Nah the SPEAR is just an anti-titan weapon, you can't buff it because it's already a portable one-shot. The real problem is the mob spawns. Even if you can one-shot titans, what is the point of bringing a spear that runs out of ammo if the game can spawn 2 or 3 titans at the same time on a side objective ? There's simply too much stuff to kill in higher difficulties and on the lower ones there isn't enough to justify bringing a Spear that you don't really need. It will be better once we get bigger rhings to kill, things that are rare to fight even on higher difficulty but require serious amounts of fire power.

​@@dearcastiel4667 the problem is it doesn't even consistently one shot titans

@@cavemanbonk8320 Yeah, this. As it is, you really have to line up the shot exactly from the front, so that it hits them in the face. If you're even slightly off, it will not work. Just doing two shots with any of the other options is way more consistent, and they have more universal uses and more ammo. The one truly unique benefit of the SPEAR is killing bot fabricators from any angle, but the lock-on for those is even more insanely finicky than usual, and just throwing an airstrike at them is faster.

​@@dearcastiel4667 the other day I fired two shots at an automaton tank without killing it. The spear is hot garbage.

​@@WELLbethere yeah that sucks because it looks cool and is fun to use...

lmao i gave up on calling it Quartar or Qartar cannon and just called it the Quaso cannon also

"EAT Quaso" is also what I say to the charger running at me.

thats also assuming you are playing with friends. i play with pretty much only randoms, (sometimes friends) and you have to make sure they are willing to take a backpack slot for you. with randoms its even worse. Quasar so far is fun on its own since i dont need to have the backpack slot or hope that someone is willing to help out.

If you have a second person that's one bile titan every 10 seconds assuming you can aim. That's really solid. I really only deal with that many bile titans around extract and you can even drop a second QC by that point

I think all 3 would be perfectly balanced if they improved the ammo economy of the rr, like made ammo packs and resupplies give more rockets

​@@erick5928 they do

Easy fix: your friend picks up a resupply pack, you carry their RR pack You load their rockets for them and they can resupply your rocket backpack

I wish the damage from the dropship explosion was more consistent. Sometimes it just traps enemies under its hitbox and they keep shooting you from it and you can’t shoot back 😂

@@agedgouda8809 I've learned you have to drop the ship with the bots still in it to do the insta-kill everything in the ship

Every time I see a drop ship I get real giddy with the cannon out lol.

​​@@failegion7828 Same lmao, like i'm itching to take them down at this point😂

Yeah, I just had a T7 Extermination against bots, and all 4 of us brought Quasars and Eagle Clusters. It was an absolute massacre, with every single ship being shot out of the sky, and Clusters going out to double(x12)-tap the crashzone, lol. ALMOST no bot even walked up to us. Almost!

Exactly

ironic thing is railgun is still top tier; it was always good for the flexibility(it can blow ammo on oneshotting bile spewers where as dedicated AT weapons take way too long to do it even if you had the ammo)

Not really. Not as mobile and not as spammable. Railgun is still good for a lot of things.

@@EcchiRevenge only because of the bug with ps5 that allows you to 2 shot biles

Eh, railgun still better on impossible/helldive for run and gun. For lower difficulties, probably leans towards quasar since you aren't getting swarmed nearly as much.

and maybe increase the reloaded projectiles from a supply box from 2 to 3.

The problem is nobody is gonna go to u

@@SeudXe always have a battle buddy

@@SeudXe I think a lot of players, myself included, would not mind giving a teammate a hand for a few shots.

@@achillesa5894 Agreed. Occasionally do some reloads for a buddy so he can delete all our biggest problems? Absolutely. Be glued to his butt the entire mission and wear the ammo backpack and give up my shield/rover? Eh, thats a big ask.

That happens for all rocket launchers(RR,EAT and Quasar) quasar’s damage seems a bit off. The heavy tank and the stationary turret sometimes take 3 shots if you shot them from long range but sometimes it only takes two. It couldn’t consistently blow up charger with a single headshot or bile titan with two, but if you stand really close sometimes you could. Maybe there are some seriously high damage drop off?

This is nothing new to the Quasar, you can one-shot multiple tanks back to back with a Recoilless Rifle

using the quasar even hitting weakspots it did not one shot tanks for me. it feels like a slightly weaker recoilles/eat but with a charge up and infinite ammo

Weird considering the turret is usually the most armored part of the tank. I’m assuming it doesn’t one shot tanks if you aim for the chassis?

@@lejenddairy I haven't tried shooting one in the chasis, I mostly aim for the vents to take out the big boy tanks, but I'm guessing it can do the job like the other AT weapons, I have one shot hulks with one blast to the eye and the back vent, so it's pretty solid on that front, though cannon turrets can take between 2-4 shots depending on where you hit them, so, some enemies are a bit inconsistent with the damage.

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many thanks broski

Agreed, consistent concise information, always tested, no speculation or misinformation. First and last HD2 channel you need lol

Ohdough for facts takibo for gameplay

Agreed, he's one of the few who's not inhailing that Arrowhead dong

​@@cykeok3525 Not overly positive about everything and offers constructive feedback. Compared to that one guy that's been crying that hell divers is a dead game since the Railgun nerf

On high enough difficulty missions, I generally would prefer a backpack buddy with the RR for rapid reloading to snipe dropships, but it definitely holds its own as essentially a lower CD EAT.

@@emgee2807it makes the EAT irrelevant

@@TrendyTryhard no it doesn't. You can call that shit in every 60 seconds and kill 3 things with it near instantly if you stick a charger. Can also stack them at POIs while you're doing objectives for anyone to use back to back. All 3 of them (quasar, RR, EAT) have different use cases

@@roar104 EAT has 3?

Nah, you don’t need to nerf the range. You can snipe out the tower mortar with EAT and recoilless already.

I think they will nerf the charging and cooling on the Quasar, to balance a bit with RR

@@Ibra-fx1dy charging is fine. It requires just enough skill to master, but isn't brainless. Cooling though, I might agree. Still I would prefer useless weapons to be made useful, not useful weapons to become useless.

RR is not redundant. Its quicker fire and the fact you can quick reload with a buddy means you can still take out two bile titans by the time the quasar has even finished taking its second shot. Sure the gun is great but its balanced where it doesnt replace the EAT or RR just another option.

​@@Ibra-fx1dy As long as the damage remains I'm okay with this

@@isnobodyreally102 find me AT LEAST ONE PERSON IN THE WORLD who uses RR in team. Everybody plays "solo" - everytime i try to make some teamplay and take RR-backpack - everyone says that they will use shield or drone instead. Even if i will be the one who takes backpack - everyone disagrees, because they need to depend on me.

Thanks for watching brother

You indeed can kill bug holes

If you can destroy factories, then you also can destroy nests. Just need the correct angle first

@@blastmole299 I figured I just hadn't had a chance to try it yet

edging your shoulder mounted weapon lol

@@bamby3144 XDDDD omg thats great

Here's the problem with the argument that RR is better because team reload" in all my 70 hours, you wanna know how many people have helped me reload? Zero. Not even one. And, istead of having a reload buddy for your quasar, you could just have a dude with a 2nd quasar! Cutting the reload in half without even requiring teamwork!

The RR needs to allow teammates to reload from your backpack.

after reading the balance patch notes the Dev made explaining his decisions for buffing/nerfing everything I lost all hope for this game being balanced well. the reasoning he gave for things gave away that he was just not nearly experienced enough to be able to make good decisions in these areas.

@@petercottantail7850and you are lol?

Nah Railgun was this but without the cool-down and practically x2 the firerate if you mastered the reloading.

you can bring out the railgun in a pinch- you have to wait till the sun burns out before this thing fires

I don't know where you're getting the idea that Quasar takes twice as long to reload as RR but it aint true, they're roughly the same. Quasar is flatly better than RR in all things but team reload and charge-up, the first of which never happens anyways, and the second of which hardly ever matters.

At least it has one advantage, it doesn't take 10 minutes to recall

It would be nice if they would change it so you could wear the ammo backpack instead of a teammate, but your teammate could still come reload assist for quick successive shots.

Tfw a charger eats a recoiless shot and now I’ve got no breathing room to try and reload again. Least with the quasar you can keep moving till it cools off and you can try again.

the recoiless purpose is team oriented. wearing the backpack yourself SHOULD let others reload for you so it becomes better with randoms. wearing the backpack yourself is not its primary intended use and now we don't have to force ourselves to play it that way anymore since we have the laser. after playing with it today i can say the recoiless is much more consistent hitting things. timing a shot means the conditions need to be met when it fires and many times the conditions stopped being ideal just before firing either the target rotates, something obscures it's, enemy attacks screw my aiming up. not too mention the fact you are still and need to avoid dying while charging it. people saying this is broken are people who haven't tried it in higher difficult. it's true that it's REALLY nice to have a passive reload but being still for 3 seconds in hellish conditions can be a death sentence, you are almost always on the move with occasional crouching to fire quickly then run again. the charge behind cover before peeking out and firing is a skill that takes time to learn and not always ideal when trying to use it for precision cause of how the reticle likes to drag it's feet to where you are looking. I'm listing its negatives not because i think the weapon is useless but why it's not replacing anything besides being the shiney new toy and lasers are inherently cool. balance is a mess and weaker options need more attention than this being called op a day after it's released

@@petercottantail7850 The fact is that the EAT already made the recoiless kinda meh already. Neither weapon is supposed to be used in the heat of battle. They are openers, eliminate key targets before the fight starts. Same problem can be said about the recoiless as well. You don't really pull it out while kitting enemies either. It's use is supposed to be before the fight starts similar to how the quasar plays. Why bother picking the recoiless if the EAT and the quasar outperform it 99% of the time? Unless you get the stratagem delay time effect. The EAT comes down extremely fast and pretty much offers 2 very fast shots unlike the recoiless where if you didn't get the perfect headshot on the charger, it's now dead weight on the double considering you cannot reload it in the heat of battle and you also have to give up the backpack slot. The EAT was already better functioning and as you said, every difficulty on suicide mission or above, you cannot afford to have 2 helldivers being stationary for back to back shots anyway. Quasar offers the initial hit you would need from a rocket launcher and it's times better than the recoiless. Unless they buff it a bit to give it an edge above the EAT and the quasar, there isn't any reason to pick it over the other 2. I don't know, I always preferred the EAT over recoiless anyway so to have yet another option with so many benefits over recoiless, it just makes it seem completely not worth the cost for the benefit it offers. In my opinion, the recoiless and the spear both need a bit of work to give them an edge over other weapons. Something unique to them that would intrigue people to choose it for certain situations. Maybe more AOE splash or a way to down dropships more effectively. Same with the spear, it already can destroy fabricators when shot from the side and not the little hole.

Did you mean the cooling time?

Why should they nerf it?

please do not offer bad balancing advice, it gives other people who read it bad ideas

@@petercottantail7850 sure thing sir. And what would you nerf it it had to be done? Cause increased recharge is very reasonable. How about you stop acting like an elitist prick 👍

@@giannisupereroe2189 hopefully they don’t, but if people were really upset about railgun and nerfed that, this thing is basically the railgun on crack. Infinite ammo and more damage railgun just with a slower fire rate, which is fine because you need less shots. It also steps in eats and recoilless rockets toes. Like why would you ever take those when you can take this? It does the same damage but with infinite ammo and doesn’t even need a backpack like recoilless.

I have to imagine that somewhere at Arrowhead, they were thinking this when they named it. Gotta be some ATHF fans there.

In practice, the charge-up also holds the Quasar back a bit, especially since you can't hold it in a ready-to-fire state like a railgun. It's not very relevant against bugs, but against bots, you can be flinched at the worst possible time any moment you step out of cover. It gets exponentially worse the higher the difficulty. Still, price worth paying for literally infinite ammo, and in fairness, the flinch can mess you up with the RR/EAT too, if the timing is particularly unlucky.

"Unfortunately, due to too many people having fun with this new support weapon, we are nerfing it by increasing charge time by 5 seconds, reducing its overall damage. Hulks and Charger weakpoints now require 3 shots from the Quasar"

@@SentryMashand if anyone complains they'll just say stuff like "skill issue"

@@SentryMash I sure hope they don't. I'm legitimately worried they might.

​@KalijahAnderson Ikr! Was literally using the Quasar and having a lotta fun but my first thought was that people are gonna bitch and it's gonna get nerfed.

They will. Nobody's allowed to have this much fun at the higher difficulties with one single stratagem. Gotta make sure they're all bad but viable.

The game is most fun when everyone has exactly the same load out. And we all have a gun solves every problem. I hope every game session I have is identical to the last.

@@dannyf1168 well, you need ground control so auto cannon and arc thrower is still crazy Eat and quasar cannon is a must

@@Ace-InterventionAgree, something like 1-2 quasar and 1-2 arc/auto is probably going to be really effective.

​@@dannyf1168 "solves every problem" oh yeah the quasar with its small explosion range and slow cooldown is dEfiNitEly SoLvEs a horde of bugs coming at you

@@tor-keeby4401 cool-down is vastly superior to a slow stationary reload animation

Nah. 1-2 people with EATs is still better overall, if they just spam it and destroy the pod making them visible on the map. So no nerf needed.

eat isn't a primary support weapon

@@OhDough There are primary and support weapons there is no such thing as a primary support weapon. If you ignore the ability to carry an EAT around, you would need to give the quasar a 5-10s charge up time. Ignoring that this thing also far outclasses RR reload (ignoring the team reload that only happens with friends, which in turn is no better than running 2 quasars)