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Me too! The good thing about the Le Mans 24 hour race is you can get very drunk, wake up with a hangover and still have a couple of hours of racing left to watch!

Me too...

I envy you guys!!!... I was born in 88’

@@christian_urocar Sports car racing is looking good again i think,.Hyper cars could be the new Group C,..!

*Nobody will stop you from doing it yourself ;)*

"We" don't need to pay for more streaming services.

@@Christof_Classen I mean... nobody except the literal tangled web of license holders/brands/motor sports associations and their armies of lawyers that will each either charge you a fortune for the rights, or sue the pants off you if you dont pay. Sure nobody's stopping you

@@PeterKKraus Absolute Truth!

If you are going to follow through with that plan you'll have to make it free and with no ads.

As a NASCAR fan we will gladly accept you within the community, You'd fit right in !!

*laughs in porsche 962*

me too....is it just me, or were these more exciting times? well the Mulsanne straight was still without shitcanes! sorry Chicanes....

I was there in 88...drove my Porsche 944 there...but happy Jag won!

The Peugeot wm P88 did..I believe it was the fastest car there it was measured by speed radars doing 252mph on the straight

Every time I go out for a jog.

It was the easiest way to do graphics back in the day!

Rip 🙏

Buy British!!

not even close

Didn’t finish.

They didn’t really start , they were only there to get 400 down Mulsanne

Alistair J M Clark I think they actually tried to qualify for Le Mans though since they failed, they didn’t come

@@alistairjmclark9866 PRV>m119

Henk Gaas Don't forget that Jan Lammers drove 13 ( or 14 ) hours of the 24 and did the start and finish. In the U. K. Lammers was honored as a "Honorary Member of the British Racing Drivers Club". At that time there were only a few foreigners that were honoured this way like Juan Manuel Fangio and Enzo Ferrari.

@@henkm4862 I know Henk.

Was stuck in 4 gear

Hans Stuck in the works porsche in the 30 minute rain was 12 seconds faster than any other car on the field with regular tires

Moi aussi formidable!!

Merci pour la meilleure course du monde!

True (sort of). Its a Chinese restaurant and its approx the middle of the Mulsanne straight. There are no windows overlooking the road unfortunately, so you don`t get to see the race, but you are only a few yards from the track so you definitely (and deafeningly) hear them! I`ve been to Le Mans 9 times from 2006 and looking forward to a few more visits now we can expect true competitive racing again with the Hypercar formula

Yes, they had to run a lot of boost on the Porsche engines to make them competitive, especially later in the development life, which means you have to run quite a lot of fuel into the engine or you seriously run the risk of melting piston crowns as a lean mixture burns much hotter. It's less of an issue now, but you can still get big issues if you get a fuel pressure issue with modern turbo engines. The naturally aspirated Jaguar V12, although a big lump of an engine, could be run pretty lean without issues which was a big advantage from it being derived from a well-proven road engine where, in general, you tend to have to build them tougher and a bit heavier than might be desirable in a pure race engine...

I'm sure that's why the Jag V12 had only two valves per cylinder. It would have been a lower-revving engine with more low-end grunt than a four-valve alternative, and therefore more fuel-efficient. Generally, lower RPM means less fuel consumption even at wider throttle openings. Also, the 2-valve engine was simpler mechanically, and less top-heavy (fewer cams and other valvetrain components in the heads) for a lower CG. At 7 liters it was a big engine, but equally large Ford two-valve V8s beat the smaller, higher-revving Ferraris in the late sixties, so it was a proven formula. As gosportjamie pointed out, turbos had to run a richer fuel mixture to be reliable, so this was a compound advantage for Jaguar.

I think you’ll find that’s a bit of a myth. Jaguar said they were right at the limit of the development of the V12, which is why they replaced it with the Jaguar-Rover turbo V6 in the next major revision. Porsche still had plenty left in the turbo flat-6, which had pretty much dominated Group C from its inception right up to the end of 1987 and was still winning races in 1989. How much different could it be between a turbo V6 and a turbo flat-6?

@@thethirdman225 There actually is a lot of difference between a V6 and a flat 6 in terms of torque and power production. I don't think Jaguar were at the limit of what was technically possible with the V12, but to take that engine further would have cost a lot of money that was probably better spent on another engine being as finances were tight and the V12 was getting towards the end of its' evolution. The V12 did continue to be a successful race engine in the Lister GT cars for some time...

I remember over the weekend the talk was about the fact that the Porsche was faster with the turbo, but couldn’t run that level of boost for the whole race due to the fuel economy. The Jaguar was faster when the Porsche ran less boost to save fuel. It was a fantastic race and atmosphere with half of Coventry in the stands cheering the Jags on. The Porsche team came to Jaguar hospitality at the end to congratulate us. One or their mechanics gave me his cap. Unforgettable experience.

The team did know, that's the reason Walkinshaw had them form up at the end, it was so the other cars could push it from behind if required.

I suppose it is the french’s idea of a four wheel drive vehicle - which could have been problematic from a marketing perspective. Regardless, it was a very different era with regards to safety processes (I’m always nervous seeing something like this since the Bianci incident)

What is a Lemans?

What changed at Indianapolis (I guess you mean the corner at LM)?

@@armorgeddon I mean the indy 500 oval circuit they narrow the corners but still the cars managed on the straight the speeds of over 230 miles per hour. Without the straight they killed LEMANS. Now you can see that even now with rain they stop the race. I guess they could had left only the GT CARS with speeds of over 200 miles per hour without the prototypes

That's the whole point of endurance racing!

Yes ..but his car broke down in the 3rd or 4th hour of the race after he reached 252mph on the straight..

Not sure which le mans he was in but the Porsche factory team fielded 4 cars and the great Larry Perkins was indeed in that 4th car. Your ears do not deceive you.

My mistake, it was Jaguar who ran a 4th car with Larry Perkins, not Porsche.

No GT category back then, they didn't need to bolster the entry list as they had 40 odd entries in the top C1 category and another 10 or so C2 prototypes for smaller manufacturers and lower budget teams.

@@marks7197 oh ok ..cause you always see GT cars in lemans 24 hrs.. there are more GT cars than prototypes

@@dennismichealsm3786 That's true currently but back in the Group C era there was no need to include slow cars. The amount of factory entrants in the 80's was unlike the current situation and customer Porsche 956/962's meant a field of a couple of dozen outright race winners.

@@marks7197 thanks for the info..any endurance race without the GT class feels weird but I also understand and respect the fact that the group C cars were fast ..some were even faster than F1 cars at that time.. crazy

@@dennismichealsm3786 I was lucky enough to watch the group c era first hand at Brands Hatch, Silverstone and Donington, nobody missed GT cars at the time. The FIA/ACO wanting the GT1 category to be competitive for overall victory started that situation.

Mainly because they were uncompetitive. Even as a Jaguar fan, I think it was a shame the Saubers pulled out of the race, would have been interesting.

So sad

No. 1989 was.

The marshalls tradition of waving their flags on the final lap would mean no overtaking, so Porsche would not have won if what you suggested were true.