In this video we show step by step removing the front bumper on our new Land Rover Defender 2020. This may be useful if you are fitting a winch or upgrading other components at the front of your Defender.
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@richardw79594 жыл бұрын
I still dislike the new Defender for its lack of utilitarianism. However, I can't stop watching your videos. Keep up the good work!
@DH-sm7sw4 жыл бұрын
The complexity of the Defender should keep Disco 4 prices up. Having had D4s and now the Defender I would say the D4 is the better and more practical vehicle.
@fenoldaston4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised, how plastic it is. Also quite disappointing lack of any better sealing for wire connectors. I'd be very disappointed if any short circuit ruin my front sensors or camera due to simple wading. The amount of mud traps inside the car is also not something that I would like to see. Shame on you JLR...
@CJC3012 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant tutorials really appreciate you taking the time to make these videos
@L663 Жыл бұрын
No problem - we appreciate all the support Defender owners give our business !
@JohnBaldwin634 жыл бұрын
Do you have a tool and parts list for these activities? I am not skilled in removing bumpers but perhaps with the knowledge you are providing and the right tools, things would be easier. Thank you.
@davidwhite49154 жыл бұрын
OMG Imagine doing this is ten years time with all the muck built up behind these panel. No Thanks
@GutoFontana4 жыл бұрын
and the dried up plastic....
@stevenmoran40604 жыл бұрын
How will that radiator work correctly after any prolonged use in a muddy environment? The plastic guard just seems perfectly designed to trap the mud.
@GutoFontana4 жыл бұрын
a small light bump will end your fun.
@DH-sm7sw4 жыл бұрын
Total of how many screws and clips?? LR should sell a large bag of assorted clips a removal tool.
@arthurpage31754 жыл бұрын
I could understand it if it was made of materials ans designed sufficiently robustly that the clips broke when you pull a part off. As a previous comment said, have a bag of assorted clips on hand, but its the trim parts (expensive) that are breaking and not the clips. Also why on earth do they pick fasteners with four different style heads to hold on one component (hex, torx, slot and crosshead as well as the push rivet plasic ones.)
@JamesLivewire4 жыл бұрын
I thought we were all trying to stop plastic usage?? LR cant get enough of it..
@dennij4 жыл бұрын
The emphasis is trying to reduce single use plastic. The plastics used in motor manufacture are easily recycled as well as being pedestrian friendly. Take a look at most modern vehicles and you'll find the front, including the wings are made from plastic
@JamesLivewire4 жыл бұрын
John Dennington the joke went way over your head didn’t it.
@dennij4 жыл бұрын
@@JamesLivewire Obviously, guess that explains why you never made it as a comedian then 😂
@tjgray12933 жыл бұрын
How can I get my hands on the workshop manuals you are referring to to remove the various pieces of the bumper?
@mikeclark44164 жыл бұрын
I love the new Defender ,and Simons Defender has warmed the idea of perhaps owning one oneday .BUT , I do find Im hiding behind my computor seat as he pulls panels off this new Defender ! . Its also shows that rust wont be so much a problem as this car seems very much built with plastic panels & Plastic Rivets . Love the new rear lights with the new plastic surrounds -as seen on another Video from "Powerful UK " .
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike... I think most people are warming to the Defender.... myself included... more adventures planned for this weekend !
@dartmoordave4 жыл бұрын
All the trim/panel poppers/cleats/clips are 1 time only use. Get on ebay and get a big assorted bag before you even think about starting. This is why when you've reversed and pulled the front panel off on a rock/stump/Devon lane, you have to drive home with it hanging like a lame dog. Thank god for zip ties. Jet wash the life out of it before you start.
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Wise words on the jet wash !
@promenteryrobbins4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting. That lower radiator looks really quite vulnerable down there. And accessing the front tow hook needs to be made much simpler than that. I cant imagine getting underneath in a bogged situation to remove that lower panel.
@L6634 жыл бұрын
These are the 2 points that are giving several points of concern.
@PillSharks4 жыл бұрын
My defender has 4 bolts holding the bumper on, 15 mins and it’s off!!! Love these videos because it’s doing a great job of showing what a load of rubbish Land Rover have made to replace the Defender...
@alanlobley64974 жыл бұрын
I am surprised they have placed the front tow so far back what were Land Rover thinking of as even modern cars have a front hitch but enjoyed you disassembly
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Could be due to crash testing etc ?
@markfalkowski3 жыл бұрын
Richard, I really like your videos and your know-how. I just purchased a Land Rover Defender 2021. I wanted to know how to remove the front cover to access the front tow hook if I ever get stuck? Can you help me with this? Thank you and keep the videos coming.
@FJUH4 жыл бұрын
That side radiator is bewildering! One decent Kangaroo strike and you’ll be completely disabled (obviously not a problem in the rest of the world but it is still quite vulnerable). It looks like it will be hard for the aftermarket (ARB, Ironman, TJM, etc) to create a decent bullbar with a front like that.
@williamduignan69566 ай бұрын
That wheel open molding is over 2000 u.s.
@jasongolding44803 жыл бұрын
What is the long horizontal vane in front of the radiator that opens/closes? Occasionally, when my 2020 is sitting with the power off it opens and closes and makes sort of a grinding noise?
@Hui96974 жыл бұрын
I bought one of the last Defenders available late 2015 thinking I would get the new one when it arrived. Haha, absolutely no chance. Not mine but friends who have working Defender's use them to open field gates, nudge Bull's around, push and pull general stuff etc. etc. Can you imagine the state of this new plastic SUV after just a few months of work. What a joke of a car. I think I'll wait for a real one, Ineos Grenadier maybe. Still like your channel though.
@L6634 жыл бұрын
My neighbour purshed one of the very last defenders... when driving home his rear window fell out !
@Hui96974 жыл бұрын
powerfulukltd oh well, there you go. Don’t push the window if the vehicle weighs two tons
@peopleschamp72584 жыл бұрын
Hate it or not, Land Rover has a solution for the tow hook issue. They sell a skid plate that has a cut out for the defender. For people taking it off road and want added protection us access to tow hook, you can buy the skid plate.
@L6634 жыл бұрын
I think its really expensive.... i have ordered one... do you have the PN to make sure we are talking about the same thing
@RichardCurtisImaging4 жыл бұрын
@@L663 i'm sure a 3rd party one will turn up very soon.
@drinternatg63914 жыл бұрын
Are you thinking of fitting fog lights while you have the front all off. Don’t like the access to the tow nook much. Could see recovery drivers ripping all the labels off and breaking them.
@tommyk.4454 жыл бұрын
Plastic. Farmer's nightmare. And yet only another SUV on the market. I'm sad.
@FJUH4 жыл бұрын
I would agree but plastics technology and production (depending on money) today is of excellent quality. Compare that to a Series 3 grille and you’ll see how far LR has come with plastics. There are places that should remain steel or aluminium but for the most part plastic is a good, durable, light weight choice.
@tommyk.4454 жыл бұрын
@@FJUH Unfortunately, the video shows how robust the tabs and eyelets are.^^ The plastic grille on my S3 is still healthy. But it can simply be dipped into a metal grille. All cars are made this way. Why another one?
@fenoldaston4 жыл бұрын
@@FJUH Plastic bumper in heavy duty offroader is nothing else than huge misunderstanding. Try to use hi-lift or even plow through meadows with fully grown goldenrod...
@rusplanet_45344 жыл бұрын
Good job! Go on in ways! It was very interesting! Camera don't catch a focus(((!
@michaelbrowne9842 жыл бұрын
What is the website you used for the disassemble. I work on many range rovers and land rovers and that site would help alot
@alhit0074 жыл бұрын
Once again a great video lads 👍 but now that you have those wing moulds off, why don’t you get or design new Chucky ones on the 3D printer 🤫
@mikeclark44164 жыл бұрын
Wondering how many warning lights would be coming up on the dash , it must be like Blackpool illuminations . Whilst I love the new Defender ,I could never own one
@dennij4 жыл бұрын
From what you have found, it seems LR need to have a rethink of the information they are issuing for the removal of parts/panels. Too many missed screws/clips/etc, and to think that the instructions would have been proof read and approved prior to distribution. Showing us the "official" way and the "Tyler cheat" is going to make these tasks much easier for others to follow. Thank goodness I'm not a drinker otherwise I'd be to drunk to watch the video through to the end 🤪😂
@j33nhy3 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the manuals
@alanedwards64914 жыл бұрын
Definitely need a better access to the front recovery point.....
@L6634 жыл бұрын
I have ordered the Land Rover metal part - lets see what that is like... also could try cutting the standard one on the laser ?
@alantd444 жыл бұрын
We used to run the LR Experience Discoveries and RRs without the plastic recovery eye cover. However they were quick to remove and didn't leave such a big and obvious hole at the bottom of the car. In the Defender, with the cover removed it looks like something's fallen off. My point before was that people don't think they're going to get stuck until they are - at which point removing 4 fine thread bolts that far under the car will be mildly irritating! Better to have a neat-looking solution permanently in place. LR sell a 5mm aluminium replacement with a hole in it (essentially a bash plate) but it's £840! (+ VAT?). Approach angle isn't going to be the problem for all but the most extreme cases so I doubt anyone needs the extra strength. We just need a modified plastic version with a hole in it. I might have to take the saw to mine.
@L6634 жыл бұрын
@@alantd44 We have a plan - a laser cut plate to go onto the plastic cover to cover the cut edges you make in the plastic
@alantd444 жыл бұрын
@@L663 Put me down for one 👍
@alanedwards64914 жыл бұрын
@@alantd44 £ 840 says it all, someone will just do something for £100.....
@MrClingclong4 жыл бұрын
I know what people are thinking, it's just a load of plastic. I own a 2016 Toyota Hilux and it is exactly the same, it's all plastic as well. It's a heap of puny plastic clips that just break even if you look at them. Modern legislation for pedestrian impact protection and crash safety cell etc kind of dictates what happens at the front. When M-B re-design the G-Wagon they will have to adhere to the same legislation.
@stephenhepworth33934 жыл бұрын
Can the front metal protection plate be fitted without having to dismantle the whole front end by just removing the bottom black bit of plastic? Doubt that JLR a selling this separately yet as it part of the pack options.
@L6634 жыл бұрын
I have ordered one - lets see..
@stephenhepworth33934 жыл бұрын
@@L663 Great, could save £s not having to buy a whole option pack!
@chrise.52694 жыл бұрын
@ powerfulukltd Are you going to offer a winch kit ? Maybe I install it in combination of putting on proper recovery locations on the front ? My ordered off-road, P300 S is arriving at the end of September and I am pained imagining a dealer doing this work ... or to do it properly do I have to break my own brand-new vehicle?
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Wow congrats on the new motor...we are looking at the winch options and the front recovery points... i did take off the little mini subframe... not sure what to do with it yet...
@RichardCurtisImaging4 жыл бұрын
I don't suppose you have found where a 3rd party winch could be added ?
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Not yet.... still trying to get Land Rover head office to give me a genuine one .....i dont think its going to happen !
@RichardCurtisImaging4 жыл бұрын
@@L663 I'm guess you saw this ? Superior capability can be achieved through the addition of a powerful, remote control, electric winch. Designed to fit to the front of your Land Rover Defender, this winch comes with wireless remote control with a remote controlled clutch, allows safe operation away from the vehicle. Manufactured by Warn, the Zeon Platinum 10-S has a pre-set maximum pull force of 4,536kg/10,000lbs via the overload device. Supplied with 80' of 3/8” Spydura synthetic rope, making it more practical, user-friendly and easier to handle. For 90 and 110. Harness included. Requires winch mounting kit which includes winch cradle, crush cans, pedestrian-friendly winch cover, camera bezel and PDC covers for fitment and should be ordered separately. Not compatible with front expedition protection system and 'A' frame protection bar. Price: £3,162.00 Part Number: VPLEP0426
Hi John... a few reasons.... 1) to remove the silver parts from the bumper and paint them black 2) to look at fitting the lower metal tow cover 3) to look at fitting a winch - now or in the future 4) to look at how the new Defender is put together.
@JohnBaldwin634 жыл бұрын
@@L663 Ok so saving money up front and adding on after. I like it! That was the root of my question. Thank you.
@dpd64014 жыл бұрын
In Australia these things start at $113,000 AUD for a 2.0 Td. I’ve just bought a brand new 76 series Landcruiser with a 4.5lt V8 TD for $71,000. And guess what, the bumper is bolted on! I’m sorry, you’re not selling me on the defender.
@frd-kj5qu3 жыл бұрын
You are very lucky to be able to purchase 76 series in Australia. Over here mainly in all EMEA countries Toyota doesn't sell it and it's not possible to import due to registration.
@dpd64013 жыл бұрын
@@frd-kj5qu I think it’s an emission issue throughout Europe. South Africa can buy it and in the Middle East they get the same vehicle fitted with 1HZ diesel non TD
@frd-kj5qu3 жыл бұрын
@@dpd6401 You maybe right but I'm more thinking of tiny market. It's a massive car from an EMEA standard. There is plenty of sport engines with higher emission values in EMEA.
@GregsMowing4 жыл бұрын
The amount of mud behind the wheel arch covers is disgusting. Poor design Land Rover 😡
@tonypacke69544 жыл бұрын
Yes I was surprised as well. At least it is all plastic and you won't end up like the rear cross-member corrosion on the old model. It will be interesting to see how the electrics hold up as those connectors will get a lot of water and mud over them. It could end up being a common fault.
@mikefoley3604 жыл бұрын
Only one part of the cheap plastic snapped, "That's fine, it's acceptable" Your standards/expectations regarding the new defender have certainly fallen. Is that every panel that gets removed has broken clips/lost fasteners?
@HQBProductions4 жыл бұрын
Another frightening video Simon...how many shredded wheat do you eat every day...a 3-4 biscuit man I should think! That radiator and all those electrics covered in mud and you have only driven it off road in a mild way...what happens on a farm?? I just hope you can get it all back together without rattles and those clips failing and breaking. Hmmm...my order is on hold I think....Maybe never!!! 😱😱😱😱😨😨😀😀😀
@phillipchandler88624 жыл бұрын
Those plug connectors under water when wading and will remain wet when full of mud. All very poor design for an off road capable vehicle. What a disappointment. It's looking like a heavy duty school run truck not some thing you could trust in the back of beyond. Great instructional video again.
@deansshootingandfishingham82754 жыл бұрын
Does it have any metal parts 😂
@JohnBaldwin634 жыл бұрын
If you get in an an accident and all that plastic breaks, at least they won't be able to source used parts for you...:)
@TheCllve4 жыл бұрын
Why?
@PaletoB4 жыл бұрын
Yea I'm definitely a "bumper off" kind of guy. ON A CAR!
@alanottley4 жыл бұрын
Not too bad...
@GutoFontana4 жыл бұрын
WTF? The bumper is the radiator?!?!
@hansels13b13rnn144 жыл бұрын
I thought u used it 2 years then throw away
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Mate i am so flash and rich i throw my cars away after 6 months....reminds me of Harry Enfield loadsa money kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nb6lhdmlzc3SZIk.html
@frd-kj5qu3 жыл бұрын
This is the most awful technical design I have seen. Land Rover has lost all of the essence of the well-known Defender.
@L6633 жыл бұрын
They do have a lot of legislation to comply with - pedestrian safety etc
@frd-kj5qu3 жыл бұрын
@@L663 yes, i understand but it doesn’t mean to design such awful technical solution with so many layers. Have you counted the number of parts while plugging your winch ?