Chris shares his method for laying out dovetails to make things easier and more reliable for each set of dovetails. For more great information on joinery techniques, visit www.popwood.com/techniques/joi...
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@DonsWoodies Жыл бұрын
Of all the videos around explaining this concept, this is the clearest and easiest to 'get into my head'. Love your style of teaching, Chris. Thank you! 6 months later, I still come back to this video if I need a refresher course, and recommend this to everyone as the definitive video for explaining dovetail layout.
@jeffmiller38503 жыл бұрын
After watching, I went out to the shop made a small box with this method, it worked brilliantly, and was repeatable on all four corners. It's much easier than figuring out with a calculator or with a ruler skewed on the board for equal divisions. Now if only I could get more masterful at cutting the actual dovetails. Thank you.
@richardlemay67296 жыл бұрын
Just recently considering making dovetail joints. You have provided the best explanation to date from my research. Very professional presentation.
@uriel-heavensguardian8949 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE the way you teach sir!! Have for years!! Thank you for all your Knowledge! Its been GOLD to me!
@BRUCELAN1683 жыл бұрын
This method will be my dovetail laying out guide, all I need is to remember is last minute of video. Thanks!
@ianlloyd10011 ай бұрын
I've watched many, many, videos, but never been confident in the information staying in my head correctly, to try it... I really believe this is the best explanation I've seen..... Thank you...
@PBS-nm1uu2 жыл бұрын
this is a great presentation, keep them coming. thanks, you made it so simple, and i looked at 50 videos before i found yours.
@countrycool6317 жыл бұрын
I am a beginner woodworker. I have been always interested in woodworking. I have looked all over KZfaq for someone to explain and demonstrate going into detail on how to layout the dovetails and pins. Step by step. I have a project I was working on but I had to stop due to I didn't know how to do dovetails but now I'll be able to do complete my project. Thank you so much you are the first one to definitely demonstrate explain about dovetails.
@jeffwilliams93603 жыл бұрын
Thank you I've watched numerous videos and no one has ever explained how to do dovetails as easily as you. I'm loving doing dovetails now. Much appreciated.
@TheGoonkid3 жыл бұрын
Give me more!!! After seeing so many people teach us about dovetails, no one ever told us the magic behind the dividers, I am rushing to buy myself a pair, thanks a lot,
@ErikSnell7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Running over it again with the dividers really drove the point home. Thanks
@stevebulach51987 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris for simplifying something that is sometimes portrayed as being sooo complicated. Love your work :)
@normandsimard67954 жыл бұрын
Wish I would have seen this before. The way you explain makes so much sense. Thank you for making a simple thing , simple.
@LordNemoTGH Жыл бұрын
This is a very well made video for those whom, like myself, are a little simple of mind. Thank you!
@TheDonnaAnn5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris!! I've watched people do this with a quick explanation, but you broke it down so I understand it now!!
@herbsprague44856 жыл бұрын
Great lesson, I struggled with this for a long time. Thanks to you I can finally layout dovetails with confidence.
@earle00246 жыл бұрын
Chris this is the first time dovetail layout has made sense to me, thank you
@johnross2784 жыл бұрын
You are not only our HERO, you are a fantastic teacher! Thank for your exceptions contribution to our craft.
@richardlister57244 жыл бұрын
I did not understand marking out dovetails until I watched this video. Thank you very much Christopher schwarz
@twentyonetwos39677 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully clear explanation. Thank you.
@toopoo6 жыл бұрын
The best dovetail layout guide video I've ever watched. Thank you very much. Greeting from China.
@TheContrarian325 ай бұрын
Christopher taught me this 20 years ago. Still doing it this way,
@blmeflmm667 жыл бұрын
Really cool technique. Makes perfect sense and now we know why they're called "dividers" haha! Good to see that you have several new video appearances posted since last I checked. Always a worthwhile watch. Keep up the great work.
@download775 жыл бұрын
Wow. I am a newbie wannabe and your video was simple yet enlightening. Thank you.
@danielgeng23064 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, been a subscriber on and off for many years, always thought I didn’t have the ability to do hand tool woodworking, but I think I was mistaken and I’m becoming a huge fan of yours !
@skippylippy5474 ай бұрын
Wow! I think I understand this now. I'm going to try this. Thank you Chris. 🥰
@JohnWaclawski3 жыл бұрын
Wow!! You made this so simple to understand and lay out. Thank you very, very much!!!
@guykviat4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, best explanation video I've found !! Clear and easy to follow instructions !
@w4baham7 жыл бұрын
Simple yet quite nice! I think even I can remember this method. Thanks Chris.
@rickjohnson71554 жыл бұрын
Tried your method. Works awesome! Thank you !!
@rick914436 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much(I think this time I got it.) Also noticed the rubber mat normally used for stable boxes and horse vans(comfort for horses.) GREAT idea for all the time spent standing...cheers...rr
@KieuPho5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your very clever technique
@nicksantoyo76857 жыл бұрын
What a great video. Thank you!!!
@colas117 жыл бұрын
Very clear, thank you for sharing!
@Thom41237 жыл бұрын
Awesome information I like using the dividers but still practicing.
@phillix56694 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, my brain is melting in a beautiful way. Thanks
@jasonrobinson95244 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation. Thank you.
@V.Hansen.5 жыл бұрын
Simple and clear. Thanks. I always thought they were supposed to be equal. The first I saw that wasn't I thought was a hideous mistake.
@robertbrunston54065 жыл бұрын
Thank you Christopher.
@738polarbear6 жыл бұрын
Actually a very nice way of marking dovetails..Its quick too and no measuring or calculating .Thank you.
@dlwatib5 жыл бұрын
It's not that hard to calculate. You have n tails and n-1 pins and 2 half pins. Measure the total distance. Decide how big you want your pins and half pins. Subtract 2*half pin width + (n-1)*pin width from the total distance, then what's left over needs to be divided by n to get the width of the tails. If you want your half pins to be equal in width to your pins at the base line, it's even easier. Subtract (n+1)*pin base width from the total distance, then divide by n to get the tail base width. Then lay out the measures at the base line instead of the edge of the board.
@738polarbear3 жыл бұрын
I think that uneven dovetails look better myself. If they are precise you may as well use a jig .If they are a bit uneven it means they were HANDCUT. Pretty nice easy ,memorable way he showed though having said that.This man may not have the years of practical work behind him but he has a wealth of knowledge and is a thorough teacher.
@mouppe7 жыл бұрын
I use the same technique, but I like to have the base of my pins roughly the same size as a suitable chisel to make chopping them out easier. This then determines my spacing.
@738polarbear3 жыл бұрын
Excellent point.
@wheres_bears13782 ай бұрын
Does this guy have his own KZfaq channel? he is a great teacher
@popularwoodworking2 ай бұрын
When Chris left Popular Woodworking, he started the company "Lost Art Press". They don't do a ton of video work, but they do a lot of other things.
@clemmcguinness10876 жыл бұрын
excellent method Thank you
@KingStudebaker5 жыл бұрын
watched a bunch of vids, but I think you explain it hte best
@dondale683 жыл бұрын
Ya know, you broke it down and explained how simple it actually is, I laughed at myself for being so stupid! You made it easy, I'm alot more confidant now!
@ucenicul7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. The orientation of fibres in panel is correct ?
@w4baham5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. What is the source of your "Dovetail Guide" that you used to mark out the dovetails, please? Thanks in advance.
@w4baham7 жыл бұрын
You explained it so simple. Do you have a YT, or other DVD in which you explain, in simple terms, how to layout a compound angle dovetail?
@HarmonicGrunt2 жыл бұрын
Wow! thank You So much.
@mhaz497 жыл бұрын
Exactly the way I was taught.
@ikust0074 жыл бұрын
Damn I love this guy! Long live LAP.
@rollingstone30174 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Really nice traditional work.Might this work for pins first🤔
@derekperkins73433 жыл бұрын
Not brain melting at all. Really clearly explained. Cheers.
@robertbrunston54067 жыл бұрын
Cool! Thank you.
@DVDFHardTarget6 жыл бұрын
Very clear and easy to follow! Is this the same system that Rob Cosman uses? Cheers Chris
@rick914435 жыл бұрын
Got it! left window open one day on my computer...THANK YOU...rr Normandy
@gregl22492 жыл бұрын
where can I buy that guide you are using?
@thomashanson66077 жыл бұрын
I see you have also found the fabulous Pentel Graphgear 1000 pencil. I like the 09 and sand it down to a point when needed. I got the brainfreeze using this technique as illustrated by your cohort, Megan. Took awhile to sink in. I must be a yokel myself cause I like the 14* too.
@walterrider96008 ай бұрын
thank you i finally got it
@uncabro4 жыл бұрын
GREAT VID
@davewirtanen53403 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@rick914435 жыл бұрын
3rd time watching and (before continuing,) I ordered a second compass from Amazon...cheers...rr Normandy, Fra
@738polarbear3 жыл бұрын
They are not a compass . they are DIVIDERS . Dividers have no pencil ,a compass has a pencil or a lead.
@rick914433 жыл бұрын
@@738polarbear Thanks...
@josephkerley3637 жыл бұрын
I watched that and was left with a kind of "huh?" ... But as Christopher said, don't think about it. I later used the technique and it work wonderfully! ... Just do it, don't think about it or over think it.
@RGRGJKK2 жыл бұрын
Pura vida Cris I got it :) I will try do my dovetails
@garykazanjian8246 жыл бұрын
Chris, are you wearing a Speedbird watch from TimeFactors?
@richardlemay67296 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in your handmade bench top vise. Is there a plan available? Tks.
@jeffvanek34042 жыл бұрын
What dovetail marker are you using ?
@frenstcht4 жыл бұрын
That's pretty slick. Not sure why my head should hurt, but it's a good looking method.
@nickdiamond54047 жыл бұрын
I know that's the Sterling tool Saddle Tail, but what slope is that the 1:5?
@brankahikl33145 жыл бұрын
This is awesome I am just not sure I want to spend so much time with making a science about the spacing. After all the irregular tail size makes it more interesting for me
@jeffvanek34042 жыл бұрын
What apron is that ?
@JadanDuffin1275 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! Chris has a wonderful way of teaching! Does anyone know where this video came from? Is it from a training course? Would love to see this whole thing!
@fyvewytches4 жыл бұрын
It's from a full video of him building a traditional English tool chest
@fyvewytches4 жыл бұрын
on www.popularwoodworking.com
@HondoTrailside5 жыл бұрын
His example worked out, but the way a half pin is suppose to look is that it's opening to the top of the (tail) board should be the same as the opening of the other pins. It isn't a half, it is simply missing the flare of the one side of a pin. That tends to look best with highly angled tails. Of course you may have your own rule. But if you do what he said, your half pin is random in size, other than that he said it would be too weak in some cases (and that can be particularly true where you may need to plane the boards down, say as in fitting a drawer). Being too wide is not just a mater of looks, it is also a mater of not over-relying on the glue in the joint. Anyway, the point is that you should go through the process to the point where you find out what the recommended tail/pin size will be, and then work back to the half pin, and be sure you like what you have guestimated, relative to the size of now revealed full pin/tail. If not, adjust the half pin. The adjustment will probably be slight, and it will only affect the pin size by 1/3.5 of the adjusted width of the half pin, which will not be a big deal. However it turns out, I try to avoid it looking like the half pin opening (the gap on the end of his board) is larger than the opening of the other pins. But however you like it, I think it is best to relate the half and full pin sizes before doing the layout. Peters never made an unbalanced set of dovetails in his life, so I would assume he checked back also.
@jorgenunoguerrero4161 Жыл бұрын
MÁSTER thank to you.
@Dunc22222 жыл бұрын
Superb presentation. Like most good communicators, you told us what you were going to say, then you said it, and then you summarized what you just said. Well done, sir. Are there any resources that explain the mathematics behind why this works? Or could you give an explanation? I see the elegance of this approach, but my brain is still trying to wrap itself around the underlying math.
@lynnlard5531 Жыл бұрын
@Duncan (I assume your "brain wrap" is referring to just why the distance the divider point extends beyond the half pin mark happens to work out to be the pin widths. ) I agree, that does get awfully fuzzy. I majored in math, but I'm about 50 or 60 years past being able to put an explanation in mathematical terms. But imagine how that 7th step would work out if we let the pins approach an infinitesimal width.
@Dunc2222 Жыл бұрын
@@lynnlard5531 Thanks for the response. I’m cheered that I’m not alone in feeling that sense of fuzziness regarding an explanation. Like you, I kind of get it, but I’m not able to explain so mathematically. Would welcome somebody doing so.
@lynnlard5531 Жыл бұрын
@@Dunc2222 OK Duncan, I'm back. As I lay in bed last night waiting for sleep, I realized the conceptual solution is in the palm of our hand so to speak. When we look at our hand we see five fingers (digits actually) but only 4 spaces between them. It's the same with this dovetail issue. The space being marked off begins AND ends with a tail, i.e. there's one less pin. We can disregard the half-pins on each side. We're only concerned with spacing out (equally) 7 tails separated by 6 pins, each of yet to be determined width individually but jointly equal to the caliper width, over the width of the board BETWEEN the two half-pins . To represent it mathematically: Let's call that width between the half pins W. T will be our ultimate tail width and P will be the ultimate pin width. So T + P will be the distance between the caliper tips which we'll call C. So, as we step off 7 times (from right to left, starting at the inside edge of the right half-pin), that 7th step takes us an excessive distance by the amount of P (since we're going to end with that last (LH) tail.) So... W = 7C -P (...recall, the last P is excessive). Manipulating for P, we get P = 7C - W Now I just chose to use 7, rather than some undefined number n, to match Mr. Schwartz' specific example here.
@Dunc2222 Жыл бұрын
@@lynnlard5531 Hi Lynn, that is some impressively creative math you’ve done. Once again, we find that much of our best thinking is done either in the shower or in bed! Thanks, but I’m still not sure this makes full sense to me. Let’s say the calipers are set perfectly so that their last step ends right on the half-pin (ie, that 7C=W). In this case, by your formula of W=7C-P, P would equal zero, right? But we know that can’t be the case, or you could have no space for a pin. Am I missing something here? I suspect I would need to experiment with this physically, in order to help figure out and test a formula. I apologize for my delayed reply; I had missed this earlier. Thanks.
@lynnlard5531 Жыл бұрын
@@Dunc2222 Hi again. I had to re-read and reflect on this a bit, as I'd sort of forgotten my thinking back when I responded previously.. (The ol' gray matter ain't what it ust'a be!) But no, or maybe yes, I think you are missing the obvious ...I know that feeling well. Remember, we are just trying out various spacings to arrive at something we like. Per your sceniario, we will have selected a caliper setting (which, remember encompasses a tail + pin ...that's by definition) which will yield a pin width of zero. This is a trial and error ("best fit") endeavor. So your scenario would tell us "hey, we need to make an adjustment! ...or else live with infinitesimal or smaller (lol) pins."
@stevencampbell65326 жыл бұрын
I like the Sinn
@jwydubak96735 жыл бұрын
What if, I want to lay out dados for shelves of specific thickness? Is it going to be a trial and error process until the remainder after the last step is exactly the thickness of a shelf?
@ikust0075 жыл бұрын
Would like an answer to...
@HondoTrailside5 жыл бұрын
I usually do shelves on progressively wider spacing, unless they are adjustable. But you could use the method he showed here if you wanted to. Rather than having the half pins as the starting point you could use the top and bottom panel. Then when you do the layout you would end up with two ticks, which would be the top and bottom of you shelves. You could adjust as you suggest, or you could simply find a center, and mark half a shelf lower.
@MegaRiffraff2 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@Kapt69117 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing! May i ask what shop apron that is you are wearing??
@popularwoodworking7 жыл бұрын
It is from Artifact Bags: artifactbags.com/collections/aprons/products/artisan-apron-w-leather-straps (A similar - and similarly nice - one is available from Texas Heritage: www.txheritage.net/classic-shop-aprons)
@bmr8672 Жыл бұрын
20th century. Wasn't that just a few days ago?
@GNU_Linux_for_good8 ай бұрын
03:53 _gently.._ like the Pink Panther
@carolfaulkner3986 жыл бұрын
Frame
@SCWD_US7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. But it would have been nice to show how or draw out the other dove tails and how they intersect on the other board as well.
@rick914435 жыл бұрын
dividers,...compas is French
@shantayprueeissen89143 жыл бұрын
Woodprix has a lot of designs to choose from.
@cheesegrater20187 жыл бұрын
euuughghguhghehehgu .. the number one question ..
@gizanked7 жыл бұрын
Cheesegrater aww I think they edited off the beginning.
@cheesegrater20187 жыл бұрын
They did indeed! .. it was very funny though
@popularwoodworking7 жыл бұрын
When I asked our video producer about the noise, he said it was a standard "Schwarz" sound.