The old oil info is interesting but everyone came here to see if they should be shaking the new oil they are buying. That wasn't really covered at all. But if you pause on the data sheet, you can see that YES, the New shaken oil had a much higher additive content than the New non-shaken sample. So YES, shake your new oil before pouring it.

My natural instinct when preparing to shake something that has “settled” is to turn the container upside down prior to shaking. How odd it was to see you shake it “right side up”.

On the topic of old oil, in the '70s I went to Sears with my dad with our own container and you could buy bulk oil. If I recall their top of the line was called "Spectrum", cost about 30 cents a quart and really smelled bad. At the time I didn't know what the smell was until I became a hot rodder, bought my first Crane Cam and the pint bottle of oil additive they included had the same stink. It was the high pressure zinc etc additives!

New oil from Pennzoil had additive fallout in bottom of container. Sent pictures and emailed Shell. Their response was all new oil needs to be shaken heavily before used.

It’s cool that you’re actually willing to share your knowledge of oil to the general public like this. Most people in your position would try to keep things a “race team secret”.

I love this channel because it feels like only the people watching this would be as excited about that foam test as Lake was.

Great job Lake! Always "Shaken, not stirred!" -James Bond

It's safe to say that the old oil should be used as shelf-art in the garage... nothing more. Thanks for doing this!

Glad to see you use HPL oil products. I’ve heard very good things about them and have used their products a little. Your use of their stuff is an independent statement of their quality.

We love learning from Lake Speed, thanks for making great content. The foam coming off the old gear oil at the end demonstrates the importance of changing an older vehicle’s (often forgotten) gear oil. Yet another example of how maintenance matters.

I love your videos very informative and easy to understand, "Oil: shaken not stirred; Stirring bruises the additives."

I have leaned now in my 50's that lubricants are what I'm interested in. You're living my life, Lake! Good stuff!

Sure is refreshing to see some science backing up the claims. Tanks for all the hard work!

What about sending the sludge at the bottom of bottle off for testing? It would be neat to see what actually separated out of the oil. Does one additive separate more readily than others?

Lake, great stuff here. Over my 50+ years making a living turning wrenches, this is information that dispels a lot that I've heard over the years. The moisture intrusion factor with plastic containers also applies to brake fluid that's in those type containers. Personally, I buy only the amount of brake fluid that I need for a certain project and I date the container when I've opened it. Living in Florida with humidity through the roof, I remember the days when I first started out in a small shop, where that metal gallon jug of shop use brake fluid would sit opened until it was used up. This was insanity, come to think of it, but many of us didn't know. That kind of info wasn't as easily found back in the early 1970s, plus the guy that owned the shop was cheap. He didn't waste anything. I never used that shop fluid in my car because of the fact that I didn't want fluid that might have trash in it from it always being open. Kind of a common sense thing with a hydraulic system that's critical like brakes. The small containers of brake fluid were all metal back in the day with a thick metal seal in the top, under the screw on cap. This makes me wonder if an unopened metal container of brake fluid degrades? Thanks for a great and informative video, Lake. I remember seeing your dad when he used to campaign that T-bird. I'm glad that he's still having fun with it.

I was helping a friend make room in his garage for his new Silverado. We found maybe 10-15 opened quarts of motor oil. I used you videos as justification to dispose of every single one. Some were from the 90s.

It's not that you are not providing valuable information for free. We appreciate all the time,effort, and money spent on our behalf. Yet life is short. 32 minutes is a lot longer when you're waiting for results.

We truly appreciate your sharing what you learn in your experiments & tests! Thank you, sir!

Years ago I worked for a fab shop that was heavily involved in various racing formats. I got hired around the time they were in the middle of a huge fight over Valvoline oil and an oil foaming issue. Both oil tests and further experiments had shown that the oil had issues with foaming to the point it aerated the entire oil supply in the pan. It prompted both a sponsorship change and a new oil. This was in the early 80's and the 'new' oil was Kendall GT, of which they started running solely their 20W50 racing oil and a synthetic gear lube from Pace Lubricants in TX. In the shop, on other non-race vehicles we used either Mobil1 or Castrol depending on the vehicle. I do remember taking home the buckets from the gear oil, which we went through roughly a 5 gallon bucket ever two weeks, and finding the bottom of those buckets with a thick scum on the bottom. The gear lube was a mix of Wolfs head and Kendall. The oil samples we sent out back then were all used oil in failed engines but foaming was a big issue even when the oils ere new. Comparing it to the new oils isn't any sort of comparison, the new oil is always going to be better but on most run of the mill daily drivers from back in the day, the oil they ran then is likely good enough still today in those old engines. Four years ago I stopped driving a 1980 Ford with 369k on it, it went its entire life running on 10W30 Havoline oil that was acquired back in 1980. I still have several unopened cases of it. It did just fine, it was good for it then and I never changed, and never bought new oil, I just used what was on hand. It was still running when I sold it with zero issues in a 300 I6 Ford engine. It simply didn't need anything better to keep it alive all those years. Would new oil be 'better' , I have no doubts, but the old oil was good enough and it saved me a ton of money over the years and likely had no detrimental effects in the later years with that truck. I also have 12 cases of unopened 1985 issue Havoline in the round plastic bottles. It was 10W40 oil supplied through a sponsor at the time as a 'gift' of sorts. I never had anything that ran 10W40 so it sat on the shelf. Its in most of my oil cans around the shop and in a few lawn mowers that are likely more than 50 years old. A lot boils down to any oil is better than no oil, and for old technology vehicles and engines, old oil on the shelf is likely fine for normal use with annual oil changes. I certainly wouldn't put it in my newer vehicles, but the rating alone would prevent that.

Connery and Craig are my top Bonds. Connery is the CLASSIC movie bond, Craig brought the essence of the books to life.

Great video! You have confirmed the theory with practice! This is wonderful!

this is a goldmine of info, thanks!

Wow, very surprising and impressive results! Thanks for the doing the scientific testing as solid proof!

Thank you! Another highly informative video. I never would have even considered shaking oil.

Great stuff, thanks for your time, effort and humor!

Love your channel! Very cool info for an old engineer like me!! Keep up the great work!

Excellent tests and info, thank you Lake!

Well done sir, Love your channel The numbers and science behind it is amazing. Definitely love you going down to the lab

More of this PLEASE!!!!

Very educational visuals at the Lab !

As an old dog, im really enjoying your channel learning new tricks I want to say thank you! I still turn my own wrenches but things have changed. I’m almost double nickels so things have changed a lot in my years. I appreciate you doing all these breakdowns and explaining the the W’a! And it’s also nice to say Heidi ho from the other side of , North Carolina.

Lake your videos are great! I keep coming back to watch what’s new.

Good to know and a must see for anyone in mechanical maintenance. !!!

I just found a case of oil so old it's still in cardboard bottles! Im still watching the video, vut indoubt ill be putting it in my daily driver (1994 Chevy 4x4 that I bought new). That 350 runs like new even after 290,000 miles, with an oil/lube every 3000 miles. **Edited** After watching the full video, it definitely reinforced my opinion of not using the old oil in my truck! I'll just mix it with the hydraulic oil I spray on the underside and insides of the doors and cab corners to prevent rust from all the damn salt on the roads in the Northeast winters.

Another great video. As I quickly stated and gave a quick handshake towards the end of Saturday at this year's PRI show, thank you for doing these great videos. I use your videos in my engine building and repair class.

GREAT,,,,yes more lab tests

Thank you, Lake! This channel has taught me so much.

The anti-foaming qualities of that HPL gear oil was kind of mind blowing. HPL has been on my radar for a couple a years now, thinking I’m going to finally pull the trigger on some.

Great video. Keep them coming. Motor oil geek all the way.

HPL Lubricants ! So glad you went to them. This is what all companies should strive for in terms of performance, customer service, innovation. I had a question about a product once . The person I was initially talking to couldn't answer. She transfered me to the CEO. He was great. Wow, try that with Elon! 😂

I thought if the oil container was sealed and shaken once in a while, the oil would still be ok for 1-10 years.. I am really surprised. I received couple of cases of oil from my father after his passing.... Now I am just going to recycle it. I cannot afford my current car to blow up... Great content...

This is a very entertaining & fun video Lake.

Thank you! You have opened my eyes to different types of oil and how it tested!

Very informative video and thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience with your viewing audience.

Sean Connery… the best 007. Awesome video Lake, learned a ton…also liked the guitar riff!

Thanks for another great video. I always shake the bottle but I guess it's been for nothing 😆. That hpl refused to hold air. Incredible

Thanks for giving us the information that we mortals need to help our engines last as long as they possibly can......the costs of cars has dictated we make them last as long as possible

Great content, Mr Speed.

Great video to answer my (group also) question about whether shaking old containers of motor oil would be effective in recombining the oil chem pack that has fallen out of solution over time. I appreciate how you use scientific control protocols in providing true empirical results instead of opinion and urban myth. I look forward to the video followup on your results using the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum Synthetic motor oil.

Thanks Lake Speed for sharing your science based approach and knowledge with us means a lot to me

Shared with all my motor-friends. Thank you.

oh wow thank you soooooooo much for this.... this was so impressive and nice to see the results... science is so fascinating

Thanks for the great content, and for the workouts! 😄

Thanks for the science info. I respect truth and data vs opinion and old garage tales.

First time at this channel. "I love ya, but I'm not shakin' it for ya"!!! HILARIOUS!! Now subscribed!

I buy oil on sale, so ya, I've seen residue on the bottom. And this is a fantastic upload, I've always wondered about my 5 year old full synthetics sitting in the shed. I gotta thank you, those lab analysis runs are $45 each at Blackstone.

Sean get my vote too. Great car!!! Great testing Lake!

When I observed you vigorously shaking the oil containers (after you made a comment about Sean Connery as James Bond), it reminded me that Sean Connery's character in the James Bond movies only preferred his Vodka Martinis to be "shaken, not stirred!"

Very informative and highly appreciated, thank you sir.

Fantastic video! 😀❤️

Good workout for you. Excellent vid, excellent subject. Thanks.

I liked your frother test, not sure what that says about me......... Mobile One sold me on full synthetic oil in 1998. I had a brand new vehicle then, and the first oil change at 1500 miles was done during a cold snap where morning temperatures when I started the vehicle were in the -20 degrees Fahrenheit. The difference in noise and cranking speed was VERY noticeable. The vehicle came with traditional motor oil from the factory, but I have used full synthetic ever since. Sean Connery is my favorite James Bond as well.

I'll tell you one thing, if it is cold,oil and a lot of fluids get a little thick or sticky, shaking it up makes it faster to pour out.

I find your videos interesting as I'm a retired CAT&CUMMINGS knuckle buster and this industry has been using oil analysis at least fifty years. I like you really get a good laugh visiting Walmart and walk down the oil isle; know wonder people get confused!!! Sense sometime in the mid/70s have used only two brands of motor oil in everything I own including lawnmowers,motorcycles, cars and trucks. And the brands will probably shock sum people; Mobil Delvac or Shell Rotella 15W40. Currently I only use Shell Rotella 5W40 synthetic in everything!!! And for the disbelievers I ran a 3.5 hp B&S (Briggs & Stratton) push mower on 15W40 for twenty five years!!! Oh I just read that Kholer Motor Company in their name brand oil is actually Amsoil.

Either I'm a time traveler, or this video was reuploaded from the other day. 😂 Great information! Now, we have definitive proof that oils age even if they aren't used.

The gear oil on the right would have done Guinness proud if it had been beer. Great review and superb lab testing.

The Richard Holdener of lubricaton, love the videos. Honestly surprised that I haven't seen your videos sooner.

I started shaking oil cans before pouring because of a failure in UH-1 helicopters. There were several failures of transmission bearings and analysis showed that the anti foaming additive had settled out and the oil had foamed excessively

Keep the videos coming Lake!

Love your enthusiasm Lake. Also, back in the day, every time I talked to your father, he was always a joy to talk with. I had some old semi synthetic Valvoline 10W/40 that was about 15 years old. My neighbor was getting ready to leave for a long drive to see a friend that was 300 miles away in her 7 year old Kia. I asked her if her boyfriend had checked the car over before she left and she said no. So I checked under the hood and found she needed some coolant for the overflow and the engine oil was about 2 quarts low. She didn't have any oil, and I didn't want to just give her my fresh Mobil 1, so I gave her 2 of these old Valvoline quarts. Funny, her first remark was how much better and quiet the engine sounded.... what a surprise.... right? I did look inside the bottles and there really wasn't anything in the bottom to my surprise. But I felt that having something in there that would lubricate was far better than not having something that would lubricate. She got back and said everything ran fine. But I highly recommended that she get her boyfriend to service her car, or to go get the oil changed, and perhaps check the oil level sometimes and get it changed at least once a year on her birthday or something.

Great stuff Lake.

Pierce brosnan for sure!! I grew up in the 90's 😎 Pennzoil platinum high mileage is my oil of choice and I can tell the additive package does fall out. So when the jug gets to about the 1 quart line, I shake it and whirl it around in the jug until it picks up all that stuff in the bottom then I pour the rest in.

Great job. A lot of work for you, but valuable to us. Thank you.

Connery for king of bond, and thanks for proving my point ;) been saying this for two decades.

I am not a car guy in the sense that I work on my vehicle or do any kind of racing, however I was fascinated by the fact that motor oil "gets old"... considering that its base product is about 6,500 years old to begin with (Biblically). I know the raw product from the ground goes though dozens of processes before it is bottled for vehicle use, but have always used whatever I had on the self, no matter its age thinking "it's already thousands of years old, how can it hurt?" What an eyeopener. Thanks! (PS: I am "that guy" who shakes up a gallon of milk container, each time before using it too!)

That is cool stuff and good knowledge on the oils. Thanks

More HPL stuff please. Great products

Awesome video awesome shirt, keep up the good work!

My first guess guess was that components in the old oil have become oxidated and precipitated out of suspension over time. Oxidated products are likely to be more polar and be denser. That would not seem to be kind of thing you want in your new oil and more like something you want to drain out in an oil change. It could be an anticorrosive agent(s) that have been consumed by oxidation over time with no use and no longer available to protect a running engine. Shake it up all you want and get all that junk all in suspension, the same elements may be there, but not in the same forms found in the new oil. My sentiment would be to recycle the old oil and just by new oil as indicated here. This affirms the idea that if my car sits in a garage a lot, I should still change my oil after a year or so in spite of milage.

Roger Moore and Sean Connery are my fav's. As to the oil, great info. The only thing I would have changed is shaking them inverted.

Great Video!!! Old oils definitely cannot be used in the engine because they have water and a high level of oxidation. But the ZDDP level of the old Mobil is incredible, more than 2500

Love the content Lake, we always come away more knowledgeable for your lab work

Thanks, i appreciate your efforts!

Let's Shake It BOYSSSS 😂😂😂 I love your Lab Test btw

Same Sean Connery - epic voice perfect for the part had the hair and dignified appearance

trying to keep my old bug running as long as possible, super helpful video.

That gear oil would have destroyed a rearend in short order and would have had it blowing out seals and all kinds of stuff probably. I'm also surprised/not surprised to find out there was water in some of the oil. Thats really good to know. Thank you for this test.

That's some good educational content.

I will now store my motor oil upside down.

Sean Connery was the best by far. Engine oil is endlessly facanating and often overlooked . Great videos. Keep up the work cheers 👍 what about look a oils used in a F1 engine ?

Great job

IN terms of old motor oil being bad for the engine, it still might have a good use in terms of using the old/expired oil on garden hand tool wooden handlers. For example using the old oil to preserver wooden handles of shovels, rakes, picks etc. or using the old/expired oil to preserver wood fences. I heard this from Google and from YouTune videos. It actually works and it a good cost effective alternative. By the way, great work with your video and tests... keep up the great work mate!

I just remembered shaking my oil bottles when I was young… someone must have told me to do that 🤔

Excellent video! Love it! I would love to see how Amsoil gear oil does on the foam test😊

Love your need to know and learn.

That's a very cool test of all the oils, especially the old Mobil 1. Now, if only we could see which one of the new oils today, from each manufacture would foam up the least, that might cause a major argument on whos the best, Like Shell Rotella vs Mobil Delvac vs etc for gas or Diesel engines.

Connery for sure. The Bond reference earned a like. Could've taken them to a paint company and had the mechanically shaken. Way easier and better mixing.

Sean Connery because he was a man's man type of James Bond. No sliding down hills on a Cello. Glad you sent these off for proper analysis.

Much appreciated!

I hung onto a quart of Castrol Hypoy C 90 weight Gear oil since the the 1980's. Ya, good thing I put it in my washing machine gear case about 20 years ago. Worked good even to this day. Still have an inch or so left in the container. I will try and get some foam going with it.