No problem - we appreciate all the support Defender owners give our business !

and the dried up plastic....

a small light bump will end your fun.

The emphasis is trying to reduce single use plastic. The plastics used in motor manufacture are easily recycled as well as being pedestrian friendly. Take a look at most modern vehicles and you'll find the front, including the wings are made from plastic

John Dennington the joke went way over your head didn’t it.

@@JamesLivewire Obviously, guess that explains why you never made it as a comedian then 😂

Hi Mike... I think most people are warming to the Defender.... myself included... more adventures planned for this weekend !

Wise words on the jet wash !

These are the 2 points that are giving several points of concern.

Could be due to crash testing etc ?

My neighbour purshed one of the very last defenders... when driving home his rear window fell out !

powerfulukltd oh well, there you go. Don’t push the window if the vehicle weighs two tons

I think its really expensive.... i have ordered one... do you have the PN to make sure we are talking about the same thing

@@L663 i'm sure a 3rd party one will turn up very soon.

I would agree but plastics technology and production (depending on money) today is of excellent quality. Compare that to a Series 3 grille and you’ll see how far LR has come with plastics. There are places that should remain steel or aluminium but for the most part plastic is a good, durable, light weight choice.

@@FJUH Unfortunately, the video shows how robust the tabs and eyelets are.^^ The plastic grille on my S3 is still healthy. But it can simply be dipped into a metal grille. All cars are made this way. Why another one?

@@FJUH Plastic bumper in heavy duty offroader is nothing else than huge misunderstanding. Try to use hi-lift or even plow through meadows with fully grown goldenrod...

I have ordered the Land Rover metal part - lets see what that is like... also could try cutting the standard one on the laser ?

We used to run the LR Experience Discoveries and RRs without the plastic recovery eye cover. However they were quick to remove and didn't leave such a big and obvious hole at the bottom of the car. In the Defender, with the cover removed it looks like something's fallen off. My point before was that people don't think they're going to get stuck until they are - at which point removing 4 fine thread bolts that far under the car will be mildly irritating! Better to have a neat-looking solution permanently in place. LR sell a 5mm aluminium replacement with a hole in it (essentially a bash plate) but it's £840! (+ VAT?). Approach angle isn't going to be the problem for all but the most extreme cases so I doubt anyone needs the extra strength. We just need a modified plastic version with a hole in it. I might have to take the saw to mine.

@@alantd44 We have a plan - a laser cut plate to go onto the plastic cover to cover the cut edges you make in the plastic

@@L663 Put me down for one 👍

@@alantd44 £ 840 says it all, someone will just do something for £100.....

I have ordered one - lets see..

@@L663 Great, could save £s not having to buy a whole option pack!

Wow congrats on the new motor...we are looking at the winch options and the front recovery points... i did take off the little mini subframe... not sure what to do with it yet...

Not yet.... still trying to get Land Rover head office to give me a genuine one .....i dont think its going to happen !

@@L663 I'm guess you saw this ? Superior capability can be achieved through the addition of a powerful, remote control, electric winch. Designed to fit to the front of your Land Rover Defender, this winch comes with wireless remote control with a remote controlled clutch, allows safe operation away from the vehicle. Manufactured by Warn, the Zeon Platinum 10-S has a pre-set maximum pull force of 4,536kg/10,000lbs via the overload device. Supplied with 80' of 3/8” Spydura synthetic rope, making it more practical, user-friendly and easier to handle. For 90 and 110. Harness included. Requires winch mounting kit which includes winch cradle, crush cans, pedestrian-friendly winch cover, camera bezel and PDC covers for fitment and should be ordered separately. Not compatible with front expedition protection system and 'A' frame protection bar. Price: £3,162.00 Part Number: VPLEP0426

international.warn.com/zeon-10-s-platinum-winch-93680-int

Hi John... a few reasons.... 1) to remove the silver parts from the bumper and paint them black 2) to look at fitting the lower metal tow cover 3) to look at fitting a winch - now or in the future 4) to look at how the new Defender is put together.

@@L663 Ok so saving money up front and adding on after. I like it! That was the root of my question. Thank you.

You are very lucky to be able to purchase 76 series in Australia. Over here mainly in all EMEA countries Toyota doesn't sell it and it's not possible to import due to registration.

@@frd-kj5qu I think it’s an emission issue throughout Europe. South Africa can buy it and in the Middle East they get the same vehicle fitted with 1HZ diesel non TD

@@dpd6401 You maybe right but I'm more thinking of tiny market. It's a massive car from an EMEA standard. There is plenty of sport engines with higher emission values in EMEA.

Yes I was surprised as well. At least it is all plastic and you won't end up like the rear cross-member corrosion on the old model. It will be interesting to see how the electrics hold up as those connectors will get a lot of water and mud over them. It could end up being a common fault.

If you get in an an accident and all that plastic breaks, at least they won't be able to source used parts for you...:)

Mate i am so flash and rich i throw my cars away after 6 months....reminds me of Harry Enfield loadsa money kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nb6lhdmlzc3SZIk.html

They do have a lot of legislation to comply with - pedestrian safety etc

@@L663 yes, i understand but it doesn’t mean to design such awful technical solution with so many layers. Have you counted the number of parts while plugging your winch ?