I think sugapens work well in choppy water, but I haven't had much success with them on whiting, but on tailor in the lake.. deadly

Thanks for the positive response. Perseverance is the key...

Lures are also expensive, but at least you get to use them more than once...and collect and ... collect.... and ... you get the picture

I will be doing more on soft plastics in the coming summer as my life gets back on track...

nissan02ful you're most welcome, hope it helps you catch more fish!

Apologies for the late response, have not been able to attend to the channel for some time. Trolling a Rapala XRap XR6 in olive green will get you a flathead over the flats (up to1m deep water) easy as...

Hey, welcome to the channel, try the Daiwa range, they definitely exceed the stuff at Kmart in terms of catch rate, spend your money wisely...

@@AlluringFishing cheers

You're welcome. Thanks for subscribing. Tight lines. Flatties are everywhere at the moment and whiting season also in full swing. Tailor on the beaches soon as well...

Happy to help. My favourite colour of the summer is the brown suji prawn, seems to work well in all shapes and sizes. I have caught so many different species: bream whiting, luderick, leatherjacket, flathead and tailor, either on the diving versions - double clutch, presso and spike as well as the silver wolf topwater minnow. I don't leave home without it...

Alluring Fishing for double clutch, which one you prefer for whiting: suji brown or lazer ayu? I am finding daiwa presso but my local tackle not sell it, what is the difference and which one is more suitable for whiting, bream? And what size you prefer for whiting? 60mm or 70mm. I was trying sugapen 70 hf-264 but just catch tailors. I am trying the diving strategy, hope it help. Thanks for this valuable video ! 😁

@@trstormvn thanks for the questions. The presso minnow is more shallow in the dive depth and has a rattle, whereas the double clutch has the weight transfer piston and is silent. In very shallow water the presso minnow in the brown suji prawn colour is my favorite for whiting. In slightly deeper water (up to half a meter or more, I would use the double clutch 60 mm in the same brown suji prawn color.

Thanks a lot! 😃

Daniel, the DC Lazer ayu changed the game...about time too

on the 60mm change to fangs size 8 and size 10 on the 75mm

Hey, thanks for your positive comments. I have two retrieves that I use for the presso minnow: 1. Steady, medium pace darting, to emulate a fleeing prawn. 2. Twitch twitch, pause. (The standard flathead style retrieve). Btw, I recently saw presso minnows in the sale bin at BCF....🤭

Agreed

That was 2 years ago 😊 but as you will realise its not about collecting, the object is to discover what works and to only buy what works. I now top up my lures with multiple spares of my favorites. Where I used to go kayaking with a range of lures I now usually only take about 20 lures for a morning session and in most cases I only use 5 or so, as soon as you find what colour is working on the day, it's just depth and retrieve that varies

Hi. I don't have the packaging anymore for the assist hooks and I have also stopped using them. Although they do work by catching more fish, they corrode very quickly and are not suitable for long term use in salt water. I have started to use fangs (BKK) saltwater trebles instead. This allows for a smaller hook suitable for whiting and they don't corrode.

Yes, agree, bream are very aggressive at times and certainly wouldn't ignore a 95mm

Hi Terry, there are a couple of retrieves that work for the whiting, either very steady (but not too fast), letting the action of the lure do its work, or a slower slightly twitchy retrieve with very brief pauses. Also the double clutch 60mm now comes in the brown suji prawn colour as well which works really well. Try to find a shallow drop off on the sand flats and try the incoming tide about 30 mins after the turn of the tide casting over the drop off and working the lure back across the drop off...either direction has worked for me.

@@AlluringFishing Thanks for that. I'm up in Brisbane but get the same species at Bribie Island. I'll try that 60mm Double Clutch too. Cheers

Thank you

Thanks for watching the video. The lure in question is a Yozuri crystal minnow, but they don't make the prism in the green mackerel colour anymore. Actually all the prism finish range seems to be rare these days. Important also, to get the suspending version... hope the info was useful, now is the time to get out on the lake.

Thanks for watching. I have lots of video to upload, just have to find time! Lures. 1 flattie - trolling behind kayak --》rapala x-rap 6mm olive green - casting shallow diver --》 daiwa double clutch ghost perch or any of the ayu colors in 60, 75 or 95. 1.Bream - surface --》 daiwa silver wolf brown suji prawn or purple suji prawn - casting shallow diver --》 daiwa double clutch brown suji prawn 60 or 75mm 3. whiting - casting surface --》 bassday sugapen HF119 95mm - casting shallow diver --》 daiwa presso minnow brown suji prawn or double clutch 60mm in brown suji prawn color 4. Tailor casting off the beach --》savage gear sea missile silver flash 42g in sunlight or iron candy bullet foil glow in low light Tailor in the lake --》 daiwa double clutch 95mm in purple suji prawn or lazer perch color. Enjoy. Tight lines.

I use both mono and flouro. I have different setups on different rods. On my 7ft rods i will use 8lb braid as the main line and then I have one rod with 6lb flouro leader, one with 10lb mono leader and one with 20lb flouro leader. The mono floats so I use that with surface lures. The flouro sinks so I use that with diving lures. 6lb for flathead, 20lb for tailor. Mono also has a bit more stretch than flouro.

Alluring Fishing great answer. Thanks so much. 🙏

Glad to have positive feedback

I've caught a lot of Trevally on soft plastics, brown, gold and black/red ... all with wiggling tails

Hi, I haven't had much success with trevally

Hi. I have had reasonable success with the sugapen 70 on whiting in the HF119 colour. I have found the 95mm sugapen to be not as effective on whiting in the lake as the 70mm but the advantage is that it casts further, and will catch tailor on the surface. I haven't tried sydney harbour for whiting, so can't advise other than to find a good sand flat with water not more than half a metre deep and a steady retrieve, no pauses when they follow the lure. However the retrieve for whiting on the surface is something of a black art and takes a lot of practice. Other good surface lures for whiting are the daiwa silver wolf 70mm in the brown suji prawn colour.

Thank you very much for your detail instruction and sorry for late reply, I tried few days to practice and apply your tips to find the first whiting of my lure, unfortunately I haven't success yet. I have catched tiny tailor and lizard but not whiting. I have bought Sugapen 70mm C264 (because they run out HF-117 :((( ). I have seen people catch whiting on that color but no luck for me yet. I don't know whether I haven't applied correct technique or Sydney's fish are so clever and picky, I see them but there is no attraction with lure :| I have tried to replace the tail hook by assist hooks, but I feel the assist hooks not heavy enough to have a balance for lure, the sugapen not create walk the dog action properly when using assist hook.

Nhật Huy Lê Minh when I was at Noosa Spit in 2003, i went to the breakwater section of the Noosa Spit and used 🍤 as the bait and caught 9 whitings and 1 bream in just under an hour’s Mark. Pure luck as I had no idea what I was doing back then. But thanks to Alluring Fishing, I have learned a lot about lures and also getting inspired by his videos.

Size 8

glad you enjoyed it

what kayak do you have for the lake?

Hey Josh. Thanks for watching...appreciate the lekker comment too. Can't lose that 'eccent' hey

I have an RTM Abaco 420

brilliant, thanks

If you got the holographic green mackerel 90mm you did well. I haven't seen those for more than a year...

@@AlluringFishing Just had a look in the tackle box there silver/chrome/black 90mm and that was pretty much the only color they had . From memory they were $11.00 US . I normally stock up on braid and fluorocarbon but they had bugger all and the place i bought from last time closed up :(

I normally get my braid from amazon (US) usually about $9-$12 (US)

Great idea...those stinger hooks are quite difficult to tie down...

Yes. Always try a few different lures to see what the fish want on the day. I bought a box of swivel snaps on ebay 5 different sizes to suit different situations/rods

Alluring Fishing thanks so much. Do you find that attaching a snap swivel to the lure reduces the natural free movement of the lure in the water ? Some people suggest using a rapala knot or loose knot ?

@@thebestisyettobe5506 no I don't think the swivel snap hinders the action of the lure at all. The loop knot or rapala knot allows the lure to move freely from side to side, which is exactly what a swivel snap does and the swivel prevents line twist. If you look at the pro bass fishermen in the USA, everyone uses snaps. In my opinion there's no need to tie a lure directly to the leader by way of a knot these days, you need to be able to respond to the conditions and available fish quickly or miss out and swivel snaps allow that speed and flexibility required. My sessions are max 2 hours and I usually land decent fish in a session.

Alluring Fishing thanks so much for your great advice. Now I’m pumped but it’s midnight here.

@@JiasonSiow happy to help. Any time when you're not fishing can be spent preparing for fishing😊. Getting gear ready, getting organised so that fishing sessions are productive...

Hi. I use snap clips with a swivel

@@AlluringFishing OK, I use the Mustad fastach clips. Do you find that the clips ever "bog down" the actions on say the Sugapens?

@@peteh7966 yes they can...but the fish dont seem to mind

I have tried to use just two singles but I have found that there wasn't much difference in hook up rate

They're actually not technically tackle boxes:-) , I found them at Spotlight in the sewing section....ha ha ha. They're made by Semco and really cheap too. $5 for a small box (perfect for double clutch 60mm) and $7 for a medium (perfect for double clutch 75mm). No more rip off prices from BCF.

90mm floating green/silver. Available on amazon

Amazon uses imperial measurements so it would be the 3.5 inch

If you got the sb304 I have no doubt you will catch some nice flatties on it. Try fish the last hour of the runout and the first hour of the run in tide on a good sand flat in the channel...

@@AlluringFishing I got the 70sp im new in luring I'm still learning how to use them etc.. What's best way using them. Can you cast them in structure??

I use the sugar deep mainly for flathead, in water of less than 1 metre deep, mainly sand flats, making sure that the lure makes contact with the bottom, kicking up puffs of sand...To cast into structure along river banks etc. will surely catch trevally, bass, perch in NSW or barra in QLD amongst others...

Also remember to add in a good amount of pauses in the retrieve. It's usually on the pause that you get the strike... The suspending sugar deep is really effective in the pause because it stays at the depth that you pause it. You can also get very technical and test your lures to see whether they suspend or rise on the pause. If the lure rises, you can add lead tape to make it pause perfectly...fishing with lures is very technical but so rewarding when you crack the code... good luck mate!

@@AlluringFishing thanks buddy for your advise always learning

Hey Travis, apologies for the late reply. I buy from a wide range of stores both physical and online. My preferred stores are Hot Tackle in Toronto (lake macquarie west), Tackle World Marks Point, Tackle World Port Stephens, Iso Fishing Lifestyle (ebay/instagram) and Get Wet Outdoors (Ebay).

Hi Henry. Interesting question. I have tried the 120 sugapen in the HF-119 colour off the beach on windless days. I have yet to catch anything with it, mostly because it doesn't cast very far and it's just easier to catch fish using metals, because you can cast the lure exactly where the fish are. However, I do think that the 120 sugapen will work well in the Swansea channel for kingfish or tailor as I have had success there on 110 rapala shallow divers.

Thanks for your response. Great Video and very informative channel. I will stick with metals at beach. One of my local Tackle store owner uses sugapen 120 with success for kingfish. He changes the treble hooks to single hooks.

Alluring Fishing cheers for that so hard bodies would not work in the surf ?

@@rosscheetham1168 hey, I'm sure they will work if the fish can see them, but the challenge is the casting distance and getting to the fish. So I've only ever been successful using the method suggested. I've tried hardbodies in the surf but no success with that yet. I guess it all depends on the surf conditions and the wind on the day. If you can cast into a good looking piece of surf (gutter/sandbank etc...), no reason they wouldn't work.

Alluring Fishing ok ty do you have a video on the traditional rig I don't know what it is

@@rosscheetham1168 I haven't yet done a video pertaining to whiting on gulp worms, also, whiting season for this year is all but over until November. A whiting rig is quite easy: 6lb flouro leader with a small running ball sinker for the lake or a small running pyramid sinker for the surf. Use a mustad #4 long shank worm hook. Feed the gulp plastic along the hook shank. Use at least a 7ft 2-4kg rod with very light action. Will do a video on this in due course. Thanks for the interest. Whiting are tasty fish, the ones least likely to be returned to swim away after a photo...

Alluring Fishing ahh really I am very new to fishing what will be good to target now I wanna get into using lures as I hate bait

Also try bkk size 14. Better quality than owner

I have had success on most of the DC patterns. Over time though some work better than others , but I guess it always corresponds to what is available as a natural food source and matching the hatch...

@@AlluringFishing thanks for the reply’s, yes in the end it’s all about matching the hatch and following the bait.

Hey Paul...sorry for being slack....I have just had a very tough year in my personal life, so haven't really been getting out there. Hope to do some fishing over the break. I'm working out a strategy to get mulloway....setting a high bar I know but thats just me

Alluring Fishing hope you are ok brother. I am saving for a 4x4 and I’ll get you over for a visit to Brissie and Stradbroke Island for fishing. Sterkte.

@@paulvictor9368 thats funny I didn't realise....thanks for your support....life changing event boet....I'm sure you get my drift (thats not a bait that I'm drifting either 😂) I used to live up that way myself and to be honest I found the fishing down here in NSW way better, but maybe I just got better at it 😅

@@paulvictor9368 i will take you up on that offer....i have a 4x4 boet, so you're welcome ti come down south too....and we're allowed to drive on the local beaches too

Alluring Fishing 🤣🤣. That’s awesome. Will meet soon for a braai. 😉