what so heroic about that?!Do you think she would have snitched on Lance, had she been his wife (with all that money!) GTFO!

@@tellall23 That's the stupidest comment I have ever read

talking about his private conversation with his doctor..is genius? GTFO

I know right!!?? That had me squirming with delight

I preferred Bull Burrs interpretation of the interview 😆

SMH! Armstrong is a narcissistic sociopath who attacked Betsy,Emma,David,Paul,Greg etc etc. Lance tried to destroy their lives because they knew the truth about him!

Everyone was doping . Still the greatest rider of his generation .EPO doesn't turn a mule into a race horse

@@davidclymo7285 No ! but liquid testosterone, growth hormone, steroids and a nice top-up of EPO certainly has a great effect. A 2% increase in performance gives you a 2 mile advantage over 100 miles, especially when you're doping to that degree. That is huge. no wonder he contracted cancer, ,and he knew FULLY what the risks were, he was a pro !. But even after the cancer he continued with the program, , ,it was only a matter of time !. Sorry ! but his ego hung him. By far the greatest rider to come out of the USA was Greg Lemond, his shooting accident robbed him of several more TDF wins, and probably the cleanest rider in TDF history.

Armstrong for President? He's certainly qualified!

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@@tooleyheadbang4239 sarcasm

Düsseldorfつくば He’s what a real journalist should be!

komme auch aus Düsseldorf

That’s the story

Pro scene sucks.

Everybody looked the other way for years and continues to now.

Lance even “donated” money to the UCI after he tested positive and they came up with some bullsh*y excuse for his positive test. The whole sport was crooked.

Very observant of you. It never occurred to me,.Thanks.

david buda Backing up your wife when she's being unnecessarily contentious or controversial is one thing...........backing up a bald faced lie designed to hurt someone out of pure unprovoked maliciousness (not even as a justifiable revenge).........is not something most people would condone.

It is - check "The program".

Was it cheating if everyone was doing it?

hey guess who was lemond first coach. eddy b. the 1984 us cycling team coach from east germany. ever heard of blood transfusions. oh yah, thats the old school way to bring your blood values up and win races. emm, crazy

Everyone was doped.

merckx clearly didn't dope

Matthew Dennis Clearly.

mofomartian things like epo were not invented yet.

only thing he could have had was amphetamines

Merckx has doped during his career. Merckx has been disqualified from cycling three times due to positive tests. 1969 - fencamfamine 1973 - norephedrine 1977 - pemoline

Well, I for one am incredibly grateful to him for exposing this fraud at all costs. Armstrong ruined many, many lives with his actions and his ruthless treatment of anyone who would not lie for him or cover up his actions has ruined the sport of cycling. All kids ride bikes and many dream of racing them. What he did was huge.Please don't diminish it, Shaun.

....but he is and will always be a sports writer, added to the fact that he hounded Armstrong over all those years, against "the odds", is for me one of the great feats of journalism in sports reporting....

first off Lance was not the first and will not be the last to do what he did! Guys are still getting popped today for the samething! It was before him and it will be after him! stop saying Lance ruined the sport! what a crock a shit! The guy wanted to win at all costs and rolled over anyone who ran their mouths. So what?? every one of these people that he "ruined" have than, and still now are profiting from their stories! To call Lance a fraud is to call the sport a fraud! There are athletes at the top level of every sport getting nailed for drugs. Lance was the best so you take down the best because hes the biggest target! Lance won races because he had a cyclist "gift" so to speak... he sucked in the hills before cancer! during cancer he had a chance to rebuild his body, along with the drugs so he could compete in the hills and dominate every other stage! This freaking David Walsh who is calling Lance a fraud has done nothing but made money off Lance's name! Hes the fradu here! Lance has been exposed.. hes no longer the great Lance Armstrong.. Lance is nothing now! He has won as many TDF as I have in the books! David Walsh and what he did was not HUGE! Instead of exposing the sport as a whole he chose Lance! He called out one man for doing what so many have done before him and are still doing right now in the sport! He ruined the name of the sport not Lance! Hes a freaking tool! Why is he not investigating these guys now?? oh thats right he is living off the money he made from Lance! lol what a joke he is!

jmoorebucks16 You've just managed to write one of the most (if not THE most) absurd comments I've ever seen on KZfaq, and I've seen 100's of them. Congratulations.

Lol stupid facts! They are so absurd! Nice try on being funny though

erm its been running for 100 years and quite a few of those riders completed it surely without PEDs? correct me if im wrong but compared to 50 years ago the competition has been stripped down and not as gruelling as it once was before.

@@standardtuning4guitars423 athletes where on another level back in the day, in all sports.

I just read a great book: "Wheelmen" by Vanessa O'Connell and Reed Albergotti. Highly recommend it. I think the answer to your question is "No". It would be nice to think so, but when you read what the bikers themselves have to say, the answer is obvious. Not to say that they aren't incredible athletes with astounding tolerance for pain and exhaustion, but still, the answer is "No".

and introduced lance to ferrari. walsh is just another fanboy who didnt like his heros merx and lemond being surpassed. he knows better but youre right hes a Hypocrite

What a peace of hypocrisy!

but epo was only available for sale in 89. how could they have gotten hold of it? im sure mr clean, greg lemond would have never touched that stuff, right????????

I think that's the wrong response to have. There's no evidence that current winners are doping. Whereas Armstrong failed a drug test in 1999, and then he was discovered to be seeing the doping doctor Michele Ferrari in 2001. And of course Armstrong was originally not a climber at all, more of a puncheur who won bunch sprints and could barely keep up on the climbs. Then suddenly after his cancer he was dropping the best climbers in the world. Not to mention that all the stuff they took back then like EPO and testosterone is much easier to detect now. I'm sure some riders in the peloton are going to try and bend the rules but I haven't seen anything to suggest it's anything like it was in the late 90s / early 00s.

@@dc8890 I guess Froomey is just genetically gifted. You don't think it's just his asthma puff that would have him leave Lance, at the height of his career, in the dust do you?

​@@ar_aktual9529 Yeah Froome probably is genetically gifted. And he's also incredibly lean, hardly anything to him, shaving as much weight as possible, assisting in the climbs. Far leaner than the cheater ever was. Yes there have been suggestions that some riders might be using drugs to help them lose weight (I think AICAR is the name of a particular drug). But there's no reports or evidence to suggest Froome is taking this. Whereas back in the early 2000s, there were definitely reports of Armstrong's guilt. It was 2001 when Walsh discovered that Armstrong had been seeing the dodgy doctor, Michele Ferrari. Also there's the fact that average speeds now are LOWER than some of Armstrong's, despite 10+ years of advancements in bike technology, aerodynamics, power meters, nutrition, training (warming up and warming down on turbo trainers didn't used to exist; now every single team does it, so clearly it must have a benefit). And also there's the fact that EPO, one of the most powerful PEDs used for cycling, is much easier to detect now. And also there's the fact that Froome does not seem at all like the kind of arrogant bullying twat that Armstrong was. Froome was willing to support his teammate, Geraint Thomas, in the 2018 TdF, when it was clear that G was in a better position to win. Armstrong would not have done that in a million fucking years. And do you think G is on drugs too, and what about Egan Bernal? Like I said, I'm sure some riders in the peloton are trying to bend the rules, or maybe completely flout them. But we haven't seen any evidence to suggest that Ineos are cheating. They used TUEs, sure, but TUEs are legal. And all other teams are using TUEs too. Maybe in 5/10 years we'll discover things that we don't currently know. But I would be surprised if Ineos are flouting the rules as flagrantly as US Postal did. I would be surprised if they are systematically using banned substances.

Deplorable Citizen my thoughts exactly.

Winning minor one-day races sans doping seems feasible. Grand Tours forget it

grifter84 I know! They always bring up other cyclists when defending Lance.

If you are going to hate him then you have to hate a ton of other cyclists and even the UCI. He is a face on something much bigger

Comments defending Armstrong prove how crooks like him get away with so much for so long.

@@agua414 Yes well let's hate a ton of cyclists then!! I would like to know where the top placed GC clean rider finished because that's the true winner of any tour or race is. Whether he's first, 20th or 180th. If we are going to excuse cheats on the basis of other cheats then we might as well give in. One thing Armstrong and ALL the other cheats in cycling history cannot ever deny. They couldn't ride the race without the help of a drug and if the highest placed clean rider at the finish is 53rd say well he is the champion. The record books won't say it but Armstrong and all the other cheats, past so called winners also will know that truth however much they try to console themselves with other cheats in racing. Not every rider in the peloton was dirty!

This wasn’t about cheating in sport, this was always about bringing down Lance.

Walsh lost his credibility, was allowed travel with team sky. Impartiality compromised right there

sad but true, fam

I disagree. From my perspective, they are becoming a better channel. Why? 1) They are expanding their focus. When I started following them (2014), they focus almost solely on road cycle racing. That got me into road cycling, but doesn’t interest me that much because I’m more interested in riding bikes myself than watching others race. Since 2018 they started making contents on ultra endurance cycling, bikepacking, and bike touring. Some of those contents (especially some of the epic rides) are very inspiring to me. Some of those contain clear paid promotions but imo it doesn’t compromise the overall quality in most cases and they are able to really improve their presentation and cinematography bc of it. 2) They started promoting a more inclusive, scientific cycling culture. You might disagree with this. But in my opinion road cycling has been known for its elitism and exclusivity. Over the recent years, GCN started to encourage people to break arbitrary cycling rules if they want to (like wearing pro team or even championship jerseys or turning bikes upside down). They even embraced ebikes, delivering the message that what matters is riding bikes, not what bike you are riding and how you ride it. And more importantly, they began to promote scientific training and nutrition, making some excellent contents featuring experts, and debunked some unscientific practices they promoted in their early days (e.g. pedalling techniques). In my opinion, as a leading public voice in cycling, they are using their influence in a positive way. Because the sheer amount of videos they release, it’s easy to feel all they make now are introductory “how to” videos with the same contents. But imo if you ignore some of those “filler” contents, they are actually making more quality contents now than they were a few years ago. And I’d say they used to only contribute to road cycle racing, now they are contributing more to cycling as a whole.

Robot Lover I think Lance has taken the award for being the worst sports cheat in history. That's what people are saying now. There have always been lots of cheaters or simply people looking for a questionable edge, but Lance took cheating to a level beyond all imagination, while bullying and crushing anyone in his way.

Like Indurain? Pantani? Ulrich? Riis? Pereiro? Sastre? Rasmussen? Mayo? Basso? Vinokourov? Contador? The Schlecks? Froome? Walsh did not utter a word.

Not just him, either, the hundreds that helped him do it. I mean, Lance just took it upon himself to go with it but the doctors made it all happen.

Because he’s European and there weren’t a bunch of people like Walsh with axes to grind with him.

At age 48: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22868823 . Big Mig was probably taking something, certainly, but Indurain (as well as Lemond) possesses extraterrestrial physiology. The data points on Armstrong = middle of the road.

Loser!

le jus est delicieux!

A cheat is a cheat no matter what. Merckx took stuff to enhance his performance... that's cheating.

Lance would smash tdf even without dope. They only started investigating on it when someone beat them to it LMAO tdf was already full of dopees before Lance

Thats just. Not true .

Thats true. Greatest rider of his generation

ouagadougou62 yeah press Shift+F4 a bunch of times

+Eric Feldkamp We've worked him hard since then.

You didn't compete against anyone and you don't deserve a medal for riding a bike. You deserve a participation trophy because you are "special".

Christian Gerhardt If someone believes that there are ped's in every professional sport, than how is that person being fooled?

Well then you have not heard every single sports reporter who has indicated that we are all in for a surprise. Even archery friend even friend.

Christian Gerhardt Archery? lol the sad part is that I believe it. Not everybody in golf though...John Daly won his events while on booze, nicotine and strippers.

Jip archery and shooting beta blockers not allowed and guys get ways to do it and then get gold medals for it.

+Christian Gerhardt What about chess?

Neptune Hugh never ever saw saw dave playing gaelic but having played soccer with him i have to admit he wasn't bad at it.

George Giffords Hear hear!

And Emma O'Reilly and Betsy Andreu.

That reminds me of Doyle Lonnegan in The Sting. "What do you want me to do? Call him for cheating better than me..."

True that

It's generational. I know a few old salts that literally revere Merckx, stand in awed silence before enormous framed photos...

Too bad Merckx got caught 3x for doping. You won't see Walsh talk about him because Walsh kisses his @$$.

Probably because a lot of the people who might bring suit against him were cheating too, or profited from all the cheating. If they bring suit, all of that will come out in the open.

He even predicted that part too! Incredible....

He also had a nasty habit of turning in riders he saw as threats. I have no sympathy whatsoever for that psychopath.

not too many at the top arent selfish arrogant intimidators/bullies if under threat. sadly tends to come with the territory.

samaway Prior to 1997 it was an accepted part of the sport and no one major got busted and the penalties were a lot less if you were careless enough to get caught.Indurain rode with others on an even playing field.After 1997 people were getting busted left, right and center.......except for Lance and all his team.While no one else dared bring PED's to the Tour and relied on gains they'd made with them prior to the Tour, Lance used a motor biker to transport the drugs to all the various stages, injected and did transfusions on the tour bus and in the hotel with sophisticated means of getting rid of the evidence.He was never a Tour rider (his record pre 96 proves that), but by being able to top up with PEDs whilst his competition didn't dare, he was able to steal a march on them and not feel pain when he surpassed them.Once anyone left his team they got caught pretty quick....Tyler Hamilton for example. The moment Lance was out of the team Floyd Landis got busted.Lance had his positive results covered up.You save 30%of your energy hiding behind a team mate.None of his major contenders were on the start line every year due to doping bans and none fielded a full strength team any year.Major talents young like Pantani (Tour winner) and Berzin (Giro winner) were busted out of the sport.This was not an even playing field........he had unfair advantages.......while it's scientifically proven that he didn't have the best engine.Prior to the big drug busts of 1997 and '98it was an accepted thing, After that people began getting busted....everyone.......check it out........except for Lance and anyone in the U.S Postal Team while they were in the team

samaway Merckx on the crap drugs of his day was way better than Lance on EPO. He didn't just ride the Tour, he rode everything, often winning by huge margins.

joynthis The "quality" of the drugs is second to their normalization, for both (possibly all?) eras, which is precisely my point... As for Merckx winning all types of events, I think that speaks more to the degree of specialization body is sport science today. Look up the "big bang of body types" (discussed in David Epstein's Ted Talk and elsewhere). Pretty fascinating...

You forget to mention that he used his battle with cancer to deflect criticism. He stood up and said in an interview that as a cancer survivor he wouldn't dare dope. As a survivor myself I find that despicable. Little wonder the foundation that bore his name took no time at all to jettison him. He has zero credibility. I hope he is consigned to the dustbin of history forever together with Ferrari and that snake Bruyneel

For your ignorance what Armstrong did is being done now, in the future and past. It is the scale at which he did it that caught a lot of people by surprise. When you think in life that you are bigger than life your self eg GOD, it is bound to bite you in the ass sooner or later. I have friends who are professional cyclists who rode "Worked"for him and there was zero tolerance for not being on the band wagon. I have met the man on a few occasions and he seems to be driven to the point where he has a disease far worse than cancer and the whole world saw this behaviour

chrisegan19681 cancer makes a nice shield to hide yourself when things get tight...

chrisegan19681 cancer makes a nice shield to hide yourself when things get tight...

Same goes for lance too he was best in peloton and all his rivals were all on epo or blood transfussion. The current generation are using next level stuff now not detectable atm just like epo back in lances day. They made lance a huge scapegoat

@@supertrucker2267 Absolutely agree Supertrucker. I consider Lance still as a 7 time TDF winner, no matter what the honor list is telling us...