I always found Abby's story ironic, and I think that was intentional. She kills Joel for killing the Fireflies and her dad, but she doesn't realize WHY Joel did what he did. But then, she meets Lev, and Lev is what Ellie was to Joel. At a certain point, Abby becomes Joel. She's okay with killing anyone who would ever dare harm Lev. That's what I love about the story, is how beautiful and lethal love can be.

Ngl those screams from Ellie are chilling. Usually in horror games the mc screams usually sound like something you'd hear on a rollercoaster or like they're raging at something. There's no... shrill breaking in them. Ellie's va in this game absolutely put her everything into those death shrieks. I keep feeling my hair stand on end when i hear her. Good shit

Fun fact: If you manage to outrun the Bloater for long enough while Joel damages him, The game will spawn in a runner to grab you (I'm 90% sure you cant avoid this runner, you still have to spam click the button on screen or else the runner will actually kill you) and the bloater will grab you and then the cutscene will trigger of Joel killing the bloater.

The sniff thing Ellie did broke my fucking heart. That’s how I knew whoever wrote that part has truly experienced loss. When the only thing you have left of them is the smell on their fucking clothes. Man.

A second playthrough after accepting Joel's death is a must for sure. I remember on release being so pissed off at the game that it's all i thought about playing it but years later playing it again I just got it, it made sense once you can look passed it.

Most of the time when I watch challenge videos centred around tlou2 the creator spends half of the time complaining about Abby and how she’s the worst. I really liked how you talked about Abby’s story in a more positive demeanour and brought to light what Naughty Dog was trying to do with Abby’s story compared to Ellie’s. Good job man, and congrats on getting the platinum!

Great video, and I liked how playing through it again changed your perspective on the story, I hope other people get the chance to as well

Once I finally understood Ellie’s motivations for wanting abby dead, I realized why Abby was spared. Ellie wanted abby dead due to her guilt for not being able to forgive joel and just how horribly she treated him. After he dies, Ellie is unable to draw joels eyes because if you remember the abbys Joel in one, you would realize how disfigured his face was. Ellie is only reminded of his mangled face because it’s a metaphor for how she only viewed joel as a physical manifestation of his lie. It’s after Ellie heads back to SB and has abby right where she wants her…. she realizes how she never truly forgave joel. She always remembered Joel for what he did and the lie that ruined their relationship. She never remembers what he meant to not only her but many TLOU fans as well. He was the man who taught her how to play guitar, how to swim and cared deeply for her. That in essence was forgiveness… she never needed to avenge him to forgive him but, remember him for who he was. After this realization, Ellie basically had no reason to kill abby anymore. We also see this reflected in her journal when she goes to the farm for the last time. She doesn’t draw joel without his eyes but with him picking away at his six string on his porch. People seem to believe that ellie didnt get her happy ending but she did. She finally lets go of joels lie and remembers him for his character. She leaves the guitar to symbolize that she’s moved on from the anger she felt for him and carries on in his memory.

Perma death is so unforgiving. But very rewarding when you play out an encounter like the trailers they showed for this game when It came out. I'd also like to say I'm one of the few to beat it on Grounded Permadeath and not per chapter. What do I have to show for it? A New appreciation for the series and a cool anecdote that last a total of 12 seconds about beating it on the hardest difficulty. It was truly the way to play the game for a much more immersive approach. Take about 50MG of THC and live through the brutality of killing hundreds of infected and people. 10/10

Just finished the game. And I hate to admit it but you were right. Definitely it's a game that needs a second playthrough to understand and appreciate the complexity of the characters and plot. I guess the first time watching Joel die really left me in shock and my automatic response was to hate the game from then on. Thank you again for this video. You've done a great service.

I loved every minute of playing this game. I didn't mind playing as Abby at all, first time in my gaming time I played as the protagonist & antagonist in a game and truly loved it. I got the platinum first then got the 100% when those trophies were updated. I played permadeath on easy & obviously grounded on grounded, there was no help tutorial videos on youtube when i did my grounded playthrough so I had to wing the entire thing (not that I used them often when gaming in general), but looking back at it, was one of my best gaming experiences ever. Great video

I'm currently doing a Grounded run myself and I'm about halfway through Abby Day 2. It is a brutal yet incredibly satisfying experience. Interesting to see you cruise through parts I really struggled with such as The Seraphites, and vice versa, I found the woods section with Yara and Lev pretty easy. I cannot imagine doing this on a permadeth run, that is true masochism!

I feel like this game will be a good example of a game that ages well. Play it once and you hate it. Play it twice and you understand it. Play it three times and you respect it.

I'm sorry, a BRONZE trophy for completion with permadeath?! Ain't no way 💀💀

Tons of respect for you giving the game another go and really seeing the deeper meaning within. Great video and congrats on the accomplishment. Fantastic game.

Best game I ever played. Thousands of hours and still finding new things. Grounded permadeath (as someone who used to play everything on easy) took me about 9 months. It is A LOT! Will never stop playing these challenges and the story continues to amaze. The details are exceptional. Great video, good on you! And yes, the stalker forest is the hardest part for me too! You can learn the holdout but that forest is CURSED! Well done you!

amazing video, rly good job and props for the grounded + permadeath playthrough

Having the settings with both permadeath and grounded difficulty I feel like this takes a lot of patience this was absolutely fantastic great video

i’ve binged this video so many times for background noise. thank you again for what you do man, keep up the great work!!!

28 hours my god.. what a trooper. great video, I was hooked throughout the whole vid! good work

just stumbled on you channel but you videos are great! Great editing and flow! keep it up man

Really well done video for just 7k subs. Keep up the good work! I loved how you went about this

Duuude I'm giving you a Like for your perseverance alone! I could NEVER have that much patience😭. Such a fun video to consume👏🏾

I like that they added the missable cutscenes (especially the music shop one) It also tells u who knows how to play LOU & who doesn’t when watching different ppls playthroughs

I recently beat the game on grounded so if you are looking for tips, I got some great ones 1. Scour every single inch of the world, supplies are so scarce that finding a single bottle could mean the difference between life and death 2. I didnt know this until I played in grounded, but you cannot sneak up on clickers from the front, because they will screech and sense you 3. Tall grass is your best friend, if you are being attacked, dive into grass behind cover and they will lose you. 4. Use a stealth approach to every single encounter when possible 5. good luck

I agree. the story is much clearer when you've accepted Joel's death. it was spoiled for me when the game first came out so I took my time with it and by the time I decided to I watch a playthrough (I'm not a gamer and I don't have a console), I had already accepted his death. I watched the nicest gamer play both of the games back to back and I absolutely loved it. and I keep telling anyone who'll listen that Maggie, the girl I watched play part 2, killed the Rat King on her first try. she didn't even die. I'm so proud of her 😄

Hey man, i'm really happy to know that you changed your mind over the game, understanting it's meaning, I loved it since the launch

I love the subtle humor in this review. Definitely giggled here and there.

thanks for bringing back all good memories of this game 🔥❤

At first I thought this video was from some youtuber with a million subscriber I've never heard of. The Thumbnails, the editing, the titles. You've really put effort into it. :)

Happy you brought up the entirely optional Seattle music store cutscene. One of my favorites in the game as well and you can get through the whole game and never see it. Wild.

I loved Abby the first time I played through. At first I didn’t want to play her, but by the time she got to the aquarium I had the most respect and admiration for her. The forest cutscene is easily the most badass cutscene ever and it was so captivating watching it for the first time. Thanks for not talking smack about her like every other creator, she is easily my favorite character from any video game. Congrats on all the trophies!!

Dina giving us a warning saved probably 90% of players if not everyone

omg this entire time i’ve thought permadeath literally made you restart the entire game

After seeing this I had no choice but to subscribe congratulations man

16:42 Those shamblers, man. Those spore clouds detonating next to the waypoint can screw you over if you’re not careful.

Loved your perspective on the story after time. I haven't revisited but I hope to enjoy it as you did.

When i saw what the video was about i was like "huh a suicide mission nice" But it feels so satisfying when it's finally done, great work there buddy.🥰🥰 And too be honest i have never hated the game, because i understood what Naughty Dog was trying to tell us in the story, and after the fight with Abby i was honestly crying because of the message that the game was trying to give to you. So for me it has been nothing but a master piece since day 1.

Awesome video dude congrats💪🏼

I love this video and I’ve honestly been waiting for a last of us grounded video, you should make series of you completing the game with another challenge but you film the progress

I was gonna split my grounded & permadeath run so I could do perma on easy like a bitch. You convinced me to earn the platinum the brutal way🤞🏻My Ellie Day 2 is gonna turn tarnished

Okay this game along with the 1st tlou game are some of the best and most heartbreaking games out there. The amount of emotion in this game always brings me to tears no matter how many times i have played with elli singing with her guitar and Dina and her having "JJ" after everything that had happened to them its just amazing how they crafted this game and im not going to be able to watch Joel die at the hands of Abby ( which he deserved ) for the 7th time so far within 2023 and i just wanted ti say i really did enjoy your video!!....

Like I said on Twitter, congrats! Also this was an absolute fantastic video!!!

You deserve way more subs my man, what a time investment!

Insane. Well done sir. My ultra light difficulty is enough stress for me. 😎 great game

Great video my dude. Grounded and permadeath are no joke. I ended up doing both separately in my journey to 100%, but now I really wish I did them both together for that extra challenge. Also your note about listening mode speaks volumes. I used it way too much as a crutch on the lower difficulties of this game and still use it in other games that have a similar function. It's so hard to shake once you use it.

Love this. Ive been an xbox guy most of my life cuz thats what i had, but when i got a lil bit of that disposable income and got a ps4 as an adult, this became easily one of my top 5 games of all time

Holy hell, brother! What a commitment you made here. It's genuinely impressive to watch you go through the game playing on both grounded + permadeath while getting the final trophies! And as others have said your take on the story as a whole is so refreshing, but I also feel like a lot more people are beginning to feel this way. I had the same thoughts as you, when I returned to the game. And I've seen so many others talk about TLoU2 in a more positive way! Nonetheless, congrats on the platinum! And congrats for doing it on the hardest difficulty!

Joel’s face when he tells Ellie the truth about St. Mary’s 💔

God damn this game looks nearly undistinguishable from reality sometimes. So good.

I'm replaying this game at the moment and 5:00 is completely stuck in my head. Such a good song and such a good cover. Because of this game I found the MTV Unplugged version of the song too which is also incredible. Also, at 10:25 I completely missed that PS Vita, I just thought it was a phone every time I've played this game. Pretty impressive you did this without already maxing out weapon upgrades.

Glad this page got recommended to me it’s high quality content from a smaller creator

Funnily enough, Druckmann originally wrote Ellie killing Abby during the final confrontation into the script, but Gross talked him out of it saying that it would suit the game's narrative better if she didn't (ending the cycle of revenge, and all that)

OMFG thank you, this is such an amazing game and the story means something but people just couldn’t see it

Hell yeah! Another banger video!

Grounded by itself is ridiculously hard, enemies are like deadshot with their aim and they spot/hear you from miles away then it’s 1-2 shots and you’re down! As soon as I’m spotted I’m domed instantly. Kudos to you for having the perseverance to do this on grounded AND permadeath…..you are a madman though!

I commend you for making this content I could not imagine doing this for hours and hours, I’ve never played the second game but I played the first one through more than any game in my whole 22 years alive, but I would lose my patience if I had to restart chapters over and over especially due to my own inability to see a trap or just a straight up avoidable death or something 😅 good shit bro 👏🏻 Also I was dead @13:58 when you fell through the map😭🤣 and right before that when you were trying to get on the ladder 😭😭

It's always interesting to see different playstyles of this game on Grounded Permadeath. I always use stealth cuz I never have enough ammo for sections you're forced into combat. Interesting to see all out fighting in Grounded.

Satire you are seriously talented and VERY underrated

Such a beautiful game. Great video!

Agree with your assessment 100%, I didn’t hate my first time tho…but enjoyed the game even more 2nd.

I just played TLOU 2 on Grounded and for me the hardest bits were: The second Hillcrest segment (I wanted to take down all the enemies and loot it). The bit with the Scar sniper near the start of Abby's section. That Abby room that you struggled with, where you're waiting for Yara and Lev to open the door, what a nightmare that was, I had almost no ammo so had to melee most of the runners and shoot every clicker in the leg with one bullet and headshot them right after, and then deal with the Shamblers! And finally the last bit with Ellie, I was at no health and almost no ammo for the final rooms where all the body armour guys are. I feel your pain! PS I also fell out of bounds with Abby in the warehouse when climbing so its definitely screwed there!

One of the best videos I've ever seen.

The patience you have in order to beat permadeath is actually insane. I want a rage compilation from you

Abby is the strongest character in part 2, I’m not sure people were ready for just how nihilistic they were willing to go. I think most of the issues were with the structure and repetition rather than the plot itself

Your narrative throughout the playthrough has helped me better understand what radical acceptance is. Thanks for helping me grieve the loss of Joel and I hope to see your future commentary. - a new subscriber

You have patience man nice content my guy

Remind me never to pair off with Satiire in a zombie apocalypse if if ever want to survive more than 2 minutes 🤣🤣

I'm glad you appreciated Abby's character and arc - I was always shocked just how anti-Abby the TLOU community was, in a way that seemed to fundamentally miss the point of the entire narrative of TLOU2. Don't get me wrong, I liked Joel a lot, but that said his actions at the end of TLOU made his death in TLOU2 completely understandable, especially from someone like Abby.

Such a dig to the fans for making the permadeath trophy a bronze 😭

Really good video man keep it up man 😅!

I’ve been waiting for this video for 3 weeks.

I really think that the people who initially hated the story only to appreciate it later on did so because they matured as people.

On my 3rd playthrough grounded permadeath as well, it’s legit a pain in the ass but for some reason i just can’t stop playing and even wanted to play more, already accepted joel’s death on 1st playthrough and i kept getting so much inside depth of the story meaning after doing it many times and tryna understanding abby’s pov and combining both perspective, yet i still cried even though i already knew what’s gonna happen. Just a well crafted fucking game what can i say. But this challenge is not recommended yo.. it’s too fucking hard

Bro i finished this game on grounded and it was brutal and if you add the permadeath is nearly impossible, you should be proud of yourself, you gained a suscriber today best of luck.

But I respect this guy a lot to try this honestly man massive W of a video 💪

Honestly I think the worst and best part of this game for me is that I liked Abby’s section a lot. Obviously you hate what she did to Joel but getting a different survival perspective and the way she grows as a character, also the way they interact at the very end between her and Ellie. I think I’m in the minority of really wanting a full length Lev and Abby game

Great job on getting the platinum! When Part 1 comes out on PC, I really wanna give this a shot myself. Also, I'm glad you're also someone who enjoys Part 2 :)

I felt the same way as you my first playthrough, after playing it so many times now I got to love abby and really understand the whole picture, this game is my all time favourite

Good job man!

I only played the game once, and I loved it. it's great to see another person share their love of the game. Although I have a darker take on the ending of the game. I don't think Naughty Dog were trying to show Ellie moving one by leaving Joel's guitar, rather by losing some of her fingers in her mad quest for revenge she lost her last connection to him. Shown by how if you try to play the piano in the last scene you'll miss a lot of notes. By leaving Dina and their baby I think Ellie is more lost then ever making for a good starting point for the next game.

Since Uncharted 2, i've been playing every single Naughty dog game in the hardest difficulty because it's so damn good

"The fan favorite chaecter Abby" . Had me in stitches.

I’m way late to this video. But it was amazing. And I adore this game. Good job mate

as a bro whos gotten platinum/100% on this game, i can agree GROUNDED IS INSANE

Thank you for understanding the brilliance of the game devs!!! This is exactly how I want to make my games with such a compelling story that splits the community and the people who hate it don’t have the actual game, but how the story decides to go because that’s how you know you made an amazing game, you can’t please everyone but having the guts to kill off important characters for the sake of telling a story is just beautiful. I still get mad that Joel dies but it just makes the story the masterpiece that it is, can’t wait for TLOU3

Welcome to the club brother.

Props brother this was A LOT

10:37 caught me so far off guard and I couldn't stop laughing

People are finally starting to come around to this game

Im really glad people are replaying this game and changing their minds about it

so glad I finally found a well-made video about tlou2 that does just crap on Abby the whole second half. after playing, I can safely say I love Abby just as much as Ellie. I'm convinced ppl who hate her never bothered to understand the actual plot or how Ellie and Abby are essentially identical

I Platinumed this game a couple weeks ago, but those Grounded and Permadeath trophies can stay unchecked lol

nice one, the first time i played i was angry and sure that i wouldnt like abby when i stated playing as her... guess who ended up trying not to figth abby in the pilars

the thumbnail art reminds me of Nomad being perused by Wolves from Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Breakpoint The cinematic trailer has an opening shot that looks a lot like that, so cool

Exactly doubles the time.. Wow, doesn't make it look easy at all, but sure deserve admiration for the time and persistent.. well played

I’m doing this game now inorder to get the plat and get the grounded permadeath trophies, so far it’s been hell

Loved this game ❤will definitely be be getting the first one for ps5

Getting the platinum on Grounded plus with Permadeath is like climbing the everest with a couple of fingers. And there, you finally did it. Congratulations.

Listen I’m gonna say it. After replaying the game for the 3rd time I still stand by the fact that it’s still a good game. Will I be the only one standing on the hill? Yes. Do I care? Fuck no