Love your videos. Always straight and to the point. You could’ve easily made that video 20-30 minutes longer.

Take them to the track, thats what I really want to see.

I appreciate that you weighed both cars as well!

Thx. Perfect length for a video like this too. Right to the point without wasting our time.

great video on this. Appreciate the time put in!!

Really appreciate you weighing the cars. I assumed the newer one would have been at least 100lbs heavier so I was surprised

One of the best comparison I’ve ever seen

It’s all in what flavor you want. Seen some negative comments on new S650. Both S550 and S650 have their strong points. Bang for the dollar still goes to S550 but upgraded tech goes to S650. Personally I like the S197 from a purist standpoint. An that’s the current model I own. Already owned S550 but went back to S197. That’s the key to Mustang’s success, has a flavor for everyone

I will keep my 19 GT 401 packages with Active Exhaust 🎉❤❤

Love the real info!!! Science always wins. Subscribed.

Wow what a difference, now I’m excited to get mines soon..!!! I’m definitely subscribing to your channel! Great video!

shots fired at CJ with 93 octane and not rushing the video lol

2024 sounds so much better and grownup. I can’t wait!

Great comparison vid! Thanks for the info!

Landon great updated info. I for one would like to see theses almost identical cars race each other that will be positive proof especially upstairs.

That s650 needs about 800-1000rpm more for the limiter it’s still pulling!

Thank you. what a great comparison!!

The mach 1 gen 3 coyote already made s650 power with GT350 intake manifold . The s650 just making more power due to the intake manifold .

The top end on that 2024 is crazy

Awesome video.

Great video on comparing the two generations. It really gives you an idea on the difference on the 3rd and 4th Gen coyote.

Great video. I wish 90% of other channels would take your approach with shorter videos.

Apples to apples, nicely done.

That's an impressive jump in power for the stock engine. I wonder if that will mean that the Gen 4 will have less upside for aftermarket tuning once the Gen 4 tuning market matures or even more upside since the change in intake architecture. I'd hope more due to more air, but that's just a guess.

This is a very good comparison! REally like seeing stuff like this.

Excellent video!

1. Gen 3 with an E85 tune will likely match or beat the new Gen 4 2. Gen 4 will not have tuning support for a while, and may require your PCM to be sent off to be unlocked 3. Gen 3 with a manual will already have the Gen 4 10R80 beat bone stock on the dyno 4. With no tuning support, very little mod support. CAI's will be expensive because you're paying for 2 of them, and likely won't offer much gain 5. Removing carbon traps from intake may have potential legal (emissions) and warranty issues Things to consider if you want a 2024... If you want it for the looks + performance and don't plan on modding and want a NEW car, well then the 2024 is for you. If you want to mod and tune, then you may want to get an older model.

Gen 3 boys will come around soon enough.. 😂

Fantastic comparison

Wicked awesome video. Subscribed

Great comparison video! thanks

I just can't get over the hate boner Mustang fans have on the gen 4. The engine is most certainly not a dud.

awesome video.... did a great job

Great video

Gotta take them to the track. What’s what matters

Loved it

Great video awesome car love the new mustang Ford powered forever baby keep on pulling the knot out of them boties and the horns off them mopars l love it

Excellent, thank you for using the 93 gas What mode ? Drag ? Sport Plus? ... drag mode gives me three tenths quicker every time with the dragy,it revs to 7400,sport plus stops at 6600rpm, and I don't know why because when I switch to drag mode at 80 mph it does not downshift but I can hear a big difference in the motor... anyway good video.

I swear I think these 2024's are so gorgeous

For anyone curious, one gallon of fuel is 7lbs.

First W for a gen 4 on dyno

Gen 4 also has a more straightened curve at the top end Good healthy bump over the older Gen

Waiting for all the people online who say their gen 3 made 430 whp bone stock

Good stuff

Excellent comparison! Also, thank you for getting to the point. From description to results, that was perfect! Thank you again.

Would be interesting to see some logs in Hptuners scanner software and see what trickery ford it doing with those 2 throttle bodies. I saw plenty of s550's over 400 on the dyno when they came out. That 22 is making gen 2 power .

The 2024s pull like crazy up top

One would think a simple roll race would answer the question. But what do I know...

Curious how a 2018-2021 compares. You guys dyno'd that one at 415whp completely stock (X-pipe is worth 5whp) with the 10R80 and the PP1's 275s.

Glad I stuck with my 2018 GT. Much closer to the S650 than the '22. But after an ESS super charger and other upgrades, I am REALLY happy. LOL.

Not a true test. Ford added the extra throttle body to try and minimize HP loss with the carbon trap. We know on a gen 3 the carbon trap can be removed. Shouldve dynoed without the carbon trap on the gen 3.

These results are interesting, Stangmode's '24 went 12.30's @ 116 suggests the power should be about the same?

Can’t lie buddy I got a half chub

Do both of them with the manual transmission next time please 😊

Like to see a Bullitt or Mach1 and a Dark Horse

So Landon, back in 1999 I bought a 1999 convt. cobra new, which was the crown jewel at the time in Ford's corral. Well after a month of purchase, I heard that the cobra was putting out less horsepower than what Ford was taunting. Of course that didn't make me feel good about my purchase. Well, he took his new cobra to be dyno'ed, as all mustang owners do, prior to starting the modification process. However, it revealed the shortcomings in HP output so straight to the local Ford dealership with the results. Long story short, Ford found that the cylinder heads were not machined properly and the exhaust was inefficient. A recall of all1999 cobras was sent out. I took mine in and got it back. It seemed faster and stronger but I never had it dyno'ed to prove it. I did take it out, ran it up to 148 or before I got nervous, so that was good enough for me. My question is, could this be a similar thing with the 2024's? Because what I'm hearing from you experts is that without removing the carbon web inside the air tube, removing the cover from the airbox, it should be putting down better numbers closer to what Ford announced. Right now, my 2018 with just a cold air intake, no tune and a flow master catback is putting down 409 - 418. Your thoughts? Thank you for the PSA. :)

The weight is about the same or very close it seems since the 24 has big brembo brakes

Damn when and if those ecus get unlocked on the gen 4 they are going to be some bad NAs in the car scene

I have a low 6 second 60 to 130 ten speed 5.0 Mustang and the top end is insane. Now we have a dual throttle body on the upgraded gen 4 Coyote which the top end is going to be even crazier!

I thought the gen 3 dyno around 415/425 for a auto. Now every time I see back to back dyno for a 3rd gen vs a 4th gen coyote. The 3rd gone magically dynos less than it ever did

so the 2022 starts falling on its face after 5000rpm? what should be the shift point on it?

I'll take either complete stock motor and transmission a put Them in my 1981 foxbody mustang coupe and see what it does under the same conditions with an 8.8 posi rear end

Should’ve at least used a cold air intake or non restricted air filter housing being the Gen4 has dual CAi

So my 22 Mach 1 is about the same has a 24 mustang.

So basically 10 to 15k more for a panoramic infotainment system, facelift, and 10 to 20 hp. Cool.

for the love of god thank you for NOT using 87 octane like the other companies dishonest clown comparison.

Should've did a 2018-2021

The biggest issue of S550/650 Mustangs is WEIGHT, I mean these cars must be in 3600s, 200 Lbs is BIG in NA DOhC world

Hott damn y’all!!! 40 ponies

Power to weight still favor the '12-'13 BOSS 302 cars..........they RULE! S197 that is!

Now all those guys complaining claiming that their Gen 3 made the same power stock as a Gen 4 can shut up😂 literally not true

Why do they not try and reduce weight in the Mustang. Use more high strength steel.

was thinking that looks a hell of a lot like little river, thenit was little river. are there no strips up near waco??? itd be weird. all this damn land in texas and weve gotta drive 50 miles out in the country to a drag strip.

Please tell us why mafs and map is being used map would of been cool but both ?

I have a 2012 Boss 302 that is quicker than both of these...stock for stock...so 10-12 years didn't really make any difference on the drag strip.

I am not impressed. The base HP on my 2018 was 220HP and 200TQ. 40Hp less then the advertised net HP. The 2024 mustang is 486 net advertised and bases out at 420HP same as my 2018. Could someone explain to me where is the 26hp improvement from my 2018 mustang to the 2024?

The 19 didn’t get hit with that power drop. So would that mean on the dyno it’s like what 15-20hp more

How is active exhaust adding horsepower with a valve when a non active exhaust has no type of valve that can restrict it?

I Like the Gen' 3, 2018 - 2023 Headlights, More But I Like Gen' 4 2024 Taillights, Go Figure?

Take the CFT out the 24.. I wanna see something real quick.. 👀

Can you imagine how much a corsa intake would cost for this mustang

I know I'm being that guy but I wonder what the difference is without the upgraded exhaust for the 2024 and if it was a 2018-2020 car to compare.

So if Gen 2 is rated @ 435hp , then that means about 370ish rear wheel horsepower?

final drive ratio the same?!?!

What Hp did the 24 make at 6900 rpm

S197 all day

So the 2024 is anywhere from 50-75lbs heavier?

Air intake on the 2022 was over 100 degrees, doesn't that pull timing? Air temp was upper 80's, why was intake temp103?

remove the carbon filter and with 70 less pounds I’ll take the s550. Throw in a tune and walk the s650 all while saving $7k

Using the best 4th gen with active against the worst gen 3? Makes no sense

Oh no the trolls wont like this

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So my cars 3.15 gears but tuned so do I still dyno in 5th?

should've taken out the carbon filter on the '22 its been proven to gain back the hp loss from 18-21. Takes like 5 minutes.

Why not dyno it against a 18-21 or at least remove the restricting carb factor on the 22? 24 is making pretty much the same gen3's make before the dumb carb restriction

I understand their using a 22 so the hp is lowered but a 18-21 mt82 makes 410-415, that’s less than 10hp away from the gen4. Not worth it to buy a s650 in my opinion.

Lower RPM slopes are very interesting between the two. Gen 3 is making almost 300hp/tq at 2500rpm whereas the Gen 4 is making a paltry 150hp/tq

The gen one makes 420hp these numbers are weird

E85 tune remove the carbon trap on a gen3 more power done deal ...The big question is what will happen to the ECU if you remove the (twice-baked potato) carbon filters from the gen4 ...possibly shut down possibly not ONLY FORD KNOWS ..

Why didn’t they both hit 7.3rpm