last of the railroad loggers

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Death Valley Lumber Company

4 ай бұрын

last standard gauge logging operations in the NW united states

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@user-qr7ee2cp4y 4 ай бұрын

The more I watch the news, the more I like watching train videos

@KirkHermary 4 ай бұрын

Same here!

@randymcneely4983 4 ай бұрын

Me too.

@johnblood10 4 ай бұрын

Man, I hear ya on that.

@scotabot7826 4 ай бұрын

Nothing but propaganda and lies for the most part anyway. Definately with all the national outlets!! If they say the "sun is out today", we best look out the windows if we want truth!!

@KandWRailroader 4 ай бұрын

This

@JonBentz-xp7dl 4 ай бұрын

A lot has happened to this former Milwaukee Road trackage since this was shot. In 1980 MILW retreated from the west coast and while its mainline was abandoned and scrapped, trackage sound of Tacoma, WA was purchased by the Chehalis & Western RR. A portion from Fredrickson, WA south to Morton was purchased by the City of Tacoma. The C&W was a much larger Weyerhaeuser operation and featured 60 log trains operating between Western Junction (the enginhouse in this film) to the Tide Flats in Tacoma. Eventually this operation tapped out logs and the portion of the line which reached south to Chehalis, WA was also sold to the City of Tacoma. The operations feature in this film appear to be post sale clean up work. The line still exists and is currently operated by Rainier Rail out of Chehalis..

@therailfanningskeleton359 4 ай бұрын

That is amazing and wonderful to hear thank you!!❤

@6181green 4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for an update on this awesome video. I appreciate it very much. I love learning about railroad history👍👍👍

@davidcolesr.8628 4 ай бұрын

Thank You Kindly

@MontanaDirtRoads 3 ай бұрын

I wish I was around for the Milwaukee, I'm only a student of their history now as they died the year I was born...... I missed a golden era

@rickstephens1130 3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, a lot has changed since the times of this industry and the commercial market has taken a toll on the industry which is a Lost Era in time. And because of the commercial market and that of the logging industry have been lost to the times. That of over logging and the demand of the marketable timber is going to be gone forever. And now because of the demands for land and for development of the housing market and the commercial industry's. This trade of logging will be gone forever and I am glad to have been a part of the logging and tree cutting trade. We are a dieing breed. And they will have to go back in time and make structures with concrete and whatever else is available to build house's out of new materials, because of over cutting the timber. Soon they will be cutting down anything standing and the old growth forest will be gone to ravages of time. And lost just for the demand for building materials or for the export market. And if we don't stop the export market of trees? we will not have anything left for our country. I'm not against exporting, but we will not have anything left for our future and the future of our children and their children And so on. And yes we can grow more trees. But the demands will be so great. We will be marketing trees that are not able to reach full maturity because of the demand. I don't know why I went on to say this about the industry? But it is just a reminder of the past and how we came to be in this great country of America 🇺🇸. I really enjoy watching these videos. And we should preserve this history as much as possible and I hope that this makes sense for anyone who reads this text. Thanks again for sharing this with us

@ryanstewart1521 4 ай бұрын

Chad Darrah took us kids out camping on a train out of Ashford for his son Zebs birthday, one of the best memories I’ll ever have. Absolutely love this video as I am a modern day logger, alot respect for that shovel operator too, so smooth!

@malakiblunt 4 ай бұрын

WOW that crane opperator was a true artist grappling those logs

@denniswaggoner8056 2 ай бұрын

Just for the context on proper identification on correct terminology of what each machine is, that’s called a log loader or we loggers. Call it a shovel. By golly bum. Loghard

@OregonCrow 4 ай бұрын

Sitting here like a 7 year old boy in complete awe. Thanks for sharing this!

@vonyinzer 4 ай бұрын

this really makes me want to convert and upload a lot of the old VHS RR movies I have.. Great film, I wish I had it in my collection!

@itsacorporatething 4 ай бұрын

Do it! It would be a service to the community.

@6181green 4 ай бұрын

I would greatly appreciate watching them I'm gonna go ahead and sub to you just in case lol

@TronVila 4 ай бұрын

One heck of an operator

@6181green 4 ай бұрын

I 100% Agree 👍

@coletonevans4384 4 ай бұрын

Yerp, this video definately speaks my language! Alcos, railroad logging and rocking things old school. Thanks for the upload, absolutely a new instant favorite for me.

@Greatdome99 4 ай бұрын

Alco 684 is on display at the Fife WA historical museum. Simpson Timber RR was the last logger in the US; Canfor on Vancouver Island was the last operating on the continent.

@DeathValleyLumberCompany 4 ай бұрын

Yeah it looks runnable

@6777Productions 3 ай бұрын

That is a really cool operation. Im glad someone was able to document it before it got lost to history

@stacyyoung7347 Ай бұрын

I was loaded many a load from that shovel and Bill. Some of the best memories I have are of hauling under that shovel and ol Joe as the chaser. Wish those days were still around. Bill was a true master with that machine.

@lewiemcneely9143 4 ай бұрын

I could watch this for a solid WEEK! I learned to run a crane in the Army in the early 70's and always wondered how a shovel was setup. I started on a clam feeding an asphalt plant and then spent time off and on slinging a drag bucket but how a shovel was set up without a 3rd drum was beyond me unless it used the boom hoist for it. And the CHUG of an Alco makes my heart flutter. Puts me in mind of the old D-7's, 8's and 9's of years ago. I ran the 7's and 8's but no 9's. And I like EMD's a site along with their 2-cycle cousins but an Alco will make you grin! And those were REAL operators. S M O O T H ! And tying that shovel on that car was interesting too. I've had to sling the bucket over the end of a drop deck and pull to help them walk up on the trailer. Metal to metal and slick pads. So THANKS for all this! And my Uncle had an old Chevy like that one for a log truck. God Bless Yall!

@Cyfi71 4 ай бұрын

Used to meet these guys at Western Junction when I was working for the Milwaukee Road back in the 70's. And we handed off trains with them in Chehalis too.

@lewisgoodridge1308 3 ай бұрын

Hi I have seen the prototype C415 in action in the Pilbara Region of Western Australia. It was used and abused. Its usual job was to haul 100 car trains of empty iron ore cars from the port back to the 7 mile yard. maintenace facility. As Hammersley Iron used to push their locomotives hard, they failed regularly. There are two incidents which stick in my mind. The first was seeing the C415 at the head o a 20,000 ton ore train dragging the train to port. Flat out for 7 miles at walking pace. They were aided by a down grade out of the yard for about 2.5 miles. The other was the push job of 45 miles from Parabadoo to Wombat Junction which still exists today. This job took four plus hours, with two Alcos C630/C636/M6s6 on the head and three of the same mix at the rear pushing. Notch 8 was the story for the whole distance. Job could be done with four locos but five were used because of loco failures. If you saw a triple header coming into Dampier, it was a Parabadoo train because usually the lead loco was a failure and had to come in for repair. An extra loco would be added to the next train out and if a Tom Price empty, the extra loco would be dropped off at Wombat Junction where the Parabadoo crew would be waiting. From Wombat to Parabadoo was only about 40 minutes. the C415 is in the custody of Pilbara Railway Historical Society and is still roadworthy. There are a number of Alco's at Dampier mostly in mauinline working order.

@CriticoolHit 4 ай бұрын

Back when you could feed a family of 4, have vacations, cars, luxury goods, kids, college. All on a single hard working paycheck.

@6181green 4 ай бұрын

And buy a very nice house now it takes 2 people making very good income to afford to buy a decent house it sucks

@ffjsb 4 ай бұрын

Define "luxury goods"... Back in the day, not as many kids went to collage. I think you're misremembering the "good old days"... Not many working class families had all that.

@CriticoolHit 4 ай бұрын

@@ffjsb Now a days I define luxury goods as food, clothing, electricity, a roof over my head. Luxuries on the single working mans paycheck these days.

@ffjsb 4 ай бұрын

@@CriticoolHit But yet you have a computer and the internet... I remember when a color TV was a luxury...

@allenhollenbach4692 4 ай бұрын

Well. CPI has increased a lot while real wages have not increased by nearly the same amount...

@echohunter4199 4 ай бұрын

Boy, this brings back memories of my first job as a choke setter in Oregon where I grew up. I went to Squim, WA in 82 where we logged out a few old growth trees on Ken Novak’s property, had to double choke those monsters! Those trees were HUGE!

@chiefgecko 4 ай бұрын

Squim => Sequim , WA... either way the last time I heard that town name spoken was mid-70s. Other peninsula towns like Seiku, Clallum Bay, Neah Bay. Grew up in Chehalis, WA back in the day.

@ronaldbollinger950 4 ай бұрын

My grandfather was a telegrapher for a logging road in Missouri in 1906 when my father was born. It was a division of the MoPac line I think.

@asullivan4047 4 ай бұрын

Interesting/informative/entertaining.. Excellent photography job enabling viewers to better understand what the orator is describing. 1st time seeing felled trees loaded onto a flat bed rail car. Viewing this presentation from the comfort zone of my computer room. Along the "Space Coast " 🚀of Florida 🐊🐊. Wishing viewers/train loggers a safe/healthy/prosperous (2024)🌈🎉😉.

@deanhuffman48 4 ай бұрын

My dad was a logger we loved watching them load us up at 4:30 in the morning and haul to town mill 3 loads a day long days lots of coffee hard work

@EdmontonRails 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for uploading all of this stuff, your channel is a treasure trove!

@brucebird133 4 ай бұрын

Very kewl video... Thanks for the upload Looks much older than 1995!

@Gfysimpletons 4 ай бұрын

Superb……I love the center cab alcos thank you

@WaterDr. 4 ай бұрын

Video is made right. Reminds me of when I spent about $2000 in 1981. Cut and sold pulp wood. 1952 Chevy 2 ton with a working winch.

@ronmusco8757 4 ай бұрын

That was great. Loved every minute of it!

@MShep-mh5xo 4 ай бұрын

I truly hope that Alco has been preserved.

@6181green 4 ай бұрын

Someone commented it's in a museum and it looks like it's still in operable condition 👍

@donstone4349 4 ай бұрын

I’m a big fan of our loggers,y’all certainly get the most from the equipment ya have.Watched the hydraulic guys seems they spend a lot of time diagnosing high tech problems.We use the old iron ,it’s strong and pretty easy to work on.Good Job

@blues145j 4 ай бұрын

Outstanding! I have always been an Alco fan.

@frankkie3849 4 ай бұрын

Great job on this piece of history..😊

@warrenjones744 4 ай бұрын

Very cool film. The crane operator describing his part of the operation was my favorite part. Didn't need yellow safety vests to get a days work done without killing anyone either. Like it should be.

@bruceflaws3213 4 ай бұрын

It’s a heel boom loader.

@johns3106 4 ай бұрын

Except that lots of guys got hurt and killed doing these jobs over the years. If you’re rugged enough to do the job, wearing a little bit of hi-vis shouldn’t hurt your job performance. I’ve never heard any of my co-workers say, “Nah…I don’t wanna be safe.”

@6181green 4 ай бұрын

He did an excellent job running the loader I'm sure he had decades of experience running it

@frydemwingz 4 ай бұрын

@@johns3106I dont want to be safe.

@engineerskalinera 3 ай бұрын

@@frydemwingzyou speak for yourself, which is good, because the rest of us want to be

@nicklambing9268 4 ай бұрын

That is some really unique rigging and cleverness on the loader operator's part. Have seen all kinds of yarding and loading, but not this set up. Many ways to skin a cat, one might say!

@richierich2048 4 ай бұрын

2:59 Alco built 26 C415s between 1966 and 1968.

@harold1098 4 ай бұрын

That was really interesting! Thanks for posting.

@hunterbidenscrackdealer3753 4 ай бұрын

What a fantastic video

@tigercat73 4 ай бұрын

Awesome video!!! A much simpler way of life and a group of great hard working guys. I come from a logging family in Se Louisiana and everything is completely mechanized. We shut our job down because of fuel prices and the loggers these says barley stop long enough to eat lunch.

@gregsg2351 3 ай бұрын

Eveywhere I've ever lived there has been trains 2 blocks away from my childhood home. Would walk the rails to school in one direction then into the woods in the other. i have lived at 6 differnt locations thru out my life and there was a train within 1 mile or across the road. I love trains the older the better. In this crazy world you can't even walk the tracks without the police showing up acting like your the uniboomer sad to say. Alot has been lost to prgress an time worset is the trust and respect for things. Great video thank you for all the good memories it brought to mind.

@gregmaggielipscomb9246 3 ай бұрын

How beautiful, T/Y for sharing this treasure of western Washington..

@gtc1961 4 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure those tracks are what is now the Chehalis and Centralia tourist railroad.

@raymondj8768 4 ай бұрын

What a Team !!!!! Ill bet if you put a new crew on all that gear it would look like a Circus lol

@PRRFanDoesTrainz 4 ай бұрын

That opening shot goes so hard oh my god

@Ronadams5272 4 ай бұрын

64 1/2 yr old still hauling forestry products every day

@seamusburke9101 2 ай бұрын

Great to see proper men at work not being supervised by children who think they know it all.

@rival9417 4 ай бұрын

When men were men and women knew when to stfu😂..seriously though sitting here watching this on my phone it hits a nerve,life was so much simpler then,might be easier now but id rather be doing what they are doing right now than watching it from the comfort of my home,,,easier life has made us soft,,nostalgia buzz for me for the rest of the day..thanks for uploading

@everettdemeritt7362 4 ай бұрын

Love the video. I felt like I was there watching from the ground.

@jayrobert5917 4 ай бұрын

My grandfather used to paint Alco,s in Schenectady NY in the 60s and 70s.

@anisenkrill6179 4 ай бұрын

The city that lit and hauled the World.

@6181green 4 ай бұрын

That shot with the mountains in the background was breathtaking. Thanks so much for this video. I could watch it for weeks and not get bored with it👍👍👍

@earllutz2663 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the virtual ride-along. Very interesting listening to the shovel operator. Also enjoyed the comments of the narrator. Very enjoyable video.

@joshjones3408 4 ай бұрын

It's kinda sad at 10:52 the very thing that put the logging rail road out of business just happened to drive under it....

@nateholt4588 3 ай бұрын

Agreed, but a lot of families are supported by those truckers wages today.

@joshjones3408 3 ай бұрын

@@nateholt4588 I agree to it was just odd how they got that shot with the train going over the top ...👍👍

@Keckegenkai 2 ай бұрын

trucking is the most expensive form of transport (if you ignore flying). I dont know why the US is so in love with it when they have great river wavs and had an extensive rail network (for the sheer size of their country) which are all cheaper.

@3rdTrickGang 2 ай бұрын

Great Video! I've always been fascinated by the Alco C415 I think mostly just because of how rare they were and still are. I've heard stories of guys that ran them and said that they were horrible engines to run 8 to 12 hours a day but they're like the unicorn of the railroad world. One of the 25 or so units previously Rock Island #423 it's parked a couple miles down the street from my house it was purchased by a local branch railroad but it's been sitting there for probably 20 years or more I doubt it will ever run but it's still cool to see one up and close.

@doncoleman6070 3 ай бұрын

The Chehalis Western ran by my house when I was a kid. Good memories.

@slammer7625 3 ай бұрын

I sure enjoyed this video. Brings back alot of memories when i drove a logging truck in Northern Arizona. At one time train logging was done here in the late 1800s early 1900s. Still evidence of the track bed in certain area of the forest. The old steam locomotive named 2 spot sits on display in downtown Flagstaff Az.

@davidkimmel4216 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this with us

@melvinthompson9635 4 ай бұрын

Great show very unique way how they haul lumber in to and on the train 👍

@deancole4559 3 ай бұрын

I live in SE Oklahoma,retired conductor. The TO&E/DQE were originally logging railroads own buy derik's coal and lumber later it changed parent name to weyerhauser. In the early 90's they still ran a full crew and caboose....been retired for 7 yr's and was an amazing experience...

@UCSPanther20 4 ай бұрын

This reminds me of the old Englewood Railway on Vancouver Island, that was operated by Canfor and Western Forest Products before its closure and scrapping in 2017.

@RHTeebs 4 ай бұрын

I feel like I'm going to see a video in the next couple days from Edison Motors talking about how these were the best of the best of logging, back in the day.

@user-dc5yu2vh3d 4 ай бұрын

Shoutout to the engineers, operators, and millwriters who made this happen, this is dope

@skipstein744 4 ай бұрын

Geat program! Thanks.

@doncoleman6070 3 ай бұрын

I worked for Bill when him and Leroy Justice had Latimer Justice Logging in PeEll Wa. Drove truck.

@Guokas0422 2 ай бұрын

Thar Grapple Operator was the bomb, very talented.

@randytaylor1258 3 ай бұрын

Good narration, first-class editing. Great video.

@borsanablues8243 3 ай бұрын

How wonderful ! Very nice video ! 👏👏👏👍👍👍

@roundthirteen 4 ай бұрын

It's funny this looks like it was shot in the 80's or early 90's and they keep calling the locomotive antique but it was built in the late 1960's and at that time there were still 40's built RS2's in use on short lines and an F7 was used on the ELS until a couple years ago. Class 1's were using older GP35's and non -2 38's&40's well into the late 90's. GT and CN ran GP9's well past this time.

@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb 4 ай бұрын

Credits show 1995.

@richierich2048 4 ай бұрын

Summer of 1994.

@Willysmb44 4 ай бұрын

Never seen this before, thanks!

@dondotson4604 2 ай бұрын

I worked for the BNRR. They had 2 of these Alcos. #4010 & 4011.

@Dave_9547 3 ай бұрын

My dad had a cable shovel like this, but it was a Lima and truck mounted. What was almost the same was the big grapple and oversized heel boom common to those machines. As the operator said, they were versatile as can be seen tossing the grapple out and attaching a choker if it won't quite reach a log. I got to run it a bit, but never was allowed to load a truck. The lack of outriggers must have made that a lot of fun.

@never2fast4me2 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for feeding my fascination for trains! Great video for us foamers.

@dodge33445 4 ай бұрын

This is so awesome!

@hotrains1711 2 күн бұрын

I wish I could have been around to see the early days of logging

@doncoleman6070 3 ай бұрын

I remember when the CW ran Fairbanks -Morse locomotives. I remember when the Center Cab made it first run.

@TheSilmarillian 2 ай бұрын

Nice indeed watched from down under .

@hartmutlorentzen9659 4 ай бұрын

The good old time….

@roadmasterz 4 ай бұрын

Great to hear the old ALCO running!

@jimmyisawkward 3 ай бұрын

Watching these videos makes me so depressed, knowing the current state of the rail road industry.

@scotth4760 4 ай бұрын

Excellent video

@michelemcnurlin7745 3 ай бұрын

That's my uncle Joe. Such a hard working man. I love him so very much. Ps. He's cooler than...😊

@RichardThompson-gc1cf 4 ай бұрын

I don't see how that crew worked with out federal gov an federal government telling them what an how to do an work

@johnsmith-xr6qy 4 ай бұрын

Hey, this man is a skilled operator.

@motionsick 4 ай бұрын

They have a yellow Weyerhaeuser logging locomotive at the Northwest Railway Museum.

@pauldavis1943 3 күн бұрын

Such skill!

@adrianniemiec8669 3 ай бұрын

Great video indeed .

@johnsadventures6783 2 ай бұрын

We have a C415 abandoned behind our factory in Quincy Illinois.

@poowg2657 4 ай бұрын

C-415s are just plain cool!

@denniskimmell4983 4 ай бұрын

You just can't beat train video's!!😅

@TheFarmacySeedsNetwork 4 ай бұрын

Incredible engineering!

@rickstephens1130 3 ай бұрын

And I thank God the creator of all things, and for Jesus dieing for all to be saved, and for the times that I was given to be a part of this industry and the trade in the tree cutting profession. Because we truly are a dieing breed.

@grandcrappy 4 ай бұрын

Mt. St. Helen sure caused a massive timber harvest.

@user-wu1ds2sz3w 4 ай бұрын

NIIIICE Video !!!

@therealslimshaddy93 3 ай бұрын

The yarder is really cool

@monmixer 4 ай бұрын

That's a helluva little diesel their buddy.

@denjhill 4 ай бұрын

Once the shovel had loaded cars on either side of it how did it load the rest farther back?

@connershepherd998 4 ай бұрын

The last logging train in SE Oklahoma ran in 1973

@Cthippo1 4 ай бұрын

That locomotive (anbd I believe that caboose as well) are not on display at the Dacca Barn Museum in Fife WA.

@MikeCurrysHorsepowerChannel 4 ай бұрын

I'm sure this would make a great tourist railroad today.

@michaelspringob9937 2 ай бұрын

They sure don't make men like that anymore. Now, they make them like girls, dreaming up FRA and OSHA violations, to where a man can hardly complete a job in a timely fashion. But, I have got to say, that the shovel operator had extreme talent. Thank you very much, for sharing this gem of a video. It was truly a pleasure to watch.

@joejoebus8814 Ай бұрын

The Rock Island Lines owed some C415s.

@billbonu1639 3 ай бұрын

That old train runs pretty good.

@robertbalazslorincz8218 2 ай бұрын

Mfw I realise, that this is standard gauge: Man. This would be a cool job to have. Shame it's gone. I must say, loading those logs is really fascinating.