Lance Armstrong & Paul Kimmage verbal battle at Tour of California 2009

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Lance Armstrong & Paul Kimmage verbal battle at Tour of California 2009

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15 жыл бұрын

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Watch what happens when Paul Kimmage from the UK Sunday Times confronts Lance Armstrong on doping issues during the Amgen Tour of California Press Conference. "What is it about those dopers you admire so much?"
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@stratocaster1986able 10 жыл бұрын

I imagine vindication for Kimmage was an incredibly liberating feeling, something that he knew would eventually come but just didn't know when. Kimmage is a legend.

@institorisinstitoris959 6 жыл бұрын

With that sort of legends...well...look at this world...

@nathanielkahn9681 5 жыл бұрын

low bar for a "legend"

@jonescrusher1 4 жыл бұрын

@@nathanielkahn9681 Nope, Armstrong can get fucked

@nathanielkahn9681 4 жыл бұрын

@captain pugwash Please read carefully, I did not defend him. Everything you said is true, but I never said otherwise

@nathanielkahn9681 4 жыл бұрын

@captain pugwash I'm not sure why you are telling me this? Maybe meant to reply to someone else?

@johnniejay 8 жыл бұрын

"A brave man is a man who dares to look the Devil in the face and tell him he is a Devil." - James A. Garfield

@nathanielkahn9681 5 жыл бұрын

not what happened here

@clohan84 3 жыл бұрын

Paul Kimmage is one of the best investigative journalists that has ever been involved in cycling. He persisted through thick and thin, even when Lance and Team Sky mounted vicious legal battles to suppress his exposés. The lickspittles journalist crew who chuckled away at the end of this clip should be ashamed of themselves and their enabling of Armsrong.

@timtaylor9590 Жыл бұрын

are you and him the biggest morons of all time?

@Colddeed 10 жыл бұрын

I guess Kimmage get's the last laugh.

@DanielC__ 3 жыл бұрын

Not really. Armstrong is still worth millions and Kimmage is a popper.

@fredb0714 10 жыл бұрын

That is a perfect example of how hard it was to take Lance down. When I hear people say Lance was unfairly singled out I point to cases like this that have nothing to do with the fact he doped. It is all about his constant character assassinations ("you are not worth the chair you are sitting on") that he did to Paul Kimmage, David Walsh, Emma O'Reilly, the Andreau's etc., etc., etc. Lance has got everything he deserves.

@PanchoVillasTortilla 11 ай бұрын

Armstrong was a master manipulator with powerful rhetoric and at his core a total bully that i would argue most hyper successful men are. That said he also he raised millions for cancer treatment. Im not arguing that one cancels the other, but it makes the lore of Armstrong very strange and conflicted. Other fraudsters make and steal money and leave victims, Armstrong made millions for cancer patients while defrauding corporate sponsors who made millions themselves on viewership. It’s all very weird.

@Ldoggmillionaire 7 ай бұрын

But thats no way to run a sport. You only lose your titles for doping if you also are a prick personally. Dope all you want as long as your nice to people, you can keep your titles. Its ludicrous

@keithcarass2529 9 жыл бұрын

Fair play to Lance winning all those tour de France's I couldn't even find my bike when I was on drugs lol

@markalexwhite 2 жыл бұрын

Legendary comment! Congrats Sir! 🙂

@Caravanaserai 10 жыл бұрын

Funny thing, the sponsor AMGEN (a pharmaceutical company displayed in the back) is one of the leading producers of EPO in the world!

@stargazerspark4499 7 жыл бұрын

Caravanaserai chronic EPO use combined with steroids = cancer

@johnkelleher1877 6 жыл бұрын

The nervous laugh from the crowd at the end, sycophants. As we all were at the time, myself included. This was when lance was at peak popularity, an absolute superstar. It took character to up against that in such a public forum.

@conradmtd 10 жыл бұрын

Nothing but admiration for Paul Kimmage. He made a stand and sacrificed his own reputation to expose a cheat when those around him fell silent. I hope RTE puts his documentary on the RTE Player so more people can see it. Well done Paul and keep exposing the truth.

@nathanielkahn9681 5 жыл бұрын

nothing to admire

@oliver69cork46 4 жыл бұрын

@@nathanielkahn9681 to hide the truth is admirable is it?

@nathanielkahn9681 4 жыл бұрын

@@oliver69cork46 i dont know what you mean

@timtaylor9590 Жыл бұрын

they all cheat you moron so his entire career would be nothing but talking shit to cheaters? thats every single athlete. you ppl are dumb af

@KDoc1951 7 жыл бұрын

Paul Kimmage's persistence paid off. Armstrong is everything you don't want your child to be - a creep.

@EndaRochford 11 жыл бұрын

Proud to be Irish. Well done Paul Kimmage

@KOHF34 7 жыл бұрын

You do have to give Lance credit for one thing: he is one of the greatest scam artists in American history. Kudos, Paul Kimmage.

@rockymountainhigh9379 4 жыл бұрын

The biggest problem is they all doped. Lance was the best cyclist during his time. Don't forget, 87% of the riders who placed below Armstrong in the top 20 during the tour were popped for doping.

@Unborn-Stillborn 4 жыл бұрын

@@rockymountainhigh9379 he wasnt the best cyclist at the time or even close. He came nowhere when he and others were clean. Even he admits this. The only advantage he had over others is that he had a better doping system . Get your facts right.

@rockymountainhigh9379 4 жыл бұрын

@@Unborn-Stillborn Scam, you're obviously a rookie cycling fan. Being a lance hater is fine and jealousy is a natural human instinct however anyone that is a veteran cyclist and cycling fan knows my facts are correct. Spew your hatred but we all know no one could beat Lance in his prime. The guy was beating the best pro triathletes in the world when he was 16. Get a clue scam.

@Unborn-Stillborn 4 жыл бұрын

@@rockymountainhigh9379 armstrong was a national triathlon champion 1989 and 1990. Never a world champion. Which all has nothing to do with his cycling stats. He was nowhere in cycling until he juiced, unless you think you know more that the people who called him out on these stats. But i get it, you probably still have a yellow wrist band and find it hard to accept that he was nothing but a lying cheating bully.

@rockymountainhigh9379 4 жыл бұрын

@@Unborn-StillbornScam, you are going to lose this debate. Without debate Lance destroyed the competition for 7 years. Please give up now. Do your research and you can agree with me afterwards.

@killboggins 10 жыл бұрын

Notice how all y'all who supported Armstrong are very quiet.

@tiehut 8 жыл бұрын

+killboggins millions of dumb asses still admire lance

@pavanatanaya 5 жыл бұрын

tiehut millions of dumbasses are dumbasses

@niconesta8566 5 жыл бұрын

I supported that asshole all 7 tours I rooted for that Texas fraud. After it was revealed I emailed that scum that he cheated me out of 7x3=21 weeks of life. I only recently started following cycling again thanks to this arrogant prick. Yes i too believed his great lies he was so persuasive and was smart enough to use cancer to cover his lies. A sick psychopath who I think needs to do some jailtime for fraud. A French jail please. LIESTRONG! Btw every brand he has worn I stay away from.

@rockymountainhigh9379 4 жыл бұрын

The biggest problem is they all doped. Lance was the best cyclist during his time. Don't forget, 87% of the riders who placed below Armstrong in the top 20 during the tour were popped for doping.

@colinmontgomery1956 4 жыл бұрын

I never liked Armstrong.

@DJT3D 10 жыл бұрын

1:33 Neither are you, Lance

@DuncanPalmer1984 12 жыл бұрын

I lost my Mum to cancer. I have no reason to have to forgive Kimmage for anything. He is courageous in his journalism. Keep up the good work.

@alcoyne3333333333333 Жыл бұрын

R.I.P

@sambosmans3473 2 ай бұрын

especially when you stop and think about HGH making cancer (or tumors) grow faster, which he has admited taking before his diagnosis. RIP to your mother.

@colinfinlayson3212 11 жыл бұрын

It's amazing that there were people actually laughing Kimmage off. Ridiculous! Bravo Paul!

@GodOfVictory501 10 жыл бұрын

Nice to see Lance's dumb and naive apologists have been silenced. Kudos to Paul Kimmage for doing the brave thing and confronting that malignant cheat Armstrong.

@tiehut 8 жыл бұрын

+Robot Lover millions of dumb asses still admire lance

@navylaks2 5 жыл бұрын

I think it was Armstrongs lying which drove Robin Williams to take his own life

@Dessienewshoes 5 жыл бұрын

When Lance says 'noble' I lost it.

@TheVinokourov 13 жыл бұрын

Hincapie and Leipheimer, the thousand yard stare...I can't wait for the day it all comes out!

@cyczanin 3 жыл бұрын

Great observation.

@joostvw3692 2 жыл бұрын

It all came out indeed!

@PastyIrishBoy 9 жыл бұрын

What a disgrace, Not so smart now is he? Good Riddance and well done to Paul for having the brevity to confront him about it!

@Keepitgoinging 6 жыл бұрын

Gerard O'Connor brevity?

@Keepitgoinging 6 жыл бұрын

Gerard O'Connor brevity has nothing to do with being brave.

@jaklgjklwejkjfkdjsa 10 жыл бұрын

The look at 0:56 on Hincapie and Leipheimer is like "duhhhhhh." They know he doped and they're just caught in the headlights.

@samanthaoaklandcd 10 жыл бұрын

Mr. Kimmage was moderately successful in racing himself, in Europe and a bit in America. He has written an excellent book, "A Rough Ride," which examines racing and the doping situation in some depth. It's difficult to hear the dialogue in this video. Is there a transcript available?

@Tracywithafacey 11 жыл бұрын

Lance spent much of his best years in cycling making statements to appear above many people. He always made it seem like everybody else was on such a lower moral ground than him, that they were such horrible people. The fact is a cancer is a malignant growth or tumour, and Lance was exactly that. How things have changed since this occurred in 2009. One cannot underestimate how much of a battering Lance's ego will have taken in 2012, and rightly so. David Walsh and Paul Kimmage, we salute you.

@timtaylor9590 Жыл бұрын

idiot you got it backwards ppl attacked lance for doing what everyone else did and does to this day, sorry he's not a bitch like you

@bobfoc1979 14 жыл бұрын

It is that diplomatic, fair and respectful attitude that makes Lance so admired by so many people. Watching a true gentleman deal with sleazy press is a joy. I wish Lance all the best.

@mytyrel420 3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@user-fy6xv6xw7n 3 жыл бұрын

This comment didn't age well 🤣

@DavidL999 11 жыл бұрын

Great to see Paul finally vindicated after all these years!

@alexanderh9878 Жыл бұрын

Yep.

@mahlstadt 11 жыл бұрын

Inspirational. It takes an immense effort to exude such self-confidence and repress all self-doubt during an interrogation. I challenge anyone here to do this and then skilfully manipulate the crowd against the questioner. A masterful performance by Armstrong.

@Gintonious 11 жыл бұрын

Will you give him that interview now, Lance?

@wngdfeet 14 жыл бұрын

I love George and Levi's expression "mommy and daddy are fighting!" lol

@br7an 15 жыл бұрын

Kimmage is one of the top European sports writers, multi award winning and usually extremely witty. He wrote a great book about cycling which mentioned doping from is personal perspective. He was an Irish champion cyclist as was his father,uncles and brothers. Cycling means a lot to him and he seems to be the only journalist in the world that cares about stopping Doping in cycling. People want to hang him for his use of a metaphor rather than listen to what he has to say.

@user-fy6xv6xw7n 3 жыл бұрын

This comment aged like a fine wine..

@stephenkennelly 15 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting up the full version rather than just the St. Lance retort. It puts context on Kimmage's 'Cancer' comment.

@onlyone23km 2 жыл бұрын

“You’re not worthy of the chair you’re sitting in.” And you’re not worthy of any of the shit you won.

@jonwoolhouse3801 10 жыл бұрын

All three should have had a custodial sentence , the same as Marion Jones,,,

@TrueBlueGirl1 11 жыл бұрын

Armstrong dug himself a MUCH bigger hole with that interview and pwned himself royally! Paul Kimmage and David Walsh are LEGENDS.

@darkstorm207 11 жыл бұрын

Mr. Kimmage, you sir are a hero and have my utmost respect.

@shellsbignumber2 4 жыл бұрын

George Hincapie with that Thousand-yard stare.

@lightstalkerme 11 жыл бұрын

Paul Kimmage, Every true fan of cycling around the world thanks you for your work against drug cheats ........ Really honestly you have done an incredible thing you are a man of true character. THANK YOU PAUL

@MarkQuirke 9 жыл бұрын

I laugh at this every time I watch it. The cheat got caught......finally! You could see the anger and sheer arrogance in his face!

@HassleCat 11 жыл бұрын

They were head over heels in love with him, for sure. I like how Armstrong tries to twist Kimmages objections to doping into an attack on cancer victims. What a butthead.

@adaptivo3692 Жыл бұрын

The level of righteousness is quite unbelievable and I hope history remembers the good guy with integrity and courage long after the hypocrite and deceiver is forgotten.

@nejamo 4 ай бұрын

“You don’t have a patent on cancer” perfect response

@EMC2Scotia 12 жыл бұрын

Interesting the comments by Armstrong about Landis not feeling like he has anything to be sorry for. How times have changed!! Bravo Kimmage, for standing up for the good of the sport.

@Charlienmeg 11 жыл бұрын

Hincapie, Leipheimer (both dopers) and every member of the press in that room should bow down and beg Kimmage's forgiveness. He and Walsh (and the savvie people of the sport) knew the truth and I don't doubt there were people in that audience who knew it too but chose to ignore it, all because of this 'idol' called Armstrong.

@cloudminder5899 2 жыл бұрын

Perfect example of this horrible man's despicable behaviour

@flybynightrush 12 жыл бұрын

My heart goes out to the guy.

@whateveritsnoyes 10 жыл бұрын

maybe not disgust but perhaps guilt. he knew that Paul Kimmage was speaking the truth.

@mccalljeff Жыл бұрын

George and Levi were just staring off into space lol

@sisumatom 13 жыл бұрын

Lance Armstrong is not fit to clean Paul Kimmage' shoes....Kimmage has the real guts here and he remains a true HERO of cycling as history will prove.

@markyboyire 12 жыл бұрын

paul my man ,time just shows the real truth that you have spoken all along

@j.c.n9718 3 жыл бұрын

He fooled everyone including myself, made me realize we know nothing about all the people we follow religiously in the media.

@4637812648 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting to watch the reactions of fellow dopers Hincapie, Leipheimer and Basso sitting next to Armstrong.

@geothunder1971 3 жыл бұрын

All Ferrari’s boys

@EM-wd2vg 3 жыл бұрын

Love the look on Phil Liggett's face, I believe then he knew then that Kimmage was right, and he was.

@OhHonestlyDear 15 жыл бұрын

By the way. the journalist in question is paul kimmage. a former pro cyclist who has ridden the tour de france on 3 occasions as a pro and was a respected team player during the 80's. his book, rough ride is very well worth a read.

@aidancoyne8976 4 жыл бұрын

Lance came back from cancer and finished 7 tours de France. Would have been amazing to finish a single tour after cancer. He could have finished a tour without doping. Give him a break.. he was a victim of sport, like many others.. How many of you have finished a tour? or even started one!

@02cadget 12 жыл бұрын

Maybe its easy to say now but the thoughtful, sometimes awkward, looks on the faces of Hincapie and Leipheimer when Armstrong is talking are intriguing to say the least

@zachwong7324 10 жыл бұрын

Haha all the other Americans and riders up there look soooooo uncomfortable like George, Levi, etc.

@sedras999 11 жыл бұрын

Paul Kimmage, you are an inspiration. This clip should be mandatory in journalism classes. Thank you for having the strength to stand up to the bully while all the other "journalists" in the room sat silent. They should be ashamed. And you are also very quick under stress saying to Armstrong, "you don't have a patent on cancer". That is so bang on. He taught generations of kids that doing drugs will make you successful and rich. Great lesson, Lance. Thanks for correcting it Paul.

@grilled15 14 жыл бұрын

Kimmage is necessary. And relevant. Thanks, Paul, for having the nuts to question the biggest fraud to ever grace sports.

@FootballFinn863 11 жыл бұрын

Yes he did dope when he was cycling. His book 'a rough ride' is a great sports book and in it he tells of why and how he doped in detail.

@alcoyne3333333333333 Жыл бұрын

If Paul was a US journalist they would have been a Hollywood blockbuster about him ☘️🇮🇪🇮🇪

@e.t926 10 ай бұрын

Im just watching document called "the armstrong lie" and had to come here to watch this.

@herefordmsv 11 жыл бұрын

The fact of the matter is that was an era where everyone was doping.

@MX76er 11 ай бұрын

“You are not worth the chair you sit on” Perhaps the greatest sociopathic narcissistic projection of all time

@dublinodonnell 11 жыл бұрын

I remember a few months ago, scrolling down through the comments and seeing so many of Lance's deluded fans aggressively defending him by insulting the credibility of others. Where are they now? The last 10 seconds of this video is so telling: Lance says "Getting back to the Tour of California", people applaud and even the person shooting this starts laughing. In the face of all this and the sycophants, it took a small number of journalists a decade or more of their lives to uncover this cheat.

@slantyrock 11 жыл бұрын

Pure excellence. I'd love to sit Lance down, and play this to him over and over.

@migdel1983 15 жыл бұрын

Yes, spot on there Hayes. Armstrong isn't usually challenged directly. I agree with many others though that Kimmage could have used a less contentious choice of words. But he's also right, Armstrong doesn't have "a patent on cancer"

@jamesegan9352 12 жыл бұрын

Sport needs more heroes like Paul Kimmage. He's more of a hero than Lance Armstrong ever will be!

@AdamBrussGoGo 10 жыл бұрын

George was on Lance's team through the doping years. He was doping too. He got blood transfusions in the same room Lance got them. The disgust is not at Lance.

@zachbernst 11 жыл бұрын

Oh, the backdrop is perfect! (Amgen is the producer of EPO.)

@blacktoothfox677 2 жыл бұрын

you gotta love those corporate sponsors..!

@muradtalukdar4401 4 жыл бұрын

There is a certain irony in realising that AMGEN actually produce EPO on a commercial scale...

@smutner 12 жыл бұрын

You're wrong. Paul Kimmage has gone after other athletes, such as Michelle Smith De Bruin, the swimmer who won 3 gold and 1 bronze medal for Ireland at the Olympics in Atlanta 1996. He is vehemently against all doping in all sports.

@schoolofgrowthhacking 9 жыл бұрын

Paul, please take on dopers in the animal sport world, horse and dog racing.

@dan45454545 11 жыл бұрын

Paul Kimmage, you saved cycling. Balls of steel

@animegalc4 12 жыл бұрын

No matter what you say about Kimmage, he's been proved right. Try not to shoot the messenger. And let Kelly & Roche speak for themselves.

@Morpheus0000 13 жыл бұрын

"You don't have a patent on cancer suffering". In one brief sentence kimmage defuses Arnstrong's 5 minute rant. Cheap shot from Lance to suggest Kimmage didn't care about cancer because he uses the metaphor to express the disease of cycling: doping denial.

@jonathantaff3007 8 жыл бұрын

The bigger picture is what he did for those suffering from cancer. Maybe he was more motivated to dope to bring in more money for his foundation. Then, so what. Lance, in spite of cheating (as many others) you are still an amazing man who has SAVED many lives and put millions of bums on bikes.People who are significantly fitter and healthier, living longer lives for the the loved ones and and and. Good on you Lance!!!

@stargazerspark4499 7 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Taff maybe next Lance can advocate young athletes to turn away from the doping that in all likelihood contributed to his cancer in the first place.

@PhilAndersonOutside 13 жыл бұрын

Anyone who doesn't think Lance doped really needs to do just a little research into the issue. I suggest you start with the Michael Ashenden interview.

@usernamealredytaken 12 жыл бұрын

Surely a verbal insult is more forgiveable than someone who lives a lie to cheat those, that have sacrifised their whole lives, of the success they deserve. Sickener!

@tybo09 14 жыл бұрын

It showed it so clearly that he wasn't disqualified, right?

@PInk77W1 2 жыл бұрын

Paul Kimmage is the greatest

@CodySDivineCreators 11 жыл бұрын

Why did he start ranting about cancer when the reporter asked about doping?

@mahlstadt 11 жыл бұрын

"I'm not sure that anyone around the world that has been affected by this disease will forgive you."

@sohoyankee66 13 жыл бұрын

This place is full of experts. How about we let the professionals who have all the facts do the job.

@toomtoom61 11 жыл бұрын

2.Everyone doesn’t make a commercial for Nike in which he ridicules any suggestion that he was ever “on” anything other than his bicycle, “busting my ass six hours a day.”

@ObsieWobsie 15 жыл бұрын

Two things: 1.) I dont think he ever won a race as a professional. 2.) As far as I know, he never outright accused Kelly or Roche of using illegal performance enhancing substances--in fact, in a later edition of his book, in which he admits to doping, he made a point of pointing out that he refused to answer journalists questions about any knowledge he might have about possible doping by Kelly or Roche. Ironic, Id say.

@SportIrish 11 жыл бұрын

Very appropriately named.

@HassleCat 11 жыл бұрын

Armstrong trying to bully his critics. Then he throws in a little "I'm the victim here." Disgusting.

@scooby1971 13 жыл бұрын

As Lance is ripping the reporter, the guy on the left is thinking: I just know that woman behind me is staring at the back of my head. I can feel her glaring eyeballs burning through my brains The guy on the right: I wonder if that woman behind us is staring at me. I should ask her out on a date. Oh wait...did I leave the iron on? You know, maybe if I can get her to go out with me, I can get her to iron my clothes. Wow, look at all of the girls out there. I wish they could ride along with us!

@LeeH688 15 жыл бұрын

While Paul Kimmage's words were not very well chosen there is no doubting his heart is in the right place. Having read his book it is clear that Kimmage is not bitter because of his lack of professional success, he admits on countless occasions it was his lack of mental strength as a cyclist.

@podilato 15 жыл бұрын

Good on Paul Kimmage to pose a difficult question to the 'Special One' in a room with Armstrong's disciples. The arrogance of Armstrong knows no bounds. Armstrong's blatant hypocrisy is breathtaking but not only is it unchallenged his bullying gets applause from a lot of journalists in the room also. Shame on them!

@grilled15 14 жыл бұрын

1999 - failed corticosteroid test. Same tour - 6 piss sample positive for EPO.

@laochranangael 11 жыл бұрын

His denial of drug use is not the problem for most people. Rather it is his horrific treatment of Emma O'Reilly, whom he labelled an alcoholic whore, his treatment of a true hero, Christophe Bassons, whom he bullied out of the tour, his treatment of the Andreus, his usage of a deadly disease as a shield against being subject to due scrutiny and so forth. His drug usage is largely irrelevant except for the fact that it revealed the limitless and deplorable depths to which Armstrong would sink.

@sadlkfjdsal 11 жыл бұрын

Paul Kimmage has brass. To do that back in 2009, in a room full of members of the media who were clearly buying into Lance, as can be inferred by the laughing at the end. Then sit there through the rest of the interview. Cajones.

@drdree8396 2 жыл бұрын

The very least he owes him is an apology

@sullivanbiddle9979 2 жыл бұрын

Sociopaths don't apologize so I wouldn't hold my breath if I was Kimmage.

@migdel1983 15 жыл бұрын

Kimmage's crusade isn't about being a "hater" and he doesn't have a personal crusade against Armstrong... it's about the truth. Or at least trying to expose the truth. He cares passionately about sport - and especially cycling - being drug-free He does have previous... in the 96 Olympics the US press had serious reservations about Irish swimmer Michelle Smith. And Kimmage was one of the few Irish journalists to agree with them and point out how much reasonable doubt there was about here

@theterrible1 15 жыл бұрын

Is there such a thing as a journalist of integrity? Maybe I've been reading the Daily Mail too much...

@MrHellojoe11 12 жыл бұрын

Dope? What are you talking about? I had cancer you know. I've only got one ball.

@cnoc1916 11 жыл бұрын

oh sure his choice of words (cancer) weren't great, but he's a passionate man who is fighting for his sport and sometimes over passionate. but i'm glad he's won the his battle.