trying to get away"
@Sansthestarsmashcrusader
@Sansthestarsmashcrusader Күн бұрын
Just cut the golden flowers that soften the fall and move rocks to be there, the human will just fall to death
@enchantedgoldenapple3290
@enchantedgoldenapple3290 2 күн бұрын
2 notes: 1. the toriel plan can be circumvented by just, lying to her, the reason she tried to block the exist in the first place can be used as a lie to convince her that "hey a human just fell down, better destroy the exist so that they don't get hurt outside" 2. a plan I haven't seen is asking fo help from napstablook, the only ways to get rid of him is to either be nice to him and spare him (something a genocider would never do) or beating him and him leaving out of akwardness (nothing a little warning can't fix)
@gremlin2239
@gremlin2239 2 күн бұрын
Quickest, lightest solution: assassinate Muffet. She won't stop the Hotland lockdown, and Alphys will successfully softlock the human every time.
@benjosalognon844
@benjosalognon844 2 күн бұрын
Everything is always on point. Can't get enough!
@Nubert12
@Nubert12 Күн бұрын
1. Break the Toby Fox door (its literally made of wood) 2. Steal the Book while the dog is sleeping 3. Human dies instantly
@sosuke_aizan4429
@sosuke_aizan4429 22 сағат бұрын
-become one of the final enemies nearing end -rush down to true laboratory while killing everyone -take alphys hostage and use her to lead undyne to stop dt extractor to remove dt -ez levels - go to snowdin to tell frisk your nefarious plans -block of bridge to waterfall (stalls frisk for a bit) -kill endless monsters since alphys died too fast to warn monster of evacuation - block off exit in waterfall when ur done -finish rest in hotland -you should be strong enough for asgore but if ur unsure u can give urself dt from the extractor to solo easily -absorb souls -erase frisk from timeline
@Cone_Man_Gaming
@Cone_Man_Gaming 3 күн бұрын
Imagine this was an actual mod.
@chuckidalucki1967
@chuckidalucki1967 2 күн бұрын
Honestly, it be worth it if i could be a froggit, immediately go to Flowey and reverse trauma dump him by painstakingly telling him his own tragic backstory just to see him freak the hell out as to why this one Froggit knows everything there is to know about this world.
@metal_pipe9764
@metal_pipe9764 2 күн бұрын
Even funnier if it's a temmie
@SansINess53
@SansINess53 3 күн бұрын
If all fails and the human reachs LV 20 I'll intrupt the cutscene between chara and the human and be the funny sans skeleton, and do that dunking move that literally oneshots the human.
@potatofarmer9488
@potatofarmer9488 3 күн бұрын
You can't be sans.
@Midtier_fortune
@Midtier_fortune 3 күн бұрын
"Don't fuck with undertale fans, we haven't played the game" ahh comment
@potatofarmer9488
@potatofarmer9488 3 күн бұрын
ALSO, if the human is LV 20 sans is dead A L S O, thats a betrayal kill A L S O, it doesn't one shot
@BetterCallPapyrus
@BetterCallPapyrus 2 күн бұрын
sans is a "boss" monster, you can be anything under minibosses so anything that isn't a major character like sans or minor character like napstablook. ie you got to pick a grunt dude. like for me lesser dog as they are plentiful or temmy as they can warp their bodies which means i am better at hiding.
@GoodOuterdust69
@GoodOuterdust69 2 күн бұрын
sans isn't actually a boss monster, he's just a boss, if he was his soul would have lasted longer and we would have heard it shatter instead of him dusting away
@Zedryx69
@Zedryx69 3 күн бұрын
I’m going to become fallen down while Alphys is doing the amalgamate experiments, become one of them, and eventually leave the true lab to steal the SOULs from Asgore and use my own save.
@chickennuggetman2593
@chickennuggetman2593 2 күн бұрын
Sounds excruciating.
@Hasan-sj4ke
@Hasan-sj4ke 2 күн бұрын
You don't need to be fallen down if you could convince alphys to experiment on you. Just don't come into contact with others they would probably jeopardize the plan
@FlamingArrow443
@FlamingArrow443 2 күн бұрын
Simple, every time the human kills a monster, join the battle and fill every corner of the screen with bullets until they die and if they keep attacking, repeat this until they spare the monster
@ChenStefan1
@ChenStefan1 3 күн бұрын
very helpful!
@BetterCallPapyrus
@BetterCallPapyrus 2 күн бұрын
not really they ignored flowey, who helps the human, and ignored several things like asgore never showing flowey the souls who had the best in with asriels memories and all, or the fact toriel would probably kill all the monster if she thought they were a threat, the fact paps wouldn't destroy the rock face or activate the bridge as he didn't even do it on genocide normally. they ignored ALOT of stuff.
@Solesteam
@Solesteam 2 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="150">2:30</a> Step 1 is run to the nearest store and try snd steal a video camera or some way of collecting evidence of a murder. Step 2 is presenting said evidence to Toriel Step 3 is destroying the entrance to the ruins as soon as possible. Step 4 get other monsters together to work on a way to make a human inaccessible way to exit the ruins Step 5 evacuate Step 6 Have papyrus take down that darned bridge in-case Frisk clears the rubble. Extra note: Keep an eye out for suspicious plantlife, if spotted act natural, he cannot know who you truly are or you're doomed. Extra note 2: If you have the time, try and find a way to attain a stable amount of determination like Undyne and try and figure out how to use it to retain memories to make sure you have a different trap every timeline just incase.
@tarodo980
@tarodo980 2 күн бұрын
By that time Toriel would be dead it would take too long
@themaximusyang8645
@themaximusyang8645 2 күн бұрын
I don't think that there's video cameras in the runs.
@Solesteam
@Solesteam Күн бұрын
@@themaximusyang8645 I mean, surely a single spider could have snuggled in a polaroid or something to at least take a photo... Edit: Spiders can't survive snowdin's cold so maybe Nabstablook?
@aureliamastergoomba1278
@aureliamastergoomba1278 2 күн бұрын
There is one unfortunate problem with the permanent “solution”: Flowey is helping Frisk out during Genocide since he thinks Frisk is Chara, during Genocide he automatically disabled some puzzles for you. And since Flowey’s pretty dangerous already and has already killed the others before, doesn’t matter how many you have, he knows how everyone fights, so he’ll most likely come out on top. The only way to stop Frisk’s or the Player’s Genocide, is to convince Flowey to help you.
@shemidreamer8701
@shemidreamer8701 2 күн бұрын
I'll convince alphys to let out the amalgamates to attack them. Not only are the amalgamates said to be invincible, they have determination, so they'll remember the resets
@mnwary
@mnwary 2 күн бұрын
it's really cool to see how people come up with different solutions, each supported by different aspects in game. love to see people sharing the same passion here. for the question, i wonder if preventing the human from encountering toriel or evacuating snowdrake would work, since the game requires facing and killing the area boss, and snowdrake is also one of the monsters who are required to kill... i also love the idea of telling sans his triple secret codeword and explaining everything, as said by someone here. communication with other characters is very likely the key so that sounds cool.
@MaxmaPikachu
@MaxmaPikachu 3 күн бұрын
step one, don't let them fight papyrus
@Nubert12
@Nubert12 Күн бұрын
1. Distract Toriel 2. Flowey kills the player Simple but quite unbreakable
@metal_pipe9764
@metal_pipe9764 2 күн бұрын
I can honestly think of so many solutions that you could probably make an entire second video on this
@RTOmega
@RTOmega 2 күн бұрын
1- Go immediately to Flowey, say you are a time traveler and a human that will kill him just fell down. 2- Tell him they will pose as Chara while actually they aren't, as they will trick him until they get to asgore. 3- Say random stuff only flowey will know to convince him and hopefully not die (this is the hard part). 4- With flowey, go immediately to Papyrus, also tell him you come from another timeline and convince only he could save the univere, (shouldn't be hard.) 5- Go to Alphys and tell her you are from the future and a demon posed as Chara the princess is going on killing everyone in the Ruins and everyone should evacuate. Tell her to call Asgore and Undyne and send Mettatron to stop the human for a while. 6- While the unsavable Toriel and robot sacrifice block the human, have everyone evacuate. 7- sans will probably come to you between these, tell him a few of his time traveler jig and also say you are here to warn everyone and him spesifically. You know he will lose to the demon and it is better to just let the demon think they won. 8- Convince Asgore to let Flowey use the 6 souls saying that is the only way to stop the demon. (you can add the demon is posing as his diseased child and killed his wife to enrage him.) 9- Have Flowey become Omega Flowey and tell him to just pass the barrier and grab the first human soul he sees, though this might antagonise some monsters toward you, tell them only 7 souls can stop the demon and add flowey should only take the soul of a diseased or elderly person etc. (This is also the hard part.) 10- Have flowey take a soul, come back, become God of Hyperdeath and break the barrier. Bonus- You can have Asriel pmuch destroy the human until they give up as they have inf stats and this isn't pacifist meaning ASriel won't sulk and cry because they think the human is Chara. Meanwhile, just go to the surface. You can try to take souls for yourself but this option is really risky.
@pohbob
@pohbob 2 күн бұрын
Only issue is can you really trust flowey?
@themaximusyang8645
@themaximusyang8645 2 күн бұрын
After that you will have to deal with probably milions of humans.
@adjaratougnegnebegna3701
@adjaratougnegnebegna3701 2 күн бұрын
​@@pohbobyup,you might stop the route but everyone part of your plans gonna die due to flowey betraying everyone
@Solesteam
@Solesteam 2 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="240">4:00</a> When you reach snowdin your pretty much set for all other plans, let sans know everything you do and he'd be certain to help come up with a plan, whether it be he stalls for you to do something else or he takes you on a shortcut to anywhere within reason... Heck, he can get you to the castle so you can tell Asgore to absorb the 6 souls or you'll do it yourself... Wait, I don't think we'd know exactly how to do that or how magic even works come to think of it... tell Asgore to absorb the 6 souls or you'll make sans do it! Or... Someone... Maybe even just warn all the layer bosses about Frisk, have them band together and destroy the tiny bridge papyrus made and alphys can set up motion sensing turrets in proximity. Heck, box form mettaton is still invincible at the level Frisk would be at.... If you can get to sans first and he can get you to Alphys in time, you can beg Mettaton to save the day WAY earlier... Heck, at the coloured tile maze he can just put Frisk in a chokehold... Or at least just force an encounter and do the same 1 attack until Frisk slips up... Or better yet, find the *_Dog._* Not sure what it would do, but it's always absent during most of the genocide route... Hopefully it'll do something.
@lexcentrique2554
@lexcentrique2554 2 күн бұрын
Destroying the bridge could be a good solution if you come here in time before the human. As said before, you don't know how many times the human resets unless you've seen the look on their face, and if you get enough time, the human's only chance is by winning as much time as possible to arrive before you destroy the bridge. Though, not everything is lost if the human somehow manages to get through the bridge before you can go there. Sure, the human will save and thus you can't redo your trick again, but worst to come, you can do the Mad Dummy Technique. Basically, just make sure it's NEVER the human's turn. Prepare as much food as possible, because you only have two goals and you can't afford yourself to fail them: Avoid being hit by a ghost's tears and avoid falling asleep. This means the human's just stuck forever, which is another dead end to fully make the human give up. The bottom line of both of these techniques is that if the human cannot go any further, the human will give up.
@ClodsireBcuzYes
@ClodsireBcuzYes 3 күн бұрын
i think a better way would be convincing toriel that there is a non-human genocidal maniac trying to gain levels, thats gone insane due to being trapped in the underground for too long, and that all the monsters need to evacuate the ruins, lock the door on them, and ask asgore to just use the 6 human souls because by the time he gets up there, with 6 human souls, he would easily be able to get the last one. i mean just think how much time asriel had when he was being bombarded with attacks by all the humans with no resistance and he had only one soul, asgore would have plenty enough time to get the last one needed to become god. i think toriel would go along with the plan. i mean its been so long since the last human falls, what are the odds one falls while they are making it to asgore (when they break the barrier they would be able to prevent any humans from falling into the ruins with the "maniac monster" by making a barrier (like a fence and a sign, not a magic one)
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 2 күн бұрын
So, how do you prove that there's a genocidal monster around? If i told you there was a serial killer ready to kill you outside of your house without any proof to support my statements, would you believe me? Also, this might result in toriel wanting to go deal with this hypothetical genocidal monster on her own, given that she's far stronger than most monsters (atk 80, def 80.)
@ClodsireBcuzYes
@ClodsireBcuzYes 2 күн бұрын
@@dylanzlol7293 for the first one, im sure you could find one monster willing to pretend. And for the second: toriel is likely still very low level, I doubt she has ever killed anyone. If you claim they have killed almost the entire ruins she might go along with evacuating what's left. While technically the second is given you could get every monster to play along and convince them that this is for the best It ain't perfect but you got infinite chances with the human's resets.
@yanim8s350
@yanim8s350 Күн бұрын
​@@ClodsireBcuzYes Toriel most likely fought in the war
@ryanred1525
@ryanred1525 2 күн бұрын
Go to the throne room “yo king a new human has fallen into the underground and he killed Toriel and pretty much everyone else he found” and then let omega Asgore do it for me.
@jacobf.1691
@jacobf.1691 23 сағат бұрын
Just convince Flowey and Asgore, Asgore would probably still hold back a little. Flowey wouldn’t. Downside: Flowey destroys everything
@VsStuffs
@VsStuffs 2 күн бұрын
Although you probably couldn't do it as some typical Ruins monster, the idea of releasing the Amalgamates has always been interesting to me, they literally can't die.
@gabrielmbx9253
@gabrielmbx9253 2 күн бұрын
The problem is can be spares, and amalgamates is more like a animal and can go to another part or feels terror to the human
@edwardberthold9699
@edwardberthold9699 3 күн бұрын
Step 1. Find souls Step 2. Kill all monsters Step 3. Make it so they are at there weakest Step 4. Make them go in the tiniest box, surrond them with abbilitys, kill them Step 5. Delete save star CONGRATS! You killed the human!
@MrFuzzy54568
@MrFuzzy54568 2 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="196">3:16</a> You could instead convince her to do it to keep the future humans safe. That would make it easy.
@TheOgersMask
@TheOgersMask 2 күн бұрын
evacuate as much people as you can, make sure (sadly) Papyrus isn't one of them, then wait for Undyne the Undying to wreck Frisk until they give up.
@joeypickering5273
@joeypickering5273 2 күн бұрын
If I were to stop the human, I’d choose either Whimsalot or Final Froggit since TECHNICALLY they are Ruins Monsters in the HARDMODE soooo One, get a group of strong ruins monsters like Vegetoid or Froggit and before the human shows up, try and find Sans, then try and convince him to teleport me and the group of monsters to the Barrier and consume the SOULs and or tell Asgore to consume them. secret ending: flowey consumes the souls and the souls of my group and the events of Inverted Fate happen
@Justbored8783
@Justbored8783 Күн бұрын
Amalgamates could also work pretty well. They are immortal and player will have no choice but to spare them.
@kalebdoesstuff5648
@kalebdoesstuff5648 2 күн бұрын
New Undertale AU just dropped
@dabnoob317
@dabnoob317 3 күн бұрын
i would pull a dusttale and kill everyone in the underground to become the elusive lv 20 froggit and kill the human
@SonicWho1836
@SonicWho1836 3 күн бұрын
Yes
@arieldraws4829
@arieldraws4829 3 күн бұрын
Sadly, the Dusttale logic dont apply to the canon (and is very flawed) The reason the players gets stronger, is because they are hesitating less and having more murderous intentions TOGHETER with their powerful human soul, not actually becoming stronger by some sort of power they gaining, becoming a nuke agaisnt monsters who are very weak for this emotions The human's defense is determination based and they being more physical unlike the monsters, so their defense shouldnt be affected by your intentions, only by how powerful you actually are, which you dont actually raise by killing people, only becoming less hesitant, you would need to TRAIN ALOT, which i doubt you would have time Rebember you are stuck as a normal monster and not something like the major characters
@potatofarmer9488
@potatofarmer9488 3 күн бұрын
@@arieldraws4829 Your defence would increase though
@dabnoob317
@dabnoob317 3 күн бұрын
@@arieldraws4829 bro wrote a 5 paragraph essay to respond to what is essentially a joke comment i AM reading allat
@arieldraws4829
@arieldraws4829 2 күн бұрын
@@potatofarmer9488 Idk really, the HP and DF increase is tied in to Sans LOVE explanation as "the more LOVE you have, you distance from yourself more, the more you distance from yourself, the less you feel hurt" So is more that the player get used to the pain and their determination is pushing them though it all, this thing seems very common with other media characters, specially the evil ones Tho Idk how well this will go to a monster, they still have their intention based weakness and even if a high LV monster makes them more open to fighting, thus raising their DF, they are still a normal monster that just suddenly starting killing with no proper training, so their actual power should still be low, and again, a human with their powerful soul and malicious intentions is still a walking nuke towards normal monsters, idk how well a normie monster could take, maybe some hits before going down
@RpgBlasterRpg
@RpgBlasterRpg 2 күн бұрын
It could had worked if all Monsters jumped the human all at once
@ale-xsantos1078
@ale-xsantos1078 Күн бұрын
A lot of people are talking about Flowey but the human's biggest asset is Chara Chara is the one who's LV is increasing, who CHECKs the stuff, who narrates, who Flowey wants to help and ultimately who attacks Sans the second time(the one hit that kills him) and destroys the world in the end At the start of the game Chara likely doesnt remember much if at all about they are and their opinion of the human hasnt been formed yet, only later through trauma bonding they side with the human as a replacement of Asriel as their sibling-figure Since talking is a free action during a turn(so long you dont attack) you can Talk No Jutsu them into not helping the human by revealing what you know about their past(preferably without addressing them as the narrator or providing context to still keep the human in the dark about that stuff) and use your ability to fly or dive(depending on which minster you picked) to escape battle if it doesnt work If it works this removes the human's ability to check objects and monsters, removes Flowey's help, the power of LV, the victory over Sans and the destruction of the world in the end Maybe even the Reset, depending on wheter Frisk's Determination is increased by Chara or not, since the ability to SAVE comes being the most determined being in the Underground, though giving that back to Flowey is not necessarily a improvement And who knows, if you're lucky maybe it might be possible that Chara's spirit could go from the human to you if they're determined enough to change host, and if that happens you very much won
@MrLightningLord143
@MrLightningLord143 2 күн бұрын
Me about to get 30 moldsmalls just to sit in the human's way, if the human spares them, no more genocide, otherwise, they'll be there for a while. This would also work with Jerry.
@Koiishi_Komeiji
@Koiishi_Komeiji 2 күн бұрын
How dare you even thinking about teaming with someone like jerry? + Sparing jerry does not abort the genocide
@MrLightningLord143
@MrLightningLord143 2 күн бұрын
@@Koiishi_Komeiji Good point well, then I guess we're going with the souls strat if they have the patience to go past ruins
@Oplamoas
@Oplamoas 3 күн бұрын
ngl this is a pretty unique video idea
@a_person5668
@a_person5668 2 күн бұрын
I think there’s a better idea than having Asgore absorb the souls. Give them to Mettaton. I’m serious, even without the souls, he probably has the best chance of stopping the human if he just stops trying to be as flashy as possible for 2 seconds. His base form, not Neo, not EX, is the best chance the monsters have. It is literally impervious to all attacks, there is no violent way to get through him. Now, obviously, there’s a big weakness there still. If the human can get behind him and flip that switch, it’s game over very quickly. So like, idk, talk to Alphys and get her to remove that whole thing, make the switch not work or whatever, it shouldn’t be too hard Annd, given Napstablook is, or at least once was, close to Mettaton, and still someone Mettaton cares for deeply, we have a good monster in the ruins to use to help in the effort, to convince Mettaton of the danger and to get him to arrive before too many innocents have been killed.
@silverwolfzs7601
@silverwolfzs7601 2 күн бұрын
Unlike Flowey, Asgore doesn’t have his own determination nor is he aware of what it is, so it’s unlikely that he’ll be able to erase your save file the same way Flowey did, especially when the human has even more determination on genocide… Not to mention that the human’s damage gets so ridiculous towards the end, that they’d be able to 1 shot Omega Flowey even despite his 9999 defense… So the odds of being able to stop a genocide run is second to none
@Emuotori_fr
@Emuotori_fr Күн бұрын
This made me remember that I once wanted to make an Undertale fangame where you are the boss or random monster and you throw attack patterns that the enemy CPU will dodge, and you can use the overworld to set traps or stalk the human to delay him xD <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="131">2:11</a> maybe you could take into account that the human is avoiding the pattern as if he already knew it so you go full RNG
@RaphielShiraha64
@RaphielShiraha64 2 күн бұрын
THe easiest solution is to open a shop right in front of a door the human HAS to go through. As we know from gerson, shopkeepers are immortals.
@deesnyder8201
@deesnyder8201 3 күн бұрын
My plan would just be to convince sans to spawncamp the human outside the entrance to hotlands and just make him throw the human into lava with telekinesis everytime they load their save so that its impossible to make any progress.
@GamerTheDev420
@GamerTheDev420 3 күн бұрын
just make a spike puzzle unsolvable by removing the rocks for example or something so they wont be able to pass since they still need to solve these to progress
@tarodo980
@tarodo980 2 күн бұрын
Flowey the Flower helps with puzzles during genocide so this is a no go
@GamerTheDev420
@GamerTheDev420 2 күн бұрын
@@tarodo980 not in the ruins tho
@irineulito719
@irineulito719 2 күн бұрын
You just need to be napstablook and BOOM, you cant die so you can just do sans special attack and there we go, genocide sropped.
@FredbearFazBonnie
@FredbearFazBonnie 2 күн бұрын
But you have one flowery problem.
@FireflyOnyx
@FireflyOnyx 2 күн бұрын
My plan is to set up a shop in an important doorway, blocking it off permanently because shopkeeepers can't be attacked.
@toxdaz
@toxdaz 2 күн бұрын
Tell sans to fight you in snowdin
@Hasan-sj4ke
@Hasan-sj4ke 2 күн бұрын
The main problem is flowey. If you try to do anything would softlock the game flowey would most likely bust frisk outa jail. (And probably kill you) so the only reasonable solution is to kill everyone and make flowey believe that YOUR chara so they would help kill the human. I dont really see any other way other then MAYBE speed running to sans getting him to tp you to asgore then convince him to get the 6 souls and merc frisk and take their soul. Tldr: become dustale sans (with a hint of trickery) or just get asgore.
@KwikBR
@KwikBR 2 күн бұрын
or you could convince flowey that he'll end up dying too
@Hasan-sj4ke
@Hasan-sj4ke 2 күн бұрын
@KwikBR probably but why would he trust you. He might be more likely to just kill you outright before you can speak. And even if you could speak and tell him his entire backstory, he might STILL be in denial and help frisk out thinking they are Chara.
@ale-xsantos1078
@ale-xsantos1078 Күн бұрын
Reminder that Flowey thought Frisk was Chara when Frisk was being host to the actual Chara, something you'd be lacking
@SwagRum76_
@SwagRum76_ 3 күн бұрын
what is this amazing video in my recommended
@SpamtonOf
@SpamtonOf 2 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="16">0:16</a> Fool! I speak fluent Wingdings (yes I am Gaster's twin brother, Blaster)
@NoHandle44
@NoHandle44 2 күн бұрын
I wonder why the preview comment showed me this message, but it took me like a minute to scroll down to actually find it. Sorry if this doesn't make sense.
@chasingcheetahs5017
@chasingcheetahs5017 2 күн бұрын
What you do is time travel to when Alphys was looking for fallen down monsters, intentionally fall down so you can be injected with DT. When you wake up, quickly find an escape (such as following Alphys to the escape.) Amalgamates take no damage so just stand in the way of Frisk at the ruins and Frisk will eventually be bored enough to quit the game.
@un-motivatedYT
@un-motivatedYT 3 күн бұрын
hear me out, ghost monster, get in a robot, go to true lab, find dt (like the one alphys used on the amalgamates and flowey), inject yourself with enough dt to overpower the humans (robot body can probably handle dt better than monster body), jump them, win. would require alot of prep time and luck (1 alphys has any dt left, 2 that robots can handle dt, 3 my soul wouldn't be hurt by the dt)
@evilness3404
@evilness3404 3 күн бұрын
Ghost monster is such a good idea. It allows you to do a lot. I still wouldn't attempt direct confrontation. You won't be able to bond with your body fast enough and due to Flowey being able to hurt you and him potentially wanting to interfere if you lock the human in a never-ending battle. It's best to use your abilities for a more tactical approach. I.E. someone absorbing the 6 human souls.
@seandorama5932
@seandorama5932 3 күн бұрын
Eventually you would melt
@C-aFilms
@C-aFilms 2 күн бұрын
@@evilness3404 mad dummy merged due to a burst of pure emotion, if you are this determined to stop them you would merge
@Solesteam
@Solesteam 2 күн бұрын
Any non boss ruins monster means you can be a Micro-Froggit the human won't even be able to encounter you... though I imagine they probably aren't very fast....
@MrMooseGT
@MrMooseGT 2 күн бұрын
all ya gotta do is do your own genocide route Geno loox (: human wont have much LV you'll be really powerful and in the end if you have enough power you could be more determined than the human and they cant reset/ go to their save file anymore
@emeraldkoala2543
@emeraldkoala2543 2 күн бұрын
An issue I see with Asgore absorbing the human souls is the possibility that the souls might turn on him like they did Flowey. Sure, flowey was much worse from our perspective, but Asgore was either directly or indirectly responsible for their deaths, so I could definitely see them turning on him, unless they also realised that the human would go on to destroy not just monsters, but everyone. And even then, while in Flowey's fight he "deleted" our save and he acted like we were only able to come back because he enjoyed killing us over and over again, but the same can't be said for Asriel's fight at the end of the pacifist run, where we came back through sheer determination, despite him being more powerful (at least lore-wise) than "Omega" Flowey. I don't think impossible odds, insurmountable numbers, or difficult/frustrating attacks could ever be enough to truly deal with the level of determination the human has. The only thing I can think of that could potentially fully stop them is if the monsters found a way to make the experience so insufferable, tedious, boring and/or annoying that they just quit. Also on a less relevant note, this question reminds me of that Dorky skit "If Videogame Bosses Were Actually Smart".
@KeefeRudyardDelaCruzDigital-Ar
@KeefeRudyardDelaCruzDigital-Ar 2 күн бұрын
If anything, Sans literally did what you said, make his fight unfair, unable to make his turn ends, attack while it's their turns, and more. The only issue is due to the fact that, A) he can die in one hit, and B) he can't remember reloads. So if Sans teams up with a ghost like Napstablook or Mew Mew, then he can just use them as meat shields since they can't die by them, and just rest and continue the never ending battle.
@KwikBR
@KwikBR 2 күн бұрын
I doubt they'd even turn on flowey in the geno run, they know what the human's plans are
@rcmastergamer1800
@rcmastergamer1800 2 күн бұрын
1. Get Flowey to help you, since, assuming you know all about Undertale, you know that everyone including Flowey is going to be erased if this human survives. 2. Try and tell the Underground that Flowey is Asriel in a new form (hardest part). 3. Rally the rest of the monsters into helping out. (optional) Worst case scenario, Flowey is still on your side, meaning Omega Flowey will be able to stop the human without the other soul's intervention knowing it's for the greater good. Best case scenario, the monsters sacrifice themselves for Asriel Dreemurr to come back, annihilating the human easily.
@elzixo6144
@elzixo6144 2 күн бұрын
easiest way for that would be quickly telling toriel about all that and proving to her that you're a traveler from a different universe and that you know what you're talking about by telling her something you couldn't possibly know. If you'd do that quickly enough she wouldn't stop flowey from killing the human in the first battle of the game
@gabrielmbx9253
@gabrielmbx9253 2 күн бұрын
Im think in two posibbilites: 1. Use the determination extractor from the secret laboratory psoibble can kill frisk definitvelely 2. And the most damgerous, drop frisk in the core, to this frisk can revive becuase gonna stay in similar state what gaster (but its only a theory)
@Bedrock367
@Bedrock367 3 күн бұрын
Nah. *Just Do The G Run Yourself* =) -NO THIS IS NOT DUST SANS LORE-
@evereq8970
@evereq8970 Күн бұрын
"yo yo bro listen, this time its different you got a special playthrough just do a pacifist and see how epic its gonna be" could work
@klentastic87
@klentastic87 2 күн бұрын
How is destroying the exit out of the question? Toriel won’t listen to the fact a murderous human on the loose? What Toriel *will* listen to is trying to keep the human to stay with her. It’s a bit mean, but if you lie and say a friendly human is coming through who is looking for a permanent place to stay, she may destroy the exit. This obviously has a higher chance of success, unfortunately though we have to lie to goat mom.
@annetteschemer6876
@annetteschemer6876 2 күн бұрын
What if we just ask Sans to shortcut to the CORE facility with the human and push the latter into the CORE itself? Frisk is kinda small, so it shouldn't be a problem to dispose of them. We have no *canonical* proof whether it does or does not work, but it won't be bad to try
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