Silverhand was a terrorist, whether he wanted to be or not. And it’s not because he bombed a tower or whatever. It’s because he straddled the line between freedom fighter and a psychotic murderer - by blending those two parts of himself, he saw vindication for his actions, while others (besides the fans of his music) just saw a terrorist. That being said, if someone did to my wife, Panam Palmer, what was done to Alt, yyyeah I’d want to destroy them too and by any means possible, collateral damage be damned.

Johnny is a shitty older brother who Resents the way he treated the people around him, but dies before saying sorry or fixing anything. Given a second chance he takes the opportunity to influence V in a way that can guide them towards a fulfilling purpose in the world of Cyberpunk. All G wanted was to be a legend, Johnny gives them the keys to that life.

“V*”

Hell yeah well it's like in real life you meet someone (in this case forcefully) what do you tell first? Usually the epic stories of how you felt like youre a badass then you start to open up and tell the tragedies and how things weren't always as epic...see I was stoked to see Silverhand even if he's a corrupt copy cause well I've been playing this a long time and when they said hes gonna be Keanus I was stoked so I always made friends with Silverhand! This being said yeah his loses are nuts so is Vs is like damn no one catches a break. I like to choose the nomad life path as I feel it close like you feel a closer bond to Silverhand...that's just my opinion but seeing all I can't fuckin wait for Orion it's gonna be nuts!!!

Hey layedback did you look up cyberpunk project Orion recently they're doing a gdc conference meet and ask questions in San Francisco! Sadly I can't go but you definitely should that's in your direction lol

Johnny would be a massive hypocrite if he took control of V's body. For a guy against authoritarianism, it'd be quite authoritarian for him to hijack V's body.

It's really a shame we didn't get more expansions and we likely won't be seeing him in Orion. But who knows, maybe a project outside of video games will give us more Silverhand!

Thanks to CDPR all we got is empty feeling average looking game. No background, no mechanics, no 'real' Cyberpunk taste.

@@ipatates gotta be the most delusional take of this year 💀

What the hell this man just say?!

Definitely delusional maybe lives under rock possibly 😂

Another thing to add is how songbird mentions there is corrupted data in the relic. It is also a theory of mine that the clearing of that data gave v a few extra days if not a bit longer

​@tylerrussell9926 That's a good thought. The corruption could also just be from the data being altered and copied, and altered again and again while under the "care" of Arasaka. Or it could be the result of Yorinobu hastily putting the engram on the Relic while trying to keep it secret.

One very strange thing about the relic is that it appears to be extremely volatile in the Cyberpunk 2077 V and Jackie relic heist. But that same relic existed in the radioactive ridden ruins of the destroyed Arasaka tower inside Johnny's remains for some time before Samantha arrives to collect Johnny and his belongings. So not only did it survive a nuclear warhead detonation but also the extreme conditions that came after but for some reason has to be kept in a high controlled environment to survive the 2077 events.

⁠@@TheControlsterThing is the relic we see in 2077 is an experimental prototype meant to stay ‘in house’ for Saburo’s use, so it didn’t exist when the first Arasaka tower fell. The relic we see is meant to inject the data on it into a dead corpse so whatever engram is on it can take it over, the shard spider used was completely different as it only soulkilled Johnny and kept his engramatic data. So, basically, two entirely different shards.

Remember choom… don’t fear the reaper.

Aye!!!! Good shit choom! As well that was his fondest as well as worst memory! Im waiting for Orion seeing how I think if you choose the nomad life path you may get a deeper connection with Johnny. Idk I'm playing a new play through seeing I had 2 updates and a shit load of memory used so we shall see choom! But I do like the keen eye to detail I know some people on here think I rant so try not to do it as much but A1! They're supposed to be coming out with blackhand material here soon so can't wait as well as edgerunners! Cyberpunk does not disappoint lol

It's called Cyberpunk 2020 and it already exists.

This whole Angel/Alt story greatly reminds me of Soma and how that ended.

The angel alt story let's you know pretty much that the current version we see of alt is corrupted and the last thing spidermurphys mission was to restore all parts of alt....as well as Bartmoss has his rabbids as well...restore them to their original forms as well as bring the soul killer engram aka Silverhand to his frozen body (source to original host) could be Vs only chance of actual survival....

​@@JohnnySilverwrench I personally don't think V can survive as far as 2077 canon goes. Johnny could definitely be disentangled to be transferred to his frozen body, but (according to Alt's AI version, which granted could have its own reasons to lie to us) V's engram would be attacked by V's body because of how far along the Soulkiller process was by the time we attempted the transfer. Still, the Angel part of Alt's story is def worth a video imo.

@@SofaKingWashed the possibilities are endless with game the reason why I believe the host to original source ending is if you remember in the late 80s early 90s Keanu played in a similar roll called Johnny necromancer definitely worth watching to understand the concept I speak of! Lol and yes the whole blackdog story I find very intriguing so many gaps and unanswered questions 🤘

I think orion might revolve around mr blue eyes aka humans with ai inside of them

Johnny died last year if we go by what happens in the lore & game The bombing of Arasaka HQ & Johnny's death at the hands of Smasher happened in 2023

Some of the best characters have the unfortunate fate of losing their bottom half

really makes you reconsider why he has 2 death scene in cyberpunk 2077...

Yeah definitely agreed choom! When I originally played, I was VERY skeptical of Johnny the majority of the game. I actually think his empathetic side came a little too late into the story. But nonetheless, while some of his goals are admirable, unless you have a 100% friendship he will always attempt to guilt you into targeting Arasaka and saving him rather than prioritizing yourself.

​@LayedBackGamers,yeah, I definitely got to agree. I wish CD projekt Red showed them more empathy epic side to Johnny, earlier in the game.if you mean that your choice Johnny would agree with you more compared to if you made a bad choice what does agree and try everything . I just wish there was no main consequences for the decisions you made in game. I know dlc what's better with that.and I would like that decision making to carry over to the second game for dlc

Lol I always have good time with Silverhand lmfao but that's the point I think cdpr tried to make is that if you don't know the back story of these characters from the ttrpgs and numerous interviews etc that then you won't really know. Yeah it's fun to play without knowing but epic with knowing. Johnny pondsmith made into a really damn deep character and can't wait for them to put blackhand in future instalments. I'm really rooting for Orion hope it's doesn't take forever to make. I heard there gonna switch to unreal? Idk if that true or not ....

Heard it's absolutely true lol so this shouldn't take as long plus they have half the US team and half the Poland team working on it! 🤘

Bug? You are not playing as Silverhand until the end of the game, remember this is V reliving Johnny's memories. Is it also a bug that depending on how V talks to Alt it affects conversations between Johnny and Alt?

Who are the Patriots?

@@WhatIsThatThingDoing Huh? Wym “La Le Lu Le Lo?”

You'll definitely be seeing it once the Edgerunnsrs mission kit for Cyberpunk Red releases! That will have a lot of new info on the entire Maine crew so there's a chance to do a video on the entire crew in one!

I'd argue that Songbird being a fan of his despite being from Brooklyn must mean his reach is still pretty vast. Especially since they pin the entirety of the nukes doing onto Silverhand. The primary reason his music and story isn't as popular anymore is the datakrash and Time of Red. Lots of information lost during that time. Though you'd be correct in saying it wasn't his combat that made him a Legend, it was his message and charisma. A vast difference from Solos like Rogue and Blackhand who were more popular amongst mercs and fixers.

Just to add, the Afterlife has a drink called the "Johnny Silverhand" as well. It's what Claire serves Jackie and V at the beginning of the game.

@@clevergray8754 Your profile picture is giving me bad memories

The only way this could've happened was to a cloned Johnny post Time of Red since his body was retrieved by Samantha directly from the bunker in 2023.

Don't think so. Jackie was heavily shot up. Insides wouldn't work? V was shot in the head and there have been a few survivors of that act in real life

No, Dex would still kill V and Jackie in the no tell motel if that came to be.

No, cause Jackie was bleeding out, which is something the chip wouldn't be able to fix. The chip kept V alive cause it basically rewired his brain and repaired the neurons after he got shot in the head.

@@antthomas7916 The Chip would have Fixed it... Cause of V gets shot in the head... that does mean we bleed or Dex kinda angled that shot so badly we didnt actually die from it in reality. Remember what Vektor Vic says? low kaliber. Now that is interesting infomation we get. So it is either Vs skull kinda bounced the shot. That can happend with a 45caliber round. If you angle the shot the skull can bounce it. Or V did get shot in the head and missing brain pierces... but that does not really make sense... cause we are kinda running and what not around... I do not belive the chip can do that. So my therory on this. The chip did not fix us. Dex angled the shot so badly and we survived. Because logically speaking here. The Chip takes over slowly. But it also damages our brain... So that does mean our brain from dexes shot did not get damaged. Just a light headache. Also it does not make sense that this chip can revive you from death and repair our brain with nanites. So we still have full body function we can talk and fight and what not.. I do not think that is possible to repair tbh. Since the brain is far to complex. What does make sense however is that the chip only stores a person and that person is now trying to take over. That I can kinda see happending but lets be real its a bit of a far stretch. So logically speaking i do not think the chip did anything but upload so to say Jhonnys personality. Also Anders Helmann never ever mentions that we got shot in the head or had brain damage from the bullet wound. Wich is quite interesting so to say.

The entire poem is entirely too long for here but definitely worth looking at it's the constant struggle of what you believe what is right and wrong and the balance of the greater good....

I think he meant it as in “ one of the “good things” in his story as apposed to his life as a whole

@@iXmetalXi yeah ik, just found it funny

And 2008 and it'll happen again.

It’s insane how many Americans don’t know that between 20 and 80% (depending on which source you check. Claims are all over the place) of all US dollars in circulation were printed since 2020. It’s constantly pushed in the background that you could easily live on $15/hr 5 years ago in most cities and now you can barely make it above poverty on $20/hr

They both did vocals for the band at separate points! I bet they each had their songs they felt more closely to and therefore sung.

Game's four years old, man. Any cyberpunk media could have spoilers. I hope you learn to view with discretion next time.

Nuh uh

I'm always beat to my own videos!

@@LayedBackGamers where's raging usually he beats all 🤣

Jackie also has a very childlike foolishness for night city I just see him as a merc who didn’t just do it for money he always mentioned the big leagues like he wanted to be another Morgan blackhand. taking dex’s deal so eagerly because he wanted to get off the random gigs and make a name for himself. Also he took v to his moms house if that ain’t trust idk what is

@@salemfatcat4479 true, true, but also Jackie quickly saw V for what he was: a bad mf’er with potential and next to nothing left to lose. Jackie wanted to “befriend” V in hopes of him getting Jackie to the big leagues. Jackie knew it, Dexter likely knew it too, everyone knew it - Jackie wouldn’t have made it as far as Konpeki Plaza without his secret weapon, V. I couldn’t help but feel used the entire time. I actually liked his character and I don’t mean to take away from his importance at all, I just feel like he’s put up on a pedestal for very flimsy reasons.

@@whyhatestrangers honestly you got me on board I hope your theory is true I love Jackie but this adds so much to think about I wish Jackie’s engram said something spooky related to the chip showing he knew more than he led on to

@@salemfatcat4479 it was only after someone pointed out to me that Jackie was the one that slotted the chip into your brain that I started to doubt the connection V really felt with him. At first, it seemed like I remembered Jackie putting the chip in V’s head as an innocent and necessary act to increase their odds at success - and truly, that was the situation they found themselves in. But after I replayed several times under different life-paths, I started to see Jackie as less and less of a true brother and more of an opportunist who saw V as a stepping stone to becoming a legend. Jackie pretty much knew his likely fate going into this and didn’t care because all he wanted was to be a Night City Legend, but V had further potentials which were ruined by the carelessness and bad luck during the Konpeki Plaza job. By the time we get to Jackie’s death, he’s single handedly damaged the relic, m -edit: someone fell asleep, posted the comment accidentally while asleep, and then after realizing what happened, forgot wtf he was talking about.

Kinda funny tho how all events lines up so perfectly tho makes yah wonder....

Any time is the right time!