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SC14 bet you can't follow me in a straight and bet you you will go way far than me breaking. Me in my Range Rover Sport 07

4xoverland one qstn Andrew.. would you ponder solo crossing the kalhari in a RR sport?

I look forward to Andrews reply too. In the UK, I worked on most LR's from 1974 to 2003. Although reliability has improved, I would still not part with my own cash over a Toyota. You are right as a package the Discovery is great. But a great package isn't much use when the vehicle is in a garage. I know people who have 200,000 on a D3 with no problems. I also know people with a D4 who have not managed to do more than 1000 in 6 months - due to downtime.

Thank you for your comment. It is obvious that you have no experience of corrugated tracks that are part of any adventure away from towns and cities. Most corrugations are created by vehicles driving well above 50kph. Therefore, to match the frequency of the corrugations and to avoid being shaken to pieces, one needs to match one's speed to the corrugations. Most commonly, this speed is a little above 60kph all the way to 80kph. The Discovery, if it could go a bit faster, would be much safer at the higher speed, in that the wheels will stay firmly on the ground. At the unmatched lower speed, it jumps about, shakes itself and is extremely uncomfortable - and something will eventually break. This is a universal (not just me) complaint of Discovery 3 and 4 drivers in Africa and Australia where such corrugations are common.

So "it is obvious that you have no experience of corrugated tracks that are part of any adventure away from towns and cities" a smart ass response. I've driven a LR4 from Morocco to Cape Town.

haydne In that case, I do not understand why you appear not to understand the need to match the speed to the corrugations, which is sometimes difficult with the Discovery limited to 50 kph on a track, which you would have encountered on your trip. Your comment about speed etc now makes even less sense.

4xOverland I won't argue with you since I do enjoy your videos, my original comment was, no vehcile will do everything you want, and it's a pity the LR4 doesn't but I bow to your expert knowledge :)

+Florian P Thanks!

I agree it is a good car,but,reliability has not always been great. For me I had the amplifier replaced under warranty and the unlock mechanism on a door fixed too. ?The media does like to paint a poor picture of these vehicles as regards reliability. :)

The map supplier supplies several vehicle manufacturers in South Africa. And most work okay. This one's problem was the user interface. I asked around with some Disco owners I know, and every one, without exception used a dash mounted Garmin or TomTom, because they agreed, it was useless. I asked the marketing manager at the time, what he thought of it. He smiled a knowing smile, and said, "We don't talk about it much, and its under revision". He then mouthed the word, 'Its shit'. I could not possibly keep quiet about it, as it is sold as an expensive optional in an extremely expensive motorcar.

It is not fair to say it is an unfair video, since this is a South African video, with a review of the SA Discovery. And yes, our navigation we got with the car is crap.

+Willem Moseley New one is shitty. They've made it look more like jaguar interior & drives very light (its not supposed to drive light )

Saffron Maverick have you not seen what the new one can do offroad. They're very luxurious as a Range should be. The vehicle is far more modern, capable of putting a real shuffle on. Its a far superior vehicle. I've driven both.

Willem Moseley Trust me on this you Sir. As an owner of RR since its sport inception in 2005/06, i can state this with lot of confidence .Driving both & owning them for the past 10 years, see it evolve has some difference . I totally agree with Peter the Navigation sucks (including the new one ). I hate when RR goes the Jaguar way with its interiors.Not sure why to make it lighter by 800-1000lbs when the difference in MPG you get is only 2. Its lost its oomph IMO.

+Saffron Maverick i've only driven the two supercharged petrols. seems we've had very different experiences

He is not a professional presenter but he is a passionate ameture. maybe the discovery should be named a lifestyle vehicle as apposed to a 4x4..Perhaps someone would lend him the new discovery 2017 for review. Now that we know the defender might continually be built in solvinia as a kit I am surprise he has not applied to be south Africans defender kit assembly facility too ??

Lol, shame, LR's must be really annoying to you seeing that you take the time to comment here. Unlike Toyota drivers, LR owners generally have the cars serviced, and I promise you that if you follow the manufacturer's service guide, which includes servicing/replacing the suspension parts when scheduled, you won't be left in the bush easily. BTW, there are FAR more Defenders still on road in all parts of the world than old Toyotas. Next time, come to the court with some papers...

Its an old video before we upgraded our channel to HD. Sorry.

Bla bla. You otta compare Defenders to old Jeeps, not luxury SUV's. Bring the Grand Cherokee, it won't last.

Hate towards Land Rover????????????. Did you watch the video at all? One or two criticisms of a car doesn't mean hate. It means honesty. Your brand loyalty is affecting your judgement sir.

4xoverland. Hello Andrew. I have no brand loyalty as I don't work for any brand. But Your's is one of the opinions I respect most regarding 4x4 and overland and sometimes it's anoying that feeling you transmit in this matter. Not in this video, but in general. It seems any land or range rover MUST be perfect always and any mistake takes a good part of your time going around how wrong it is. I mean: should I buy a Prado or a Pajero in Europe due to the navigation sistem not working good in SA? Or I would better go in the old days for a diesel GR Patrol(before knowing its problems with the inner head cooling) instead of a crappy discovery 2 with the 'expensive to fix' 3 amigoes? Just examples. I'm not going into the speed safety(acording to Land Rover) limit, as there's always aftermarket builders to fix factory issues in every 4x4, except for the diesel vm engines the old grand cherokees used years ago. My point isn't going against you as I respect you. My point is, it seems every time you drive any land rover, I know you're gonna go 10% of the video saying the tonality of the green they used to paint the car is a huge mistake(enough to buy another car) because it doesn't mimetize perfectly with the tonality of the tree in wich the leopard waits to hunt(exagerated humoristic methaphore). It's a feeling I get from your videos when there's a land rover involved, even though you say a lot of giod things as well. Apart from this, thank you for your videos as they're really fantastic in general. Cheers. David

It's necesary to add that I'm talking about issues like navigation sistem, or the size of the luxury rims or the speed safety limit, or the spare tyre hard to take out if the car is full in the middle of Africa(would you keep your car stock instead of adding front/rear bumpers with cans/tyre holders?). All the are minor issues(easy to solve)due to the fact that, sadly, the new discos and ranges are designed to be sold to people who are mostly not offroaders. If the problem was a weak point in the CV's as the old discos for example, perfect!! Go for it as it is an important issue maybe not to buy that car. But sometimes it seems minor issues in lr's seem more important than bigger things in other cars. The problem is that I don't know if that feeling I get from the video(since this video and others I wouldn't buy this car or any lr under any circunstances) is real or not. I consider you a fair and honest person. But I have this extrange feeling when you talk about land rovers in general. And, please, don't think I'm one of those who say the Prado is the proof that toyota is a disaster(lr fannatics) or those who are ashamed of the Prado saying it's not even a toyota as their other land cruisers(toyota fannatics) In my opinion the Prado is a fantastic car(being 'the worse' of the toyotas as sine say). I just like to think there's still some people whose opinion is respectable 100% because they're completely fair, even when I don't agree with them. And that's difficult nowadays in the net. Cheers. David.

apologies. Was uploaded a long time ago.

Great vid otherwise 👍

If you haven't owned one, you don't know what you're talking about. There are many excellent cars and SUVs but the king of them all off road is Range Rover. Nothing comes close. Take this from someone who has used them extensively in extreme mountainous conditions, in very challenging weather and on a regular basis. NOTHING comes close.

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+T\/Gamer "frauds" not "frouds". You've been spending too much time gaming my friend

+Rex Ringschott for a moment I thought "froud" was a new word I was going to learn

+Rex Ringschott he's repeating the exact same line as was said on top gear lol