Precisely why I bought it last week Not regretting it in the slightest, DOOD! XD (I caught a Prinny reference and LOVED IT)

Yeah but not everything Is complexity. The game Also has the characteristic NIS bloat.

Fully agree

This is an old comment but play Refrain if you haven’t yet. It is scores better than Galleria in every way

People still read IGN?

IGN... cod 99/10 other games 5/10 rpg/dungeon 0/10 ez review, they can literally copy the vote and post every year the same review just like cod

IGN is the poser side of gaming, besides it would be pretty demanding for they understand the mechanics and make a full playthrough in order to make a decent review.

Hundred knight was great, hundred knight 2 was less so. Much less.

@@airiakizuki5592 i starting to see that. I started it no long ago....and so far story seems lack luster also game play seem far easier

I was unfortunate enough to buy the PS3 version, never could get myself to finish it thanks to the crashes

@@LapanNaxela well upgrade to the ps4 version....it works fine and is on sale now and then on the store. Its bloody good.

Keith Lavelle I refuse to buy the same game twice and reward terrible quality control. Not to mention i don't own a ps4 anyways.

Its has grinding. But its not really that painful. Its system are not far from disgaea, being evilities are skill, and transfer soul being reincarnation. And you good to go by only 1-3 reincarnation. But it can really cheese the leveling too But the system is way more complex than disgaea.

I know how you feel like what the hell I have to do all of this stuff and I do like a challenge but damn my brain😆.

I mean when you actually play those games you gradually get into the mechanics and adjust. Chances are you can easily finish the game by winging it (if youve played games with lots of mechanics before). Usually by the end of the first playthrough you have a good grasp of the mechanics, combinations and realise how much easier the game would be if you knew what you were doing from the beginning, which usually leads to your second playthrough on harder difficulty trying to min max or find that one super op combo. But yeah being frontloaded with all that info from the beginning is kinda overwhelming for most people. I personally enjoy it cause i can already discern some stuff that will save me a lot of mistakes early. That being said i think NIS games do a good job of explaining a lot of basic mechanics but also hinting at some more obscure ones without spoiling them so it shouldnt be too hard getting into it. It seems bring a tad more rpg feel to the classic dungeon crawler and the mechanics seem interesting rather than just tedious for no reason. That combined with NIS story, this seems like its gonna be one of those game youre skeptical when you go in but very glad you gave it a chance once youve finished it.

Complicated? I'm 60 hours in and haven't came across anything not straightforward. Game is rather simple.

@@airiakizuki5592 There are deff some obtuse things, like inner and outer natures, rapport (took me an obnoxious amount of time to start using Perfume). And speaking of using items, the fact that over half of items you can use in combat are seemingly useless (and actually meant for disassembling)

My head is already hurting from it XD

@@BNik92 Inner natures are large or engirely pointless, outer natures are very straightforward, Rapport builds up naturally (or through items) and is anything but obtuse. The fact that the in-battle item tab lets you use anything from the consumable tab is really weird though. I wonder if there's some sort of scrapped hunger mechanic or if feeding pointless food actually raises rapport despite the game saying nothing about it. Either way it's pretty weird and definitely a good point.

Fully agree, starter Go, DOOD! XD (D6 wishlisted ON DAY ONE!)

You can switch to easy from the central hub of the game at pretty much any time.

I got the first 3DS one as well as the DS ones Hopefully I can get the rest...

How can you even possibly like the story after it goes off the rails and says fuck you to everything prior?

The prinny plush is a must dood.

I had to put Kiwami 2 on hold for a while to play this and finish it in time for review. Back at kiwami 2 now though and so happy about it! Loving the game!

The game is good before the 40 hour mark, but it becomes great after it. Similar to how Xenoblade 2 worked. That game didn't become great until 30 hours in. Prior to that it's just alright. Some RPGs take a long time to set up everything they need to have an impactful final arc, but it's usually worth it.

I've played Dungeon Travelers 2 haha. Not a bad game by any means, but I won't lie I did find it TOO grind heavy for my tastes. The tedium killed a lot of it for me, as did the 1-way doors and stuff, but the art saved it in many regards haha. My version of the game even came with a mini calendar with a lot of the games art in it. Love having it around. As per the need to grind, I didn't have to do too much. The game has this cool system where you can stockpile exp. At the end of every battle you spend 1 reinforcement point to stockpile the EXP. The more you do this the more you build an EXP multiplier. After around 20 battles you hit the multiplier cap of x2.99. It really helps level you up when you can get nearly 3x the experience you're supposed to. The catch is that you don't keep any experience while you stockpile, and if you get gameover or leave the dungeon without cashing in your stockpile you lose it all and all your time building it goes to waste.

Tarks Gauntlet With all the new games coming out (already preloaded VC4 + the new ones just announced on the Nintendo Direct), I was ready to pick this up once it goes on sale. Now I may really have to pick it up Day 1. Y U DO DIS BRUH??!! Haha kidding aside, thank you for the response. Put this under your belt. They got a +1 purchase because of this channel. Keep it up!

Yes.

@@neilhoughton5471 thx fam

So I just turned on my switch to check. On ps4, in the options menu you can chose to enable/disable touchpad shortcuts. On the switch where that option would be has been left blank with no substitute. It's always possible they can patch it in though. That said, there's shortcuts for most menus anyway by pushing "R+D-pad direction," it's just a little more cumbersome and hard to use because the R-button is also mapped to your field skills as "R+A/B/X/or Y." I had a tough time adjusting to using R for 8 different shortcuts but it's not like it can't be done.

Told a friend I wanted this for my birthday next week, he's gonna order it soon so I'll finally get to play it!

Have you checked out Undernauts Labyrinth of Yomi yet? Same studio that made Stranger of Sword city. It's available on basically everything and quite often on sale for as little as 20 bucks (Canadian)

@@TarksGauntlet I had not - looked it up just now and damn that's some impressive as hell art, actually looks even more up my alley than this one! Currently it's 50 bucks over where I live, but I'll keep an eye on it and give it a shot next sale, thanks for the recommendation!

@@TarksGauntlet To impose a completely unrequested update here real quick - actually managed to snag Undernauts for cheap yesterday and wanted to repeat my thanks for the recommendation. Hell of a game with one hell of a fantastic visual style, love it so far.

@@HansAlRachid Glad to hear it! My copy only just arrived. Hopefully I can get to it sooner rather than later as well!

I don't personally because I have a hard-on for horror in general, but a friend I saw had reviewed the japanese launches of both games and they edged it out just above MS. They gave this game a 9 where they gave MS an 8.6. While this game is more mechanically in-depth I think the lighter approach of MS and the world designs just work better. That said this game probably has the more rewarding dynamics between the main characters, so it probably depends on what you're looking for more.

Towards the end I felt it got a bit overwhelming. Most of the game you can get by with just about any arrangement of covens and so I never felt the need to improve what I was already using. Despite not feeling the need to at the time though, I should have done it anyway as it's only logical. Had I realized sooner how valuable good covens would be towards the end I would have started using them as I acquired them, to level them up and lower their reinforcement cost. So while I did definitely feel some frustration in the very-late game stages it's kind of my own fault for not affording certain things the attention I probably should have.

@@TarksGauntlet so what you're saying is if a coven looks to be of use, but say the cost to use it is a bit high, it is worth using it as it'll pay off in the late game?

Yeah. The more you use a coven the cheaper it becomes to use. If you can use really good covens and keep most of your reinforcement points then you can use your left over reinforcement points to boost your attack and defense power during battles. Those boosts can go a long way.

@@TarksGauntlet right. Well just one last thing. Any tips for this game? Like would you say some classes are only good for so long before a new class comes that can do what the last class does but better.

I wouldn't worry too much about classes. You'll have 6 puppets in no time which means you can have at least 1 of each class in your party almost immediately. That said, when I was given a review code for the game NISA actually sent a review guide PDF full of "Helpful" hints for new players. I didn't look at it until I actually beat the game and set out to put my review together so it's not like it's necessary to follow their hints, but I'm gonna copy and paste a couple of their hints here. Sorry if this ends up looking like an essay: "Pay close attention to the options when creating a character. These options affect their initial strength and how they will grow over the course of the game. Preferred Stat Growth influences whether your character grows as a specialist or as a jack-of-all-trades. For offensive characters, use Moon stance. For tank characters (a.k.a. Peer Fortress), use Sun stance for the defense boost and taunting. Skill Selection allows you to pick ANY of a class’s skills to give your character upon creation. This includes their late level/ultimate skills. ◆With regard to Skill Selection, some of the best skills to have a character take are: Aster Knight: Armor-Piercing Shinobushi: Sword Master (Improves Dual Wielding) Theatrical Star: Anti-Donum Heresy Marginal Maze: Eclipse Peer Fortress: Unbreakable (AWESOME flat buff to guard) Mad Raptor: Crossbow Salvo (NO CONTEST) ◆The Bell and Scythe type weapons can attack whole groups of enemies instead of a single target. This makes Theatrical Star characters especially useful at the start of the game. Marginal Maze characters require a lot of donum, which is not abundant at the start of the game. This makes Marginal Maze characters useful later in the game." Hopefully that helps. The PDF is 15 pages. 3 pages are early-game hints. This was page 1, and the one I'd argue is most useful.

Something similar happened to me, but I eventually realized I was fighting an optional boss way too early haha.

Which one? I fought the Overlord in dungeon 5 way too early as well.

Armor actually does upgrade just as good as weapons in synthesis but only body armor. Helms and shoes suck.

I think his name was Pecorino... But that sounds distinctly like a monster hunter creature. Either way, the giant pumpkin looking asshole. I would hold out against him well for a while but could never get him to red before he'd start wiping me out.

Lol I freaking lucky when I have 2 avoid tanks in my team that moment. Just attack then heal if get hit. Took me about 50+ turns to kill her.

I never got to look at the PC version but i feel that if they're not on par than they'll far surpass them haha. No way they will be worse. As this game only released in japanese before I couldn't find any guides and gameplay of the japanese version is sparse online but I did end up looking some of it up. When the game comes out I imagine help resources will be a lot more accessible.

Oh yeah! I forgot that little caveat: that the game isn't OUT yet lol. You're SO lucky hehe. I'm also happy to see games like Mary Skelter Nightmares (and others) coming out on PC these days too! like....i own a lot of j-rpgs for my ps vita/tv, but to have them on PC means (hopefully) more people will notice them, and devs will be like "Hey, we're making more $ off these games, let's make more of them!" (hopefully they won't fall into the Assassin's Creed type of game trap though.....)

Broad question haha. I absolutely love Xenoblade chronicles. One of my favorite JRPG's of the last 10 years. That said, designs like this certainly won't work in everything. Mobile game presentation is typically a big no for me, but MMO mechanics can be used well.

Thanks for answering. the presentation makes me cringe. whenever i see gameplay like this i always think there is too much on screen. A sort of overdose, something that is digestable if you are playing for 10 minutes while commuting but doesnt feel right when playing an rpg for several hours. I would also say that its hard for younger players to go from this to older, much simpler rpgs. Not only they have to face the "bad" graphics" but the games will feel empty and basic.

It's nothing insane really. Just a few rather revealing outfits. Most of them are on your puppets and you can choose to use other outfits if you want, but there are a few bosses here and there that show enough to warrant the warning for people who are sensitive to that sort of thing. Just enough to get the M rating I think.

LOVE THIS XD

I'd rate this as being up there with the best Etrian games.

KGhaleon well let me ask this. How much freedom do you actually have in your party creation? Can I make a healer class look at their skills and say "you know what, I'm gunna make this guy focus on dealing paralysis, and blind most of the time while making their cure capabilities a secondary thing." Or say I see a tank class and notice it has a lot of offensive skills that could potentially make them a power house. Could I build them in that way? Or are the healers only gunna learn healing skills and that's it. And a tank is just a tank. I know in Etrian odyssey you don't make a class do the secondary thing as the main thing often. But the fact it's an option and you can do some crazy and fun things like that is why I love Etrian odyssey. It's not just the dungeon crawling and drawing your own map is nice, but it's not the main appeal for me either. It's the class freedom. And from what I seen so far. Just like all of NIS's other games. It's all about making it as complex as possible. And while I like it with disgaea, It's kind of a major turn off in this style of game for me. The demo is there but I'm not sure I want to try it right now.

There's a wide range of classes from tanks to high damage attackers to magic DMP classes. The skills or magic that you can use depends on the coven you select(and can change anytime). I have a couple of tanks in my party that start battles by aggroing enemies, then I have ninjas and knights that deal big damage, a healer that also buffs, and then I've got my magic spell casters in the far back. I can set various formations and you get bonuses depending on your layout.

I mean, there's no "Good answer" exactly. But a number of stuff to look into. -Some classes naturally have less defense, so try some bulkier characters. -Look into the perks of some different covens. -Use the cauldron to craft new armor. If it's been a while this can make a huge difference.

@@TarksGauntlet Yea I have been very trolled with the cost of repairing.. thankyou

@@TarksGauntlet btw do you think keep soul transfering over over again affect stats?

From what I recall (Its been a little bit since I played now) soul transferring allows stats to scale a bit steeper, and you get to mix-and-match skills from different classes. I'd definitely recommend doing it, as it's the only way to build the most powerful units, but be careful about doing too many characters at once or the grind back up to a decent level will be brutal. That said, you could always do what I done when I needed to grind. Drop the game to easy until the grind is over. You get the same amount of XP either way.

@@TarksGauntlet hi I wanted to ask you.. Is it transfer soul we should wait until lv 99 or just lv 84 is enough since we got same skill transfer

Man, it's 4am where I live! Surprised anybody I know is even awake now haha. Always love having you around Reggie!

First time, huh? XD

I've got some good time into this and unless u overlevel urself they have some pretty dangerous mobs that u can run into..

There's a reaper clone if you get to much Mana btw. Functions the same as the Persona 3 one did.

I played the game. At the beginning things can become overwhelming but you can finish it without bothering to things like synthesis. I haven't done it either. The endgame is challenging but like the reviewer says, switching to easy mode does not punish you. A good idea is to make characters from walkthrough videos. Thetwitgamer made a good party with powerful attack magic and good defense. After a good amount of playing you learn a lot of things by yourself.

the game is way too long to spend 20 hours of it in a menu