So no matter what the lantact domed cam pin is going to wear the cam track in receiver..the POF roller as well will wear receiver cam track a bit too

I'm actually looking into purchasing one here soon, when I look it up online all I get is a bunch of people screeching that it's not worth the price and a bcm is just as good, but other than price complaining none of them seem to have any actual complaints, and to be honest I don't think they're overly expensive, do you have any opinions on that?

@@broderman5 I have the same Lantac bcg as in the video. It is very nice but I think functionally there is nothing outstanding about it. I shoot left handed so the gas being vented forward is a nice quality of life thing but honestly I am not that bothered shooting with regular bcgs. If you are committed to getting a Lantac then I would suggest getting the nitride version over the NiB. The NiB will begin to permanently discolor over time from fouling. It doesn't affect function but it is a cosmetic thing you should be aware of with NiB. But yeah, the BCM will also serve you just fine.

@@Deltaworks23 you sir are a gentleman and a scholar!!! That was probably the most respectful advice/comment I've ever received on KZfaq, thank you for your response!

That's half the fun. Love knowing my bolts pass the gas ring test and my upper recievers arent clocked, things i never checked til I found sotar

@jhall19k45 what gas block are you using on yours

Do you know the name of the shop? I live in Ohio.

@@gordo5238 But yet most of them still go bang when you pull the trigger. Not everyone has money for expensive components that our machined to exacting standards.

Did you replace it or Lantac? That doesn't make me feel good when I'm about to get a black one too lol.

@@aermotors did you ever get one of these? Been looking at one as an upgrade for my 12.5 in 300 Blk. My supperssor is about to come in and I've heard some really good things about this BCG for SBR or suppressed use. I looked at some of the adjustable bcg's but I'm just not sure about them. I do NOT have an adjustable gas block

@@mrpibb7781 I have 3 of the 5.56 and 2 of the .308. Have had problems with both .308 bolts locking up from carbon foul after only 50 rounds within the carrier. Cleaned them and they run smooth again, but I still need to shoot them again. 5.56 seem fine, don't have enough rounds through them yet to know, but I hope for the price I don't have issues.

​@@aermotors Thanks for the update. a little disappointing considering the price. Not exactly an entry level bcg. With ammo prices the way they are I've been running steel cased 300 BO. Not the cleanest stuff in the world. LMT and JP are just TOO much for me. May end up trying the Bootleg ABCG a try

@@aermotors any update on your bcgs? Cheers

Me three

Bro .... help us!

Same question for me to

He doesn't answer this questions anymore. He only tests a small sample size and every company has some degree of Monday products that pass QC. So some ppl who bought bcgs he said we're gtg, got bad samples and decided it's his fault and not the companys fault. So he stopped giving company recommendations. But if you watch some of his vids and google a little bit you will find the good bcgs. Hint it's the bcgs from the companys that sell quality stuff and have good QC.

I've heard him say several times that he has a soft spot for full chrome bolt. Also I've heard him talk about LMT proprietary springs for the extractor as well as lug balance. LMT shaves a lug opposite of the extractor. Seems like He's a LMT fan!

Yep, and he does mention that in other videos.

I completely agree

Tail bore is likely slightly oversized for plating due to it being coated. Consideration Lantac needs to make when designing these because they do ask a hefty price.

2nd

Don't think SOTAR is going to endorse a brand, might recommend testing existing BCG if you watch a few more videos the Nickel Boron finish can cause problems if not done properly. So in short it might be better to spend $ for a spec'd Nitrate finish then more money for coatings.

Solgw or sionics. Both have microbest bolts which are regarded as one of the best. Solgw actually warranties your bcg for life and will replace it even if you shoot it out

I think forward control designs never reached a yellow gauge

You probably watched all the vids by now, but he mentioned once in a video that he never saw a broken JP or LMT enhanced bolt lug. That may be a clue to his opinion....

Yet the Lantac is 3x the cost 🤔

CMC and Lantac were kinda working together on some products so its probably the same thing

@@ICECOLDOUTDOORS No- definitely not.

Thank you. I did find some others also sharing the design, like santan tactical. Assuming azimuth makes those too

for steel case, most shoot Wolf or Barnaul without many issues..

@@cb7677 Thanks Brother 👍

yeah by the time you shoot five thousand rounds of steelcase the money that you saved verses shooting brass you could buy a barrel and have money left over.

Sionics, microbest chrome, colt, bcm fcd and solgw

My POF bcg feels and sounds smoother than my other milspec bcg's. Im waiting on the conversion kits to come in to swap them over. Others would do it but POF has a patient on it.

Elk neck in North East?

That was my assumption.

Good point.

His AO Precision BCG video mentioned that he was using that BCG for a semi-budget build. Sounds like he may use several brands.

Do they make a nitride version?

@@muffemod yep, they do

I think this is a good question. Some may say, "duh, you obviously want the most gas efficiency possible"... but what if your upper if fitted with, say, an overgassed carbine-length barrel? Is it a bad thing for a little gas to escape through tiny gaps here and there due to those looser tolerances?

@@thegreatshitstain BINGO. Folks with properly ported middy or intermediate gas systems and/or adjustable gas blocks might be concerned in the freezing cold, in a filthy gun, with PMC Bronze. Maybe. Every normal person will be fine maybe even better off.

That's what they're specifically designed for. The "lower" tolerance for gas efficiency is there for all the crap being blown back while firing suppressed. If it were super tight it may cause an issue with so much back pressure. It's gotta have some room to breathe.

@@EarthAltar I think what you're saying totally makes sense. My question is, was this really an intentional design choice by Lantac, or just the chance result of using a cheaper/lower quality bolt inside their proprietary carrier?

@@thegreatshitstain I have two. One for .308, and one for .223. They are by no means "cheap". What I was referring to with the "enhanced" version (they also make a standard version) is that they are specifically designed to be used with a suppressor. They are ported differently than other BCG's to keep as much gas out of your face as possible. The lower tolerance on the bolt itself is probably by design for this system. Even without a suppressor they run like a bat out of hell. Believe me. I have zero complaints with either of mine.

@@EarthAltar I understand what you were referring to; hence, me writing that I agreed with your line of thinking. I have one as well (5.56/Nitride) that sees both suppressed and unsuppressed use. It's been fine... Of course for the price, it should be. But something that deserves being pointed out: the E-BCG really consists of an "enhanced" bolt carrier and cam pin design, but not an "enhanced" bolt. The carrier itself, with it's geometry and larger ports, does a great job of venting gas and keeping that gas moving towards the muzzle. The domed cam pin may or may not be anything special. I believe that the pin is optimized for use in Lantac's own upper receiver, which has slightly different geometry in the cam pin recess/raceway. But the bolt that comes in the group is not high-pressure tested (HPT) before magnetic particle inspection (MPI). I'm not saying the lack of HPT automatically means it's a crummy bolt; it may (and probably will) last thousands and thousands of rounds before failure. That being said, most "high end" AR manufacturers use bolts which have passed both HPT and MPI; and those bolts (at least from the few examples I've seen on SOTAR) seem to also have tighter tolerances. Not arguing for or against Lantac's design choices, just trying to play devil's advocate.

@@thegreatshitstain I hear ya, and often wondered myself about the testing. If SOTAR has taught us anything though it's that any part can fail, especially the bolt. All I can say is check headspace and look for improper wear. We're throwing these parts together from different manufacturers, and it's a miracle they function at all. Lol.

I wonder the same. I’ve seen some on brownells but there’s multiple brands.

No.

Can u make a test also on the F1 durabolt and cryptic coatings bcg... trying to choose between those