So true. I told people Privatisation was bad and was asked if I preferred Communism, like they are the only options

Well I didn't but I get your point. You've always been more sensible. Well, until that Hate Speech law thing. That was mad.

Exactly.

This

seriously thinking about moving to Scotland

for falling for the lies?

Hahaaa conservatives

@@guardian100 Sir, the figures are publicly available on the Electoral Commission website. Everywhere in Devon voted for Brexit, apart from Exeter.

Here in Cornwall, the local electorate are staunch tory voters even now after 14 years of corruption! The fishing and farming communities are still voting for their own destruction.

​@@guardian100 mate, you are blind or you do not have a clue about what you are talking about, either way you should reserve yourself from comments in this issue untill you educate yourself with...facts.

Hopefully she will land something better

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@@bilpat5123 I am sure she will and be better off for it.

She was boring.

​@@Dmanz67you must be Dman of comedy 😂

It is their language.

Look up the largest mass poisoning incident in British history with Camelford and tell me that privatisation is to blame.

@@hc2155 are you a professional tory rimmer or just an intern?

Nothing to do with Brexit More than 80% of the world’s sewage is discharged into the environment untreated.

You'd think more people would have heard of the old adage "give him an inch and he'll take a mile

So how did Camelford pollution happen and get covered up under state ownership then?

@@hc2155 are you trying to compare a one off accident to systematic pollution to enhance corporate profits? Yes, it shouldn't have been covered up but that's a whole different thing to a government allowing continual pollution and not making the water companies pay to sort it out.....while also gutting the EPA who should be prosecuting these companies

@@diceman199 Lol you think that sewage treatment was better in the old days before South West Water? The state of rivers, seas and other waterways was far worse before privatisation. They used to take untreated sewage out in a barge about a mile out to sea and then just dump it there. Every single water provider whether for profit or nationalised or private has significant issues with storm overflows.

@@hc2155 except the private ones have WAY more issues. The nationalised ones do 10 x more maintenance in terms of replacing pipes, hence reducing water loss and they also build more storage.....where private water companies have built exactly ZERO more storage. Odd how since we left the EU, despite promises that environmental regulations would be maintained, pollution incidents have gone up and the EPA have had funding gutted so they don't have the resources to police it.

It is for private individuals but not for companies or they just get token slap on wrist with fines that mean nothing much. Who is paying for fines? I hope it shareholders not public. But first things first giving dividends to shareholders improve, maintain infrastructure wasn’t that their remit when stocks floated for the Water Board? I recall them saying water and infrastructure would be brilliant because it private 😂

The British don't fight for themselves, everyone who would have done fled to America 300 years ago haha

Biological warfare against a civilian population perhaps? I'm at a loss how else you could use existing laws to hold them responsible, for the very reasons you've given.

bang on...the aim of water companies is to make money...not provide clean tap water....

i think poisoning people could be classed as criminal negligence.

Regulations aren't being enforced. Very little water quality monitoring is being done now

@@davidwarburton-burley9967 look up Cathryn Ross. Ran ofwat (the water regulator thought all this) it’s now working for Thames water. Wonder why they gave her a job

And in the interests of itself. Privatisation = Hello to greed and goodbye to service.

Here here - as one random protester said on tv during her funeral “she turned Britain into a grocery shop”

We can't afford to. The money has gone abroad.

Frontier Justice it is, then.

Lol New Labour privatised just as much as the Tories ever did

​@@hc2155bullshit!!! There was nothing left to privatised 😮

@@kendiamond8722 No it's not lol New Labour privatised the NHS with Public Finance Initiatives far more than any government has before or since. The debts that many hospitals have are still largely due to this.

From what I understand that with the way the government sets up the contracts if they take it over they’ll have to pay the debts too. And you know what that’ll mean

More backhanders 😢

Yes agreed. Need to cease the all or nothing type of thinking which can occur. Yes there's some things that the market does best, but some things should be ring fenced because they're necessary, as you mention. Obviously any vaguely left learning folk want this, but shouldn't Government control of strategic things like power and water also appeal to the vaguely patriotic or even full blown "little Englander" type too? It's as if they don't have the UK's interests or people at heart from any political perspective, and are just in it for the money, but surely that's not the case...

absolutely bang on...

I know. It's only a monopoly with no competition and nowhere for customers to go. And pitiful regulation. And a perfectly OK infrastructure to run down before we get out of Dodge. Result!

But, but, but ... the MARKET... the PRIVATE SECTOR... they will provide.

​@@Nice0n3the magic of the market place.🦄🦄🦄

That would work if done all over the country but if you do it alone they just cut off your water supply

@@Matt.Hurley They can't do that by law.

Well start up a protest page online .take it to the shareholders . No bonuses for the next 5,year or we all stop paying bills.take the fight to them .

I think that’s victim blaming. When 70% of the older generations rely on newspapers and you allow a corrupt Australian to buy all the news papers and lie to them the responsibility falls more at the liars door and the regulators door than the door of the duped

Brexit 😂

Even the USA wouldn't do it

Privatised polluted water 😂

yeah, but please think this through to its conclusion: 1: We live in a democracy and that's not going to change, people vote to change what they don't like. 2: WE privatized the water/rail/energy and it is run for profit for shareholders rather than for purpose. 3: because profit is ultimate, maintenance and upgrades will always be negated. 4: Business becomes unsustainable and a burden on the shareholder 5: Water is nationalized and the previous shareholders haven't had to pay a penny, they only ever got profits. 6: The tax payer pays for maintenance and upgrades due to years of negligence. 7: The cost goes up due to this endeavor 8: People get upset ... ... ... 1: We live in a democracy and that's not going to change, people vote to change what they don't like. 2: WE privatized the water/rail/energy and it is run for profit for shareholders rather than for purpose. 3: because profit is ultimate, maintenance and upgrades will always be negated. 4: Business becomes unsustainable and a burden on the shareholder 5: Water is nationalized and the previous shareholders haven't had to pay a penny, they only ever got profits. 6: The tax payer pays for maintenance and upgrades due to years of negligence. 7: The cost goes up due to this endeavor 8: People get upset ... ... ... 1: We live in a democracy and that's not going to change, people vote to change what they don't like. 2: WE privatized the water/rail/energy and it is run for profit for shareholders rather than for purpose. 3: because profit is ultimate, maintenance and upgrades will always be negated. 4: Business becomes unsustainable and a burden on the shareholder 5: Water is nationalized and the previous shareholders haven't had to pay a penny, they only ever got profits. 6: The tax payer pays for maintenance and upgrades due to years of negligence. 7: The cost goes up due to this endeavor 8: People get upset ... ... ... 1: We live in a democracy and that's not going to change, people vote to change what they don't like. 2: WE privatized the water/rail/energy and it is run for profit for shareholders rather than for purpose. 3: because profit is ultimate, maintenance and upgrades will always be negated. 4: Business becomes unsustainable and a burden on the shareholder 5: Water is nationalized and the previous shareholders haven't had to pay a penny, they only ever got profits. 6: The tax payer pays for maintenance and upgrades due to years of negligence. 7: The cost goes up due to this endeavor 8: People get upset

Take back control. Heard that somewhere before...

@@fergusdenoon1255 So your conclusion is to continue to pay over our money & not get the services back in return, throwing our money away or rather donating it t to greedy individuals who are taking us all for a ride. Personally I'd rather cut our loss4s & take all our public services back into public ownership.

@@user-ol6rd7pl5t is it? no, that's your conclusion. my conclusion is.... renationalizing stuff, is EXACTLY what private companies want us to do.

@@fergusdenoon1255 I'm guessing you're either a shareholder or just a glutton fir punishment who likes giving their money away the greedy.

No it's the immigrants

@@chrisspencer6502 No it's the disabled

​@@juergenweidner1no it's royal family

@@chrisspencer6502 which “immigrants” are running the water companies then?!

It's d whole lot of ye constant whinging at each other that's what d establishment wants 😂

I've just found out that some bottled water companies in France that market their water as "Sourced from natural mountain springs mineral water" will have to change their labelling since they are treating the water before bottling as it does not meet water safety standards and after treatment is no different to tap water.

I think the problem stems from needing evidence of it happening while it's happening. This would require water companies to report the dumping when they're doing it, not several hours after they've finished doing it. Actually come to think of it, they probably report it several hours BEFORE they do it, just to make sure the right people are definitely looking the wrong way. Imagine if people found out that you found out there was wrong doing? You'd HAVE to do something then.

OMG this sounds awful

Sounds like you are on borehole water not mains

That is a contradictory comment.

@@rayglenister9799 Lol yes, I suppose you're right.

Surely as a private company they must be held accountable 😮

It's called privatisation.

@@Terry-uo8gs illegal privatisation. Most PLCs need to make a profit before they are allowed to pay a dividend. Maggie Thatcher's tories modified the rules for privatised utilities!

@@michaelmccarthy9411 your spot on by 👍

They just say it would've been worse under Corbyn 😂

@@simonfive713 Along with "LaBoUr WoUld HavE BeEn WorSe!" and something about Tony Blair

@@BadgerBoy59 Who, strangely enough, didn't take any of our essential services back into public ownership, but did allow Murdoch to become godfather of one of his children. Labour through and through that fella.

@@lovetrainsme7970 but did preside over the lowest NHS waiting lists, the longest period of low inflation ever etc etc.

​@@BadgerBoy59Blair was a neo lib just like Maggie Thatcher.

tomatoes growing on the beaches of Kent according to The Sun 08/05/24

@@SimonSmith-yd6tt Let them eat ketchup?

@@jimb9063 a "sauce" of pride to the Brexiteers

@@SimonSmith-yd6tt Probably best to close the food banks, they won't be needed now.

So more sewage in the water and gas/electric bills increase or you pay for bottled water the only people losing are yet again consumers.

How would you propose they do that? If a law set by the government was broken why wouldnt the enforcement teams prosecute them?

The Scottish don't take any 💩 🤣🤣🤣

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Feathering his own nest

They can use it as fertiliser 😅

No we are safe in Ireland different currents Scotland might get it