City Fan Claims Pep Is A Better Manager Than Sir Alex Ferguson

City Fan Claims Pep Is A Better Manager Than Sir Alex Ferguson | Agree To Disagree |

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11 ай бұрын

In this FA Cup Final special episode of Agree To Disagree, Man City fan Lawrence 'Buvey' Bury tells Man United fan Adam McKola why he thinks Pep Guardiola is a better manager than Sir Alex Ferguson ever was.
The rivals debate the biggest arguments between the two clubs ahead of the first ever Manchester derby FA Cup Final, including:
- Which team will lift the trophy?
- Will United be City's biggest Premier League title challengers next season?
- Would any United players make City's starting XI?
01:10 No United Players Would Get Into City's Starting XI
03:37 City Will Never Be As Big A Club As United
05:53 Pep Guardiola Is A Better Manager Than Sir Alex Ferguson
09:41 United Will Be City's Biggest Title Challengers Next Season
11:38 City Will Win The Champions League Before United Win Their Next PL Title
13:52 This City Side Is The Best In Premier League History
16:09 Winning The FA Cup Is No Longer A Major Achievement For a Big 6 Club
16:50 Both FA Cup Semi-Finals Should Not Be Played At Wembley
18:00 United Will Win The FA Cup This Season
19:05 City Will Win The Treble This Season
Thanks to Lawrence and Adam for taking part:
Lawrence: @Buvey
Adam: @AdamMcKola
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@LADbible 11 ай бұрын

Thanks to Lawrence and Adam for taking part: Lawrence: youtube.com/@Buvey Adam: youtube.com/@AdamMcKola

@bigpoppaHH69 11 ай бұрын

Lawrence 😂

@jmy871 11 ай бұрын

Man City fans have no logic of football at all

@victoroneill7193 11 ай бұрын

@@bigpoppaHH69 😂😂

@rohitgt8125 11 ай бұрын

😂🎉

@sexybeast4320 11 ай бұрын

@@bigpoppaHH69 that's his name...

@I.ate.kneegrows 11 ай бұрын

“marcus rashford would get in” “yeah he’d get in the stadium”😂😂😂

@Nelson890 11 ай бұрын

Southgate picked Bambi over Rashford in the World cup and France bummed us. The French were scared of Rashford and didn't want him to play. But Southgate played favourites with Bambi becuse he plays for City. saying Bambi is better is just the strongest bias I've ever seen and quite embarrassing really😂 the proof is there.

@I.ate.kneegrows 11 ай бұрын

@@Nelson890 im a lfc fan but sounds like city or this “bambi” fella live in ur head rent free

@warcriment7298 10 ай бұрын

Casemiro would get in easily he is too good to leave out of a squad. (actually, never mind he just doesn't fit in the city squad)

@MM-jc7uv 10 ай бұрын

@@warcriment7298 you could slot Casemiro in any team in the world and he would start. Lisandro could also get in that City team

@Benbeckmann3739 7 ай бұрын

@@MM-jc7uv over who because Rodri is the best CDM itw at the moment and there's no way Martinez is getting even in our u-23's

@TheTaha5 11 ай бұрын

“Casemiro has more Champions League than your club.” He’s won more Champions leagues than your club too Adam lad

@Johndoe-gf7eu 11 ай бұрын

But he plays for our club. You really thought you did something 😂

@Johndoe-gf7eu 11 ай бұрын

Paul scholes and ryan giggs have more premier leagues than your club, any rebuttal to that? Just admit you’re way smaller and are victims

@seventeenseconds1698 11 ай бұрын

⁠@@Johndoe-gf7eu You know it’s funny, every single United fan I’ve spoken to about the cup final tomorrow have been more focused on the fact that they can stop City winning the treble rather than thinking about the jubilation of winning it themselves. You can call City smaller all you want, it’s quite clear that they’ve built a club now that can fight United toe to toe in every single department, both in a performance-based and commercial sense. There’s no reason why City can’t be the bigger club in ten years time if they continue on the trajectory they are currently.

@bluemoon1716 11 ай бұрын

@@Johndoe-gf7eu united fans trying to claim casemiro's achievements as their own is pathetic

@Jon14722 11 ай бұрын

@@seventeenseconds1698 Indeed bro, who is going to contest Man City in the next 5 years?

@AdamMcKola 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for having me, even if I had to sit opposite Buvey! 😂

@ManchesterUtdz 11 ай бұрын

Glory glory Man Utd

@Anthony-pw5gu 11 ай бұрын

Deluded rag

@spooked2104 11 ай бұрын

Blud you literally sit next to him AND rory

@LADbible 11 ай бұрын

🤝 look forward to the next one!

@markadams3423 11 ай бұрын

You fail every time to interject and put forth the best argument in these debates.

@newgorkcity 11 ай бұрын

This was surprisingly civil and constructive!! Great chemistry between these two!

@adambrady9480 11 ай бұрын

They have a podcast together hence the civil conversation, this would have been a lot more heated if they hadn’t a friendship already

@kefkatruman 11 ай бұрын

Lmao LADbible are trash for not saying they work together in The Club

@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 11 ай бұрын

UEFA ban City,show 0 Proof Howard Webb named Chief Referee When City go after Utd 3peat Rashford Offside allowed Vs City Establishment to let City win Treble,Establishment to VARcically rob City of Treble?🤔

@frankierc2920 11 ай бұрын

Yeah if you liked this - go watch the club

@Goffam 11 ай бұрын

They should start a podcast

@adityatiwary2221 11 ай бұрын

"He'd get in the stadium" 😂😂

@MoejiiOsmanTV 11 ай бұрын

Savage..dunno what adám was thinking

@faradorian3307 11 ай бұрын

The banter between Buvey and Adam is just iconic

@bluepandasquad 11 ай бұрын

"Messi's never been at the same level since Guardiola left" Lol my man Buvey has $hit in his brains!

@hooky17 11 ай бұрын

Both are obviously biased but Buvey talks utter nonsense more often than not. Loves to stir the pot

@Jack-di4ox 11 ай бұрын

@@hooky17 your deffo a united fan

@GuinessOriginal 11 ай бұрын

It’s difficult to be more of a clown than Buvey but somehow Adam manages it

@bluepandasquad 11 ай бұрын

@@GuinessOriginal Nope, what did McKola say that was wrong?

@fivestarman5130 11 ай бұрын

I remember when Buvey was just the windup merchant guest on the Kick Off and to see him go from that to being on the Overlap and Ladbible in the space of a year is a very impressive achievement. Fair play to him

@Yasser-hy8tn 11 ай бұрын

hes still just a windup merchant. I doubt he believes half the things he says. A master of his trade

@bottlefc336 11 ай бұрын

@@Yasser-hy8tn hey at least he’s funny 🤣

@ramprasad_v 11 ай бұрын

Buvey is an original from 90min Football

@tbus 11 ай бұрын

@@ramprasad_vI used to hate him on 90 min, before I understood what he’s about. He’s actually great though

@DirtyJamesUK 11 ай бұрын

Yeah I didn't like him, but now I think he's alright.

@rupertlowenstein3683 11 ай бұрын

I have missed these fan debates so much!! Buvey and Adam great combo as always😅

@lewisjh8962 11 ай бұрын

What Ferguson did at Aberdeen is bigger than anything he did at Manchester United. To dethrone Rangers and Celtic is something that has not been done since, not to mention winning the cup winners cup, being the last club to beat Real Madrid in a European final.

@jefferytay3225 11 ай бұрын

So he did it once, ONCE and that's unbelievable? Roberto Di Matteo won the champions league as a manager. Is he unbelievable too?

@luminaryofthestars2141 11 ай бұрын

@@jefferytay3225yes

@samuelkoomson6017 11 ай бұрын

Cup winners cup=Europa cup

@jefferytay3225 11 ай бұрын

@@luminaryofthestars2141 great! Happy to hear your so easily satisfied. Enjoy being mediocre for the rest of your life! Loads of love bro

@luminaryofthestars2141 11 ай бұрын

@@jefferytay3225 thanks homie❤

@robbpatterson6796 11 ай бұрын

Damn, this was a good debate. I wish all fans were this open and honest. Yes, there were some bias in their remarks but on the whole; neither seemed deluded and a really good discussion with great points on both sides. Fair play to both

@JW-be8wf 11 ай бұрын

"They will not remember us for the trophies, but the way we played." - Pep after winning the 2011 Champions League Final.

@pendantcetemps...1016 11 ай бұрын

he was right. the 2011 final his a reference in terms of how football is supposed to be played

@MoejiiOsmanTV 11 ай бұрын

Litterally my Nan could've won with that barca side, he needs money to succeed period he cannot build a team like great managers a la fergie, Wenger, klopp, mourinho PERIOD

@euanparker2534 11 ай бұрын

@@MoejiiOsmanTV Hence why Barcelona didn't win for years after Pep left.

@JW-be8wf 11 ай бұрын

@@MoejiiOsmanTV Its not that he won it all. He upended the game completely while winning it all. Pep is to football what IPhone is to mobile phones. Mobile phones exist in two distinct eras, before and after IPhone. Similarly football exists in 2 distinct eras, Before Pep's Barca and after Pep's Barca. Pep's influence on the game is global. From Sunday League to Premier League, from Under 7 to Over 65, from North Pole to South Pole, they are all trying to emulate Pep's style and philosophy. This level of impact makes him sit on the same table as Arrigo Sacchi, Johan Cryuff, Rinus Michels and Herbert Chapman and all. There is a winner for every competition every year. But those who change the game come once a decade.... if it is a good decade. That is what Pep is.

@shahzadirani 11 ай бұрын

Yes, we remember that great Barcelona side for winning those 2 UCLs only thanks to the help of the referees. Without the help of the refs, Pep would have 0 UCLs (2009 Chelsea scandal and 2011 Arsenal scandal).

@mariarusso2531 11 ай бұрын

I totally love this format! Lowkey reminds me of little banter debates I used to have with my City ex back in the days, as a die hard United fan. Objectivity seldom left the room hahah! Have a good derby everyone

@TheNabankur 11 ай бұрын

Saying "Messi has not been at the same level since Guardiola left Barcelona" is laughable. Messi has won a champions league with Barcelona under Luis Enrique and has won copa america, finalissima and a world cup under Lionel Scaloni and different teams. He is the most talented player I have seen in my life.

@pratyakshyaghimire3117 11 ай бұрын

agree everything but edit out that finalissima 😏😏

@David-qy7sb 11 ай бұрын

If Pep continued his manager job at Barcelona, Messi would have won more.

@LAGxZombified 10 ай бұрын

Prime Messi was during pep so…?

@patrickfoster_media5451 10 ай бұрын

@@David-qy7sb As a lifelong Barca fan, this is sadly true

@cuck1ngfunt 10 ай бұрын

@@LAGxZombifiedDebatable. Prime goalscoring Messi, but he’s become a better playmaker post Pep.

@antunmandic3396 11 ай бұрын

2:13 "He's got more champions leagues than your club", well he has more UCL than his club also 😂😂

@polopuik9198 11 ай бұрын

It's funny how they try to say that Pep only wins through his players like Messi or the splendid midfield. A quick reminder: The season prior were third, haven't won anything in three years, Messi also was plagued with injuries. Xavi and Iniesta didn't work on the pitch together and so more. Pep makes the best out of their players, we judge their work with our perception when we should do it with the perception at the time, for example Iniesta in the 2008 Ballon d'or was nomination only had 3 Barcelona players, Eto'o, Messi, and Xavi (no Iniesta), or his appointment was very controversional, the majority here wanted Jose Mourinho, and the press went at him like crazy, Guardiola also took with him a player he coached in the third division to make competence to Yaya Toure whose position was indisputed, the name of the player was Sergio Busquets.

@shahzadirani 11 ай бұрын

LOL you act like that Barcelona team were like the Aberdeen team or United team that did NOT win any title for 20 years. The fact is while Barcelona came third before Pep joined, that same team still reached the UCL semi-final. That same team of players he inherited were already ELITE WINNERS (Puyol Xavi Valdes Eto'o Iniesta Messi Marquez had all won the UCL with Barcelona 2 years before Pep). Puyol Iniesta Xavi Valdes also won the Euro 2008 with Spain a month before Pep took over. So these players were already ELITE WINNERS. Barcelona media is known to blow things out of proportion BUT All Pep did was sell Ronaldinho and Deco and promoted Busquets. That's not the same as re-building an entire dynasty at Aberdeen and Man United.

@polopuik9198 11 ай бұрын

@@shahzadirani They were as elite players as you could find in any top team, my point is what he did was enhance what he previously had, just as I think players like Gundogan, Stones, Cancelo etc... may never achieved the heights they reached, same as Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Messi (keeping the distance of course). Every time someone talks about Pep's Barça they put all the merit on the players that formed the team, but what I want to pount out is that the brilliance of the player was in part also thanks to the sistem Pep made them play in. I've seen countless bad teams formed of excellent players, but never an excellent team conformed of bad players, a good coach can create a great team that will lead to great players be created.

@Quan367 11 ай бұрын

Facts and the crazy thing is Barca haven’t been as dominant since he left. Yes they won a treble again in 2015 but they had to use the individual brilliance of the best front trio (MSN) to achieve that. And seasons prior winning that and teams were somewhat able to neutralize them by being really defensive and isolating them they weren’t able to build on that treble

@Quan367 11 ай бұрын

So are we really going to credit the players more than pep ?

@smashdemo6532 11 ай бұрын

Buvy said "bang average he is 88th minute player"😂😂😂

@lawrenceduwairi1576 11 ай бұрын

It’s a myth to say that pep walked in to the greatest Barca side ever when the season before he took over, Barca were third and 18 points behind Madrid. Underperforming not winning anything in two seasons prior to pep coming in

@guilhermevieira6010 11 ай бұрын

That team had already won the ucl, messi was already a top 3 player and players like xavi, iniesta, etoo... were already in their prime, so yes, he walked into the greatest group of players Barça ever had.

@maherzain434 11 ай бұрын

Cause madrid is the only real threat to the title in that 2 team league

@sanjaydhirwan791 11 ай бұрын

same team which had won the league and champions league couple of years back? if I recall there were huge injury issues with that team before Pep took over!

@madtitan-bringerofgenocide 11 ай бұрын

@@guilhermevieira6010 udk football kid

@JustStuey 11 ай бұрын

They won a Treble 2015 when he wasn't there. He was lucky

@theplugcpt5205 11 ай бұрын

Salute to LADbible, @adammckola big up The Club, we seen the quality of the banter and actual football talks these two have between em.. Honestly love Buvey his quirky BS as a city fan is funny to watch but at the end he is honest even when it comes to United.. Adam has really grown into a great host and conversationalist with Buvey and Rory.. Love and Peace on your journey lads all the way from Cape Town South Africa.

@BanTaaax 11 ай бұрын

Am I the only person who is buzzin when I see that Gary posts a new video?! Another great video, thanks for sharing your knowledge!!

@Onslaught17 11 ай бұрын

Two actual mates, on opposite sides of the Manchester debate. One of the better episodes.

@Classicvilllas 10 ай бұрын

A man from Bristol and a man from Birmingham put up as the spokespeople as the clubs fans to debate Manchester United and Manchester City really does some their fan bases 😂

@davidsavage7817 11 ай бұрын

Love it when one of them is real and doesn't just back their club and sees facts

@anundyingfire 11 ай бұрын

People ALWAYS forget the 3 foreigners rule on English clubs in the 90's. That and the ban of English teams in Europe for a few seasons hindered United massively.

@arizibra921 11 ай бұрын

the 99 United team and this current man city team both have 7 englishmen in the squad

@RafPos13 10 ай бұрын

It hindered Liverpool more than Man Utd, in a way it actually helped Man Utd cause Liverpool stop dominating and they came up

@MCFCReacts 26 күн бұрын

Stam Yorke Johnsen Schmeichel Blomqvist That’s 5 non British players

@kaimorris2970 11 ай бұрын

Actually quite good , and tbf the pep being better than sir alex is getting stronger

@choughed3072 11 ай бұрын

Ferguson took pep to dinner years ago in an attempt to convince him to take over man united after he left in 2013, pep respectfully declined as he knew he would always be in sir Alex's shadow and wanted to create his own legacy. Peps the best manager of his generation by far but better than ferguson overall nah, freguson built successful teams time and time again using a lot of below par players.

@jph2856 11 ай бұрын

i dont think so pep asked the accountants

@sweenbean18 11 ай бұрын

below par players? Rooney, Van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo, Keane, Beckham, Schmeichel and Scholes don't sound like below par, just to name a few

@wedzistar1 11 ай бұрын

Fergie had referees on texting terms. They helped him by not giving penalties against United and gave spurious penalties against rivals like Arsenal. When Moyes took over one referee gave three penalties against United at home and one referee remarked that would never have happened during Fergie's time. United was the only team which could afford better players . Pep is better and will surpass Fergie by the time he retires

@bigshackfan9786 11 ай бұрын

tactically i think no one is better than pep in this generation, hes just a genius.

@guilhermevieira6010 11 ай бұрын

@@sweenbean18 oshea, cleverly, anderson, fltecher, jones, smalling...

@fifabros8044 8 ай бұрын

Ferguson did it with 7 academy lads and spent barely any money

@shashankkosuri1668 11 ай бұрын

Wish I had the same confidence as Buvey for the way he answers every question 🤣🤣🤣

@twistedsparky06 11 ай бұрын

This is about the forth time in as many months this question has been debated. For me though its always sir Alex. What he did at Aberdeen was phenomenal, after he left the have not done anything. He made UTD a powerhouse again and sustained that for so long. Again when he left that last title winning team struggled. Pep is also great and has taken his team and the game to another level, but for me its just not quite the same. Not much in it though, both amazing.

@Munchman1 11 ай бұрын

Could say that Peps influence is greater. There's a reason that Spain won World Cup and Euros when he managed barcelona, Germany won World Cup when he managed there and England have done alot better since he's been here. And the teams he managed continued to win after he was there. There's alot to say there about his influence

@jamestome7788 11 ай бұрын

@@Munchman1 tbh it's both Pep and Klopp made England played better, they brought a new way of doing football in the country

@amroge8703 11 ай бұрын

@@Munchman1, nah without Fergie the premier league is not the richest and most popular league in the world

@mss111 11 ай бұрын

@@amroge8703 exactly without united or maybe Liverpool the premier league wouldn't have been as big as it is today

@tukiran3953 10 ай бұрын

Claudio Ranieri with leicester more phenomenal than SAF Aberdeen

@mesutcubuk 11 ай бұрын

The only arguement we agree on that Ferguson is a better ''PREMIER LEAGUE'' manager. Pep is already left him behind in his 4th season bro. You guys keep saying farmers league check what premier league was back then. He created the greatest team ever. Period. Pep above all.

@Johndoe-gf7eu 11 ай бұрын

How has he left ferguson behind, he still needs to win 8 more titles to even match fergusons 13 😂also ferguson is the most successful manager of all time. Pep is about 20 trophies off him. Cry more and cope

@swatik2509 11 ай бұрын

@@Johndoe-gf7eu it's not about if pep would win but more about if he wants to win😂 Pep would crash fergie's record if he decided to stay without any doubt. But if he wants to go somewhere else then SAF will be saved😅

@truenoae8689 7 ай бұрын

@@Johndoe-gf7eupep has nearly as many trophies and already more CLs and more trebles in like half the seasons. He's sooooo clear. Fergie took like 100 years to win that lmao

@BenjiBanks98 11 ай бұрын

This current City team is the best team ive ever seen play. If we win the treble itll fuel the derby given they will be the only 2 teams to win the treble. Also a reminder when Pep came to the league he changed English football. Made every team reevaluate their style of play

@colinedelman6392 11 ай бұрын

I’m still taking 20/21.. if Pep didn’t mess up the UCL final, they’d be remembered as one of the greatest team ever

@MoejiiOsmanTV 11 ай бұрын

Bcuz ur young. The 2005 AC milan squad that Liverpool somehow beat in Istanbul was arguable the greatest club side ever assembled world class international in ever position r, only squad comparable to the greatest club side ever which was 2011 barcelona..City don't have world class internationals in every position they just have 2 squads that can rotate unlike everyone else in the epl bcuz of money and are nowhere near those two squads

@MoejiiOsmanTV 11 ай бұрын

I'm not a united fan but effing Clough changed English football, shankly changed English football, MOURINHO AND WENGER CHANGED ENGLISH FOOTBALL...FOR GOODNESS SAKES EVERY TEAM IN THE EPL COPIED KLOPPS pressing counter attack once he arrived and dismantled teams with shite squads his first year..pep and city are robotic and Boeing to watch as a neutral nobody I've seen in n the league tries to play like them bcuz u need a ridiculous ammount of patience and a kdb like player to achieve it where as klopp philosophy can be done by anyone same with mourinho defensive style of play with discipline

@Ryanshaw6778 11 ай бұрын

2015 barca would smoke this city team

@eddiejamison 11 ай бұрын

Respect here is palpable. Hopefully the fans on Saturday behave as respectfully as these two.

@jaer8395 11 ай бұрын

Pep completely outplayed SAF's Manchester United in 2 champions league finals, one of which had SAF shaking and trembling his hands. To get a manager to do that, is practically unheard of. Considering how dominant Pep's Barcelona was, Pep is definitely a better manager than SAF.

@f5anabolic 11 ай бұрын

Yes but it is must be said that Messi made SAF tremble not Pep 😅 The Greatest Player Of All Time can do that to a man.

@adamstudley8832 11 ай бұрын

Beating someone in two one off games isn't proof of anything. If Sir Alex was managing today he would evolve and find a way to overcome City. He did it every time someone turned up and thought they were special.

@DoyleArmstrong41 10 ай бұрын

Barca shouldn't of even been in that 2009 final, if it hadn't of been for a corrupt bribed ref then it would of been chelsea in that final, how pep kept a straight face when being interviewed after I will never know

@2g772 10 ай бұрын

@@adamstudley8832 Admit it lmao pep smoked him twice then the aguerooooooo lmao he had him on strings snap out of ur delusion 😭

@adamstudley8832 10 ай бұрын

@@2g772 Pep wasn't the City manager the season you're talking about you absolute cretin

@endlessmotion2255 11 ай бұрын

I'm a Utd fan and can admit Pep's Barca sides are the best club sides I've ever seen. Man City are a different beast. They're a machine that's been designed from the ground up with infinite funds to to have the infrastructure, recruitment, backroom staff and coaches at a level where they're capable of hitting 100 points a season. It's hugely impressive how they play and what they've done the past few years in particular but they're setup to do just that and it should be expected. That's why IF they complete the treble it's not going to be anywhere near as impressive as when Utd did it. Nobody was expecting us to have an exceptional season, we had a bunch of homegrown talent and didn't have a £100m striker, £100m winger etc. City should have won the CL a few times already and it's just not going to be as impressive if they do the treble. They might be a better side than our 99 team but it won't be as much of an achievement, how can it be when City have such an expensive squad and everything in place to allow them to compete year after year with no need to have a year or two out whilst they rebuild?

@jasonazyu9677 11 ай бұрын

I hear you...but money wise....UTD are probably closest to city...you guys can also get whichever striker you want....sooo many wasted talents. Look at their most important players like Gundo, kdb etc...none of them were ridiculous fees. They spend their funds very well. Almost no flops. Sooo...United fukd up if you ask me. Bit similar to Chelsea. Clubs like Ars and Liverpool have really done well with their limited funds.

@jagjit4001 11 ай бұрын

Doesnt matter its still a treble, but no one can go a prem season unbeaten apert from you no who

@endlessmotion2255 11 ай бұрын

@@jagjit4001 Arsenal's invincible season is a weird one. It's cool on paper but their points total wouldn't have been enough to win the league against these Man City sides, or recent Liverpool for that matter. It's a nice thing for Arsenal fans to have but it's nothing like doing a treble. I'd rather have three major trophies and lose a few league games than obsess about not losing a league game

@endlessmotion2255 11 ай бұрын

@@jasonazyu9677 you're not wrong, Utd have spent money so, so badly for ten years now. But that's because the moron owners have no interest in running the club to be successful. You need the entire club to be setup to win from top to bottom, exactly like City have been doing. Look at Newcastle, richer than City but I doubt they'll do 100 points a season. Hated to see it but Liverpool winning the league was pretty special, yeah they spent money but they didn't have the squad depth to match City

@jasonazyu9677 11 ай бұрын

@@endlessmotion2255 Going a full season unbeaten in the League is almost impossible. The treble has been done by few teams at the top level. That is why it's is so impressive.

@shawm8306 11 ай бұрын

These two have great chemistry, should do a podcast or something together

@nikolamilivojevic6495 11 ай бұрын

A very nice debate. Good job guys

@nickthesportlover 10 ай бұрын

As a kid in Australia I remember the FA Cup being the biggest games in Football.

@rodgerpark8754 10 ай бұрын

WC and UCL is the biggest

@rafxelsierra 10 ай бұрын

“He hasn’t won a champions league without Messi.”

@hneal0140 10 ай бұрын

Whoever decided to have this debate before the city finals needs sacking

@bengoodwin4599 11 ай бұрын

Adam saying Casemiro got more ucls than City, he’s got more than united as well 🤣🤣

@kyleb7011 11 ай бұрын

He normally annoys me but he is funny Although didn’t expect him to say that the 99 team would still be better and the 08 also the fact he’s disagreeing with the treble

@Buvey 11 ай бұрын

Looking forward to us smashing Man Utd 😂 Enjoyed this thanks for having me on 👍

@honestmanutdfan603 11 ай бұрын

we are winning lad

@UltimateCarDrawer567 11 ай бұрын

Manchester is red 🔴

@UltimateCarDrawer567 11 ай бұрын

👹👹👹👹👹👹👹

@UltimateCarDrawer567 11 ай бұрын

@@honestmanutdfan603 👹👹👹👹👹

@Ebamber3 11 ай бұрын

You're about to find out that league Man Utd and cup Man Utd this season are two VERY different animals and I'm gonna enjoy watching you make excuses when we 3-1 you like we did everyone else in the FA cup 😂

@robertward6582 3 ай бұрын

Nice to see a sensible debate for a change

@williamwallace7651 11 ай бұрын

ferguson did it over thirty plus years taking three teams from nothing to great heights,often winning major honours with average teams. Peps only been managing 15. comeback in 15 plus years🤣🤣🤣🤣

@thomasgater1908 11 ай бұрын

How can you not think of a team who dominated from august to may, Liverpool done it 3 years ago 🤣

@louisdnd934 11 ай бұрын

Knowing McKola's attitude and Buvey's trolling, this was actually very nice to watch

@lumrickhiphur4972 11 ай бұрын

What a debate.. Brilliant

@Goffam 11 ай бұрын

Great chemistry between these two, they should start a podcast together

@mrbean3088 11 ай бұрын

they do called The Club

@Samireightyseven 11 ай бұрын

MrBean that’s the joke bro

@alextv293 11 ай бұрын

Why is a Bristol city fan talking about Manchester city?

@Johndoe-gf7eu 11 ай бұрын

I thought it was a devon accent at first😂😂is it bristol? 😂what a plastic. Shameless. I hope he knows city fans from manchester hate plastics😂😂

@randomcameron2161 11 ай бұрын

Pep has done it all with great teams. Fergie did the European cup winners cup with Aberdeen. Also that team that won the 20th title for Fergie wouldn't have done that with any other manager I think

@thetruth4654 11 ай бұрын

Pro’s teams outside of Bayern was not great, before Pep got there.

@bigshackfan9786 11 ай бұрын

this is stupid logic. "messi is not world class because he hasnt won anything with stoke" shut up.

@maherzain434 11 ай бұрын

Bayern barca and now man city

@seventeenseconds1698 11 ай бұрын

The great teams want him for a reason

@khudukhoduth2043 11 ай бұрын

he didnt win the European Cup he won the European Cup winners Cup, two different trophys

@DominicLittlewood 11 ай бұрын

Makes a change seeing a Southern City fan City are a better team, and have been a number of years but they just arent as glamorous in terms of the history and the culture of Man United

@Frorackous 11 ай бұрын

I would absolutely love to sit down and have a quiet pint of wine with Buvey.

@DirtyJamesUK 11 ай бұрын

I think I'll agree with Buvey here. SAF was a great manager, easily one of the greatest. But Pep has managed the best ever club team in Barca, and built the best ever EPL team in City. That's gotta mean something. SAF couldn't find a way around Barcelona using Pep's system, and there's a chance he would have felt the same playing Pep's Man City.

@Johndoe-gf7eu 11 ай бұрын

Still doesn’t change the fact that sir alex always gets voted as number 1 in all sports magazines. Even rinus michaels is better than pep😂😂cry more

@sanjaydhirwan791 11 ай бұрын

What people dont remember is the team Pep inherited was also full of world class players and with one of the GOATS! that side had won the league and CL few years ago and had talented players all around, but that being said Pep really took off with that side and made them untouchable! Sir Alex couldnt find a way around that team because that team was genuinely out of the world, with some of the best players we have seen play the game,

@Johndoe-gf7eu 11 ай бұрын

Mourinho beat peps barca with inter it doesn’t make him a better manager😂bros using one off cup games as a gauge for who’s better. Bless you

@seventeenseconds1698 11 ай бұрын

@@Johndoe-gf7eu Brilliant. If City win the treble this year I’m sure that every City fan will still be crying because Match of the Day magazine said he was the third best manager of all time.

@DirtyJamesUK 11 ай бұрын

@@Johndoe-gf7eu lol "cry more". What a wet little boy you are 😂. I'm a long time Manchester United fan. Why would I want Pep to be the best? 🤦🏾‍♂️ John Doe with a dead opinion 😂

@jerrykabongo1438 11 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed this 🔥🔥🔥. I’m a City Fan✅

@yonnie4416 11 ай бұрын

People need to stop comparing players and managers from different times. The game keeps changing, and so does the money within the game.

@chrislovett5999 11 ай бұрын

“You need multiple teams to be in a title race to win the league against city…” Ummmm. Remind me of the last time someone other then city won the title and how many other teams were in said title race… 🤦‍♂️

@Professionallypessimistic 11 ай бұрын

I see your new to football KZfaq , forget articulating cogent arguments, just make shit up 👍

@miranishaq1541 11 ай бұрын

That liverpool team was perfect. Next season no other team(except city) will be as good. So, a little help from other teams will be very important.

@aaronmartin8705 11 ай бұрын

Ferguson won a European cup with Aberdeen……. Conversation over

@RafPos13 10 ай бұрын

He didn't, he won the equivalent of Europa League back then

@MCFCReacts 26 күн бұрын

@@RafPos13yes

@Mossbergg 11 ай бұрын

im a 1 minute in and this man said he would take grealish over rashford, im turning this shit off

@woody8563 11 ай бұрын

“Casemiro has more champions leagues than your club” he has more than your club too 😂😂

@duckers5120 11 ай бұрын

Should of got Andy Tate vs Buvey

@WalkWithWyatt 11 ай бұрын

Total waffle to dismiss The Invincibles. I'm not saying they were the best side ever but no one else has repeated it since. That makes them top 3 prem sides of all time AT LEAST

@MCFCReacts 26 күн бұрын

1. City under Pep 2. United under Fergie 3. Liverpool under Klopp

@timbo7762 11 ай бұрын

"i'd get him a ticket" course Buvey would so many empty seats

@jamesarthur4601 11 ай бұрын

Been waiting months for these vids

@alexnahra5894 11 ай бұрын

Messi won the treble after Pep left, how was he not better when Pep left?

@DrBased123 11 ай бұрын

Messis absolute prime was with pep and that's a fact.

@sehansamaragunarathna1705 11 ай бұрын

@@DrBased123 better goalscorer with pep, became a better overall player when he won the treble

@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 11 ай бұрын

Barca best period under Pep Messi 90 goals under Pep Messi best period under Pep Pep carried by Messi/Barca?🤔

@roronoalaw7772 11 ай бұрын

@@DrBased123No it isn’t. If you’re a casual you’ll look at his goal-scoring numbers per year and say that but his overall game was better in 2015 compared with 2012.

@isaacnewton3514 11 ай бұрын

Messi also had his 2 best scoring seasons after Pep, however Pep’s Barcelona was the best team Messi has ever played in

@throne77fghgh86 11 ай бұрын

Pep never won a ucl without messi Adam just dropped beautiful fact to shut buvey up

@grealish2234 11 ай бұрын

Sir alex won it twice . Pep won it twice beating sir alex . Just proves who is better. Also messi has won only 1 after pep . According to your logic messi should win every ucl if he was the only reason

@throne77fghgh86 11 ай бұрын

@@grealish2234 just cause saf lost 2 ucl finals again pep doesn't mean he's better Pep lost ucl final against tuchel, does that make him better than pep? Messi won it twice without pep Also 2019 messi is greater than any messi version under pep cause he was carrying a deadass team all the to the semi finals and la liga win

@Busybee65 6 ай бұрын

I agree, Pep never got sacked by St Mirren 😁, + Pep's Barcelona battered Ferguson's Man Utd in 2 Finals.

@KEviVICH 11 ай бұрын

The is not a debate. This is two friends hanging out with some drinks. 🤣🤣🤣

@willgoodall1529 11 ай бұрын

Should've got Goldbridge for this

@nippz2831 11 ай бұрын

this United fan is so delusional saying Marcus Rashford, hes one of uniteds worst player. Casemiro, Eriksen, Varane, martinez, Luke Shaw get in City team maybe not start but Rashford hell nah

@user-qc9sx9hq5v 11 ай бұрын

people saying casemiro and varane having more ucl's than man city is flawed as they have more than man utd as well

@Blaze0071 11 ай бұрын

It always stings when it's one of your closest mates

@leftthebuildingritz2065 11 ай бұрын

This isn’t going to age well for the losing side 😂

@khaliifsaeed261 11 ай бұрын

This man city fan saying that Messi has been not the same since pep guardiola left there my bro you are absolutely wrong Messi has been the same since he started playing football even he showed every body last world that Messi is still the best player in the world football and I believe Messi is better than everyone in the right now

@rayvinloony2322 11 ай бұрын

Fergie spent 26 seasons at Utd yet only won 2 C/Ls Pep been slated since he arrived at city for not winning 1 in 7 seasons. Pep will be remembered for his Barca and City teams. Fergie never evolved the game. Both up there with Paisley and Clough, but Paisley won 19 trophies in only 9 seasons, 3 of them were European cups, Cloughie won back to back European cups. Cloughie was the greatest man manager.

@sssf55 11 ай бұрын

It's actually funny how people are seriously debating this. Pep has probably spent 5-7 times what furgeson has just to be less successful. And that's not even considering the 100+ violations and the few hundred million off the book payments made by city. Even at barcelona pep benefited from under table payments to refs. Look the guy is definitely good and probably in the top 5 best managers of all time. But for the love God, he isn't half the manager furgeson was. He knows it and everyone who is serious about football does. Only recent casuals (basically city or barca fans) believe he's better.

@utkarshkhosla3342 11 ай бұрын

Casimero has more champions lague than man united as well but adam won't mention that 🤣🤣🤣

@Ball619 11 ай бұрын

@@RRR-vr7cdwhat a way to deflect facts 🤣 you definitely trained on that urinated fool 🤡

@PelleLolWut 11 ай бұрын

A question I have to ask the brits here is this; what's with the fascination with wanting your club to be percieved as a 'bigger club' than someone else's? I'm a foreign fan of Liverpool, but if a Manchester United or Real Madrid fan told me their club was 'bigger' than Liverpool, I'd be like "yeah? I agree, and what's your point?" Why do people care so much whos club is considered 'bigger' than another club? Also just fyi, I find both Buvey and Mckola to be massively entertaining and like them both.

@ryancarlo9328 11 ай бұрын

Bragging rights, tribalism and pride of one's club.

@funnyfuse3869 11 ай бұрын

@@ryancarlo9328 it's just a card they pull out because there respective clubs aren't at the top anymore, more out of desperation in a debate if anything.

@ryancarlo9328 11 ай бұрын

@@funnyfuse3869 Not a fair answer because clubs like Liverpool and United will brag about being the biggest clubs in England when their at the top. But clubs like Newcastle and Leeds and Everton do sometimes do that for that reason.

@Johndoe-gf7eu 11 ай бұрын

@@funnyfuse3869 buvey couldn’t say anything back tho. For city fans to still admit united are a bigger club hurts them deeply. They know they will never overtake us

@funnyfuse3869 11 ай бұрын

@@ryancarlo9328 yeah I get that what I mean is when it's "yeah but we are a bigger club" they never used that when they were at the top.

@IceClawz. 11 ай бұрын

Pretty much just the club without Rory 🤣

@AusIrishRooBhoy 11 ай бұрын

Not a fan of either. You cant be bigger than Man U just on that 90's squad. Coming through the ranks is far better than buying established pros.

@extricos 11 ай бұрын

Although Pep is probably the 2nd best manager of all time, it took the best player in football history for him to secure 1 champions league (messi) and he has never won it since even after spending a billion whereas fergie chopped and changed several sides and still won it twice with another couple of finals missed out on aswell. Fergie for me (Arsenal fan)

@russellward4624 11 ай бұрын

He wasn't the best player until Pep took over and put him in a system to make him thr best player.

@extricos 11 ай бұрын

@Russell ward Clearly your not familiar with football. Messi was already head and shoulders above his "La Massia" team mates in the Barcelona academy so his natural talent and his quick feet and astonishing dribbling was already there to see. Gardiola took note and upgraded him to the first team because his talent was undeniable even at that young age, yes Pep obviously gave him a pointer or 2 and made him adapt to Barcelona's tiki taka system but don't act like if Pep wasn't there and they had another manager that Messi would turn out to be Peter Crouch. Your just kidding yourself.

@swatik2509 11 ай бұрын

@@extricos still he did improve Messi and laid his foundation. Pep making Messi is definitely far more true than saying SAF made Ronaldo.

@MM-jc7uv 10 ай бұрын

@@russellward4624 mate, Messi was gonna be the greatest player of all-time regardless of who was managing him. You could see it in him even before Pep came in from like 2006-2008 that he was something special

@russellward4624 10 ай бұрын

@@MM-jc7uv so why wasn't he before Pep took over? Why wasn't the team built around him?

@Brickhazard 11 ай бұрын

Adam has a point as does Buvey with regards to "luck" in the Champions League. United were arguably one of the best teams in Europe in 1997 and we lost 2-0 to Dortmund over 2 legs and they beat a supreme Juventus side in the final. Champions League always has this potential to be spawny.

@MoejiiOsmanTV 11 ай бұрын

The greatest club side ever 2005 AC MILAN EVER assembled arguably with the 2011 barca squad Yyet Istanbul proved the ucl isn't gauranteed and why it's the greatest ucl final ever but the greatest comeback in football EVER

@samkhan5661 11 ай бұрын

What about winning the league with 79 points in that year?!?..including 13 draws..you would struggle with a top 4 spot with those points nowadays..

@Brickhazard 11 ай бұрын

@@samkhan5661 Man United only lost 4 games in all competitions that season. The league was also harder back then. City have lost 6 this season and are playing in much weaker European competition.

@man4437 10 ай бұрын

I've always been a huge opponent of judging teams on cup competitions. It's easy to say "they should've won the UCL", but in any given year there are a dozen teams that "should be able to win". If you look at any given team, zero in on their performance, it will look absolutely miserable. Juventus, Atleti, AC Milan, Dortmund, Spurs, PSG, Lyon - they've all had teams that were capable of winning the UCL in recent memory, but none of them have in a good while. Ferguson only won it twice at United while similarly dominating the league. The thing is, it's easy to judge a team as failures when you ignore the nature of the competition. One bad game from you or one good game from your opponent in any stage can mean you're knocked out. And you're playing against literally the best teams in Europe, so there's no such thing as a free lunch. I'm not saying I hate cup competitions, but there's an inherent sense of luck involved in a sport like football, where you could play the same game on a different day and get a different result, when knockouts are involved.

@zikozizon6711 11 ай бұрын

It is a bloody fact. Pep is Billion times better the Alex.

@augustus4286 11 ай бұрын

Now all we need is Ty and Mark Goldbridge

@shikharsrivastava3558 11 ай бұрын

lol great to see these 2 together again

@giannistri 11 ай бұрын

They have a great podcast for some months with Rory, called the Club, check it out.

@iandenzel1596 11 ай бұрын

I think pep is slightly better bcoz he has won league titles in 3 different leagues , he beat sir Alex man u teams in two champions league finals

@ossnips9329 11 ай бұрын

The only thing I would say about Sir Alex is what was Manchester United like before and after Sir Alex joined

@Johndoe-gf7eu 11 ай бұрын

Tuchel beat pep doesn’t mean hes better

@Johndoe-gf7eu 11 ай бұрын

Mourinho beat pep with inter

@celtic4862 11 ай бұрын

you're right sir Alex could never win a league with Barca with Messi and could never win a league with Bayern

@iandenzel1596 11 ай бұрын

@@Johndoe-gf7eu Barca dominated almost the whole game in the 2 finals sir Alex teams couldn't catch them , Mourinho and tuchel won by lucky goals and then park the bus that's not football according to me

@thunderjoy7250 11 ай бұрын

Very respectful debate

@leedavis6000 11 ай бұрын

Burvey thinks our history comes from the treble Dennis law, Bobby Charlton, George best, The busby babes etc. great interview guys.

@iamcosta 11 ай бұрын

Man Utd fans thinking rashford is world-class is a joke😂

@footnow2845 11 ай бұрын

@Hayden Redwood grealish is an unbelievable player tho

@waynerooney8311 11 ай бұрын

@@footnow2845 Martial has more goals than 100 million grealish this season and Martial has been injured for like 3/4 of the season, hes not unbelievable, hes just great at winning set pieces thats about it, one of the most overrated player

@ahmaranwar1488 11 ай бұрын

Grealish is foul wining 100 million pound hair cut

@faruq2588 11 ай бұрын

@@waynerooney8311safe to say you don’t watch city matches at all

@waynerooney8311 11 ай бұрын

@@faruq2588 don't need to, if man united spends 100 million for a player and that player has like 5 goals this season, you would be sitting here trolling man united and that player even if that was grealish, you would, so use the same energy here, 100 million for a guy with 5 goals a season is poor

@purplebutterfly314 11 ай бұрын

Grealish is only world class at partying and driving drunk 😂 Buvey cracks me up

@spa2damax 11 ай бұрын

Still being a grealish hater is the greatest test for awful football knowledge in 2023

@purplebutterfly314 11 ай бұрын

@@spa2damax Please explain to me how I'm a hater. Thinking Grealish is world class is delusional. He's good but he's not world class

@abdirizackaden148 11 ай бұрын

@@purplebutterfly314 your hater for taking the piss out of grealish when he's being revelation this season

@purplebutterfly314 11 ай бұрын

@@abdirizackaden148 I'm not taking the piss out of Grealish, I'm taking the piss out of Buvey. Learn to read and to spell.

@YOUNGBANDZ_ 11 ай бұрын

Marcus rashford will get in the stadium, I'll give him ticket 😂😂😂 - buvey when he asked which man utd player will get in the city team😂

@user-ir2bg7et2n 11 ай бұрын

represented city so well lawrence cant fault u in anyway mate!!

@lileddie2016 11 ай бұрын

Buvey hasn't always been a city fan..

@chriswood753 11 ай бұрын

He probably supported Chelsea 5 years ago. He's what you call a weatherman!!! And that carrot cruncher accent is a disgrace!!!

@360kevss9 7 ай бұрын

And we won the treble😌🩵

@sirbaconbutties7071 11 ай бұрын

Old Whiskey noes in the background has held the Mancs back for a decade ,and its beautiful to watch.👹

@animexcomics9384 11 ай бұрын

Jose Mourinho also won many things but he is not consistent with a team . The people argue that Mourinho love challenges is to hide the fact that he never wanted challenge to go to ROMA he was just sacked so he went with the only available option On the other hand Pep don't go to any team , Big team come to Pep . Why big club if given opportunity want to hire pep like let's ask generally because he know what's need to be done to built a team that play a style of football & he also know the art of choosing .

@usmanshakoor6083 11 ай бұрын

Love how when city fans argue pep is better then Ferguson they go straight to the point of Peps Barca rather than his city team and what he’s done in the premier league

@grealish2234 11 ай бұрын

Ya cause we arguing the total career of pep . Peps barca beat sir allez twice in ucl finals . That itself should be good enough proof that sir alex isn't better . Also peps city is better than any united side ever. Sir alex never got routinely 90 points like pep sides do

@lawmantheonetrueking3739 11 ай бұрын

@@grealish2234SAF had to compete with Jose and Arsene at their best and even the likes of Dagleish. Pep has only had Klopp. As for Utd v Barca seem to remember Scholes strike putting Barca out of CL. Pep went to Bayern the treble winners and left them not the treble winners. He goes to City recent PL winners backed by an State (currently contesting 115 charges, oh and he said he would leave if they lied to him) and he builds on the success with an open cheque book having also inherited world class players. He is a great coach of good/great players but wonder how he would do at Reading, Majorca, Bergamot, etc.

@grealish2234 11 ай бұрын

@@lawmantheonetrueking3739 just shows your knowledge really . Scholes knocked out barca but it wasn't coached by pep . Also city was not the pl champions when pep took over city . You are salty cause your team couldn't get a sniff around peps barca in both ucl finals. There are levels to the game and united couldn't get near peps barca

@ahmaranwar1488 11 ай бұрын

@@grealish2234 ole beat pep fraudiola more times than anyone else. Ole is goat!

@raymondbutler834 11 ай бұрын

Guardiola's 15 years of silverware with Ready Made Teams should NEVER be mentioned in the same breath as over 30 years of Fergie building up teams from scratch and rebuilding them.

@man4437 10 ай бұрын

"Ready made teams" which is why he spends so much time and money honing his teams to perfection. Also this nonsense idea that United came from nowhere. How are you going to both say that Pep had it easy because his teams were "pre-built" but also credit Ferguson for "rebuilding"? Real catch-22 logic right there. Ferguson is good because he stayed at the same good team, Pep is worse because he went to different good teams.

@raymondbutler834 10 ай бұрын

@@man4437 Before Fergie joined United they didn't win a League Title for 20 years and then transformed them into a dominant Premier League force. Most managers would have succeeded with prime Xavi, Iniesta and Messi at Barcelona. Just for the record Pep failed at Bayern. No matter what Pep wins with City, his achievements will NEVER be compared to Fergie working Miracles with Aberdeen plus United have crumbled without Fergie.

@MM-jc7uv 10 ай бұрын

@@raymondbutler834 bold of you to say that considering Pep is still early in his managerial career. He’s still got potentially 20+ years of managing in him and if he keeps this up he will go down as the greatest easily

@2g772 10 ай бұрын

He beat ur old hag Head to Head twice in a UCL with team that was made out of more than half of the academy grads then came to ur country made it a farmer's league (money isn't excuse this time since United have more net spend than City during that period too) he pretty much has ur entire fanbase on strings ever since that 2009 final u can cry abt it all u want he won treble with this team too😭🤣

@truenoae8689 7 ай бұрын

If they were ready made teams why didn't they win nearly as much before him. His record is insane, won 2 trebles in 2 different countries and has almost the same trophies (more CLs) than Fergie in like half the time, plus all his tactical innovations to the game, plus dominating Fergie in 2 finals, proves who is better. It's only nostalgic United fans who refuse to accept it

@PRCOM 11 ай бұрын

Iv gotta lot of time for Adam he speaks well and makes good points, wish we had Adam over robbie at Arsenal

@Loki-jm9qi 11 ай бұрын

Luke shaw has been so underrated this premier league!! He has replaced harry maguire!! Playing first choice cb when Martinez was injured and also has been a great LB !! Credit should be given where it's been due!!