Layering Vocals - You're Doing It WRONG!

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Layering vocals is tricky business - here's how to do it right!
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@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын

How do YOU layer your vocal tracks?

@RokDAWG1 Жыл бұрын

The correct answer is always, “DO AS MANY AS IT TAKES! GET IT RIGHT!”

@bohemianhh Жыл бұрын

On a scale of 1-10? Muffaletta. Nah, mine's more like a plain ham and cheese, but after watching this, I think I can incorporate some vocal lettuce, some vocal tomato.. maybe some vocal mustard, might even double the vocal meat with some power-metal vocal prosciutto. I refuse to do vocal mayo, though. Too poppy.

@Mrvegas6666 Жыл бұрын

You displayed my process completely when I record my three vocalists in my project.

@Hetriani Жыл бұрын

Who cares how I USED to do them?...I'm doing it like THIS from now on! Lol🤘🤘

@totalitartombola7415 Жыл бұрын

With the stoner band just a dub, with the metalband, sometimes all-in Blind Guardian. Personal record: 28 of me me ME

@TheSmeltork Жыл бұрын

Lmao. That mic costs as more than my entire studio setup.

@intriguedviewer501 Жыл бұрын

Production, subject matter, personality... Trey is running a clinic on how to make a great KZfaq video with this one.

@bohemianhh Жыл бұрын

What a lot of people don't get is that this has been done almost as long as non-destructive multitracking has existed (at least since the early 70s). It's not a 'fad' or a 'modern' thing. I remember one of Freddie Mercury's studio engineers talking about how amazing Freddie was at perfectly multi-tracking vocals.

@royjohnson3361 Жыл бұрын

Manual doubletracking was invented by Les Paul (I think, citation needed) and was in use in the 1950s. The Beach Boys and the Beatles did it a lot with vocals. Artificial Double Tracking (ADT) was invented specially for the Beatles during the spring of 1966 by Ken Townsend. What I don't get is why don't DAWs have some form of built-in ADT?

@bohemianhh Жыл бұрын

@@royjohnson3361 Thanks, Roy. Great info!

@eduardomelo6046 Жыл бұрын

i dont get how Trey doesnt have millions of subscribers at this point. keep bringing up this top tier content, man

@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын

someday. the cool ones are here now, everyone else will be late to the party

@grs177 Жыл бұрын

But my mom says I’m cool!

@TeaspoonUlysses Жыл бұрын

I'm in the middle of recording a track and now I need to add more...thanks for the tips, guys.

@DrDannyMannGuitar Жыл бұрын

Happy to see that this pretty much mirrors the approach that my bands and I take! Thanks Trey and Alex

@DJKuroh Жыл бұрын

The only thing I hated about my band. It was impossible to get our singers to do overdubs or any kind of layering. Leads, harmony (not even 3 part), done. And we were a Dream POP band. Vocals really matter in pop and should be the star. You can lead a horse to water and all that lol

@ratatatuff Жыл бұрын

But aren't the vocals in dreampop pretty much in the background and supposed to be just a layer of sound?

@DJKuroh Жыл бұрын

@@ratatatuff I'll say indie (dance) pop with a dash of dream pop. Chvrches meets Beach House.

@LintBisquick Жыл бұрын

How does that work? Those layers should be stacked!

@DJKuroh Жыл бұрын

@LintBisquick it works like "damn i can never listen to these songs again because we brought our A-Game, but the vocals sound a little phoned." They sang everything like we did it live. That worked great for road testing songs, but the studio was the time to go wild, and they had zero desire to. It's very frustrating. Who I work with now is the total opposite. He'll give me like 14 vocal tracks lol

@roommother3398 Жыл бұрын

Great content! Nice to see Alex make an appearance you two really work well together. Layer up GongGang!

@ForsellOfficial Жыл бұрын

I'm getting a lot of early Shinedown from the way it sounded with the additional vocals! Sounds great man!

@ShatterScript Жыл бұрын

Something I was wondering about for my own tracks, full of info, thanks for this guys!

@upStomp Жыл бұрын

This reminds me of Jane's Addiction's "Ritual" album. Where Perry's voice was double tracked to increase the chances that one of the takes would be in tune at any given time. Because his lines were so inconsistent, it created a very distinctive effect and became part of the album's charm.

@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын

Definitely created a signature sound for him, Ozzy too

@niteshades_promise Ай бұрын

great use of the wilhelm scream😂 i love that scream. never gets old.🍻

@Thepaulislame Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips Trey and bandmate fella!

@LewisGale Жыл бұрын

Cool vid, would've been nice to hear each layer isolated too especially the harmonies, but learned a lot that I'll be using going forward. Nice one

@aprilkurtz1589 Жыл бұрын

thanks for this, trey. it was cool seeing how you layer harmonies, we did ours almost the same way, from the lead to the harmonies. We double tracked the lead vocal, but not the harmonies. never thought to add a lead vocal an octave down. very helpful tip! great video, trey!

@haniespanieldollis Жыл бұрын

3:37 I love the harmonies during the bridge

@jos25582 8 ай бұрын

I like how you show an example in real time. Sick song btw!

@joshuagodinez5867 Жыл бұрын

Live layering - get the bassist, keyboardist, rhythm guitarist, and if he can handle it, the drummer all singing during the chorus.

@alanerpington5698 Жыл бұрын

Or as we used to call it, backing vocals.

@GuitarTabsDaily Жыл бұрын

Great video dude! It’s all about the layers 😤🙌💪😊

@johnkelley7676 2 ай бұрын

I support your cause. I love this channel and I will be subscribing. Excellent work boys.

@Hetriani Жыл бұрын

This was such an informative and helpful video! Actually watching the process while explaining why, and how made it click for me and I'm sure it will for many others! What a killer tune too! In Virtue!🤘🤘

@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@A.Moortal Жыл бұрын

I’m honestly impressed by how good the single track sounded. But yes great production tips!

@dejanpodmajorski Ай бұрын

This is actually one of my favorite videos on youtube 🔥

@ShawnSharkey4 Жыл бұрын

So much fucking talent, and I watch the contest videos on my way home from work. Keep it up, cheers!!

@FREISTUDIOS Жыл бұрын

Great video and song Trey, thank you!

@nedim_guitar Жыл бұрын

This was really cool!

@urvasbethud8849 Жыл бұрын

Extremely tight singing! I am impressed.

@dadbodmetalgod Жыл бұрын

So good to see you and Alex still making music! While I love the new direction of the channel, I do occasionally miss tag-team of old. Rock on, Dudes 🤘

@mrobsolete530x4 Жыл бұрын

The vocal layering that the singer for The Contortionist does is so crazy and perfect while also being subtle.

@josephharvey1762 Жыл бұрын

How would you describe it? I love, love, love The Contortionist (esp. Clairvoyant)

@ChadBillAnderson Жыл бұрын

Gonna send this video to all of my client bands from now on before they track

@yungvirticus Жыл бұрын

Happy to see the influx of content, sir!

@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын

my content is always in flux. no wait

@maximethetiot2703 2 ай бұрын

Hi 👋🏻 I’m actually working on a cover with a friend, soon, I will record her voice, and I never done it before. This video is very instructive !!! Thx you so much guys !!! 😂👏🏻🔥

@wheelman717 6 ай бұрын

What a strong voice. Awesome

@TROY-ue4vx 6 ай бұрын

i like the song and i'm not normally into this genre, great voice!

@haniespanieldollis Жыл бұрын

8:32 but then how do the live performances go when there are so many less layers? A difficulty many bands have I'm sure

@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын

Well, it's a pretty limited choice - you can either have good backup vocalists, or have backing tracks to fill them in, or go without them entirely. I don't think people should make their decisions in the studio based on what it'll sound like live though, you should just make the best recording you can

@Skeleton_Dork Жыл бұрын

@@treyxaviermusic Every metal boomer would like to know your location

@CreativeMindsAudio Жыл бұрын

nice! been a while since i've seen alex on a channel plus a while since seeing the garage studio here. Great tutorial! literally just talking to someone about how to multi track guitars.

@musicmaestrodj 8 ай бұрын

Awesome video! One thing that would have been nice to include was how you panned the layers as its an important part of the process. You've got a new subscriber now. 😎

@treyxaviermusic 8 ай бұрын

Welcome! All the pairs are panned hard R/L, only the double/octave of the lead is in the center

@akmetalhead95 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! It would be cool to see how many vocal layers are on each part of the song. Since the chorus is the "biggest" part of course, you'd have the most layers there, but how many layers work best in the verses, bridge, etc? That's one thing I'm trying to figure out as I learn how to write songs in my DAW and record my voice.

@myronmosley2167 Жыл бұрын

Use your ears. There’s no magic number for anything in recording, mixing and mastering. If it sounds good, it’s enough. If it doesn’t sound good do more or do something else. Don’t get hung up on how many layers of vocals you need or how many db’s to boost or cut. If it sounds good it doesn’t matter how many or how much you did or didn’t do something.

@user-lr3zs7pq1i Ай бұрын

You are genius, watching u from haiti

@BryanMorrison675 Жыл бұрын

This is useful. Thanks!

@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын

I like being useful!

@JayslowEntertainment Ай бұрын

I have that same mic, and I've struggled over and over trying to get the right sound from it.

@pcLumsy1 Ай бұрын

That's a lot of vocals 👌👏💯

@juniorclaudio7012 Жыл бұрын

Yeah man!!!! For more content like this! ❤❤❤❤❤

@Dylan99781 Жыл бұрын

As a supplement to this video, I really recommend watching Hardcore Music Studio's video titled "Pro Vocal Layering Secrets". It focuses more on where to apply layers in the arrangement, like what was alluded to at the end here, with famous pop songs as examples

@sridharraju7588 Жыл бұрын

This is the video I needed.

@jeremythornton433 10 ай бұрын

Great video! I do have to wonder though, how many tracks of vocals would there be in an average Queen song? Not a Bohemian Rhapsody thing but a regular song. Or a Van Halen song.

@haniespanieldollis Жыл бұрын

Yes, tis a great song!!

@sVieira151 Жыл бұрын

I personally think the ideal number of vocal layers are found on modern Devin Townsend choruses. I mean if you were to expand all of the vocal submix layers into individual recorded tracks. 😂

@Ryan_Messenger Жыл бұрын

cool stuff 👍

@who_is_dis 5 ай бұрын

Bro - you're genuinely a great vocalist

@treyxaviermusic 5 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@lionnonny 5 ай бұрын

I concur. 😊

@SleepyJames Ай бұрын

This song is fire

@haniespanieldollis Жыл бұрын

When is the next single?!?

@micahperrego3334 Жыл бұрын

Perfect

@tjlovelady 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tutorial but the song is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@itsonlyrocknroll12 3 ай бұрын

Umm, how we’re the tracks panned? Did I miss it? Like hardpanned left and right?

@agirlsname7159 Жыл бұрын

I like imagining the gong master reacting to this song in a Treyception. Would he have any advice or just say "It's perfect...you win."

@connerstines1578 Жыл бұрын

Double track vocals have been extremely common since the 60s.

@thebadbandito Жыл бұрын

Great video

@RokDAWG1 Жыл бұрын

My last ep, my producer made me do like a billion takes. I’m glad my voice was strong or I would have lost it.

@maknoxx 5 ай бұрын

did you replace the double with the octave down ?

@treyxaviermusic 5 ай бұрын

In this I did, you can have both if you like

@tophertaylor68 Жыл бұрын

More studio stuff with Brother Alex 👍

@saberreiter8569 Жыл бұрын

stacks stacks stakcs stacks (of layers)

@budgetgitarr5351 Жыл бұрын

7:50 I guess the song is called Cream now

@Kcutthth Жыл бұрын

I’m working on a track and the chorus sounded…flat. Hard to describe. Going to do try this now

@miscalt 4 ай бұрын

I just really need a video that doesnt rely on thousands of dollars in studio equipment for the result - the search continues

@treyxaviermusic 4 ай бұрын

You can do all of these things with whatever equipment you have, none of these techniques are dependent on your gear

@idanshahar Жыл бұрын

Damn tenors Cool video guys!!

@alexnasla Жыл бұрын

Trey is definitely not a tenor lol. Baritone for sure.

@eweesplace 9 күн бұрын

Great info whilst being corporate Dannys

@IndyRockStar Жыл бұрын

Scream! Featuring Trey's Bare Feet.

@Miriamchoi25 3 ай бұрын

sibilance ✨ ✨ 😂😂

@MatthewSwasta Жыл бұрын

Letterman visited Billie Eilish..something like 86 takes spliced together on, whatever tune that was. That blew his mind.

@Dimitar_Tsanev Жыл бұрын

The parts with the most layers and harmonies on them sound a lot like what Jonathan Davis has been doing on the last 4 Korn records...

@christyd_ 8 ай бұрын

What does _left_ or _right_ means when recording doubles?

@treyxaviermusic 8 ай бұрын

That refers to the panning in the stereo field

@adownbeatexegete1549 Жыл бұрын

We're doing EVERYTHING fucking wrong!

@Rafaelinux Жыл бұрын

Scraym!

@TheWelhaven 11 ай бұрын

It’s easy to go overboard with layers and harmonies. It’s like eating a cake, you don’t want it all the time. Listening to an Alice in Chains album makes my ears tired.

@ChernobylAudio666 Жыл бұрын

ALEX!!!!!!!!!! Also hi Trey

@Drewtootrue 5 ай бұрын

🤣🔥

@saltyapostle44 Жыл бұрын

Realize when he was singing it was already heavily compressed. There was no real difference between the quiet parts and the loud parts.

@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's why Alex was there, he applied all the processing so it would sound closer to a finished product

@saltyapostle44 Жыл бұрын

@@treyxaviermusic 👍👍

@nickwilson6888 Жыл бұрын

Fancy microphone!? Just change the speakers in your cabinet!!

@LintBisquick Жыл бұрын

Sounds great, but live you better have some players that can bring some BGV's otherwise you may have to resort to tracks.

@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын

Yeah but I also don't think that should ever stop you from making the best possible recording. You can cross that bridge when you get to it, if your song blows up you can worry about it then.

@LintBisquick Жыл бұрын

@@treyxaviermusic True. Lately I have been struggling with overproduction vs more stripped down stuff. Solid point though and that Chorus has wormed its way into my brain.

@memesouls8653 6 ай бұрын

Laughs in Breaking Benjamin…

@mhoff7722 Жыл бұрын

That mic costs more than my amp rig lol.

@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын

It's spendy, but it's also basically several mics in one. Lewitt also makes a bunch of other awesome mics that are much more affordable

@mhoff7722 Жыл бұрын

@@treyxaviermusic I do like the Lewitt dual capsule for guitar. Haven't tried a vocal mic yet though.

@roberttalbott4268 Жыл бұрын

First comment first like 😂😎

@Dingbotz Жыл бұрын

Each to their own but for someone so musically-educated, it's quite disappointing to see it going to waste on such monotone, melody-deficient type of metal.

@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын

I’ll encourage you to check out the rest of my discography, this one I was going for a simple sing-along chorus

@jme214 Жыл бұрын

What has Yrey become? Yrey is no longer grounded. Yes his mixes sound nice. But who hurt him?

@Lord_Swoledemort Жыл бұрын

You could title this video better. It’s such a quality video but the title is poor.

@dzikoo Жыл бұрын

I prefer one layer to be honest. It sounds more “organic”. Allows you to appreciate more Treys voice.

@JDY517 Жыл бұрын

Sooooo we just need a $3500 mic 🤨

@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын

You can do the same basic idea with whatever mic you've got

@JDY517 Жыл бұрын

@@treyxaviermusic I know brother… just being an ass 🤷🏻‍♂️ and a little jealous of that mic

@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын

it's a damn fine mic

@thejeffrandallproject6470 Жыл бұрын

@@treyxaviermusic so which brand/model mic did you use in your own studio recording vocals for “Scream”?

@takeshikovacs935 Жыл бұрын

Good production tips but…. seems more like an ad for a microphone. Thumbs down on that one.

@ShadeHope1969 Жыл бұрын

First off, My favorite singers are all DEAD, Second,If you cant play your material live without Tracks go lay down somewhere,in my book, YOUR DONE.

@troysmithfr Жыл бұрын

Lmao

@treyxaviermusic Жыл бұрын

sounds like your favorite singers won't be able to play their material live either, but they've already taken your advice and gone to lay down somewhere

@bohemianhh Жыл бұрын

@@treyxaviermusic TEH BROOTALZ!

@MickH60 Жыл бұрын

I'm a boomer and that's the most boomerish thing I've ever read......!!!

@user-yk4gd1fl4z Жыл бұрын

Wut?