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It still amazes me that anyone takes any notice of stories people put on KZfaq. Whilst I accept there's no knowing if that person who claims they've never had a problem with any of their Landrovers or Range Rovers, and I'm one of them, is telling the truth, I think it is far more likely that the people who claim they've had problems with Land Rover are making it up, because people who can't afford them, or just don't like the people that drive them, love to trash them. My own personal experience is that the theft issue is nowhere near as bad as it's made out to be, and certainly my insurance has not gone up significantly this year, and not at all last year, so I would advise not listening to everything you hear from unsubstantiated sources (and, of course, that includes me). One thing, however, that I don't understand is why people blame Land Rover for their suppliers' inability to supply parts. How is that Land Rover's fault? If Landrover have contracted with a supplier to provide a proprietary part, and included it in their design, how can they then source it elsewhere? And, again, it's not just affecting Landrover - it's just that you hear more about it because people scour the internet for stories about Landrovers - no one's interested if someone can't get in their cheap BMW.

You are locked into the LR bug. Don’t go elsewhere or you’ll just be looking at them constantly as you drive around in your Q8 feeling annoyed 😂

I had the same dilemma after 13 years of range rovers. I leased an xc90 for 3 years which was great, then went for an approved used Maserati Levante 4x4 and it’s been superb. 2 years and 20k miles and it’s been faultless plus it’s got a Ferrari made engine. Sounds great and good value.

Love everyone I’ve ever had since 2006. Like the advert “does what it says on the tin”… mine can be a mobile skip during g the day with rubble and buildings materials in back whereas a clean and you can rock up to a posh restaurant

Chances of having the same misfortune are possible but probably small.BMW, Audi are decent brands but when you have the LR bug, you just gotta go with the flow. Just chopped a 12 year old L322 with 137,000 miles for a 2019 P400e RRsport 55,000miles.Prices were too tempting (£9k cheaper than September)and insurance @£1100 was reasonable(ish). Usual caveats: Warranty,£2k emergency slush fund and you'll be fine.

Once you have had one , you will always want one - Maybe go for the 3.0 next time

When working, Range Rovers are brilliant ! I have owned three but due to astronomical break down bills of several thousands a time, I thought, enough is enough and purchased a Defender T5, I can honestly say that the Defender is the most reliable car that I have ever owned.

As someone said below Unreliable/Unrepairable. As you had trouble with yours they couldn’t fully repair my Discovery Sport. Also because they are so focused on going electric there is a shortage of parts to repair vehicles. Uninsurable. What’s the use of producing a product which costs more to insure per year than the vehicle costs. Perfect Storm.

I have always loved RR’s and have owned 3. I currently have a 4 yr old Sport 3.0, a stunning car. But it’s the service issues that will drive me away. Trying to get a dealer to respond speedily to an issue is nothing short of a nightmare. My local dealer quoted me a 5 week wait for a loan car and a 4 week wait to deal with a warranty issue. I took it to a more distant dealer and they eventually had it for over 8 weeks to diagnose an intermittent TCU problem. At least they gave me a loan vehicle. The dealer network is beset with staff shortages in their service department, both management and technician levels are affected. This results in a ridiculous degree of slow response. They told me that because my fault was intermittent it only showed on their diagnostic tool when it was actually faulting! So the vehicles memory of a previous fault and ability to report back on it is non existant. Yep, utter stupidity in my book too. I have now got the vehicle back and I love it, but, I am not putting up with this every time something goes wrong. Tomorrow I am test driving an Audi and I will get rid of a car I love.

Had a few Rangies over the years. Currently considering going from a 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE into a new 90 Defender D300 with a 3 year warranty 😅😊

Personally I’d ignore what people say… I had a Range Rover L322 years ago and yes I did have issues with it but I’d say the issues where down to previous owners lack of maintenance which unfortunately I caught the worst end of it 🙈. It was a very expensive ordeal BUT little did I know this car had not been maintained correctly, once I had it sent Land Rover they went over it and gave me the list and yes it was eye watering. When I weighed up the options with it I decided to get the work done and after that it was as reliable as any other car for many years….. You cant look at these types of cars and expect to pay the same running costs as a Ford fiesta. When I sold that some time later I’ve had different cars and went back into a RR My opinion as long as you have it serviced by a Land Rover specialist or main dealer regularly you’ll be ok. Just need to keep in mind it’s a big car with many components compared to other vehicles 👍

Get a Hooligan RRS SVR and get a ghost on it with a sequence of 10 horn blasts to disengage. Your neighbours will love you!

I can't afford to buy one or run one. But, when I get in a Range Rover I really understand why people buy them. It just feels so nice inside.

Makes me smile at your dilemma which as you’re aware I’m faced with the same issue. Right now I’m fuming mad with JLR. I’ve owned 13 different LR,s since about 2000 and something. Range Rovers have been by far the most reliable and best of the bunch. So after, maybe 5 months or more, of waiting for my D5 to be returned, my current mindset is I’d suggest to walk away and find another manufacturer, but, I know after 6 months I’ll be yearning for a LR again, as has happened in the past. I guess that’s where our hearts lie. L R do something phenomenal for your dissatisfied loyal supporters..😊

Imagine this brand having a great reliable 3.0 v6 engine and gearbox that run to 150k miles . And had locks on the doors that only let you the owner drive it . Just imagine . Now that would be a really great car .

I mean. I’m not a fan of Range Rover’s. But I’ve had 2 Land Rovers. Freelander 2 and a Discovery Sport. Both have been on the button and haven’t had a single issue with either of them.

See the thing is, where I live nearly every other car is a Range Rover Sport/ Evoke so they don’t really stand out. But if you see a Disco 1 or 3 they stand out way more and have more curb appeal. But that’s just where I live 😅🤣

I’m in the same boat as you…. got extended warranty on my SVR and the front CV axles have diminished. The car has been there for a week and there’s no ETA on when the part will arrive. It’s giving me a stress headache to think about the fact i might have to wait months for a singular part to come in. just doesn’t make any sense how this is acceptable. but of course the dealerships don’t care as they can just keep giving out loaners for tax write offs!

A friend got sideswiped in his 18 month old Range Rover. He's been in a loan car for 3 months, waiting parts, and today got notice that the parts are on the way. I'm very keen on buying a Range Rover, given the drop in prices. Definitely a Euro-6. The RR seems to be as cheap as the RRS and Velar and D5, like for like, so much better value. I did look at the FFRR, RRS and Velar in the showroom recently, and whilst the front seats were all very comfortable, there was a lot of difference in the middle row space and comfort. I've got lots of grown-up children, so I think a FFRR would be the best option. We've had a D3 (for 250,000 miles), a Disco Sport (for 150,000 miles), so know that they suit us for family use, but now think that the FFRR is unbeatable value. I'm leaning towards a 4.4, 2016+, and probably a 2018/19 kind of (facelift) spec. I also want a late Defender 110, but know it would never fit the family requirement for long trips. They too seem to have really come down to sensible values, and would be great for me to tackle in a similar manner to your recent 90TD5

I have had 7 RR’s over the years. All Sports except for an Evoke and a Defender and I have a new RRS and full fat RR coming in next few weeks. My experience has been one alternator failure just outside warranty and that is it, no other issues. The theft issues as I understand, relates mostly to pre 2018/19 cars not the new ones so I’m not worried about theft. That said, RR have called both our current cars back for security updates, both done in a day. I don’t have any issues insuring the cars, maybe it’s where I live or my track record with insurer, who knows. Frankly with the price of Range Rovers currently I’d say buying a second hand one is a no brainer, you’ll have negligible depreciation over next couple of years. Oh and it’s not just Range Rovers that have suffered a drop in prices, all luxury cars have taken a beating.

Hi. I’ve had about 16 landrover products over many years, one of my disco 4 had an engine blown, done under warranty, my SV Autobiography had bundles of problems and eventually landrover bought it back off of me, but guess what I’ve got the new P530 Autobiography Range Rover it has niggly problems, but as you have rightly said, once you’ve had a RANGE ROVER, there’s nothing better hope you do stay within the fold

I almost ordered a Defender 2yrs ago in March. Absolutely loved the utilitarian look and go anywhere factor. Dealership said, the more options you go for, the longer the wait. This ultimately put me off, so decided upon a Mercedes GLE. Only had to wait 4 months. I Absolutely love the car, despite having a number of warranty fixes such as light cluster water penetration in all of the rear light clusters to name a few. Even though the ride is phenomenal, and the sound system is mind-blowing. I STILL....for reasons I simply can't understand, I get distracted whenever I see a Range Rover equivalent parked up or driving alongside me, just why???

Ive got a Freelander 2 (Manual ) , and a 2.2 Evogue (auto), best car Landrover built , Peugeot Engine , Volvo gearbox , and for weekends a 2005 , 40,000 mile Bentley Flying Spur , 6.0 litre W12 , four wheel drive (very asperational ) , they dont add up to 50k , very happy thank you

I am a big JLR fan boy but after a really bad experience with a Disco Sport and warranty issues in that to get to parts covered by warranty they had to break a door card that was not covered by warranty. After such part was broken we were informed it would be 4 months to source that part and at a cost of over £1k. After a long battle with customer services who gave us a Jaguar replacement vehicle and flew in a door card from Thailand the car was back on the road after 6 weeks and all covered by Land Rover. I remember our local Land Rover Assistance technician who we got to know quite well telling me that Jaguars were far more reliable. We are now on our second Jaguar and they have been fairly faultless. If you don't get another Land Rover you will always regret it as they are just on a different level in how they make you feel when you climb into them. Good luck.

I have had 6 Land Rovers over the past 20 years or so and only had one major problrm, with a Freeland 1 with a failed torque converter. I have found them to be excellent tow vehicles for my caravans.That said I tend to sell them at around 35000 miles.

I'm looking at getting a 130 diesel never really had much trouble with my dicovery 4 and i like the defender

After 6 months of waiting I would ask Landrover for either my money back (not fit for purpose) or a new one and then sell it and get an older modified/updated Landrover better than the one you raffled off 👍😁

LR..well I love them.had countless discovery td5's back in the day then had a defender 300tdi.. wich I did a full refurb on..loved it.. but unfortunately got stolen..so bought a silver discovery 4..Great truck but sold that for a vouge se 2007..(we won't bother going there as the code reader lit up like a Christmas tree) so that went and got a sport on a 08 great truck..sold that and got another defende 110 td5 did a light resto on that and went for a tactical vehicle look on it..was awesome..but sold that haha now got a 07 defender 90 2.4 (for sale if your intrested) also had a evouge along the way as well (great looking jst..well not there are they)...which brings me to the whole point of the post ..we've had a discovery 4 tdv6 hse luxury now for 6 years as our family wagon its metalic sand with cream leather tvs the lot and it's been fantastic..yes it costs to service it every year and in our ownership we've done the chains and other consumables tyres pads the usual but for a truck that's now nearly 14 years old (O10) it still looks and feels premium..would we get rid of it to be honest my wife wouldn't let me..dogs in the back kids in the middle and plenty of room up front for us (and don't forget kids are watching TV..winner) and this thing can go where defenders can..so if I where you in your predicament with the 5. Forget looking at the new shiny tata models that have all the problems and as you sayand that question in the back of your mind (will this engine go bang) and go back to a 4..they still have it.. they have it all..its the last true discovery

I think if I were in that position, I'd be looking at a new shape defender. Or a land cruiser...

Love my Range Rover, best car I've ever had

It's the Defender that that all the celeb's are driving now not he Range Rover.

Seems like we have the same addiction. Just bought a RR Autobiography with 38k miles for £45k. 3 year warranty and great PCP residual to take the stress away. 🤞

These cars are so complex, that even the LR techs can't sort problems out. There are plenty of other Lr channels that have highlighted this. One guy spent 16k on repairs over 3 years. You have to be rich enough to buy a new one, run it for 3 years, then change it and not worry about the hit. The only other option is to be a repair minded with a fully stocked workshop as do Christian and Vera in LR time. I have an old defender, and I would not entertain a modern LR.

I’ve had 18 Range Rovers, Sports and a couple of Discovery’s all the way back to when Range Rovers were first introduced. The first ones were a nightmare, I was in the garage every month, but I stuck with them. The later ones were OK but the biggest issue were electronics. Two years ago I purchased a Jaguar F Pace, a great car with the 3 litre engine but so boring. I now have a Defender which is a great car with road presence and so far no issues.

I completely understand how you’re thinking , like you said there are amazing when they are working but you always need a a spare £6 k for when some parts break . If you have spare money get one or make sure there’s a warranty with it ! Reliably problems are with all modern cars now’s there’s simply to many parts to get through EU regulations to go wrong 😑

Can not get front spring anywhere car of road for 5 weeks.

R.e. Your discovery 5. As soon as you get it back. Sell it! Walk away from the brand until such time they learn how to make cars that don't break down and if they do, they have the parts to fix it. If they an do that, and your easy with the possibility of it being nicked and you don't mind extortionate insurance premiums. Then you can always go back to them at a later date.

I just got hit by the RR bug. This idea of trading my reliable BMW for an older RR is slowly consuming me :(

Am in the same boat funnily enough with a Discovery 5 that is awaiting parts for 6 months. I will be getting rid of mine the 2litre engines are poor. For me it's about longevity I want a car that will last 5 - 8 years can see the appeal of a D300 engine in a Discovery, Defender or Range Rover. I might go for an older 2017 VW Touareg with air suspension, low range and centre and rear locking diffs. I looked at Q7 but driving position isn't as good and neither is off-road ability. Looked at Grenadier but steering and on road are poor. Very difficult but Range Rovers will be very expensive to insure......good luck hope you get your vehicle back soon

Ex Pat Ex Motor Trade UK now here in New Zealand. I buy my Range Rovers 3 years old and run for many years. Had a Diesel 322 for 7 years BMW diesel strong but a bit under powered, changed for a 2013 L405 Diesel 3 litre 7 years ago now 10 years old. Car is superb, love it noo problems short of rear tailgate auto not always working. They are becoming too expensive now, at 77 years old I will carryon with mine which is Aurobiography Gold/ black looks less than 5 years old still

I see people driving Range Rovers and all I can think is that they know nothing about cars or assume being seen to own a Range Rover implies they are financially very successful and obviously don't rely on them as the main source of transport. They might be ok in the UK for short journeys but people who live on properties that are 100 kilometres from the nearest town would never contemplate owning a Range Rover or any Land Rover product, ever. Fact.

Get a Land Rover Defender. I have a 2020 P300 Defender and have done 30k miles with no issues. I also have a 2010 Disco4 (petrol v8) with 100k miles. As long as you have two Land Rovers, you don’t need to worry about one being in the shop ;-)

If you can afford one, can get a good warranty from JLR and can guarantee a courtesy car - get another. Fact is it sounds like you’ll never be happy with anything else. I’d love one, but I can’t really afford one and warranty or not the issues would just drive me nuts.

Just use your series 1, that will never let you down

100% it's a love-hate relationship with LR for me. My last discovery was off the road for over 12 months before the dealer was forced to take it back. I love the big boxy shape of LR's and there was never much else on the market to match. However.... If you are happy to forego some off-road capabilities, then the new Hyundai Santa Fe has caught my eye. I would like to hear what you think of it.

I think you may be disappointed when they fit the new awaited part and still find it has the same problem.

I’m in the same boat. Had a sport a few years ago and was the most enjoyable car I’ve ever had. Currently looking at a 2020 or 21 RR Autobiography. Looks amazing. 2 year warranty. Security upgrade will be done. So very tempted. Just concerned about the theft issue. But will put a Disklock on it with its immobiliser and Tracker. Although my Met Police officer son in law says the RR tracker is pants?

I fully agree, its a sort of car that says I am better than you but I don't want to rub it on your face car. The X 5 is, so is Cayenne etc

11 months in a 2023 300d defender 110. 9100 miles and no issues yet 😅

With your sought of budget id get a late model L322 with the 4.4 engine and leave the balance of your budget in a savings account so you can maintain it and fix it properly when it goes wrong. I had two l322 3.6 tdv8s and a classic in the past and keep thinking i need to scatch the l322 4.4tdv8 itch. Like you I oftern seach though the adds even though I do have a Disco 1 v8 and Defender and have had many Land Rovers though my driving years.

I currently only have a discovery sport but have been wanting a defender or range rover ever since i was about 9 and my uncle took me for a bit of off roading in his landrover. I don't want one because of the rich and famous. I want it for me. Hopefully I'll manage it soon

Waiting 6 months for parts - Ludacris.

Your a doctor and you more than anyone should know, we don't know what's around the corner, you've got the money to buy one and you've got the money to repair it so buy one and enjoy it. Were only here once....Newish RRS would be my choice

I would love a RR but probably chicken out and buy a Lexus RX good value at £50k for a 2023 model.

I was wondering why anyone would want an unreliable vehicle that makes you look like a drug dealer and empties your bank account from all angles !

Rubbish! Had mine 3 years now and it’s not put a foot wrong! Just been serviced an passed it’s MOT with no advisories! £330.00 all in! 🤷🏻❤️

What part is it you're waiting to have fitted?

Doc, don't you think that if you buy another Discovery, or even a Range Rover, while you're out and about driving it, in the back of your mind you'll be thinking🤔...when is it going to Breakdown on me.Don't be taken in by the Royal family having a fleet of Range Rovers, Defenders and Discovery's at their disposal, remember when Prince Philip wrote off his Freelander, JLR had a Brand New replacement delivered the very next day on a low loader for him, that's because the Royal family are Ambassadors for the JLR Brand. We are just Plebs to JLR, and will never experience that sort of Service ever from JLR, unfortunately. Buy something reliable Doc, buy a Toyota or a Honda, you know it makes sense. Forget the status symbol factor when you own a Range Rover or Discovery, that means nothing when you're broken-down at the side of the road waiting for the AA or RAC man to arrive, or you're standing in the pouring rain on the hard shoulder of a Motorway.

So unrepairable, unreliable and uninsurable and you still want one

Ostentatious & overpriced when you rent it because you think it makes you look good … but if your a land owner/ working family using a trailer then your practical and not vain. Other than that I think the quality is superficial trim doesn’t wear , cheap Chinese tin wiring looms of endless issues with the depreciation i could buy two purposeful cars ! That’s why the Toyota Landcruiser wins hands down in every way .

I agree with you

A new Range Rover D300 sport might be the way forward for you. Probably the best value and three years warranty.

Get a land rover defender

If you have got the money to repair one without batting an eye lid get one

Have they given you a courtsey car ? Most normal people cat do without their car for 6 months especially when they've spent 100k on it !! In the real world their would be a a huge claim for a hire Landrover for you whilst tours is off the road . If like to know the full story Land rover seem to operate in a parallel universe IMO. Get a Mazda CX 70.

Dont believe people do. They are expensive and not worth the money. Only idiots buy them. I see a Range Rover and I think oh dear another mug.

Landcruiser

I think if you can justify having a Range Rover on lease, you can't go wrong. Otherwise...

They’re great if you have unlimited money for repairs, and loan cars while it’s in the garage, and if you don’t actually need to arrive at any of your destinations. Haha. Good luck.

Kia Sportage with 7 seat option. Don’t know why you would look at anything else.

I wouldn't buy a new one. I'd buy second hand, they're cheap at the moment.

Mate just buy a good Range Rover they are just the best end of the.

Yes follow everyone like sheep rather than know Range Rovers are appearance over quality and reliability, the Germans are better 🤷🏻‍♂️

Buy an XC90T8, unbelievable car

The new land rover sport

Put your family in a defender mine is superb trust me very safe seen a lot of grief in my 30years in fireservice

Follow your heart and get another one.

Because the people who get them are knobs