Lament singing traditions from Karelia and other Finnic communities

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10 ай бұрын

I'll be taking part in the Irish festival of Oulu this year! (October 4th-8th) I'll be specifically hosting an event talking about The Lament and it's cultural significance in Ireland! check out: www.irkku.fi/ for information and tickets!
#finland #history #music
sources used:
Lauri Honko, 1963, Itkuvirsirunous, Eripainos Suomen
kirjallisuus 1:stä
- Unelma Konkka, 1985, Ikuinen ikävä - Karjalaiset ritti-itkut,
Suomalaisen kirjallisuuden seura
- Silvonen Viliina, 2022, Väitöskirja: Apeus arkistoäänitteellä
- Laments from Karelia, Ingria, Finland , Finnish Literature Society

Пікірлер: 27

@higgaroc 10 ай бұрын

This was so interesting, thank you! I am visiting Finland, doing an artist residency at an amazing place in the woods, and my paintings are being influenced very strongly by what I am learning about the traditions and mythology of this beautiful and fascinating culture. I watch your videos almost every day for research purposes. Kiitos!

@whosigh 3 ай бұрын

beautiful! do u mind sharing the name of the residency? I dream of a similar experience

@statostheman 3 ай бұрын

In Tibet, about the after life there is an scared ritual called Bardo.

@tableandchairs9699 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for this amazing video, I wish people would take more notice of you, you make such great videos about our culture here

@IrishinFinland 10 ай бұрын

Thank you! As a great man once said "it's just a hobby for me, I don't have to do it if I don't want" 🤣🤟🏻

@Minunmaani 3 ай бұрын

Kiitos ❤️

@Minunmaani 3 ай бұрын

I try to make something like you present here. I shall link your well made video to information.

@roykosonen1734 8 ай бұрын

This is a superb video! You display not only much knowledge about Finns but also a genuine LOVE for them. I am the American son of Finnish immigrant parents and I thank you for your deep devotion to my people.

@maleficara 10 ай бұрын

Kiitos! Tämä oli kaunista.

@FINNlSH 10 ай бұрын

You are teaching us finns too! Never knew the origins of this tradition, impressive!

@JP-zz7en 9 ай бұрын

Excellent video, here in Mexico there was a tradition of "plañideras " women who were hired to cry, pray, watch over the deceased, it was a tradition brought from Spain, currently it is no longer practiced. The reason why Christianity forbade lamentations is because they considered that it was a matter of pagans, since by lamenting they demonstrated that they did not have faith in Jesus Christ to be able to live in paradise, according to Christian beliefs, however, paradoxically these traditions still lived on, but unfortunately they are also being lost because the younger generations have no interest in it, which is sad :'(. I think the new enemy of these ancient traditions is not Christianity, but the globalization, modernism, post modernism and secularization.

@sheribeecham1259 4 ай бұрын

Check out Meri by Varttina ;) I am sure the laments pre-dated Christianity by my Ancestors, Just a knowing.. The most important element of a lament should be that it comes from the heart.

@MiMi-pstatyt 10 ай бұрын

Wonderful. Thank you ❤

@goblinwizard735 10 ай бұрын

This is great! Will your talk on Irish lament be posted online at any point?

@IrishinFinland 10 ай бұрын

At the end of this month 🤟🏻

@goblinwizard735 10 ай бұрын

Oh great, looking foreward@@IrishinFinland

@DNA350ppm 9 ай бұрын

"Where are the support payments delayed?" "How are we going to survive in our everyday needs?" "Is the good Lord going to come to our help?" She sings of such sorrows and cares. Beautifully paired with the Steinbeck quote! You did research this topic very well - thanks a lot! Here's music suitable to the ambience? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g7V3aJqhnK_Dk4E.html

@3851035 10 ай бұрын

This may be a touchy subject but... parts of Karelia were seceded to the Soviets in the war. Do those Karelians consider themselves Finns, or Russians, or their own unique identity? As an American I'm completely ignorant, but would like to know more about that situation. Perhaps an idea for another video?

@JainMonroe 10 ай бұрын

The Karelians of Finland in South Karelia and the migrant Karelians from the western parts of the former Vyborg county speak southeastern dialects belonging to the eastern dialects of the Finnish language. Finnish Karelians in North Karelia mainly speak the Savo dialects belonging to the eastern dialects of the Finnish language. Speakers of the Karelian language include Finnish Karelian speakers from the eastern parts of the former Viipur county in various parts of Finland, as well as the residents of some of the so-called Viena poetry villages, Kuhmo and Suomussalmi villages near the border of Finland and Russia in Kainuu province. In Russia, the areas where the Karelian people live are the Republic of Karelia and Tver Karelia, as well as parts of the Murmansk region and the Leningrad region. Karelians in Russia speak the Karelian language. In the Karelian language, the differences between the dialects are large. The main dialects are Karelian proper and Livvin Karelian. The Lydian language, which used to be considered a dialect of the Karelian language, is nowadays generally considered its own language.

@archeofutura_4606 10 ай бұрын

The soviets expelled and ethnically cleansed what is now the Russian part of Karelia, and nowadays the vast majority of the inhabitants of the Russian republic of Karelia are ethnic russians. Somewhere less than 3% of the population can speak the Karelian language at this point

@3851035 10 ай бұрын

@@JainMonroe Thank you!

@3851035 10 ай бұрын

@@archeofutura_4606 Thank you!

@3851035 10 ай бұрын

@@Murehissani_Murajan Thank you!