How to Cut Dovetails by Hand

How to Cut Dovetails by Hand - Updated (2022)

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How to Cut Dovetails by Hand - Updated (2022). In this video Rob Cosman shows you two game changing updates he has made to his hand cut dovetails since releasing his 2020 video
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@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Check out Rob's Hand Cut Dovetail Playlist here:kzfaq.info/sun/PLqUOljnY0d9e0pMDPQ4B-pDO36Ad_CysT

@chrisorcutt7619 Жыл бұрын

Rob is it ok to restore an older saw for sawing dovetails

@colinchesbrough5772 4 күн бұрын

I've created some of my finest work in the last few years because of your tutelage, especially your drawer making series during the pandemic. Thank you, Rob. Your teaching is invaluable

@Haydt456 6 ай бұрын

I love that you’re always iterating on methods. As woodworkers our enemy should be “I’ve always done it this way”

@sfguy7943 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great video Rob. I have watched all of your videos and have become proficient at cutting dovetails with your guidance. I made my own offset block from a piece of hard maple, and had the size dialed in after a couple of tests. I had a difficult time getting consistent results using a Japanese saw, but then I bought your dovetail saw and the difference was night and day. So much easier to get clean, straight cuts. I think it’s awesome that you have built a profitable business doing what you love while helping so many of us, in particular the veterans in the Purple Heart project. All the best to you and your family.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Yes I have been lucky but it was 15 years of hard work before things took off. Send us a pic of your dovetails

@MichaelEGordon Жыл бұрын

Hey Rob, Michael from Toronto, we met at the woodworking show here in 2020 right before covid. Glad to see you're using the tape method for registering the tail board onto the pinboard!

@dirkroggeveen5764 10 ай бұрын

Rob didn't notice, but I did, smart thinking Michael, thanks.

@lor191ric Жыл бұрын

Thanks Rob I used your system back when I cut my first half blind and through dovetail and was amazed at the result and couldn't wait to show someone. After hearing your 70/30 comment and given the tools I have to work with, not being in a position to afford yours I'm even more proud of myself. Thanks again

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Great Job. Send us some pics

@davidpisarski5620 Жыл бұрын

Using your techniques have elevated my dove tail work. I now use then on all my drawers and boxes! it is amazing how much more precise my projects are now. Thanks for the excellent training.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Great to hear. Please submit some pics to our customer gallery

@kentboys5017 Жыл бұрын

Great video as always. Updating and improving your technique is what makes you such a great teacher. You are always willing to change if it is the best technique. The result as you say is all that matters. Thanks for sharing. Take care.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting

@thewoodlesworkshop.157 Жыл бұрын

Dear Rob. How many times I will watch how you make a dovetail connection - so many times I will be surprised ... :) Thank you very much!

@alanmckeown6462 Жыл бұрын

Very well done Rob. Amazing how dovetailing has become easier with your techniques and tools

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Glad they are helpful

@patmason7276 Жыл бұрын

Yea having to learn the methods . Just getting into more advanced wood working since retirement. Great video!!!

@nmfam 10 ай бұрын

I comment bc i want the algorithms to love you. Salute to you and continued success

@matthewroszkowski4674 Жыл бұрын

Bravo on the technique and Bravo for giving Shawn a royalty!

@FUNKINETIK 2 ай бұрын

Discovered you after watching someone on TikTok making a video about cutting a dovetail joint to beat your time to make one. Because they had ‘bigged them self up’ so much about completing the task in under 3 minutes I felt it my duty (as a carpenter/joiner) to contact you to say I’m convinced that they had misled the viewers. I won’t go into detail here as to my reasons why I came to the conclusion that they had cheated. The video is edited, I have requested that they show the unedited version. Anyway nice to see your work. My school woodwork teacher showed the class one of his ‘party tricks’ of cutting a twin dovetail in under 2 minutes in the first lesson, this was 45+ years ago : )

@fbiiburton Жыл бұрын

Wowzer what a fantastic channel. Love you us guys your bloody talented

@laurencelance586 Жыл бұрын

About two months ago I taught this exact method to two complete novices. One, a very bright software engineer, chose to ignore the technique and had a very poor result and an only partially finished joint. Her partner, a complete novice to hand tools, finished a very resectable dovetail. The bottom line? This works!!

@arlie505 5 ай бұрын

innovation and creativity is the lifeblood of the pursuit of perfection !

@cnew4682 Жыл бұрын

From Silverton, Oregon. I big THANK YOU Rob.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching

@frankschlehofer6517 3 ай бұрын

Such confidence. Unless Rob cut it out, he didn’t even do a dry fit but went straight to glue.

@woodturningguru8857 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the online lesson I have your dove tail saw and 51/2 plane to my arsenal. And so glad to have them you and your family stays safe and take care all the best from Liverpool. Y.N.W.A. Paul.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Thanks for supporting us. Stay safe

@n8sot Жыл бұрын

Wow!!!!! Awesome!!!!!! I wish I could be half this good!!!!! Thanks for all you do Rob!!!! Keep me striving for better!!!!

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Keep practicing and you will be

@n8sot Жыл бұрын

@@RobCosmanWoodworking Thanks Rob!!!!!

@davidcampbell2845 Жыл бұрын

Superb demonstration. Thanks!

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting

@rabbitholejunkies Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this! I have been trying to acquire a new skew plane for some time now and the price kept from getting one. I have an old Stanley 78 but it isn't the same. The tape trick will do it for sure. I have a mill so I think I can make that block too, seems way easier than using the marking gauge. I struggled to line things up with that method. You are a great teacher.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

The tape method works great, no need for a skew block

@1deerndingo Жыл бұрын

I've followed your advice and it works well. I've added to it by placing a mirror on the other side of the job so I can easily see where the saw cut finishes on the far side.

@johnchristensen8537 Жыл бұрын

That is an awesome idea👍

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Great idea

@ronhau1542 Жыл бұрын

I would give my right arm if I could take one of your classes!

@jaschatz1 Жыл бұрын

great tape technique! Using cosman shim with his saw tooth marking knife and a Lie Nielson (.026 kerf) dovetail saw, got good results putting one layer of blue painters tape on 26 thousandth side of shim

@1striperon Жыл бұрын

Wow! Just wow!

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Wow back at you!!!!

@garyblake3130 Жыл бұрын

Super dovetails Rob, I like that you keep the waste attached to the tails whilst marking out, I have never understood why people remove that part and then mark for the pins.I generally use my vintage Roberts & Lee dovetail saw to cut mine, I think if I was 20 years younger (if only) I would definitely have purchased one of yours as they look great.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Our saws make you feel 20 years younger !!!!!

@couz10 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Rob!

@dave_ecclectic 4 ай бұрын

While rewatching your 2020 instruction vid I was thinking of using double faced tape with your 6" ruler method (that eliminates the need for a skew plane) I think this may still be a "better" method than the multiple layers of tape. You can stick it on using the board as a register. Or make a gauge that is the thickness of your wood with a little step or ledge for a hook. I also saw a possible improvement for your spatula. I'm going to have my brother 3d print me a hollow spatula with a bottle screw top so the spatula (with your small or smaller bottle attached) can be self-applying. In reality I see a short hollow spatula replacing the normal nozzle on a small bottle. I look forward to your 2024 improvements. 😀

@jaschatz1 Жыл бұрын

Is it better to set offset to thickness of dovetail saw or your saw tooth marking knife. I am using the Lie Nielsen saw with your marking knife? Thanks

@ndothan Жыл бұрын

I really need to get one of the offsets. Thats probably one of the best ideas I've seen

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

They are great

@mikebruins466 Жыл бұрын

Great video as always. Can you offer any pointers/comments on your coping saw technique to remove the waste? I have tried se real saws and find the very difficult to control. Can't seem to match your "flick o the wrist" that you do so smoothly.

@VertexCarver Жыл бұрын

I encountered what's apparently a very old way to align tail to the pinboards. In Aldern A. watson illustration they used to clamp the pin-board together with a backing board in the vise. You could keep the backboard face low & ever so slightly offset as to make the tails stick out a little. Then mark the pins with your marking knife. After watching Cosman's version It struck me as very similar. ^^

@AP12248 Жыл бұрын

You introduced the tape trick on your favorite gadgets for 2021. You gave credit to Mr.Anthony. Nice trick!

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the assist. I knew somebody would remember

@roman_le Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I will definitely try to make a similar shim, but the wood one.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Let me know how it turns out

@roman_le Жыл бұрын

@@RobCosmanWoodworking Made it from the white maple. Results are not impressive, probably I have to practice more. Also, my boards is quite thin - only 9 mm, so it is less tolerant to discrepancy...

@raymondvillain 24 күн бұрын

When you cleaned up the dovetails with a chisel, how was it (the chisel) sharpened? It appeared to me to be a mortise chisel, but was it sharpened at 20 degrees, 25 degrees, ? Thanks for the video!

@MegaDanaden Жыл бұрын

Keep learning from You from the otherside of the world,, bravo Sirr... Regards!!!

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

What part of the world?

@MegaDanaden Жыл бұрын

@@RobCosmanWoodworking I 'm from Indonesia Sir,, not much western hand tool here, i tried to mix with japanese tools for my litte workshop here,

@Ammed_KN6STX Жыл бұрын

Never gets old watching Rob cut a dovetail joint. I hate when Rob cuts the video and say watch his other videos, it scares the crap out of me!🤣

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Dont be scared!!

@ironmantooltime 9 ай бұрын

Beautiful 👌

@scottnolte7077 Жыл бұрын

Hi Rob, Just found and subscribed to you channel, fantastic and thank you. i am not able to afford your dovetail saw but was in hopes that you could recommend a saw that would give me a quality cut at a more moderate cost. Thank you kindly. Scott

@J.A.Smith2397 Жыл бұрын

Watching again

@BarryinFredonia Ай бұрын

Hello. Great videos. Using a LN with its .026 kerf I know I can buy and use the RC Dovetail knife with .025 kerf (I’m on the notice list for when back in stock). But to lessen the pin spacing using the shim - which only goes to .026 - what would I or any Lie-Nielsen saw user do to get to .027? Thank you.

@user-mg7yd9wk8r 11 ай бұрын

What hand tools do I need to start dovetail boxes??

@z4zuse Жыл бұрын

4:50 you could use that to determine your actual kerf, including the saw set

@og6937 Жыл бұрын

This is a fantastic variation! Can you tell me where I can buy the little cube. Or, what I have to look for?

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

The Shawn shim, named after the inventor, combat wounded Veteran Shawn McDermot. On our site, robCosman.com

@wjjpearson Жыл бұрын

I have your dovetail saw but if you can persuade classic hand tools to stock your Shawn shim I’d be pleased to buy one! Looks like it works a treat.

@canuslupis3343 Жыл бұрын

They already stock it

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Check again, they carry the Shawn Shim

@nathansilverburg3279 Жыл бұрын

I noticed you were using a different plane iron than normal? Is this a new company you are working with? Or perhaps a future partnership? Thanks again for all you do for woodworkers and veterans

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

we are testing a new blade to see if we like it

@dale1956ties Жыл бұрын

I may be mistaken but I think you mentioned the person who came up with the automotive tape idea by name in a previous video. Did you try going back to approximately where in time you started using it and see if it's not in a video from that time frame?

@bigkiv47 Жыл бұрын

He is an Aussie but his name escapes me.

@bigkiv47 Жыл бұрын

Derek Cohen, Aussie of course lol, is the mans name that came up with the tape for marking the tail depth to the pin board rather than the skew block plane. I first saw his idea on a chat room blog a few years back. I use it and it is a easy and repeatable way to do the job.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Thanks for reminding me. I will write it down now

@ralphpezda6523 Жыл бұрын

Mr. Cosman, I have some questions: 1. what is the skew angle (not the grind angle) on the IBC skew chisels you list? 2. What are the grinding specs/tolerances on the IBC bench chisels you list? Are they with .001+ plus/minus or 0005 plus /minus, etc? 3. Do the chisels need any work right out of the box? I saw some Sorby's recently still in the packaging that had very roughly ground edge lines. The need a regrind. By hand on a 220 grit stone would take at least a few hours, maybe more. I expect to do a final light hone or strop. Thanks in advance for your response.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Ralph….we don’t have any “IBC skew chisel”, are you referring to our half-blind chisels? What specifically do you mean by “grinding tolerances”? If you are referring to our prep service and how close to 90 degrees we get the sides, you will find all of that explained in the “full description” tab of the plane you are looking at

@ralphpezda6523 Жыл бұрын

@@RobCosmanWoodworking Thanks. I found it. By skew chisels I meant those with a one side angled cutting end like the Lie-Nielsen skew plane blade. I found those chisels in pairs (right skew / left skew) at IBC and confused them with your site. Sorry about that. Your half blind dovetail chisels appear to be an improvement--- one tool, both angles. Whenever I find a specialty tool the first things I think of are what else could it be used for and what are its' limits.

@yasarmevlutoglu776 Жыл бұрын

Роб Косман , Друг ласточек 👍👍👍🇹🇷

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

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@lonnyharris6464 Жыл бұрын

What plainer are you using?

@binglebongle8601 Ай бұрын

Wood river 5 1/2

@davidmaltby2065 10 ай бұрын

Hi Rob, I live in Australia. Are we able to buy tools in Australia? If yes, can you share your distributor please

@RobCosmanWoodworking 10 ай бұрын

Direct sales only. No distributors down under. About 10% of our total worldwide sales go to Aussie land!

@davidmaltby2065 10 ай бұрын

@@RobCosmanWoodworking thanks for the reply. How do you calculate the freight cost? I assume I order from your website?

@J.A.Smith2397 Жыл бұрын

I said that before you even mentioned the shim, just after you referenced your past video,I hope one of those different widths fit lie Nielsen 😂😂😂

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

yes they do

@dale1956ties Жыл бұрын

I think you should grow out the goatee too. We'll call it the Charlesworth groomer trick. 🙂

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Excellent idea

@triangle379 10 ай бұрын

do you ship to india?

@RobCosmanWoodworking 10 ай бұрын

We do.

@TomTrees Жыл бұрын

That would be Derek who suggested so.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the assist

@fa256b7 Жыл бұрын

👍👍👍👍

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

👍

@danthechippie4439 Жыл бұрын

Saw blade

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Yup ...should have said "Saw plate"

@user-dy4xh8rf6w Жыл бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

👍

@parall4x 11 ай бұрын

what does “2 thou set per side” mean”? if your blade is .020” why .024”

@RobCosmanWoodworking 11 ай бұрын

The teeth are bent, in alternating directions, by .002” away from the blade. This creates the saws’ “set” which in turn creates the Kerf in the board. Without set you would only be creating a Kerf the same width as the blade, .020” in this case, and that would result in binding in the Kerf.

@en510 Жыл бұрын

How are you liking having a stainless steel blade in your plane?

@DanielGarciaAu Жыл бұрын

Looks easy. All you need to do is cut straight 😂

@PresterAdams Жыл бұрын

your measurements of pins and tails is kind of random. in germany cabinet makers learn a specific ratio to use, since in the beginning this connection was actually not used for aesthetics but robustness. looks kind of silly to me with the tiny pins

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

As I teach, with today’s modern glues the glue is stronger than the wood so the mechanical advantage of the joint really no longer is used. At that point the size of the pins is mostly about looks. I prefer pins less than 3/16 of an inch as a router can cut that small and I want a pin that clearly could only have been done my hand

@What_Other_Hobbies Жыл бұрын

Mr Cosman, I think there is an easier way to use your shim. Always leave the big end on top, and place it to either side of the board, but always cut bwteen the shim and tail. There way, there is no need to remember left or right shift. The boards need to be the same width.

@RobCosmanWoodworking Жыл бұрын

Any width variation would be bad, hence why I always using the same side.