When you don’t know things, that does NOT protect you, it actually makes you more vulnerable to predators!

I wasn't taught about my period and I got it at 11 while at a sleepover, and she was younger than me. We both had no idea. I started crying and she was crying because we thought I was dying. So she had to call her mum down and she hugged me and said okay I'm gonna bring you home, you're not dying, you just need to talk to your mum. Not teaching periods till 12 is absolutely ridiculous

My 5 year old knows what periods are like, a pad, a tampon and that she will have one. I’ve even explained more or less the biological what/why. Not a problem. Periods are not sexual. 💁🏼‍♀️

The idea of not talking to girls about menstruation is mind boggling. My mom started her period when she was eight, right at the end of November. She cried to herself at night, praying to God that she would at least survive until Christmas so she didn't ruin it for her family. She thought she was going to die, and kept it to herself. I started my period at 10. Had my mom not had that experience, I likely would have gone the same route and assumed I was going to die. But because that affected her so much, she made sure to talk to me about it starting when I was seven. That shit sticks with her, and she has drilled it into my siblings that we need to talk about this stuff. If anything, we need to start talking to girls at a YOUNGER age, not older. I don't think my mom's experience was a unique one. I'm sure it has happened to so many girls because of how shitty our education is about this stuff here in Utah. I'm sure it's just as bad in other places, but I can only speak for mine here.

im a queer student at suu and this week has been insane. i cant imagine why they chose jeffrey holland as the speaker, especially as our q center (center for queer students) just opened.

The not talking about menstruation thing really bothers me. I have endometriosis, and ever since my first period I have been in extreme, excruciating pain. Bleeding cups of blood. And I thought it was normal because nobody told me. Because there's such a taboo.

Let's not forget Nelson's conference talk in 1995(?) where, over the pulpit, he clarified that our requirement to have love for all men shouldn't be confused with interracial marriage. Never apologized for it. Was on institute books till like 2013. Think it's still in some manuals, and is still the churches official stance on the "issue" of interracial marriage. Very Ghandi-King-Mandela-esque.

The Nelson Mandela Peace Prize being awarded to Russell Nelson reminds me of on Parks and Rec when the Indiana Organization for Women names Ron Swanson “Woman of the Year.” 😂

As a recent graduate from SUU, I can affirm that the Holland debacle is comfortably in line with SUU's culture of moronic administrative decisions. It's actually a pretty good school though, aside from wanting to be diet BYU.

Mark Twain, an absolute arsonist when it comes to pop culture burns and roasts

Thanks y'all from a SUU student who was on the panel last night on mormon stories!

Wow. The menstruation talk would have been about 2 years too late for me at that point. But that's right in line with wanting ultimate control over bodies they deem future property and calling it "safety".

Maybe the students can all walk in AFTER JRH speaks. That way, nobody is yelling or jeering, but they do send the message that they are not here for JRH🤡

That brilliant journalist interviewing Bethany Mandel is Briahna Joy Gray and she has a great podcast called Bad Faith which I highly recommend.

30:00 ish is so accurate. If you create an institution where sexual expression is bad and forbidden, you won't get less horny people, you'll get very horny people with weird kinks becuase they're trying to condition themselves not to be horny with certain stuff and instead that stuff just gets turned horny instead.

I grew up with Byron Wiscombe as a counselor in my bishopric and he did my first temple recommend interview. I remember feeling guilty for years because I lied about whether I was keeping the law of chastity. I don’t care anymore about that but I definitely wouldn’t feel guilty anymore if I did care after finding out about everything he’s done. It is crazy to find out that someone that everyone in my area looked up to as a spiritual leader could have been doing such a horrible thing. Btw he was serving in the bishopric during everything he was doing.

Commenting before finishing the video, so maybe you mention this, but: Dixie State is now Utah Tech. Also, I went to SUU. It's the wildest mix of super mormon community but big queer population. Especially because it's huge for creative arts (Shakespeare festival is there)

27:14 I literally started my period right after I turned 11. Guess they should have let me freak out about it for a year before explaining why I was hurting and bleeding, yeah? Oh, and my best friend of the same age started like a month before me.

You guys are so delightful. Witty and smart, and so comfortable in front of the camera. Really enjoy your channel. 😊

My grandmother started her period at age 9. She thought she was dying.

What's horribly ironic is that the father of the Colorado shooter who said "we don't do gay, we're mormon" did porn ahaha

I'm so happy I joined your Patreon. You are both awesome and are truly a source of the light of knowledge in our community! I admire the way you both still check your own assumptions and continue to progress and seek understanding. Also, Fashion show fan vibes and slow blink in sync always 😊

The barriers of bad news as I look at the adorable bear wearing a bucket hat in the portrait behind them 😂 I love it.

okay before i start, impeccable vibes, you two are truly serving

I got my period at 11, my grandma got it at 9. My mother and aunt had been very open about their periods and how it was natural and a part of their life so I wasn't shocked in the slightest. I told them, put on a pad and went to a school function. I can only imagine how terrifying it would have been to start heavily bleeding at that age without having any idea what was going on.

suu is sort of a weird demographic because cedar city is super conservative but our student body has a ton of queer and liberal students. especially because we have the shakespeake theater festival haha

23:18 SUCH a good reference and an applicable one because that scene is literally a prime example of "creating a problem out of nothing in order to sell the solution" which is all mormonism is (the reference is to a musical called "the music man" in which a conartist convinces an entire town that the new pool hall is corrupting their kids and the only solution is to buy instruments and outfits from him and turn the town into a marching band. He knows nothing about instruments or how to play them and seduces the local piano teacher in order to keep his secret)

my neices friend (they both go to SUU) started that first petition actually! hes a really cool dude from what i hear.

Mr Nelson, champion of human rights and systemic change, went to kenya and said, “We preach tithing to the poor people of the world because the poor people of the world have had cycles of poverty, generation after generation. That same poverty continues from one generation to another, until people pay their tithing.”

There's actually a sane reason for the name for Dixie College, same with the nearby Dixie National Forest. Brigham Young sent people down there with the hopes of growing Cotton and Tobacco, just like the south. This failed, but the name "Utah's Dixie" for southwest Utah stuck.

Loving the implication at 19:23 that Paddington is, in fact, a threat and we should all be very afraid

Could jeffery r holland even pass a literature class at SUU? It remains to be seen

Byron Wiscombe served as second counselor in the bishopric in my ward (Ammon 17th Foothills ward). My dad took over as bishop after the bishopric was refreshed and had to deal with the shit show after the news about Wiscombe’s behavior broke. Saddest part is the victim was his daughter. The bishop allowed him to do worthiness interviews for her bc he was her dad, and that protected the secret of his evil behavior from leaking to others. The whole story shows how easy it is to hide in the shadows cast by the patriarchal church’s boy club - it’s set up to cast these shadows bc the most power-hungry egotistical white cis sexist racist men thrive in these areas. It started this way with Joseph’s 14yo wives and continues generationally to this day

And…. The BYU graduate and Mormon dentist murders /poisons the mother of his 6 children. Another crazy 😜 Mormon!!

That intro was everything. Will you please keep doing that?

I got my period when I was 10 It is most certainly not anything sexual or adult. Also we didn’t learn about it at school until the end of year six, nearly a year after I started. (But that was circa ‘09 so idk if things are different now)

Just want to leave a comment to clear something up. SUU was never Dixie State. SUU is in Cedar City which is a college town during the school year and the Shakespeare Festival in the summer. SUU is my alma mater and it flabbergasts me that they picked Holland to speak at graduation.

I lived in the Bible belt for 19 years, and, when the bathroom bills started getting pushed, I explained to tons of people how those laws actually endanger children. I am a cis woman, who has nothing but nephews, and I explained that bathroom bills would mean that when I am alone with my nephews, then I am required to send them to the men's rooms by themselves. I also explained that by sending them without proper adult supervision that puts them in danger, and that, if I am present, it greatly lowers the risk of children like them. People attempted to object, and claim that it's "different for children", and I clarified, "Not according to the laws that are being passed." I am not a man, and they are not female. They claim to protect children, while endangering children, even if they are not the ones who are the danger. Also, the fact that adults think that children are so aware of sex, inuendo, and subtlety is laughable. i watched Ace Ventura: Pet Detective when it came out on VHS, in June of 1994. I was 5 years old then. I had no idea that there was sexual humor in the movie. Also, my parents honestly answered my questions about sex and where babies came from, when i was a child. When I re-watched the movie when I was older (in my teens), I was shocked at all the sexual humor, because it completely went over my head, as a child. My father even said, "Well, why did you think that it was so funny?" I said, "Because Jim Carrey made silly faces, and behaved obnoxiously." I was five, and I missed the point entirely. I turned out fine, and so will your children. Also, to prove that i wasn't lied to about anything, growing up, the first time that I witnessed my mother dealing with menstruation, i was about three. It was scary looking, because I was in the bathroom with her, and saw her bleeding. I asked if she was okay, and she explained that this is something that women deal with when they reach a certain age. I was able to accept that at about age three. When I got older, she explained things more to me, and provided me with the American Girl Body Book (around age 8 or 9), and I fully understood it before they went over puberty in public school (grade 5, when I was 10, in a conservative part of the Bible belt). This is biology, not sex. Oh, and my father mentions that his younger sister got her period early (at age 8), in the '50s, when they attended Catholic school, and he often says that it's a good thing that my grandfather was home, because if he had been alone with her, he would have thought that she was dying. Information doesn't hurt anyone. Oh, and I was a bit of a daddy's girl (who probably has autism), and I felt zero discomfort talking to my father about pads, tampons, underwire, etc (God, bless him). In fact, I tease him now, that I developed late, and no boys were interested in me, but i have four unplanned nephews who arrived, while never having so much as a pregnancy scare, myself, and I joke that he should have been more worried about my brothers, than with me. I took care of myself. i have zero desire to be a mother. Finally, I was raised Christian. Granted, Episcopalian, and we are the Christians that other Christians (i.e. evangelicals) claim, are, "not Christian". It's cool, they aren't responsible for where, when, why, how, etc. I end up.. All are worthy of God (the universe, or whatever you prefer) end up. Love is love, and the details don't matter.

As to the Ghost Writer Nelson - am I the only who noticed years ago the bust of the Ghost Writer in the Disney Haunted Mansion Library is the spitting image of Nelson? You guys got it so right. What a “Spooky Mormon Hell Dream”

The editing for this one is on point

In the 58 years of my existence this general conference is the ONLY one I’ve ever looked forward to. I’m curious about how the SEC thing will be addressed. I look forward to MORE LIES!!!

Being ‘woke’ means waking up to systems of power that have operated for centuries, and trying to fix it, realizing you can’t fix it and tearing it down in solidarity with your community. (Also the term came from the Black community.)

🥰🥰😂👏👏👏💃🏾 Y’all are the best. Greetings from Northern Ireland

Tanner's Holland impression has me on the floor hahaha

Oh and the vibes are outstanding. 😁

Okay I hope the vibe reveal becomes a regular thing, because that was the best.

I believe it was Mark Twain who said if the phrase “and it came to pass” was omitted from the Book of Mormon, it would have been a pamphlet, rather than a “book” lol

When I was in 5th grade (10 years old), in NJ in the 1950’s there was a class for girls and we learned about menstruation. It can begin between the ages of 8 and 17!

15:05 you can't jumpscare me with the church organ like that lol

Trying to get Russell m Nelson a peace award is one of the most ridiculous things the church has ever done 🤦🏻‍♀🤦🏻‍♀🤦🏻‍♀

You really did it! Thank you guys to much!

Mark Twain also famously hated Jane Austen

23:18 Unexpected but welcome, spontaneous MUSIC MAN reference.

Outstanding news-channel episode, Samantha and Tanner, from start to finish. Loved it :)!

Ashamed of my school. Would love to hear your thoughts on his speech.

I was still working on leaving the church when the peace prize thing happened. And my institute teacher had us all read the article and report on what we learned. I was sitting there as a gay member of the church enjoying my “equal rights”. I was so fucking pissed

Always a good day when I get to listen to you guys!

Loved this. Love you guys. Am I writing this just because I've been enthralled by the slow blinking? Perhaps. Happy to be an underling nonetheless.

Great episode! When it comes to the hypocrisy of Nielsen's Peace Prize, the awful tweets of the church journalist, or Holland and his musket, I don't know who wins!!?? Thanks for bringing this news, it's due diligence.

Conservatives must have watched a different version of Carrie than me if they think hiding menstruation talk from young girls is a good idea.

Lmaooo it makes me so, SO queerly overjoyed to know that I, a trans non binary guy named Holland, have sullied Jeffrey Holland’s name in this way. While I didn’t choose my name because of him (duh), it makes me absolutely overjoyed to know that we trans fuckers have even defiled his NAMEEEEE

loved the vibe reveal at the beginning

""Woke" is a term that originated from African American Vernacular English (AAVE) and refers to being socially and politically aware, particularly regarding issues related to social justice, inequality, and discrimination. In this context, someone who is "woke" is perceived as being awake to and actively engaged in understanding and advocating for various forms of social and political change, especially those related to race, gender, sexuality, and other marginalized or underrepresented groups. However, the term has evolved over time and is sometimes used in a more critical or sarcastic manner to describe individuals who are perceived as overly self-righteous or performative in their displays of social awareness, without necessarily taking meaningful action to address the issues they claim to be concerned about. It's important to note that the interpretation and usage of the term can vary widely, and it has been the subject of ongoing discussions and debates about its appropriateness and implications." -chatgbt

Nailed the vibe reveal, love it!

I really connected with the slow blinks and u guys shutting up for a hot sec. But the rest was great too.

A wise person can change their mind.... A fool never does

They definitely chose Holland to speak partly because he’s a local big person, my family is from there and my grandma dated him once when they were in college 🥲🥲🥲

I'd be interested to see what you have to say about the church abroad! I've seen a lot of stuff recently about African converts

I too drove an Altima! Imagine I said that sitting straight upright with my right arm to the square and index finger pointing up.

We're all a little insane because our society is, agreed.

You guys are so open and accepting! 😂

What is so taboo about menstruation? Fr. I talk about it in front of men without even flinching, and the men I'm around are educated about it and know it's a reality for half the population. So? I wish I knew about it when I was young so I didn't hate my body when I went through puberty.

To the water point, I'm aware this is a month old but look into water use with fracking. It can never be considered clean again once used in that way. It is a significant useage in the west but so are golf courses.

I just wrote a paper on issues of a patriarchal capitalistic system especially when it is supported and implemented with religion.

Making period talk illegal?! I recall the vicar who founded the Samaritans did so in part because he attended the funeral of a 13 year old girl who killed herself since she got her period and had no idea what it was.

QUEEN & KING OF THE MILLENNIAL EXMORMONS 👑🙏🏼

LMAO, awarding the guy for "weeding out racism" in the Mormon church has the same energy as that time people fell over themselves singing Pope Francis' praises for not outright saying gay people should be put to death. Y'all need higher standards.

i stg all of these people saying “trans people are coming for your children” all have skeletons in their closet. like matt walsh with that creepy video where he defends actual child groomers and says “consent increasingly means nothing because we’ve expanded it so much”

Don't even have to watch this video, the intro by itself was enough for a like!

Dixie was named Dixie because the early pioneers were sent to St George to grow cotton. The name was changed to Utah Tech University. SUU use to be called SUSC- Southern Utah State College. Holland is born and raised from St George and that is one of the reason SUU chose him. He is considered a local boy. Also, SUU is 70% LDS and they are appealing to that group. MSP had an excellent live podcast on it yesterday. One on the panel gave suggestions of 100 LDS women who could be the speaker.

Reading that Mark Twain quote about the book of mormon and oh dear so true! I was a mormon and never liked the book and they never use the bible. Im reading now the bible and wow amazing, love it

Opening with big vibes. 10/10

Chloroform in print.

I think a few things can be true at the same time. I don't like banning most people from speaking at college campuses. At the same time, I 100% support students expressing their free thought and Free Speech in signing petitions to have their voices be heard. We all know it would never happen, though it would be excellent for BYU to have a Trans person speak. Of course, BYU would block most any person from the lgbtq+ world. These old relics and dinosaurs of the past are fast becoming extinct, and they don't know what to do about it about it. Their old rusty antique "muskets" don't stand a chance.

The enlightened silence 💀

You two are too good.

I want proof of the 10 bucks exchange when bet resolves :)

Tanner!!!! Loved your music man reference! I'd love yo hear you sing that whole song!

Hey Sam, do you think the drag queen propaganda could take a foothold in the UK given the tradition of Christmas panto there? I am genuinely baffled as to how we got here.

You should find out who exactly made the decision to invite Holland and put him or them on blast.

I saw on Facebook the news of the new President or some such of BYU? I was very disturbed by the comments about how much people were hoping he would get rid of all the "wokeness" on campus. Openly showing how much they hate the LGBTQ+ community.

I knew you were models.

premium quality brains, premium quality outfits

The period thing reminds me of the movie Carrie... How sadistic would you have to be to do that to your child?

34 minutes. The Church owns the waters. Isn't that why missionaries are prohibited from water?

the Mendel lady infamously wrote an op-ed in 2017 saying how we NEED to befriend Neo Nazis. her current opinions are no surprise

I disagree with you tanner. The animals do have the ability to conceptualize, we just don’t have the ability to fully understand them😉

Sam your sweater is everything

y’all should give away a trip with Tanner. 🍄💕

Watched until I felt very threatened by Paddington