How To Use the New Stan Onnex Clicker With Joel Turner

How To Use the New Stan Onnex Clicker With Joel Turner | CAN HE FIX PJ'S SHOT?

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Жыл бұрын

NEW Stan Clicker: bit.ly/3N2XZAI
ShotIQ founder and coach Joel Turner walks PJ Reilly through the proper use of the new STAN Onnex Clicker thumb button release that Turner helped design.

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@l.i.archer5379 Жыл бұрын

PJ, the latest Josh and Tim podcast requested you go jam with them on their fireside chat. I would love to see that episode if you make it happen.

@TimConnor13 Жыл бұрын

FACT

@the_sharp_carpenter Жыл бұрын

@@TimConnor13let's see it 👏🤞

@PhotoBob Жыл бұрын

Deer walks by and I punch the trigger like I’m shooting a .300 Win Mag

@DBZSTAY 3 ай бұрын

Your not supposed to punch the trigger on a 300 win mag either

@PhotoBob 3 ай бұрын

@@DBZSTAY 🤦🏼‍♂️

@Schubox62 Жыл бұрын

I'm watching this, and my LAS notification email arrives telling me that my Stan Clicker has been delivered. Thank you PJ and Joel. And yes, I have taken the course. I can't wait to get after it with this release! #nomatterwhat

@stickboy6772 Жыл бұрын

good video. the release looks nice and the video/instruction was clear and to the point. Thanks for the video and go Bodie! What a young man.

@floydallen9885 11 ай бұрын

Thanks, Joel and PJ. Another great lesson.

@jrhunt414 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations for making a release that is different and I believe will help many people. I’ll stick with my polished evolution but I know it’s not for everyone. This will help many people get set up and calm on the target.

@-lovefromnh Жыл бұрын

Love the opening bit!

@ludodg Жыл бұрын

fabulous! learned again .. and a lot!

@o.n.e.wayhunting Жыл бұрын

I see this as more a stresser and cause of target panic. Squeeze until you get a click, and then talk yourself through the fact the release hasn't gone off, Oh, I can't let down, still hasn't gone off, so just punch it and send it, no need to aim and focus on P.O.I. Just get a good hinge or resistance release and set it up right. Pull through a shot, no punching, no trigger manipulation.

@jwild5360 8 ай бұрын

That was my thoughts. I bought one and it’s complete opposite. It’s less anxious than a hinge with a clicker. Idk why I’ve always shot hinges mostly and thumb button from time to time but it’s surprisingly different than I thought it would be on shot process.

@joninisley6275 Жыл бұрын

Awesome stuff!!!

@haydengreen7486 Жыл бұрын

About time someone built a two stage trigger release way to go Stan

@seanbarrett4127 11 ай бұрын

Here I go....i just ordered this release

@coconatti Жыл бұрын

Learnt something profound watching this…gotta get me one of these releases

@eclipsearchery9387 Жыл бұрын

Release type doesn't matter....buying new releases is a bandaid...

@tonyviers-de9qi 5 ай бұрын

@@eclipsearchery9387somewhat true. …. Ok , mostly true. In some cases …. You just need a new release. 😊

@djsjunction Жыл бұрын

I love my Onnex C. Just shoot one before y'all hate man. Joel is a smart guy, a whole bunch of hate on him for what!? Growin the sport and making better, more accurate archers and shooters in general? Make it make sense!

@Nowhy Жыл бұрын

Hate? I can see why someone would see the whole system aspect as a kind of crux, that some use to overcome their anxiety - kinda like a stoic philosophy that has issues when it comes to the feeling aspect behind making any decision (to shoot a bow for instance, time and time again). Maybe look at some videos why some criticize stoicism in general.. Don't forget, the bow shoots the arrow and the arrow always hits its target - the responsibility of using one's power to load the bow and then release it, is where the human comes in (minus building and maintaining the tools and what not)...

@nancyliawoods Жыл бұрын

Joel is the man 🫶🏹

@davidfleer5307 Жыл бұрын

I’m using the perfex now and I enjoy it so I don’t think I need to spend $300 now but make one with a way to fasten a string or strap to keep it on my hand

@interestedmeow Жыл бұрын

I want a click index now. Make it happen Joel!!

@mikesabo5151 Жыл бұрын

These Guys are legendary

@ohio737pro 5 ай бұрын

In 15 years of shooting a bow, I just learned the most monumental lesson of all. I shoot a index and must get myself one of these Stan Onnex Clickers. What are the failure points in this release?

@MostlyPeacefulCombatVet Жыл бұрын

Boom!

@SomeGuyFromOK Жыл бұрын

I have a Scott Pursuit and love it, but I’m ready to upgrade to a softer release. The Scott is prefect for learning how to use a thumb button but is a little stiff. I want either this or the UV thumb. Are either of them wrist strap compatible? I’m just more comfortable with it. PS: this gave me major 90’s infomercial vibes. I loved every second. Joel is a cool guy.

@chrislindsey3523 Жыл бұрын

Just get the hinge I hunt with my hinge and have no troubles at all

@justinmahan7860 4 ай бұрын

I bought a regular thumb button and think im going to get the Resistance for target. I think that back tension will be more beneficial for me but ig we'll see!

@phantomcruizer Ай бұрын

They need to make a resistance release with a click!

@timkubas4758 Жыл бұрын

Sweet

@danielprice4933 Жыл бұрын

Just to confirm… sounds like Joel is saying not to use this as a “tension” activated break, and actually more of a controlled push of the thumb button? I guess my question is what’s the difference between punching the trigger and this method?

@pennyontrack Жыл бұрын

Yes that is what he is saying. At 7:00 he explains why it’s not a trigger punch

@the_sharp_carpenter Жыл бұрын

It's more like precision rifle shooting, gradually increase pressure on the trigger till it goes off, without adding extra tension on the string.

@tannerharris1483 11 ай бұрын

The most accurate way to shoot any release is to just press or rotate the release. However, people pull and pull and pull because they don’t have the ability to shoot accurately with single digit manipulation. So whether it’s a hinge or thumb they have to pull to make it fire because if they don’t then they will punch.

@jacklancaster4811 4 ай бұрын

I’ve just bought the standard thumb no click I’ve had many releases with clicks and for me they do nothing but anticipate a shot I wait for that click then proceed to take the shot as it an anxious thing for me really ruins most my shots, not only that it will spook animals if it’s loud enough keep the target stuff for home. It’s meant to be a surprise shot not a surprise if your brains waiting for a click its commanded I’ve had target panic worse then many I panic at the release it’s nothing to do with pin float it’s the release part I’ve shot the lot but a light trigger and a steady thumb movement gives me that shot I didn’t know happened do what works for you people will end up with target panic trying to fix things that don’t need fixing..

@thomasvanderhoff768 4 ай бұрын

Pj is looking at him like your a good salesman.

@phantomcruizer Ай бұрын

🤔It takes a good salesman to know a good salesman. 😎

@ludodg Жыл бұрын

I said it before ... this click-thumb-release is one of the biggest improvements on the system. Would not be surprised one bit if other manufactors will copy this. Can't wait untill this release comes available over here at my local shop.

@coltonconverse7343 Жыл бұрын

Actually Stan copied the Scott verge which is an index set up the same way though it was more marketed as a hinge it is the same thing

@SeanArcherXXX Жыл бұрын

For years release companies were competing who makes the crispest zero travel button. Now they're adding a click that needs a full millimeter to trigger. Seems we're going in circles. Btw... You can do this without a click. Just keep your thumb behind the button while you're "aiming", bring it around when you're ready to execute, and... execute.

@eclipsearchery9387 Жыл бұрын

You kinda missed the point ;)

@LancasterArcherySupply Жыл бұрын

For many people having some feedback during that execution process is helpful, and helps eliminate the accidental punch when you decide to start moving the button.

@5jjt 11 ай бұрын

I've heard a thumb or finger release will cause the other hand's thumb or finger to make the same gesture as the firing hand, thus result in torque. Is this an overblown point?

@hoganfan2006 Жыл бұрын

I’m failing to see how this addresses target panic more than a pull-through shot with a back tension release and/or thumb button(?). I’ve tried it, with little success.

@justinmahan7860 4 ай бұрын

Little success with the clicker? I think BT would be better as well

@lanetaglio 9 ай бұрын

...but would you hunt with the click release?

@AllanTF141 Жыл бұрын

Never has 'blah blah blah' meant so much😊❤

@kennylainhart7148 Жыл бұрын

Dudes a genius!! Great words Joel ✨

@timbow50 Жыл бұрын

What about training with a timer ( making a sound at a set time ) after the click. Training the brain and muscles to perform in. Repetitive time trained manor?

@robgodfrey699 Ай бұрын

I believe that would be 'open loop', which I think he's trying to avoid with this whole Shot IQ program.

@timbow50 Ай бұрын

@@robgodfrey699 yea, you’re probably right as that timer would break the continuity of finishing a controlled execution

@justinmahan7860 4 ай бұрын

Is this the sage green color? Looks darker than the pic online

@BuckWild_PNW Жыл бұрын

I feel like you wouldn’t want to have a click while hunting but I know people use hinge. Serious question, is the click not loud enough to matter while hunting ?

@LancasterArcherySupply Жыл бұрын

From my experience with this click and others, I think it would be okay while hunting. But it's something worth considering for every hunter. We all know deer and other animals can be finicky especially at close range.

@BuckWild_PNW Жыл бұрын

@@LancasterArcherySupply thanks for the response! I’ve always wondered 🤔 love your company and the channel. Being a year into bow hunting your videos have helped me a ton!

@ajbholsters2035 Жыл бұрын

In person, the click is actually much quieter than PJ's first video made it sound. My camera barely picked it up in a quiet room from a few feet away.

@BuckWild_PNW Жыл бұрын

@@ajbholsters2035 that’s what I was thinking since people do hunt with them. Thanks brother!

@Randomname183 Жыл бұрын

I need to get a Shot IQ arm tat also

@wackerman7259 10 ай бұрын

So basically a index release with a click.

@ianlaughlin85 3 ай бұрын

Why do they make such a big deal about this? Do people really have "panic" or are they just trying to sell stuff? I have an onnex and love it. I have it set as light as possible and it goes off perfectly every time.

@LancasterArcherySupply 3 ай бұрын

Target panic is VERY real.....If you've never experienced it, consider yourself lucky. It can range from just a little flinching to full-on anxiety.

@jons7e Жыл бұрын

Shake 'n Bake

@anthonypiertosanti9692 10 ай бұрын

A little off topic anyone know what stablizer setup he uses

@LancasterArcherySupply 10 ай бұрын

On this bow, it's all Axcel Carboflax bars....

@matthewholden3823 Ай бұрын

Joel is the ducking man

@woodsmansfinest3814 Жыл бұрын

I watch everything that got the name Joel Turner on it

@bobjones8203 Ай бұрын

What happened to his insta? I can't find it

@royhoglund1322 Жыл бұрын

SHOT IQ - worth every penny!

@bfittock Жыл бұрын

just point and shoot I'm not convinced. this release will help that much. for someone that has target panic issues ect sometimes a click can make the issue worse

@jgartrell3687 11 ай бұрын

Have you looked into shot IQ? If you have TP you should. Wish I had it 10 years ago

@ajbholsters2035 Жыл бұрын

Single Digit Manipulation? Oh, you mean press the trigger. Why not just say that?

@raphael6488 Ай бұрын

Hi ajb holsters I mean the things he says make sense but he makes the sound fancy for selling purposes.

@ajbholsters2035 Ай бұрын

@@raphael6488 I know. Most of his schtick is basic marksmanship adapted to archery and surrounded with pseudo-psychological nonsense to justify the price tag. There is good info in there, but it's not worth $250, IMO.

@brooksmaxey9745 Жыл бұрын

"Single digit manipulation" aka punch it

@Ccj0711 Жыл бұрын

Not at all. He’s saying using your thumb to move the trigger in a way that actually makes it fire rather than pulling with your whole arm or back and adding tons of pressure to the bow that doesn’t actually help the release fire. With that being said pressure is good and it’s ultimately what makes the bow be still.

@phantomcruizer Жыл бұрын

🤔 Oh, punch it lightly then.

@raphael6488 Ай бұрын

@@phantomcruizerNo it is still a surprise shot but moving the trigger with your thumb slowly until it breaks.

@hakopawilkie5690 Жыл бұрын

Isn't single digit manipulation trigger punching? I'm confused.

@glenncharles6622 Жыл бұрын

No, because as I understand it, single digit manipulation is a continuation of what got you to the click. It will still yield a surprise shot because the motion is slow enough to stop. There is no stopping once you decide to punch the trigger. This at least is my understanding of his method.

@ajbholsters2035 Жыл бұрын

Pressing the trigger deliberately or commanding the shot is not the same as punching a release. "Punching" implies rushing the shot and loosing the arrow before you are relaxed and settled on target. Commanding the shot just means you are on target and decide when the arrow is going to fire instead of letting it surprise you.

@jasonnester9514 Жыл бұрын

I just aim on the center hit trigger why complicate it

@joshpitts7256 Жыл бұрын

That'll work for a while

@jasonnester9514 Жыл бұрын

@@joshpitts7256 it’s worked well for me for 26 years

@ajbholsters2035 Жыл бұрын

Adding more syllables to the explanation makes it sound more profound.

@user-re3ki1qw7m Жыл бұрын

It's all a money gimic for Mr. T. This contradicts all his other lessons he teaches. So now you gotta buy this new release take another seminar and become a pro 😂😂😂😂

@jasonnester9514 Жыл бұрын

@@user-re3ki1qw7m yup I’m not buying lol

@nathangross7216 26 күн бұрын

This is not the proper way to shoot a release people do not shoot this way. This needs to be shot the same as a hinge. Set your thumb on the barrel as you anchor and relax into the click, then some more relaxation while building tension will make it fire. Pulling the trigger is wrong wrong wrong