I wanted to cry too when the nanny spoke. Heart wrenching 💔

When I first heard of this incident, I had a lot of mixed feelings. I still do. The lesson for me personally is listen when someone tells you through their words & actions that he or she is seriously unwell. I can not help but feel grief & regret for the loss of 3 gorgeous girls 😢 At the end of the day, everyone lost it. Graham lost Lauren a long time ago. Lauren lost her mind a very long time ago. This is one very long but sad story.

OMFG, she admitted to the police that she killed Karla first because the two-year-old had been “really, really, really horrible to me lately”. She’s got next to no chance of succeeding in her defences of insanity/infanticide.

If anyone ever says that they think they might harm their children then PLEASE listen and get help IMMEDIATELY.

Do the crime do the time, she’s absolutely shocking.

Funny how she feared being murdered by South Africans, meanwhile she is a serial killer posing as a mother. You cant cry victim when you can afford the best assistance or help in any country. She murdered her kids, and won't even show remorse for it... she has the audacity to plead mental insanity. I hope they give her life sentence...

Lord have mercy..... those children.. I rarely cry when watching videos but this one made me sob in sorrow.

hubby might feel guilty cause he might have been the one that persuaded her that she should get off the meds to ensure their immigration went smoothly and he didn't realize she wouldn't cope. Pure speculation on my part.

Graham had been out for a social event with co workers prior to coming home and finding the terrible event, not arriving home from a busy day at work. Home being directly opposite his place of work.

Very well explained Nicole…! Thank you

Hi Nicole, thank you for covering this case. Was wandering for long now; what happened? Remember before this happened, remember about the South African mom,, I think the family lived in London,, who also killed her children? I almost think one of the children had some kind of medical problem. It must have been 4, 5 years ago? That case also just vanished - no news whatsoever. Can't remember any names, unfortunately!! Would be awesome if you could cover this as well please?

Thank you so much for covering this. The justice system in New Zealand is broken, her case in constantly postponed due to insanity but there’s no hope she’ll get charge even though she should be.

This is a very tragic and scary story. How must have been the frame of mind of Lauren. This is hectic and this is so tragic

Thank you for covering this one

How could anyone pearl harbour their own children like that. Even if my brain was cooked in a microwave I would not resort to that. There is evil behind it

My son, bipolar is a raging, destructive swearing, doing all kinds of irresponsible things, like running into traffic. He is a sweet, amazing boy while he is on his meds. I do not condone what she did, but if she is bipolar, unmedicated and triggered by her kids behavior it's possible she snapped. When my son is in mania, the smallest thing irritates him. The irony is they used IVF to fall pregnant, so at one stage she must have really wanted the little ones. However this played out, it is such a sad, sad situation. I also lay blame at the system, because unless you are wealthy, getting help and therapies is a struggle.

So difficult to comprehend why a mother does such a thing...there's also been similar cases in UK and Ireland a few years back.

I mean what was the desperation to get to new zealand? And for a Dr to leave her meds knowing the consquences all to get to new zealand in such a flipping hurry? Did they go abroad for a better and safer life for her kids? Only to be murdered by their mother. Gee wiz...the stranger you know personified

Hi Nicole, this case is very recent here in NZ...I believe the husband has returned to South Africa. Oh...you just covered that. I honestly take my hat off to every immigrant here. It is such a huge step, to travel to a new country with little to no family or support systems in place to begin with. Those things come with time. I have no idea about the precise laws regarding health status and what we consider important. I wish she had stayed on her medication and the family had divulged that information. We definitely have our fair share of Mental health issues here as well. It is not automatically considered to be a deal breaker..well. not in my experience. Incredibly sad case. But thankyou for covering it.

I like the shorts of current affairs thanks hun

Graham worked at Timaru hospital. Lauren is in Hillmorton hospital. I think she had bipolar disorder, and if she had disclosed that she may not have been allowed to come to New Zealand. I think she had mania with delusions and psychosis. I have had this happen to me. She was out of touch with reality when she committed this crime, so will probably be found not guilty by reason of insanity. She was very ill, not evil. I feel sorry for her as much as I do her husband and dead children. She sounded like a warm, loving Mum when she was well. Perhaps look up Andrea Yates..similarities to that case. From Christchurch, New Zealand.

Horrifying!!! Poor babies 🥺😭😭😭 I like the longer videos btw😁

Nicole I loved your previous intro with the rose!

Just a wee correction, Hillmorton Hospital is where Lauren is now, a forensics Psychiatric Hospital, Her Husband worked a Timaru Hospital, he was with his Colleagues when this happened, Absolutely heartbreaking for Everyone.

Thats absurd. Immigration based on chronic meds for a doctor no less. Theyd rather put her children at risk.

Current affairs will be great and follow up, thx

Heartbreaking story, I can’t imagine how the dad must be feeling. It’s tempting to jump to conclusions, i can’t think of a psychiatric condition that would lead one to murder their children in such a violent manner as you point out. BTW I came across a story about a South African “snuff” murderer in Alaska, case is ongoing, might be a good one for your South Africans murdering abroad series. The chap's name is Brian Smith.

Excellent, Nicole, I only found your Channel recently whilst looking up the Griekwastad Murders. Can you do a Video of the Murder of Michelle Thomas, who in 1981 won the "World Freestyle/Disco Championships" for South Africa in the UK. She was quite well known for a while among Disco Fans especially. I remember the Headlines at the time "Married at 15, Mother at 16, Divorced at 17, World Champion at 18". She was Murdered by Her controlling Boyfriend Steve Lawrence, a Policeman, who kidnapped her from one of Her Shows, after He threatened to shoot the other Dancers. I only found out about her Murder recently, I don't know what year the Murder Happened though. I have Subscribed to your Channel. Viewing from Potters Bar, England.💖

Love your channel. It is important for others to learn, love, and try to understand each other, imo. (I'm going to guess you are a teacher? ) (

Here in NZ we are strict on making sure immigrants have a good standard of health so that they don’t use up the scarce health resources that we have. Unfortunately in this case she didn’t disclose her mental disorder and is now taking up a bed in our mental health system, and possibly will for years to come. From what I have read she had mental issues before she got here, so it isn’t fair to blame our Covid quarantine system for this tragedy. Rest in peace little ones

Very upsetting for everyone concerned.

A follow-up or following of this case unfolding would be nice!

Listened to Graham's testimony and he seems to have a new Zealand accent. Not sure if the testimony was dubbed?

Hi Nicole, any updates on this case?

I have a theory on this case which is very different to the version which is being provided by the media.

I have not lived in New Zealand but I have been there, I remember in 2011 during the rugby world cup a fellow South African was fined for entering the country with an apple, having said that I can only imagine their laws regarding any for of drug prescribed or not.

One of the most evil women here in New Zealand took the lives of those precious children

Evil woman! 100 percent to kill three children!

I can just imagine how terrible for her with no medication, no support and her husband busy at his new job. I am very sure she did speak out some time or else he was too blind to take note. Phew

Nz here. We have health screenings for immigrants but having schizophrenia or bi-polar does not exclude you for residency. My bet is lauren felt she didnt need her medication anymore as she felt better and was cured. Its ultra common for these 2 disorders. Graham was not employed by Hillburton Hospital. That is the mental hospital lauren was put in pending her trial. Graham was employed by Timaru Regional Hospital. Their neighbours called the police. Not actually Graham. He was naturally incapable. This is such a terrible shame. They would have been a fantastic addition to NZ too.

She was found guilty of murder x 3, but cause New Zealand criminal system is a joke I won’t be surprised if she is out in 6yrs. She is at a mental hospital claiming she was “having a breakdown” at the time but is not insane anymore, so if she is fine she should be in jail, I hope she has bad dreams and screams and cries everyday for the rest of her natural life.

Tragic 😥

Hillmorton MENTAL HEALTH is in Christchurch where she is. TIMARU is two hours away, her husband had a job to start in Timaru. I live in siuth island.

They moved to Timaru (pronounced Tim - a - roo) South Island NZ. Graham worked at Tjmaru Hospital. Lauren was admitted to Hillmorton Hospital which is the Psychiatric Hospital based in Christchurch

Hey my love, it’s been over a year now can you please look into this case proceeding ❤

NO EXCUSES!!!!!

13 minute video, think we got the short end of the stick today 😂

Feel so sorry for the father of the kids...

Hope this trial is televised, just so we can make sense of this tragedy.

@NicoleClaire, at time (5:47) of this podcast is said "before she came to SA", perhaps it is NZ?

She was struggling being at home with 3 kids.

The father was working at Timaru hospital, his wife was eventually sent to Hillmorton psychiatric hospital in Christchurch for treatment post homicide.

This woman is saying she was insane when she killed her kids. She has enough money to pay for the best lawyers in NZ plus she is a doctor plus she is white. A native NZ’r who kills one kid under stress will automatically go to jail and not a hospital like this woman did. She has a disease of the heart. Im sick and tired of the privilege that the media in my country, NZ are giving this woman - like I said if it were a native NZ’r they would not be given the same privileges as Lauren has been given. Everything in the news and the court is all wrapping cotton wool around her. She killed one kid and she didn’t know what she was doing? She killed another and still didn’t know and then the third? What a load of rubbish. She committed murder! And now she is playing the “I am insane” card. I’ve watch her in the court room and there have been discrepancies in her narration of what happened. She knew what she was doing. She wasn’t on medication at the time. She admitted she killed them to the police. In court she’s fully aware of what she did. Thank God there’s a judgement day for people like Lauren that may just get a slap on the hand by the man made justice system. You know there was NZ guy that was clearly insane when he killed his daughter here in NZ - he was running around naked saying crazy stuff and he didn’t get off the hook for murder because of insanity - he got locked up for life because he was a brown poor native who couldn’t even afford a lawyer! Lauren on the other hand is already in favour of the judge, he just gave his speech to the jury today and you can already tell he is in favour of the insane plea by the way he is selling it to the jury - that’s because of the “credentialism” that surrounds this case - she’s paid for a KC lawyer (King’s Council) - top lawyer in the country, her own professional credentials and her being able to afford a good defence team. Money talks in the court circles. Lauren is able to pay the best doctors and lawyers to help her win her case.

She, stopping her medication, (probably abruptly), was a ticking time bomb.

She tried to strangle them with cable ties that failed so she smothered them.Staggering.

Latest news: It is going to be a real uphill battle for Lauren to succeed in her insanity defence. The Crown has a lot of evidence to show that she wasn’t a “loving mother”, resented the kids and was often angry and frustrated with them. Her husband has said that she was not a nurturing mother. She messaged her friend the night before saying she wanted to “divorce” her kids. And she didn’t do herself any favours in her first I interview with the police. Major depressive disorder (admitted on both sides) and a “snap” is nothing like the psychotic break I had assumed it was. The evidence against her is damning. I’ll be interested to hear the expert evidence presented in her defence.

Yes it was cable ties. She looked up on line how to kill them. He was at welcome dinner she was home with children. I lived in joburg years ago life here in nz is very different no maids forca start.

I don't care about the medication she took.. She killed her kids and people feel sorry for her.. Its funny when a father kills his kids, he doesn't get any sympathy

if you prescribe medication to a new mother for post partum where is the husbands responsibility to make sure the woman gets rest and the children get proper care this i didn't realize crap is nonsense

She will be found not guilty as a result of insanity.

Granted Lauren is also a “victim “ according to her husband, the big but is that who’s the BIG aggressor against the dead victims? It wasn’t a fair “fight “ amongst ALL the victims. Little children who were clearly on the HUGE disadvantages from physical, mental, emotional and intellectual conditions. If she was a full time medical doctor relying on a nanny for her children MOST of the time, then tasked to watch them herself because of extenuating circumstances, then she’s probably pushed to her limits (remember, if has a nanny, then she has never developed the true sense of nurturance or patience gained only from experience) outside her job as a medical doctor (used to be obeyed by her underlings), my wild guess is that she was very frustrated dealing real time with the active children. The children were naturally “hyper “ because it is part of their milestones. Her frustration was that exacerbated by her baseline mental illness. The lure of high salary was very attractive, she’s confident she’s ok without her medication, overestimating her ability to handle the children without the nanny, she made her decisions to migrate…all involved conscious decisions, conscious choices, etc. plus, she’s a medical doctor so used to making decisions, orders, choices, rationales for whatever involving her children. What I am saying is that defense of pure mental illness is a HUGE disservice to the SMALL children, crimes committed by a PROFESSIONAL in the medical and healthcare field. I hope that the little victims will also have superior advocates so that their victimhood will not be rinsed off by waterdown excuses in the guise of post partum murders.

So if Dickason stopped taking her chronic medication in order to comply with her immigration requirements, then it follows that she was cheating in her application, and entering New Zealand under false pretenses. Countries have entry requirements, exactly because they want to exclude certain types of people, because of the problems that those people may pose. It is their country, and they have the right to set their rules. One assumes that Dickason was intent on resuming her usual medication once she was past the immigration hurdle, and then New Zealand would have sat with someone in their country who had entered fraudulently , under false pretenses, and who really was not entitled to be there. So I don't think much of Dickason based on this alone. As for the next tragic chapter, where she strangles her own daughters, well, that is just 'next level'...

FACT CHECK: They moved to Timaru NOT CHRISTCHURCH He worked for Timaru hospital not Hillmorton Lauren was transported to Hillmortan hospital which is the south islands main psychiatric hospital and also has a criminal section for those under a psychiatric hold for crimes etc. this is in Christchurch

They need to do way instain mother

The idea that you would have your visa turned down because you are on mental health medication is ridiculous. The decision to stop taking it on this basis is foolhardy and distorted thinking.

The eldest's name is pronounced Lee-ah-nay. While it's worth while to discuss crime cases, if you're going to do it focus on getting the details correct otherwise it just perpetuates inaccuracies. They moved to Timaru, not Christchurch. He worked at Timaru Hospital not Hill Morton (this is where Lauren has been remanded for psychiatric evaluation). He was out in the evening with colleagues at a function, not work. I really hate how speculation becomes fact as it's repeated in media and then by people. Case in point the immigration lawyer essentially stating that she was a 'severely psychiatrically disturbed person'. There has been zero evidence towards this, he is not a psychological professional, and just sounds like someone jumping on the bandwagon of speculation. Personally, if one was severely affected, even with medication, I doubt you'd have the childcarer (who was in the house and a close part of their lives) not noticing anything amiss, nor friends, colleagues etc. Fact: There are no details of her chronic medication or possible diagnoses. For all we know it could have been antidepressants, something which I'm sure most people would not consider alarming to choose to stop for immigration, nor indicative of a severely disturbed person. Fact: there has been no confirmation or information from official sources of how the children were killed. The cable tie aspect has just been reproduced in the media, but comes from one source of speculation. Fact: She was found to be unresponsive and in a critical condition. That is not the same as being sane. Now, even though I highlighted that nothing prior to their move necessarily indicated a severe psychiatric disorder, just that she was taking chronic medication of a sort, obviously there was something seriously wrong at the time it took place. Given that, based on reports of her behaviour, the family, the fact that they tried for a family for so long, were, for all intents and purposes, a loving family as reported by those who knew them; she was not narcissistic, sociopathic, abusive nor violent. So it is likely that she was experiencing some sort of psychiatric episode at the time (this is speculation, based on a critical evaluation of what is known). My opinion would be in line of a psychotic break. I don't think people realise, it's not just feeling super stressed and then suddenly 'I can't handle anything'. It involves hallucinations, delusions, paranoia and distortions of reality. In that state you can believe 100% that your children are suffering immensely and you need to relieve them of their suffering. Or you could believe you are saving them from something. Also, that you don't need to have a history of severe mental illness to experience this. There is biological predisposition, definitely an increased chance if you do have bipolar disorder for example, but not necessarily. You also get depression with psychotic features. You're depressed and then you experience an episode of psychosis, but it's not that both start at the same time, nor can it be easily be predicted that the you could develop psychotic features. Some medication also can have adverse effects such as psychosis. In most cases yes, there is a motive, yes a person is driven to commit a horrible crime, and their actions aren't excusable. But in rare cases, and I believe this is one of them, it's not necessarily the case. Regardless, I can't imagine a hell worse than realising the children you wanted for years, struggled to conceive, and loved dearly are gone by your own doing. Hopefully with the trial, the facts will come to light.

The father is just as guilty, the neighbours heard him say "I can't believe you actually did it". They knew. GO HOME LAUREN AND ROT!!!!!

Lots of misinformation in this video. Graham Dickason worked at Timaru Hospital, not Hillmorton Hospital. He is an orthopaedic surgeon, not a psychiatrist. You mispronounced Timaru, which is an indigenous Māori place name. Graham didn’t find the children when he got home from work. He'd been out that evening for a work related function. Lauren Dickason has been found guilty on all 3 counts of murdering her children. There was no evidence of psychosis. The children were smothered, not strangled. She is a very privileged, wealthy, white woman who murdered her children. Someone who isn't white ir wealthy probably wouldn't receive the same amount of sympathy.

I am not in the least bit surprised that Lauren did what she did. Clearly there were serious underlying issues that she and her husband were trying to hide, while her husband would have had demands made on him at work that he would never have imagined, much less anticipated and prepared for, before immigrating to NZ and starting work here. He would have been a "nervous wreck" by the time he touched down on NZ soil, and then he would have been expected to jump into his new job and start producing results straight away without missing a beat. And, unlike in SA there is little to no workplace training given to new recruits in NZ ... you swim or sink ... being expected to know everything that any "Kiwi" person does. Kind of in the same vein as "if you cannot take the heat in the kitchen" thing. Unfair, I know, but that's the way it is here. Full disclosure of all health conditions is an area that I cannot over-emphasize must happen if a would-be immigrant is to succeed and be happy. If Lauren did not make it very clear to Immigration New Zealand what her medical conditions were before or even after arriving in New Zealand, and, if she and/or her husband purposefully and intentionally tried to hide medical conditions that they knew would be unfavourable to the outcome of their immigration application/s, then there would have been NO empathy or sympathy or support for their case from Immigration New Zealand. Rightly so I believe. NZ is a small country (approx. 5 million people live here in total) with very limited resources. State health services, especially hospitals, have been underfunded for GENERATIONS, and, they're really struggling to cope, and, not just because of Covid either. Sickly immigrants are not what this country needs, and, if you are not well stay in South Africa until you get better ... or not. Much anxiety, stress, despair, tears, money and other resources will be saved if you do this one simple thing. You cannot cheat or lie your way into this country. Their immigration officials are very, very good at their jobs, and they've seen and heard it all before. Honesty is always the best policy. Note too that the most recent obstacle that seems to be a stumbling block for South Africans is being overweight. So the moral of this story is that if you need to ask the air hostess for a double lap belt after you sit down in the plane seat before flying out to New Zealand I suggest you get up, walk over to the nearest crew member, and tell them you need to disembark as you will be wasting your money and time coming here should you be overweight.

I have a diagnosis of bipolar disorder, and have had a dozen psychotic breaks since 2010. Going off medication is part of the condition. There are very few sufferers who have not done it at least once. The first time it is completely unforseeable to the person what the consequences will be even if warned by a psychiatrist. Psychiatrists don’t know everything and that’s particularly obvious to educated people such as myself and Lauren. They do not have lived experience, so their knowledge is limited and it is completely unknown why or how the medication works. And the side-effects can be brutal. If Lauren’s doctors had previously advised her that she had a “chemical imbalance” in her brain, well they would have lost all credibility right there. The theory has never been proven and is, in fact, a big load of BS. Even if she courted the risk of another episode, she would never have considered the possibility that she might kill her kids. So, from a legal point of view (I am a NZ lawyer), the medication issues are MOOT. I don’t know a lot about this case, but what I do know is what goes on in the minds of people when they are psychotic. We are totally immersed in our own reality, unaware that there is any other reality where different rules/moral principles apply. There WILL be an explanation for why Lauren did what she did - one or more delusions which would have driven her actions at the time. The experiences during psychosis are more real than real. That’s what we all report when we come back to consensus reality. So many comments here by smug people who think they would never do this. That’s because you don’t know what it’s like to be insane. If you believed 100 percent the same delusions as Lauren at the time she took the lives of her children, you would have done it too. You simply cannot say that you wouldn’t have. Even those few people here who have been diagnosed with a mental illness, or psychosis, cannot say they would never harm others. What delusions did you have when you were psychotic? Did you hear command voices? Were you paranoid? Only a rare few psychotic people harm others, but it’s not because they’re better people. It’s because they’re not as mentally unwell as Lauren obviously was.

Please bring back capital punishment….

Lauren also had a miscarriage too.

Your videos has been too short lately 😕

You are killing with a gun. You are pulling the trigger. Are you kidding? I’m in USA . You know nothing about guns. Why would you pass wrong information?

Luckily for Mum and Dad they didn't forget their cable ties. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

This poor woman, as a person who takes chronic medication, I know you don’t stop taking medication for love nor money, without your doctors advice and guidance. I can’t believe she was a doctor! She had a psychotic break because of this. She should not be held accountable.

Send her to life in jail..for life wth out parole and . Anyone do this evil thing to there own kids .they don't deserve freedom. Should lock up for good