Laser Games - Like a giant colour Vectrex that can blind you

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Playing some laser projector games with LaserOS www.wickedlasers.com/laseros
standupmaths did a much better video about laser games here
• Recreating Asteroids w...
My 2016 Laserdock review video in full: • LaserDock - 'World's f...
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Even just thinking about them is probably dangerous
All stunts in this video were performed by professional idiots
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When the fun stops, stop.
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FAQs
Q) Does the software do (insert function here)?
A) Download it - it’s free - try it yourself. This video was about the games. www.wickedlasers.com/laseros
Q) Have you adjusted the settings, have you tried a filter on your camera, perhaps there’s a problem with the software, the projector is rubbish etc..
A) This video is what it is. It was shot in February and initially binned due to the fact I was unhappy with the way it looked. After making quite a few edits, I’ve released it as an ‘Extra’ - there will be another video along in a few days.
This one has problems - The video quality is rubbish, and the projector is too slow - but that was it - it’s was over and done a couple of months ago.
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@Techmoan 6 жыл бұрын

Links & answers to any FAQs (if there are any) are in the *Video Description Text Box*

@Somethingorother00 6 жыл бұрын

Is the flickering (most visible in asteroids at the start when there's a lot of stuff exploding) a camera thing or is it that visible in person? It made me a bit ill to look at.

@Techmoan 6 жыл бұрын

It's a bit of everything - the projector, the camera and real life. In person it's not always fun to look at.

@hikuro14 6 жыл бұрын

What was the song at 0:28?

@NaviRetlav 6 жыл бұрын

Is this laser any good for displaying the oscilloscope style music videos ?

@ShawnTewes 6 жыл бұрын

Have you tried the built in ND-filter on the Sony RX-10? That should allow you to use a slower shutter speed, thus possibly reducing flicker/halo.

@VectorSM64 6 жыл бұрын

the animation actually looks better all curvy on the projector imo. it unintentionally gives it a neat art style

@ThetaReactor 6 жыл бұрын

It looks like long-exposure light art.

@eachandeverything9932 6 жыл бұрын

It looks cool. It kind of looks like neon.

@ArtemisKitty 6 жыл бұрын

Hey, I've had a lot of experience (and trouble) filming laser shows myself (my business) and found that the easiest solution is to just drop an ND1024 filter over the camera lens and adjust your F-stop/ISO a bit. Awesome video btw! (Now I've REALLY gotta get one of these...) (Honestly since it's short-range and indoors, you could probably get away with an ND256 here... definitely cheaper.)

@watadeeel 6 жыл бұрын

The squiggles are kinda cool, actually.

@PiddeBas 6 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@rich1051414 6 жыл бұрын

It's cute. It's obviously massively underengineered, but there is something quaint about that.

@jusb1066 6 жыл бұрын

yes it does make a change from square lines, a hand drawn quality

@DerMuri 6 жыл бұрын

my thought exactly

@DisplacedGamers 6 жыл бұрын

Despite not appearing as it was designed to be, I thought Attack of the Squigglons was rather charming.

@WaltonPete 6 жыл бұрын

Displaced Gamers There's Squigglons on the starboard bow!

@DisplacedGamers 6 жыл бұрын

... starboard bow! Starboard bow! There's Squigglons on the---. Oh no. It is stuck in my head now.

@Chocolatchips 6 жыл бұрын

It's not that their appearance is unintended. There's just always some degree of distortion depending on how many thousands of dollars the owner has poured into the projector. It's always there, to some degree.

@alexsabber 6 жыл бұрын

So Techmoan is Lazer Game Review now :)

@joseangelmonterroza9364 6 жыл бұрын

*L* *A* *S* *E* *R* *M* *O* *A* *N* here, internet bussiest láser game nerd.

@fwd0120 6 жыл бұрын

Grreeeetings

@kei_nishimaru 6 жыл бұрын

1:23 And there's a Techmoan in his natural habitat. A truly interesting and phenomenal mammal.

@U014B 6 жыл бұрын

Kei Nishimaru Phenomenammal (🎵doo doo d-doo-doo🎵)

@AlbertBurdge 6 жыл бұрын

I’ve spent the last couple of weeks watching most of your videos, still finding more. I just wanted to say I thoroughly enjoy your work. As someone who searches out retro tech from thrift stores as a hobby, I find techmoan endlessly fascinating. Keep up the great work, love the puppets too!

@kirche5 6 жыл бұрын

The compilation in the credits needs a standalone video. It's just so relaxing.

@TheDementation 6 жыл бұрын

I love the 80s look of the glasses and the icecubes, looks like artwork come to life.

@rich1051414 6 жыл бұрын

The bendy inaccuracies and ghosted images is actually really quaint and cute. However, it does make me wonder about making a proper one with tight tolerances, bet it would look fantastic.

@MagicPlants 6 жыл бұрын

Even with the curved line problem I still find the effect impressive and beautiful. Thanks for demoing everything. You're an awesome reviewer. Long time fan.

@Tubeglowfun 6 жыл бұрын

I like the clipped edges. It's like a visual version of what a tube amp does to a guitar signal when viewed through an oscilloscope.

@vivangreco1710 6 жыл бұрын

Makes me miss my old Vectrex even more. I've always had a soft spot for vector graphics games, and poured way too many quarters into Asteroids, Star Wars, and Tempest machines as a teenager in the eighties. While all my friends were buying Colecovisions and Atari consoles, I scrimped and saved for the Vectrex. I had the 3-d goggles and the light pen and most of the games that were available for the machine. I foolishly gave it away to an old flatmate trying to downsize for a move to the UK. I ended up back in the states eventually, and now have a 16 year old son who loves retro gaming. Looking at what the Vectrex and accessories go for on Ebay, I fear I'll never have another one. Hopefully this technology will mature to the point where I can play a ten foot version of Tempest on my ceiling! Love your videos, and your accent makes me homesick for my adopted second home in Blighty.

@larsmuldjord9907 6 жыл бұрын

It actually looks really cool how all of the lines get curved, as if it's animated neon sign lights. It gives it a very unique look.

@gavincurtis 6 жыл бұрын

Oh my God, I wan't to play asteroids on the huge hillside by our house now.

@USWaterRockets 6 жыл бұрын

I'll buy that for a dollar!

@devicemodder 6 жыл бұрын

or on the side of a wal-mart at 2AM

@gavincurtis 6 жыл бұрын

Frogz, A DLP won't light up the side of a damn or hillside though unfortunately.

@Lumibear. 4 жыл бұрын

So many blind rabbits...

@RawTopShot 6 жыл бұрын

Tempest was my all time favourite as a kid. I only ever found one machine. I remember the large weighted control dial vividly. Bliss 😍😍😍

@RetroPlus 6 жыл бұрын

RAW TOPSHOT Yeah, tempest was great. My favourite has got to be Polybius though due to the fast and addictive gameplay.

@CTimmerman 6 жыл бұрын

I'm impressed by the colors and charmed by the curves.

@sky173 6 жыл бұрын

Actually, it's quite amazing considering when I started working with lasers, HeNe tubes were $300+ for a .5 mw beam. Even galvanometers for professional shows are thousands of dollars so I really couldn't complain about this little gadget at all. Great video. Thanks for sharing.

@agvulpine 6 жыл бұрын

I love the fact that somebody went through and ported so many Vectrex titles just to give added bonus value to their laser product. That is really rare and cool. I've never considered dj laser shows as vector projectors before this video.

@jamesslick4790 6 жыл бұрын

I would be interested in this if a better "Tempest" clone was to be had. "Tempest" ,"Battle Zone" and "Missile Command" are STILL my favorite arcade games!

@CPTVCAMgmailcom 6 жыл бұрын

The inability to draw hard angles produces a “rendered neon tubes” look. Cool.

@victorhugotoledocofre1366 6 жыл бұрын

Automatically generated subs: "That's it for the Bourbon..." LOL

@IgnoreMyChan 6 жыл бұрын

I would have loved to see this with some smoke in the room 😃😃

@RetroPlus 6 жыл бұрын

IgnoreMyChan Oh wow, that would be crazy. I'm interested too.

@LouisTheSEGANerd 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome to see some vectrex ports for this: Starhawk, Star Ship and Amour Attack look pretty good (starts at 8:36).

@mrmeatman9948 4 жыл бұрын

Reminds of the computer displays in the X-Wings!

@penroc3 6 жыл бұрын

i like the smoother look!!!! you found a gem i think for simple club animations

@marklaser131081 6 жыл бұрын

Pangolin laser software use to have asteroids built in back in the early 2000s. this takes me back

@ojgsxr6 6 жыл бұрын

You had me at potential eye damage

@andersdenkend 6 жыл бұрын

Man, if this could emulate the Star Wars Arcade game. Or the Vectrex. That‘d be really, really amazing.

@RCAvhstape 6 жыл бұрын

BattleZone, Gravitar, Major Havoc, lots of great vector scan games back in the day!

@Wallyworld30 6 жыл бұрын

TRON!

@denimadept 6 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see a better version of Tempest. That's the best of the best.

@paspax 6 жыл бұрын

Tail Gunner.

@AalbertTorsius 6 жыл бұрын

I was hoping for Elite.

@qqq1701 6 жыл бұрын

Interesting that it's kind of the opposite of not having the power for 3d graphics. Instead of becoming angular and blocky things become squiggly and rounded.

@rich1051414 6 жыл бұрын

Lol. Well, it's not that it doesn't have the power, it doesn't have the accuracy. Things look rounded because the motors are not stepped enough, it just guesses(wrongly) the positioning.

@Adlore 6 жыл бұрын

Richard Smith I think they were stepped enough, but lacked the torque to actually reach all the locations in the right time, so instead it literally cut corners

@GigsVT 6 жыл бұрын

these are mems aren't they? I wouldn't think this would be anything like steppers.

@rich1051414 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah maybe, or lacked the speed. If it's high powered lasers, it very well may be torque, moving the heatsinks in all.

@KuraIthys 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think the main issue is a lack of accuracy at speed. If it were moving too slow parts of the image would not get drawn at all, but if it rushes I guess it approximates the fastest path through it. I suppose part of the problem could be that the X and Y deflection happens with separate mirrors, meaning that if one mirror isn't moving it would need to start moving in advance to complete a later part of the movement in time. I imagine the mirrors have a relatively high mass compared to the deflection speed, so it doesn't instantly start or stop. That in itself means the ends of any line drawn involves a degree of acceleration, and taken to an extreme that means sharp edges become curves. (since it's easier to smoothly transition to a new direction than to create a sharp corner, which would require coming to a complete stop, then starting again.) Yes, the fact that the mirrors cannot stop and start instantly would seem to be the most likely reason sharp points have a habit of vanishing when there isn't enough time. A hard corner would require deceleration, stop, accelerate, while a smooth curve is an even acceleration all the way through, and thus takes less time to complete. Weird quirk with unusual visual effects, but interesting to consider the reasons for it.

@manoflego123 6 жыл бұрын

I actually really dig the sort of stylized curves it draws, and I'd love to either have or to make a game that is supposed to look like that!

@Christopher-N 6 жыл бұрын

I'm not a big fan of vector graphics games, but I appreciate the continued popularity of machines like the Vectrex. That having been said, I think this laser rendition of vector graphics games looks fantastic. Admittedly, there's room for improvement, but this is something I'd definitely love to have once all the bugs are worked out, and if it's available for PCs.

@mcramp20 6 жыл бұрын

Still a very nice use for the projector glad to see it in use again!

@LeshmuttRecords 6 жыл бұрын

i used to love playing these games and actually i think was my first interaction with with gaming way before the first nintendo - great video - keep up the good work :)

@scottplumer3668 6 жыл бұрын

The King of Random did a DIY video where they used a vibrating laser pointer to produce laser effects to music. The projector doesn't seem all that different in concept. It just controls the vibrations better.

@kirabarsmith9353 6 жыл бұрын

Looks rad, would like to see this tech taken further. I love Vectrex and Tempest.

@voidofspaceandtime4684 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, with more lasers at once color vector games would certainly be more of a possibility than the vectrex while using the 3d viewer.

@Masterpj555 6 жыл бұрын

Tempest 2000 can be played for a long time already on pangolins QM2000 and easylase and its called lazymame!

@roastysprouts8705 2 жыл бұрын

There's something quite nice about the underpowered ice in the glass drawings

@vanhavirta 6 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't feel too bad about the cutting of corners - I really find the result quite charming to be honest. The output feels really nice and analog - physical, I guess - in comparison to the input. Great review, and a good effort put into capturing the bright laser projection!

@pauleckert4321 6 жыл бұрын

My favorite tech channel.

@eachandeverything9932 6 жыл бұрын

I love this channel & 8-bit guy's channel.

@dom1310df 6 жыл бұрын

I saw the Asteroids laser projector demo in person. It was stunning

@EricPenn1147 6 жыл бұрын

This is by far one of the coolest things I've ever bought.... This video doesn't do it justice... KZfaq 'LD1000 Laser'... Thank you Techmoan for closing the decision on buying this. I thought maybe a scam on eBay... Search for LaserOS, it's free and you can simulate what it can do... I played with that for weeks until I pulled the trigger...

@jamescarter3196 3 жыл бұрын

At the beginning I noticed "He's wearing a shirt which I've got in the closet." During laser setup: "He's wearing a different shirt which I've also got in the closet." I'm starting to feel some kinship with Techmoan beyond merely our age, appearance, interests and approximate speaking style.

@jaxnean2663 6 жыл бұрын

Always love it when there is a new Techmoan video👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@largeowl6024 6 жыл бұрын

what a great show every time this guy is great

@moonshine3333 6 жыл бұрын

Just love your “Obligatory Patronising Warnings” 😁

@SLMK-rk7ht 6 жыл бұрын

You have to keep in mind this only costs $800. That's extremely cheap for colored laser that does animations. I remember back in early 2000's there use to be a guy bringing in a $30k laser to rave which only did green color and had super basic animation. I know this was while back but still this laser is amazing!

@MrVolksbeetle 6 жыл бұрын

I remember when I was a kid playing those neon ‘bar top’ (I think?) where the display was on the wall. I want to say it had a light gun, I could be mixing that up with another style of the same type of game. This reminded me of that.

@korndogz69 6 жыл бұрын

Star Wars and Battlezone were the ultimate vector games.

@dansolo9978 6 жыл бұрын

Ah Your Correct Sir it was Battlezone not Tank Command..!

@58jharris 6 жыл бұрын

I wish there had been more vector games. They just have certain unique appeal to them.

@dansolo9978 6 жыл бұрын

And Play-ability..!

@alanluber5383 6 жыл бұрын

And also the companion to Battlezone at that time "Red Baron", I spent a lot of money on those two in my youth... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fsuUh5Z2t9GwkZc.html

@RalphBarbagallo 6 жыл бұрын

Wow. Even with the issues this still seems cool. It would be great to be able to play the whole Vectrex library on it.

@j.lindback 6 жыл бұрын

I think the footage of the laser on the projector screen looks far more interesting than "how it should have looked" (9:13), despite halos and squares turning into circles!

@sideshowbob1544 6 жыл бұрын

I remember playing Galaga in the arcade at the mall for 25 cents a game. Back when that was real money. I loved that game!

@SPAZZOID100 6 жыл бұрын

Sideshow Bob not a vector game.

@MattHayesVinyl 6 жыл бұрын

Interesting product. I'll have to check out the 2016 video but I'd love to see a laser spectrum analyzer.

@JesusisJesus 6 жыл бұрын

I think you'll find that this thing is capable of that, the rest is just software.

@MattHayesVinyl 6 жыл бұрын

Good point, Jesus. I'm sure you are right. Would be great to see that in action.

@JesusisJesus 6 жыл бұрын

Maybe you should download the software because I was just watching it again and I saw a few Speccy type displays flick up on the screen during the bit where he's setting it up. Smack bang on the 2:00 mark.

@Techmoan 6 жыл бұрын

During the section at the end of the video, where I’m talking to camera, look to the right of the screen, you’ll see that the lasers are reacting to the sound of my voice. This is one of the features of the software. In this video I was just playing some games. You can download the software for yourself if you want to look through all the other features.

@MattHayesVinyl 6 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, thank you. I hadn't even noticed it was reacting to your voice! Would be great to see this with music too. I'll have to take a look at the software.

@MrWombatty 6 жыл бұрын

Actually, that animated EQ/audio meter at the end was quite cool!

@Tarbard 6 жыл бұрын

Love the look of these, I think the curves look better than hard angles.

@spartanfoxie 6 жыл бұрын

i love the vectrex i got to play one at the maker faire my dad has never seen one but he was really impressed with the asteroids game and how smooth it is

@ClockworkBastard 6 жыл бұрын

Yep! I was worried during the last scene! The laser almost hit you in the glasses. But everything ended normally. Thanks for that video

@thehelllord4458 3 жыл бұрын

Now we need Tron on this masterpiece

@jdlives8992 6 жыл бұрын

That’s sick man. Wish I could see it in person.

@CPS2 4 жыл бұрын

Dies Dies Dies Dies "It's a little bit easy though..." Dies Dies

@BigStickyNugs 5 жыл бұрын

remember them tapes you used to buy advertised in magazines? '100 games! Amazing bargain etc' I bought one once and it was full of games basically written in basic. Ah the joys of being old...

@SolarMoth 6 жыл бұрын

i like how it stylizes it!

@somethingsmells5387 6 жыл бұрын

This holds so much potential.

@imtheotherdave 6 жыл бұрын

That's pretty cool. The kids on the pills and electronic music would stare at that for hours.

@Yukatoshi 6 жыл бұрын

imtheotherdave Is this comment from 1993?

@ftrueck 6 жыл бұрын

I actually like the shapes the laser projector creates. It is kind of retro and doesn't disturb too much for me. :-)

@DavidDatura 6 жыл бұрын

I absolutely loved those vector graphics games of the 80s like Battlezone, Tempest, Star Wars etc...they were so addictive to play and dazzling to look at! They hold up well visually today too, just like the neon vector like graphics of Tron. Maybe due to the fact that by about the mid-80s they stopped using it for games (with the exception of the home computer Starglider series) so a technology frozen in time that hasn’t dated as much as a result. Unlike raster-scan games that have continued to advance, making those 80s efforts like Centipede, Defender, Outrun etc...look primitive by todays standards, if still eminently playable!

@thiesenf 6 жыл бұрын

MAME + any vector based arcade game + that laser projector = AWESOMENESS???

@aminekostone1411 6 жыл бұрын

It might not be ideal - but it's still friggin' awesome!!

@mcwooley 6 жыл бұрын

I've been drawing pretty much nothing but line SVGs since 2013, in anticipation of this technology!

@CaptainDangeax 6 жыл бұрын

Reminds me the movie "Tron", specially the breakout clone

@tapemaster8252 6 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna try this, I just bought a Mac mini and connected it to my neck center, looks exciting.

@dansolo9978 6 жыл бұрын

Wow brings back great Memories of Star Wars & Tank Command....

@dansolo9978 6 жыл бұрын

Sorry Battlezone..!

@dr666demento 6 жыл бұрын

Actually it does share the flicker problem with CRT vector, and for the same reason, it's drawing a lot of lines one at a time. If you come across the Atari Star Wars arcade game, before playing it, watch it's ''attract mode''. It will have the ''scrolling into the distance'' text, but the more text there is the worse the flicker gets.

@Stoney3K 6 жыл бұрын

If you want a few tips of capturing laser (and CRT) projections on video: Set the shutter time to no shorter than 1/25 and adjust aperture and/or ISO to compensate for brightness. Also, you could try re-tuning your scanner amplifiers if you want the images to be sharper. Reducing the scan angle also helps a lot with image sharpness.

@buddyclem7328 6 жыл бұрын

8:08 I had that game on the Commodore 64! It was all character graphics, but definitely the same game. The Tanks game reminds me of Wii Play Tanks.

@ZeedijkMike 6 жыл бұрын

Looks very cool - even with rounded shapes. Thumbs up for being a big boy with cool toys (-:

@mantovannni 6 жыл бұрын

"Eek help Spike", "Oh no, Molly"

@ChristopherSobieniak 6 жыл бұрын

Looks like something I'd love to see at a barcade!

@FailedSquare 3 жыл бұрын

i own one of the newer laser cubes and i gotta say watching you speak while the 2w class 4 laser projector was pointed at your face was pretty nerve racking

@metaleggman18 6 жыл бұрын

Dang it, I wish you would add a "no puppets this time! 😣" warning to the end of the video as the credits. I always get excited I might see more puppets, but the patreon credits are just getting longer 😂😂😂

@scharkalvin 6 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of one of the original vector graphics games, namely Lunar Lander, which ran on a DEC graphics terminal back in the 60's.

@ArguingMeadows 6 жыл бұрын

Love your videos. I'm not sure if you tried this to reduce flicker, but Premiere has a Flicker Filter in the Field Option settings. I'm sure you're shooting progressive but it still should reduce the flicker for next time. Thanks again for making this video!

@VanWinger 6 жыл бұрын

The version your projector displays reminds me of the guitar on the money for nothing video.

@genekwagmyrsingh9433 5 жыл бұрын

2:49 Hey, that's the guy from Numberphile!

@skakdosmer 6 жыл бұрын

If you like old and simple, but really exciting games, I might suggest draughts or checkers.

@100percentdutchbeef9 6 жыл бұрын

Omg omg omg a tempest and missile command clone!! I so neeeeed this right now!! 🙀

@darbyjordan5187 Жыл бұрын

This is ABSOLUTELY AWESOME.

@ThomasTalbotMD 6 жыл бұрын

I still think it performs very well for electromechanical mirror beam steering.

@Mmmm_tea 6 жыл бұрын

the animations look nice with the curved effect

@NoJusticeNoPeace 6 жыл бұрын

The space shooter game with what you called the "Klingon ships" is a clone of an Odyssey2 game, the name of which I no longer remember.

@NoJusticeNoPeace 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think that's the one I was thinking of. I just did a search and it was called Cosmic Conflict on the Odyssey2. And yes, I remember enjoying the Lord of the Rings RPG (which was half boardgame if I remember correctly; you moved on the board and resolved fights in the game).

@RCAvhstape 6 жыл бұрын

Lots of games used that same patter. Activision's Star Master, Atari's Star Raiders, just for starters.

@quite1enough 6 жыл бұрын

looks amazing

@emmittmorgans8076 6 жыл бұрын

8:08 SCORCHED EARTH! I remember a time before "Worms" basically became the de facto version of this game.

@marcocinquini9989 6 жыл бұрын

Days ago, I was wondering about vector monitors, because of Vectrex itself, and also Arcades that used them, if they are still produced, since even oscilloscopes went LCD. These demos may trigger some nostalgia, but, as show, it doesn't last long due the laser speed. It would be nice with 4K screens, to have this kind of games with quite sharp lines.

@taofanarchy96-renzomaracas14 5 жыл бұрын

0:05 *Phil Taylor entrance flashbacks*

@reggiep75 6 жыл бұрын

Would some strong glass photographic filter across the output window of the projector not have helped tone down the strength of the laser? Or if you used ND filters on the camera? I remember looking at solar eclipses in the middle of the day with some photographic filters a few years ago.

@PrankZabba 6 жыл бұрын

8:09 - almost looks like Scorched Earth. we used to get sent to the principals office if we got caught playing that in computer class.

@AmaroqStarwind 2 жыл бұрын

Now how about taking multiple projectors and having them work together inside of a TV housing?

@QunMang 6 жыл бұрын

There was a very old MAME distro called LaserMAME that allowed you to play the vector arcade games using a laser projector.

@glenrea 6 жыл бұрын

I was wondering if a Neutral density or polarised filter would help with the haloing around the projected shapes.

@eekpie 6 жыл бұрын

I did this in 2011 ish with an opensource driverboard called lasershark, a single colour laser and a set of galvos. It cost around $100 and had far better tuning on square objects. Wish I'd seen the last video where I could've helped out sooner