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Kyosho Mini-Z AWD MA-020 is Fun With Rubber Tires Too

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Sammybaka Mini RC

Sammybaka Mini RC

Күн бұрын

Today we are going to make a change to the Mini-Z AWD MA-020. Most MA-020 including this one come with drift tires. Mine has also been modified specifically for drifting. It's an easy and smooth AWD drifter, but I haven't done much grip driving with it. Let's try it out. In addition, let's convert its wheelbase from 90mm to 94mm. I've never done this with an MA-020.
Let's disassemble the gearboxes to replace the diffs. Optimized for drifting, the front was running an one-way diff. For grip driving though, a regular differential is needed. This is the original gear diff that came with the car. Part of the beauty of Mini-Z is the ease of modifications. It's easy to access the diff. There's also no play.
While the knuckles are out, I'm putting on the king pin spacers to lower the front ride height. The front is done!
Without the steering mechanism, the rear is simpler. Let's take out the solid axle meant for drifting. This is the same type of gear diff installed in the front. To extend the wheelbase, a longer spur gear from the RTR kit is needed. All the MA-020 kits come with spur gears for three different ratios at both 90mm and 94mm configurations. 98mm RTR kits come with additional parts that are otherwise extra purchases. With the spur gear installed, it's easy to see how it reaches back further by 4mm.
The gearbox is mounted using the second set of screw holes to go between 90mm and 94mm. The rear is done too.
I'm going to use the Subaru WRC 2008 body. It's 94mm, narrow front, with 2.5mm offset front and 0mm offset wide in the rear. I will use the rims that came with the body, plus Kyosho 20 degree radial tires. It's all completed! We now have a 94mm MA-020 with rubber tires. The gyro is still installed on the top. It's a pretty unusual sight, at least for me.
It's time to drive the car and see how it compares with the MR-03 experience. An AWD drivetrain for the Subaru body is perfect. On a freshly vacuumed floor surface and grippy 20 degree radial, the AWD generates pretty good traction. Especially with the gyro, I can really punch the throttle and it will accelerate and brake straight.
(Hi Loki!)
It's no joke that AWD has an inherent advantage over RWD when driven on a relatively slippery surface like this. What's also obvious is that MA-020 doesn't nearly turn as tightly as an MR-03. This is already at maximum endpoints. An MR-03 with 70% dual rate turns in better. Still this is a lot of fun to blast around. I've never driven an MA-020 this way. It's fun to exercise MA-020's duality of drift and grip. At some point, I will revert it back to a CS drift setup, but for now it's going to wear rubber tires.
This is Sammy and thanks for watching!
I love Mini-Z!
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@reevesc87
@reevesc87 Жыл бұрын
Ma020 with grip tires is fun on wood floors, great traction but can still bust out a power slide when you want to.
@sammybaka
@sammybaka Жыл бұрын
Yeah it handles the home surface quite well. It's easy to change things up with a car I already have.
@shanelai2515
@shanelai2515 Ай бұрын
Hey! Which rubber tyre did you buy? I'm at lost with so many choices. I just bought my first AWD but still want to grip race for fun.
@sammybaka
@sammybaka Ай бұрын
I haven't put an ma-020 on an rcp track before so I'm not sure what tires would work well there. On RCP or carpet there will be a ton of traction and real chances of traction rolling; on that surface, I would go with harder compounds probably 30 or even 40 degree. If you are running on more slippery surfaces like at home, then you will want all the traction you can get, such as 20 degree radial.
@ligerbearrc-no6jp
@ligerbearrc-no6jp Жыл бұрын
I really like AWD cars for racing. (I don't drift.) Both the MA-020 and the MA-030 are just as fast as the MR-03 at my skill level, and are, for me, much easier to drive. I'm not sure if I understand your comments about turning. My MA's and MR's have similar turning circles. In general you will get more understeer under power with AWD or FWD vs RWD, so perhaps that is what you are experiencing. That is also affected by running the gyro or not, as well as tire selection and suspension setup. I like the Subaru WRX's, both in RL & RC. 😀
@sammybaka
@sammybaka Жыл бұрын
That's awesome. I've only done rwd on a track but I would love to try some awd cars like SZ2 in the future. AWD might be faster for me at my skill level. Regarding turning circles: I didn't measure the radius exactly, but ma-020 definitely felt more crowded in my apartment vs my rwd cars. I think you are right that the awd drivetrain and probably also the gyro are factors. I'm running pretty soft springs up front, and I can try firmer tires in the back next time.
@spaceyrat
@spaceyrat Ай бұрын
@@sammybaka We run MA-020 on our home RCP track - smooth side up. Narrow width 90mm and the stock drift tires. Gyro off. Medium soft springs up front (purple). It may not be the fastest but it is a fun challenge to drive.
@phoenixlee3180
@phoenixlee3180 Жыл бұрын
A major flaw with the Kyosho MA-010/MA-020 chassis, is after a lot of use, the steering starts to wear down and not center anymore. Which is why on long straights, the Kyosho AWD chassis suffers and has deterred many veteran drivers over the years. People have tried to fix this issue, with no luck. Also, if the chassis undergoes extreme use, it will begin to crack near the bottom, around the motor and battery areas. Unfortunately, the AWD is only good for entry-level drifting and small puttering around.
@sammybaka
@sammybaka Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I can see ma-020 having a harder time in more rigorous conditions due to its weight and plastic construction. Mine isn't going to a track any time soon.
@ligerbearrc-no6jp
@ligerbearrc-no6jp Жыл бұрын
A bare chassis is about $10. Factory steering parts are cheap as well. MPower-Pro still makes upgraded parts for racing. No need to drive what you don't like, but the MA-020 is a lot of fun for those of us who may not be pro-level racers.
@Macgyver46
@Macgyver46 10 ай бұрын
My skyline AWD got rubber tires before it was turned on. Love AWD hate drifting.
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