I now have both, I can say both have their own pros/cons. I also use both for small coffee popups/caterings. In a popup setting, I love the higher clearance on the R58, and the ease of topping up water in the water reservoir tank (I dont put takeaway cups on the cups warmer). Both are MP (manual paddle), hence same weightage on this one. In a home setting, Micra wins by a huge margin on the heat up time, very powerful steam albeit the shorter steam wand.

Wanted to get the rocket, then decided for the micra due to the heat up time. This is a game changer with dual boilers

Please can you tell me the clearance between the drip tray and the portafilter on the micra? Ive been looking online for a few days and cant find the dimensions despite lots of people saying the clearance is an issue. Thanks

why not brew without drip tray in MIcra to accommodate for scale and or larger vessel

Biggest reason to not get the Rocket is the E61 w/ 3x longer heat up time and a larger footprint. Got my Mirca two weeks ago and I❤love cafe quality shots at home with small footprint for my small kitchen. The portafilter was designed to have less thermal mass for a quicker heat up time not to cut cost it was design feature by La Marzocco . I can turn on my machine for 5min and have cafe quality espresso quickly a huge plus for home machine.

I’m really interested in the micra but I am a little worried about the app approach. I’d like this machine to last as long as possible and I’m worried what happens if they drop app support for any reason

Clearance under the portafilter is an issue. Especially with a lunar scale under it. You’ll always have the use something small to catch your espresso.

The plastic portafilter was an interesting choice but would go with the Rocket. The option to remove/hide the PID for the more traditional classic look is also a handy thing. Quality wise can't fault Rocket so far three years in with a Mozzafiato Cronometro Evoluzione R and quality every time. Definitely, a statement piece that is functional for a kitchen, life is too short for bad coffee and bad food. Great work again on the production Coffee Parts.

I would have liked you to have pulled some shots with both machines and blind tasted them. Even of both make good espresso, Is there a persistent difference between them in taste?

Rocket or La Marzocco?. I got the Micra. Very happy with it.

I hope height between portafilter and tray is not like Gaggia classic at la marzocco . We cant get low drip tray for it :)

They both look great. Better than the one I have! Maybe in the future they will come with something better and unique

Price?????

Thanks for the video. I ordered La Marzocco Linea Micra today. I wanted something where hot water is not in contact with any plastic. Now I just heard about the plastic portafilter. Is it touching the boiling water? Thanks.

Its so easy to add flow control to the rocket, why would you not mention that?

Can you review the La Spaziale Mini Vivaldi II please

The Micra wasn’t available when I bought my Rocket, so I had no choice to make. Having seen this, and acknowledging that the Micra might be right for others, I would not prefer it myself. Very happy with my Cinquantotto.

I’m going to pickup my R58 today - yesterday. When I went to look at both machines, I initially thought that the micra was the linea mini at first glance. But sadly no, it was the much smaller machine next to it, which I barely noticed. - it simply lacks scale in my opinion, and the workspace is too limited. Hence I ordered the R58 which stood next to it, and for me looked superior. As a coffee technician, I like how easy it is to build flow control, and other mods to the 58. The only dealbreaker I could see with the Rocket is the heat up time. I kinda fear the electric bill. I do like the pedal and knobs on the micra, more than the rocket also. All in all, I think I would be very pleased with both machines, but if I’m not even a la marzocco fanboy, then the extra money wouldn’t make sense for me to throw at it.

I really enjoyed watching the video, it was very informative. However, I noticed that there were several camera angles where my perspective was placed off to the left and only the side of your face was visible. As a viewer, I felt like I wasn't being directly engaged and it took away from the experience a bit. I understand that for some reason this is a trend on KZfaq now, but perhaps it could be done in a way that doesn't leave the viewer feeling left out. Just some constructive feedback to consider for future videos. Thank you for sharing your content!

La Marzocco! Hoping to make that my next machine! Both beautiful though

Neither, the La Marzocco gets closest with the small size and quick heat up, but please no, not another "expletive deleted" App. On the other hand, I am just not into E61 machines, they all look the same, take a fair bit of time to heat up, and, I assume with all the exposed hot metal, use a lot of energy.

I have my heart set on a Blue Micra. Just a couple more months, and all being well, I will be ready to take the plunge.

Can micra compare with lelit Bianca v3 ?

I'd take La Marzocco's saturated grouphead and modern internals over E61 machine any day.

I got the Micra. I hope I made the right choice

From Line Mini, to Decent, to Ponte Vecchio Lusso, the Micra is the most easiest and best machine. The 5 minute ramp up is a game changer. The espresso is top quality and it is idiot proof. Literally a no brainer.

Is the Micra easier to plumb in compare to the Mini? Or is it still the same?

Micra seems overpriced for not having a lot of basic features like even a basic screen to see shot times or brew temps

you have a nice smile sir

I think micra, the smaller size wins to be honest. But that's a problem for next year 😂

If you have $4000 or less what would you buy?

Ho una Marzocco da 15 mesi, solo problemi, passa tanto tempo in assistenza, non la riprenderei, sto documentandomi per sostituirla , purtroppo ci lascio tanti soldi, ma sono stanco delle settimane e settimane in assistenza. I problemi non vengono risolti e sistematicamente si ripresentano. Di sicuro mi è capitato un prodotto fallato, ma non lo sostituiscono

The Micra wins on aesthetics and size. Some clever engineering and design, too, to create a product like this that is so compact. The minimalist approach is a winner for me. But … what’s with the app. Seriously. That’s a big thumbs down. So too is the clearance between port-a-filter and drip tray. Lastly, I’ve got to say it, that elephant is really heavily on me … the price.

own the old R58 a couple of years now. Never any problem in daily use. Thought about the Micra because of the extreme preheat time of 35 minutes of the R58. Would have bought the Micra - but no - no - no - a build in Shottimer would have cost 30 Euro and rise the endprice 200 in Marzocco "dimensions". Sorry, it's 2023. Where's the problem to build in a small display of a few mm. Just a counter 1-35 sec. ? because it's rocket science ? - even if Rocket offer it last two years for the same price as for the old machine for shure it is not.

La Marzocco, still!

Which one I'd want? La Marzocco ... Leva X ;-). Seriously though, Micra. I'd only want a Rocket with Giotto sides.

I am surprised you would label the Rocket as commercial grade machine. To my knowledge, there are no commercial machines build with an E 61 grouphead. Even Rocket’s own commercial machine do not have e61 group heads. I think this is misleading. I think you are probably making more money selling Rockets than la marzocco. E61 machines are popular because they are cheap to build. The innovation la marzocco is bringing with their micra is pretty amazing, such as a 5 to 8 mn heat up time as an example….for full disclosure I own neither machines.

I much prefer the classic Italian design with modern touches of the Rocket, over the design of the Micra. Also there's nothing classy about a plastic portafilter.

Yep, it sounds like a sales pitch. "They're both great!" Ugh....

Size matter. This machine for single or a couple people living in a tiny apartment.

Compare these two is simple, if you get the LA Micra, you're paying more for less. It's smaller, less space for steam milk, just one portafilter with plastic removible attached, a PID control, timer, etc by app and it is MORE EXPENSIVE. It is just the brand. To Pay more for the Mini ok, but even the Mini is to damn expensive.

Rocket

yeah! an expert salesman doesn't know which one to sell. The worst sales strategy is to confuse potential perspectives with competing brands.

The are Timeless, but not the Best

E61

My advise: please keep control of your hands while speaking. The really do distract constantantly moving. Second tip do not constantl y flip flop camera stand. You ar not fox network. Thanks for the comparison

I do not like the way the La Marzocco front is made, it feels the same as a Breville. And at 6500 seems way over priced compared to the R58 at 3300.